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  • @ Jossie (#810)

    DANKE, Jossie!!!!!

    Da kannze ma seen, watt wir für Dösköpp sind: seitenlang überlgen, aber nicht kucken....

    Jetzt ist ja das Zeitdifferenz-Problem geklärt, denn es waren ja 60 Minuten, die wir "hier" zu früh von dem Unglück gehört hatten, weil wir ja fälschlicherweise von 10 und nicht von 9 Stunden ausgegangen sind.-

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    • kann twitter nicht helfen? oder vielleicht dieses hier:
      Text ? Uhrzeiten angegeben:

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      • Zitat von remember Beitrag anzeigen
        Wird die Zeit ( - 9 Std.) zurückgerechnet? -

        Wenn hier der 26.06. anfängt, ist drüben noch lange der 25.06.?

        Kann hier jmd sagen, wann (das Datum) die erste Meldung mit dem Krankenwagen im TV erschien? War das nicht erst Freitag bzw. sogar Samstag, der 27. 06.? -
        9 Stunden liegen wir in der Zeit vor L.A.

        Den Krankenwagen haben wir bereits am Donnerstag gegen 23:50 Uhr, also am 25. Juni selbst, gesehen. Es mag sein, dass er sogar schon vorher zu sehen gewesen war. Es lagen ja rund 2 Stunden zwischen Notruf und Todeszeitpunkt. (Es macht keinen Spaß, das zu schreiben ...)

        CTE
        Zuletzt geändert von CTE; 24.11.2009, 18:05.

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        • @remeber (#813)

          ist zwar nicht voll eine Antwort auf #813 ----aber 1/2:

          Weil: die Sinne geht im Osten auf, deshalb geht sie in europa auch früher weg, nämlich, weil sie danach nach Amerika geht.
          Also sind die -wenigstens mal bei der Uhrzeit u. der Zeit im Allgemeinen- gegenüber Europa ein bischen zurück....

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          • Boah, ich hab alles nachgelesen, was ich seit meinem letzten Post verpasst habe und mir raucht der Kopf.

            @Charlie
            Na siehste Klappt doch mit dem Ausdrücken Mein ich wirklich ernst.

            Also erstmal zur Uhrzeit:
            Ich weiß noch genau, dass eine Freundin von mir noch vor Mitternacht (also noch am 25. Juni bei uns) im Chat geschrieben hat, Michael Jackson sei gestorben. Die offizielle Bestätigung kam erst einige Minuten später, das weiß ich noch. Es war auch nicht sonderlich lange vor Mitternacht. 10-15 Minuten vorher vielleicht. Da war Michael aber offiziell schon tot. Rechnet man von 23.50 nämlich - 9 Stunden, kommt man auf 14.50 amerikanischer Zeit. Um 14.26 Uhr wurde Michael in LA offiziell für Tod erklärt. Dass es da ein Problem mit der Zeitumstellung gab, bezweifle ich schwer. Die Zeit passt also. Zumindest die des offiziellen Statements und die bei uns.

            Eine Frage die sich mir immerwieder stellt ist, warum Michael sterben musste. Hat das angebliche Gespräch mit einem Follower was damit zu tun, bei dem Michael sagte, irgendwas Komisches ginge im Haus vor? Ist Michael da irgendwas auf die Spur gekommen, dem er nicht hätte auf die Spur kommen dürfen? Aber was könnte er da auf die Spur gekommen sein? Was für ein dunkles Geheimnis könnte dahinter stehen, dass Michael Jackson dafür sterben musste? War sein Tod von Anfang an geplant, oder musste dieser dann urplötzlich über die Bühne gehen, eben weil er etwas rausgefunden hatte?

            Hat doch jemand von der Familie etwas mit Michaels Tod zu tun? Aber wenn ja, wer? Und warum? Weiß Carr da etwas und steht deswegen zwischen den Stühlen? Das könnte ja auch bedeuten, dass ein Familienmitglied was damit zu tun hat und er das dem Rest der Familie nicht sagen möchte. Ich kann mir nicht vorstellen, dass die komplette Familie da mit drin hängt. Das wäre tatsächlich Wahnsinn. Aber schon alleine Janet hätte im Leben nicht ihren geliebten Bruder umgebracht.

            Oder war es jemand aus dem Umfeld der Familie? Jemand, der der Familie nah steht und Carr möchte deswegen Rücksicht nehmen? Ich meine, man müsste ja davon ausgehen, dass möglicherweise auch Michaels Kinder in Gefahr wären, wenn jemand der Mörder war, der jetzt mit ihnen Kontakt hat. Würde Carr dann den Mund halten? Würde man die Kinder in der Gefahrenzone lassen? Glaube ich nicht.

            Wer hat die Macht, die Medien absolut zu kontrollieren? Wer hat die Macht, alles so zu kontrollieren, dass ein Mord zur größten Vertuschungsaktion der Weltgeschichte wird? Im Aufsehen (und da erkenne ich den Zusammenhang), steht dieser Fall dem von Kennedy in nichts nach. Und noch eine weitere Gemeinsamkeit ist da. Man versucht krampfhaft einem einzelnen Mann (nämlich Murray) alles in die Schuhe zu schieben. Genau so war es damals auch beim Mord an Kennedy und da weiß man bis heute nicht, ob der Mann, den man als Schuldigen verhaftet hat, auch wirklich der Schuldige gewesen ist.

            Wollte vielleicht jemand verhindern, dass Michael diese 50 Konzerte macht? Wollte jemand verhindern, dass Michael sich finanziell erholt? Wäre ja Unsinn, denn durch seinen Tod wächst sein Vermögen ja wieder. Gut, das nützt ihm nichts mehr. Aber seinen Kindern. Wusste jemand, dass Michael Tod wesentlich mehr wert ist, als lebend? Sicher, das wussten Einige. LaToya und Joe haben es nach Michaels Tod ja auch direkt zum Ausdruck gebracht. Auch LaToya sagte, wie Carr, man würde staunen, wenn man die Wahrheit erfahren würde (und ich denke, das hätte sie nicht gesagt, würde es jemanden aus der eigenen Familie betreffen).

            @remember
            Wenn bei uns 9.00 Uhr morgens ist, dann ist bei denen in LA erstmal Mitternacht. Das heißt, dass bei uns immer schon neun Stunden vorher der neue Tag beginnt.

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            • Ich denke, dass (leider) nur in die Richtung Medikamentenabhängigkeit (MJ der Junkie *Ironie*) und Überdosis (Murray, Bauernopfer) ermittelt wird. Und dass MJ an einer Überdosis "Irgendwas" gestorben ist, wissen wir. Dass Murray ihm etwas gespritzt hat, wissen wir auch. Was für mich allerdings unbegreiflich bzw. unglaubwürdig ist und irgendwie nicht zusammen passt, ist:

              1. Dieser Tagesablaufplan, der mal irgenwo rumkursierte, was Murray MJ wann gespritzt haben soll.
              2. Dass Murray wirklich so dämlich sein soll, und nicht weiß, dass sich Propofol mit den anderen Medis nicht verträgt.
              3. Die unterschiedlichen Mengenangaben, Murray sagte 25 mg, lt. Gerichtsmedizin war es aber mehr. Murray muss doch wissen, dass die Menge bei einer Obduktion raus kommt.
              4. Murray spritzt seinem Patienten angeblich 25 mg Propofol, kennt als Arzt mit Sicherheit dessen Wirkung und verschwindet dann mal eben für ne Stunde.
              Ich weiß nicht, inwiefern es in Ami-Land erlaubt ist, überhaupt Propofol zu Hause zu verabreichen. Ich nehme mal an, es ist verboten, dann würde doch jemand, der seinem Patienten so etwas spritzt, dafür sorgen, dass sein verbotener Mist, den er da verzapft hat, nicht auffliegt und die notwendigen Sicherheitsvorkehrungen treffen, damit auch ja nichts passiert oder dass es nicht auffliegt, was er da gemacht hat.
              5. Murray ruft den Notruf erst 2 Stunden nach Feststellen des Todes.
              6. Murray kennt die Adresse nicht.
              7. Murray sagt nicht, dass es sich um MJ handelt.
              8. Die Köchin sagte, sie habe MJ u. Murray am Morgen nicht gesehen und Murray rief nach Prince.
              9. Murray ist bei AEG unter Vertrag und nicht bei MJ, um dessen Wohl er sich eigentlich sorgen sollte.

              und...und...und

              Also entweder ist Murray gar kein Arzt oder er weiß gar nicht, was er da angeblich gemacht haben soll.

              EDIT:
              Wo sind die Videobänder? Wer hat sie verschwinden lassen?
              War Murray am Todestag überhaupt in MJ's Haus? War er überhaupt schon mal dort oder warum vergisst man eine Adresse?
              (Mir geht es nur so, dass ich nicht weiß, wo ich bin, wenn ich bei jemanden mitgefahren bin, aber nicht, wenn ich selbst dorthin gefahren bin. Und wenn ich schon "öfters" dort war, dann weiß ich auch die Adresse oder zumindest die Straße und wenn ich das trotzdem nicht weiß und von dort einen Notarzt rufen muss und bei einer sehr bekannten Person bin, dann sag ich den Namen dieser Person, denn die meisten Leute werden wissen, wo dieser Mensch wohnt.)
              Zuletzt geändert von stezi; 24.11.2009, 19:11.

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              • Zitat von Briánna Beitrag anzeigen
                ich gehe es mal anders an: um ca. 12:30 ortszeit geht der notruf ein, der todeszeitpunkt wird mit 14:26 angegeben. der krankenwagen soll damals rekordzeitverdächtig fix da gewesen sein - ich habe was mit 7 minuten im hinterkopf.
                dann haben sie ihn transportstabil gemacht, nach einschätzung der lage und 1.hilfe-maßnahmen. ich gehe mal grob von 15 min aus. fahrt zum krankenhaus: wieder 10 min? wir sind bei etwas über 30 min. im krankenhaus wurde eine stunde versucht, ihn zu retten. so oder so - da fehlt zeit, oder? in diesem fall was um die 20 - 25 min.

                achja: das mit dem esotherikforum war ich nicht
                Vielleicht hilft ja folgende weiter?

                Wenn denn das alles stimmt, was hier gebracht wird:



                Kam Murray um 12.05 Urt die Treppe runter und hat nach Prince gerufen.
                Um 12.21 Uhr ging der Notruf raus und 3.17 min danach um 12.24 Uhr war der Krankenwagen vor Ort. Um 13.06 Uhr ist der Krankenwagen aus dem Grundstück ins Krankenhaus gefahren.

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                • Ich verfolge Eure Diskussion, obwohl ich manchmal nicht weiß, ob ich wirklich denke...
                  Es gibt ja nun einen "Augenzeugenbericht" von einem Follower (nicht drauf hauen!). Es soll nur ein Denkanstoß für Euch sein:

                  In den letzten Tagen von Michael’s Leben fiel mir auch auf, dass sein Bodyguard Alberto Alvarez oft sehr verstört aussah und wie ihm vor Nervosität der Schweiß ausbrach. Wenn wir ihn danach fragten, ob Michael o.k. wäre oder nicht, ging er nicht wirklich auf die Frage ein, sondern entgegnete, dass Michael „fokussiert“ und im „Tour-Modus“ sei. Wir konnten jedoch sehen, dass mehr dahinter steckte. Michael war zunehmend verändert, benommen und ausgezehrt und seine Sicherheitsleute waren aus irgendeinem Grund nervös. So stieg die Anzahl der Sicherheitsleute hinter dem Eingangstor zu seinem Haus von 2-3 auf das Doppelte und Dreifache an, und in der Nacht, als er starb, zählte ich sogar 12 Bodyguards.

                  Quelle: Augenzeugenbericht Samantha

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                  • jossie
                    das hatte ich doch gerade hier eingestellt.
                    aber mein englisch-------

                    ich wünsche jedem, der mal einen krankenwagen braucht, das dieser auch
                    in 3 minuten da ist.
                    Zuletzt geändert von Brigitte 58; 24.11.2009, 19:28.

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                    • Und noch etwas komisches an der Sache:

                      Murray war nach MJ's Tod zwei Tage verschwunden. Weiß nicht mehr genau, wo er war. Kann mir jemand helfen? Gab es dazu Aussagen seitens Murray oder von seinem Anwalt? Warum, weshalb er weg war?

                      Frei nach dem Motto: So, jetzt hab ich dem zu viel gespritzt, der ist daran gestorben und nu mach ich mich mal vom Acker.
                      Wie Vogel Strauß: Kopf in Sand und keiner merkt was.
                      Nee sorry, da stimmt was nicht. Wer haut denn ab, wenn er weiß, dass er den bekanntesten Menschen der Welt auf dem Gewissen hat und was sollte das für einen Sinn machen? Das lenkt doch gerade den Verdacht auf ihn.

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                      • Sorry für meine zig Fragen. Aber je mehr ich über alles nachdenke, umso mehr Widersprüche fallen mir auf und noch mehr Fragen stellen sich mir.

                        War Murray überhaupt vor Ort, als die Sanis eintrafen?

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                        • Wer kann mir bitte den folgenden Satz korrekt übersetzen?

                          To put this entire matter in perspective, the spine tingling intrigue surrounding the death investigation of the Gloved One rivals the bold brazen assassination of President John F. Kennedy 46 years ago.

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                          • Explore Ed Chernoff's statements about Dr. Conrad Murray and the circumstances surrounding Michael Jackson's death.


                            allerhand statements

                            November 22, 2009
                            November 22nd, 2009

                            New Statement by Ed Chernoff about Dr. Conrad Murray returning to work:

                            “Because of a deteriorating financial condition and prompting by many of his beloved patients, on November 20th, 2009 Dr. Conrad Murray resumed his cardiology practice in Houston Texas. Doctor Murray plans to attend to patients in both Las Vegas and Houston. His decision to first return to practice in Houston was made because of the greater need these low-income patients have for his services and the prohibitive cost of reopening his clinic in Las Vegas.”

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                            October 8, 2009
                            October 8th, 2009

                            Statement regarding hearing:

                            Dr. Murray has continuous legal representation on the matter in Las Vegas. Ed Chernoff does not represent Dr. Murray in Las Vegas Family Court.

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                            August 28, 2009: Ed Chernoff Response to Coroner’s Release
                            August 28th, 2009

                            This press release contains nothing new. For two months we have been hearing the same information, usually from leaks out of the coroner’s office. One has to wonder why the coroner felt compelled to release anything at all if the police investigation is not yet complete.

                            In any case, this has all the earmarks of police gamesmanship, and we will not be responding until we get a full autopsy report, including the entire list of drugs found in Mr. Jackson, their quantities, and all other data that would allow independent medical experts to analyze and interpret.

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                            Affidavit Statement
                            August 24th, 2009

                            August 24, 2009

                            With regard the affidavit released today in Houston Texas, Mr. Chernoff responds:

                            “Much of what was in the search warrant affidavit is factual. However, unfortunately, much is police theory. Most egregiously, the timeline reported by law enforcement was not obtained through interviews with Dr. Murray, as was implied by the affidavit. Dr. Murray simply never told investigators that he found Michael Jackson at 11:00 am not breathing. He also never said that he waited a mere ten minutes before leaving to make several phone calls. In fact, Dr. Murray never said that he left Michael Jackson’s room to make phone calls at all.

                            We will not comment on the “anonymous” law enforcement source that claims that Michael Jackson’s death will be ruled a homicide. Most of the reports by “anonymous” sources have been proven wrong. We will be happy to address the Coroner’s report when it is officially released.”

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                            August 15, 2009
                            August 15th, 2009

                            With regard to the repeated questions surrounding Mark Geragos’ interview with E!, Mr. Chernoff has the following response: “Although Mr. Geragos would make a fine addition to any legal team, neither Dr. Murray nor anyone associated with him has approached Mr. Geragos for any reason, legal or otherwise. He no doubt meant that as a hypothetical, and was unfortunately misquoted.”

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                            August 13, 2009
                            August 13th, 2009

                            We have received a number of calls asking for verification of Ed Chernoff’s interview in the Los Angeles Times today. Please quote the Los Angeles Times article, Ed Chernoff verifies his statements made in that article, but will not be issuing any statements independent of that.

                            The story can be found here:



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                            Statement on Today’s Search Warrants in Las Vegas
                            July 28th, 2009

                            July 28, 2009

                            We can verify that at approximately 8am, Officers from DEA, LAPD and various local agencies began executing a search warrant at Dr. Conrad Murray’s Las Vegas home and office. The search warrant authorized investigators to look for medical records relating to Michael Jackson and all of his reported aliases. Dr Murray was present during the search of his home and assisted the officers. Investigators left Dr. Murray’s home around 12 noon, seizing cell phones and a computer hard drive. As of 2pm, the search at Dr. Murray’s office continues.

                            Neither Ed Chernoff nor Dr. Conrad Murray will be available for interviews at this time.

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                            Statement on AP story
                            July 27th, 2009

                            July 27, 2009

                            “It’s a waste of time responding to all these timed ‘leaks’ from ‘anonymous’ sources. I feel like a horse swatting flies. Everyone needs to take a breath and wait for these long delayed toxicology results. I have no doubt they want to make a case – for goodness sakes, its Michael Jackson! But things tend to shake out when all the facts are made known, and I’m sure that will happen here as well.”

                            -Ed Chernoff

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                            Statement by Ed Chernoff
                            July 22nd, 2009

                            July 22, 2009

                            “We can confirm that a search warrant was executed today on Dr. Murray’s offices in Houston Texas. We reviewed the warrant and remained on the premises while the search was being executed. The search was conducted by members of the DEA, two Robbery – Homicide detectives from the Los Angeles Police Department and Houston Police officers. The search warrant authorized law enforcement to search for and seize items, including documents, they believed constituted evidence of the offense of manslaughter. Law enforcement concluded their search around 12:30pm, and left with a forensic image of a business computer hard drive and 21 documents. None of the documents taken had previously been requested by law enforcement or the L.A. Coroner’s office. “

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                            Investigators Request Third Interview With Dr. Conrad Murray
                            July 21st, 2009

                            July 21, 2009

                            Investigators working to determine Michael Jackson’s cause of death are seeking more information from Dr. Conrad Murray. Investigators have also asked for medical records in addition to those Dr. Murray has already provided.

                            “The coroner wants to clear up the cause of death, we share that goal,” says Ed Chernoff, attorney for Dr. Murray. “”We don’t have access to the most important information in this case… the toxicology report. We’re still in the dark like everybody else. Based on Dr. Murray’s minute-by-minute and item-by-item description of Michael Jackson’s last days, he should not be a target of criminal charges. Dr. Murray was the last doctor standing when Michael Jackson died and it seems all the fury is directed toward him. Dr. Murray is frustrated by negative and often erroneous media reports, he has to walk around 24-7 with a bodyguard. He can’t operate his practice. He can’t go to work because he is harassed no matter where he goes.”

                            Ed Chernoff and Dr. Murray continue to cooperate with investigators. The third interview is not yet scheduled.
                            Zuletzt geändert von Brigitte 58; 24.11.2009, 19:57.

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                            • ...Murray war erstmal verschwunden

                              So, nun lehne ich mich mal gaaaaanz weit aus dem Fenster und stelle folgende Theorie auf:

                              Theorie:
                              Es existiert kein Arzt Dr. Conrad Murray
                              Er ist ein Schauspieler
                              Er wurde eingesetzt um vor irgendwas, irgendwen abzulenken evtl. besser ermitteln zu können ?

                              Fakt:
                              Über google finde ich praktisch keine Vergangenheit von einem Dr Conrad Murray, der angeblich ein bekannter Kardiologe ist. Es gibt ca. 3-4 Statements von angebl. ehemaligen Patienten im Internet mehr nicht.
                              Kein ehemaliger Schulfreund, kein ehemaliger Nachbar, kein ehemaliger wasweissich....
                              Ehrlich, wenn ICH die Person Conrad Murray wäre, oh Mann, wenn ich mir so überlege wer da alles was zu erzählen hätte, das www. wäre voll von Bildern von mir und ich bin nur eine "Otto-Normalo"

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                              • stezi
                                hier eine version, wo murray vielleicht war
                                What does a criminal-defense lawyer do when the whole world points a finger at his client? If you're Houston lawyer Ed Chernoff and your client was the King of Pop's personal physician, you enlist the help of your partners in an effort to redirect the 24/7 news cycle and show how your client cooperated with police — then you hope for the best and prepare for the worst.

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                                Best Course of Treatment: Representing Michael Jackson's Personal M.D.

                                By Miriam Rozen

                                Texas Lawyer

                                July 20, 2009

                                What does a criminal-defense lawyer do when the whole world points a finger at his client?

                                If you're Houston lawyer Ed Chernoff and your client was the King of Pop's personal physician, you enlist the help of your partners in an effort to redirect the 24/7 news cycle and show how your client cooperated with police — then you hope for the best and prepare for the worst.

                                Chernoff, a partner in Houston's Stradley, Chernoff & Alford, represents Dr. Conrad Murray, who on June 25 found Michael Jackson in bed not breathing but with a pulse. Murray tried to resuscitate Jackson, 50, and then rode with him in the ambulance to the Ronald Reagan UCLA Medical Center where the singer died that day.

                                With Jackson's death came nearly instantaneous reports in the media that the megastar may have been abusing prescription medications. And with that news, Murray was thrust into the spotlight.

                                "Every decision we have made we have had in mind that [Los Angeles prosecutors] could charge Dr. Murray, irrespective of his guilt," Chernoff says, adding that his client did nothing wrong.

                                At the hospital on June 25, shortly after Jackson died, Los Angeles Police Department officials questioned Murray — who is licensed to practice medicine in Texas, Nevada and California. That same day, the LAPD impounded Murray's car so authorities could search for evidence. The doctor was not represented by a lawyer at the time, Chernoff says.

                                But by the mid-afternoon on June 26, Murray, who has offices in Houston and Las Vegas, had called Chernoff. Another Houston lawyer, who Chernoff declines to identify, recommended his firm to Murray. When Murray called, Chernoff says he was 50 percent sure it was a hoax so he insisted Murray wire money for at least a portion of his $1,200 last-minute plane ticket to California before he agreed to fly out there.

                                Chernoff says Murray recognized he needed a lawyer because "all hell broke" after Jackson's death. Murray hired "legal counsel to help guide him through the police investigation process" and "to make sure the police investigation is conducted properly," Chernoff says.

                                The evening of June 26, Chernoff says he flew from Houston to California to meet with Murray at the Ritz-Carlton in Marina del Rey, a location the two men picked to avoid the paparazzi. Murray relied upon his partners William Stradley and Matt Alford — all three are former assistant district attorneys in Harris County who have been in private practice together since 1999 — to handle matters in Houston. Alford says before Chernoff left for California he called Alford to say Murray had hired the firm and Chernoff needed help and their expertise on police procedures. Alford says he promised Chernoff that he would "hold down the fort in Houston," while Chernoff flew West to meet their new client. [See "Houston Lawyer Representing Doctor With Michael Jackson When He Died," Texas Lawyer, Tex Parte Blog, June 29, 2009.]

                                At the Ritz-Carlton, Murray and Chernoff created an office in a private room at the hotel restaurant. On June 26 and June 27, Chernoff says, he began negotiating with the LAPD regarding the police's scheduled second interview of Murray. Chernoff says he asked the LAPD officers to meet Murray and himself at the hotel to avoid unwanted press attention. And Chernoff says he asked the police to control leaks. "The agreement with them right from the get-go was no leaks," recalls Chernoff, "with the understanding that you can't protect completely from leaks in the long term."

                                "At that initial point of time . . . you hope you can keep things pretty clean. First, you want to know where the police's initial investigation is headed. You certainly don't want the investigation to be politicized. We knew everyone is looking for someone to blame. So you identify where the investigation is heading and how that is going to fit into what your client is going to tell them."

                                On June 27, the LAPD issued a press release regarding Murray stating: "On June 27, 2009, Dr. Conrad Murray, the physician who was with Michael Jackson at the time of his collapse, voluntarily contacted the Los Angeles Police Department. Detectives assigned to Robbery-Homicide Division met with Dr. Murray and conducted an extensive interview. Dr. Murray was cooperative and provided information which will aid the investigation." Tenesha Dobine, a spokeswoman for the LAPD, says the department has not issued any more statements regarding Murray.

                                The weekend after Jackson's death, Chernoff didn't sleep much. On June 27, Chernoff says, he was too busy with Murray and the police to pay attention to the dozens of emergency text messages he received from his partners in Houston.

                                By mid-morning June 27, Alford recalls, the rollercoaster started. The Houston Chronicle posted a story identifying Chernoff and his partners as Murray's counsel, Alford says, and within a half an hour, "the top blew off things." His BlackBerry, where calls to the firm's office were forwarded, began ringing every 30 seconds with calls from reporters, Alford says. Local television news trucks parked outside Alford's house. Network news representatives began calling to request interviews with Murray.

                                Alford needed help. So he called Stradley, who was looking forward to a week of vacation having just finished preparing for trial on another case. Stradley recalls his wife, who picked up the phone, told him that Alford wanted him to put on a suit and go over to his house. Puzzled and not yet up to speed on Murray's situation, Stradley went to Alford's house and they began splitting up the task of returning the press calls. Having talked only briefly to Chernoff, Alford and Stradley attempted to correct what they say was misinformation about Murray that was dominating the 24/7 news cycle. They stressed to reporters that Murray intended to cooperate with the police and that he was not stonewalling. Indeed, they told reporters that Murray was about to meet with the LAPD for a second time, recalls Stradley.

                                Alford sought additional reinforcements. He called Tammy Kidd, a former Harris County prosecutor who now works with Miranda Sevcik, the founder of Houston-based media consulting firm Media Masters. Alford says he asked Kidd and Sevcik to help them manage the press. By the early afternoon on June 27, Alford, Stradley, Kidd and Sevcik all were busy fielding press calls.

                                Sometime that Saturday, Alford says, the firm's Web site suffered a blowout from too many hits. He had Sevcik and Kidd work to fix the problem and establish a blog devoted to Chernoff's press statements regarding Murray. Since then, Chernoff has used the blog to provide reporters with updated information about Murray.

                                During those first days with his client in California, Chernoff knew publicity would factor into his representation of Murray, but he "wasn't fully aware of how crazy it was going to get," he says.

                                Chernoff and Murray met with the LAPD at the Ritz-Carlton the evening of June 27; Chernoff declines to say what his client told the police. After the three-hour meeting, Chernoff says he spoke with his partners in Houston. "When I finally got hold of them, then I realized the magnitude of the interest and was able to start looking at some of the preliminary press reports," he recalls.

                                Initially, Chernoff says, he told Alford to stop returning reporters' phone calls. But Chernoff says Alford told him, "You are not going to shut anything down. You don't know what the f**k is happening." Then Sevcik got on the phone to tell Chernoff that a "Dateline NBC" news producer wanted him to appear on the television show. Chernoff taped the show in Los Angeles on Sunday June 28. During the broadcast, Chernoff says he was able to deliver his main messages about his client: Murray was cooperating with police; he did not prescribe Demerol or Oxycontin to Jackson; he had only treated Jackson for a short period of time; and other doctors had treated and prescribed medication for Jackson.

                                Chernoff didn't get to watch the Sunday "Dateline" broadcast since he was on a plane to Houston when it aired. When he got home, he slept for only a few hours, then he, his partners and the PR team met and decided they needed more TV appearances to get their message out about Murray. The morning of Monday June 29, Chernoff and Alford made their way to a Houston TV studio to appear on all of the network morning news programs, as well as on CNN and Fox News.

                                Chernoff believes the blitz that Monday helped his client. Sevcik says before the media interviews, she looked at roughly 100 comments posted on 20 different Web sites and only about 25 percent of those comments said Murray was an innocent bystander in Jackson's death. After the Monday media appearances by Chernoff and Alford, that figure rose to 75 percent, Sevcik says.

                                Chernoff stresses that his client did nothing wrong and Chernoff wants to make sure the public knows that. The message is especially important in case Murray is charged with a crime, because it will improve Murray's chances of an unbiased jury pool and getting a fair trial. "It's different when you are working with an innocent client. If you have a guilty client, you shut up. But we still believe once toxicology is finally and fully done that our client is going to be proven to be innocent," Chernoff says.

                                The Los Angeles County Coroner's Office performed an autopsy on Jackson's body on June 26, but it has not yet determined the cause of death, and the toxicology report is not complete. "I don't think anyone knows when it's going to be released," says Stradley.

                                On June 30, Chernoff flew to Las Vegas to bring Murray a secure cell phone to prevent electronic eavesdropping as well as to collect certain documents. Chernoff says, given the death threats the doctor has received, Murray is reluctant about seeing patients. Murray now travels with a bodyguard and most of the time he stays at his Las Vegas home in a gated community.

                                Chernoff says he is in constant contact with the LAPD, and officers may want to interview Murray again. "We will be happy to meet with them. We just don't want to get into irrelevant discussions," Chernoff says. If prescription medications were responsible for Jackson's death, "we are completely in the dark about the drugs that were in [Jackson's] system. We're completely in the dark about what drugs would have killed him."

                                Chernoff states "unequivocally" on his blog that "there was no Demerol or Oxycontin administered or prescribed by Dr. Murray" to Jackson and that "Dr. Murray didn't prescribe anything that should have killed Michael Jackson. . . . There's nothing in his history, nothing that Dr. Murray knew, that would lead him to believe [Jackson] would go into sudden cardiac arrest or respiratory failure. There was no red flag available to Dr. Murray, which led him to believe [Jackson] would have died the way he did. It's still a mystery how he died."
                                Who Is Ed Chernoff?

                                After graduating from the University of Houston Law Center in 1987, Chernoff worked as a prosecutor until 1991 in the Harris County District Attorney's Office, which then was led by DA Johnny Holmes. On his job application, Chernoff wrote that his hobbies included "sleeping and eating."

                                At the DA's office, he earned a reputation as a talented trial lawyer with a sharp wit, according to supervisors' comments in his personnel file, which Chernoff provided to Texas Lawyer .

                                Since starting in private practice, Chernoff has handled some big cases, but he says he has never had a client who attracted as much media attention as Murray. In 2003, Chernoff defended Steven Puffer, who was acquitted by a jury after 15 minutes of deliberation for allegedly hacking into the Harris County district clerk's wireless computer system. That same year, Chernoff won an acquittal for Roland Angelle, who was alleged to have pulled a gun on legendary plaintiffs lawyer Walter Umphrey of Beaumont's Provost HUmphrey.

                                Mention Chernoff to other lawyers who've handled high-profile clients and cases and they note his affinity for body-building and tattoos, at least one of which was acquired during a three-month sabbatical from the DA's office during which Chernoff drove a motorcycle around the country. They also say he and his partners are excellent lawyers.

                                "I think Ed, Matt and Bill have done a superb job and done an excellent job of making clear their client was cooperating with police," says Chip B. Lewis, a Houston criminal-defense solo who represented Kenneth Lay, former chairman and chief executive officer of Houston's Enron Corp., who in 2006 was found guilty of conspiracy, fraud and making false statements. Lewis also represented Robert Durst, the heir to a real-estate empire who in 2003 was acquitted of murder for allegedly killing his 71-year-old Galveston neighbor.

                                Rusty Hardin of Houston's Rusty Hardin & Associates, who has represented Arthur Andersen LLP and baseball player Roger Clemens, supervised Chernoff when they both worked in the DA's office. Hardin says Chernoff is an excellent attorney with a great sense of humor. He warns, however, that Chernoff will have to be careful about what he says regarding the Jackson case because of the media attention. Hardin says Chernoff has done well in the couple of interviews Hardin has seen on TV. But Hardin says he has discovered through experience that with some high-profile clients, specifically with Clemens, it's better to stop returning reporters' phone calls.

                                Johnny Sutton, the former U.S. attorney for the Western District of Texas who recently launched the Austin office of Ashcroft Sutton Ratcliffe, also worked with Chernoff when they were assistant DAs in Harris County. Sutton says Chernoff "has a great sense of humor. He is wickedly smart. He beats to a different drummer but that makes him much more powerful in the courtroom."

                                But Dan Cogdell of Houston's Cogdell Law Firm, who represents Laura Pendergest-Holt, the former chief investment officer at Stanford Financial Group who was the first executive charged in the government's investigation of R. Allen Stanford's financial companies, says he has concerns about how much talking Chernoff and his partners have done with the press. "It's admirable if it's accurate, but it's devastating if it isn't," he says about the details Chernoff has provided about Murray's activities before and after Jackson's death. If Chernoff and his partners are relying on Murray's account of events exclusively, they may have problems, Cogdell predicts. At this early stage of an investigation, Cogdell says, clients are not always reliable about getting all the facts right. "The older I get the more I take the position that I have never won a case in the press, although I have lost a few," Cogdell says.

                                Similarly, David Botsford advises that Chernoff and his partners be cautious when dealing with the press. Botsford is a partner in Austin's Botsford & Roark who represented two U.S. Border Patrol agents in their appeals of convictions for shooting an illegal immigrant. Earlier this year, then-President George W. Bush commuted the former agents' sentences. "You always have to put the clients' interest as paramount," Botsford says. "Lawyers can get into a conflict of wanting to generate press, which helps the lawyer, but can also hurt your client. You have to constantly remind yourself of that. The major rule is if in doubt, don't talk."

                                Chernoff says Murray's freedom is his priority. "If this case is charged, I worry greatly about Dr. Murray because it's going to be a long trial, incredibly expensive, expert costs are going to eat it up. Real justice is only obtained if you have the money to really do what is necessary. My big concern is that Dr. Murray or any private citizen wouldn't have the money." Chernoff says Murray "doesn't have a pot to piss in," and Chernoff doesn't even know if he will get paid for his legal services.

                                For the three lawyers at Stradley, Chernoff & Alford, their new client has been all-consuming. Notes Chernoff, "It has taken up a lot of our time and a lot of energy and thought process, but my clients have been great. And the lawyers in Houston have been great. That is one of the great things about lawyers in Texas. People are extremely pleased that there are Texas lawyers involved in this case."
                                Zuletzt geändert von Brigitte 58; 24.11.2009, 19:58.

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