Hier der letzte Teil der Aussage von TJ. Von oben nach unten. Alles dann hier zu lesen.
Insgesamt schöne und emotionale Äußerungen über MJ von TJ und Taj.
Intressant, dass er sagte, dass er traurig war, dass Grace als Kindermädchen von der Jackson-Familie entlassen wurde. Sie wollte die Erziehung der Kinder im Stil von MJ, genau wie TJ und seine Brüder fortsetzen, aber es habe Differenzen mit Teilen der Familie gegeben. Nachdem die Kinder ins Haus der Großmutter kamen sei es schwer möglich gewesen den Erziehungsstil fortzusezten, gleiches äußert er auch darüber über die vielen öffentlichen Auftritte (es sei schwer das Leben der Kinder privat zu halten).
Insgesamt ist es natürlich eine Aussage um den Verlust zu erläutern, die Jury muss das ja irgendwann im Urteilsfalle in einen Betrag umwandeln. Relevantes zum Klagepunkt erwartungsgemäß nicht dabei. Er sah MJ einmal in 2009, beim Familientreffen. Dort habe er einen glücklichen Eindruck gemacht. Von Phillips nahm er nach seinem Tod für MJs Kids Karten für die Lakers an. Dieses Spiel besuchte er mit den Kindern. In der Depositon sagte er aus, dass er sich bei Phillips für die Karten bedankte, im Prozess sagte er, er kann sich nicht erinnern ob er sich bedankt hat. Die Jackson-Anwältin hebt im Re-Cross später dann noch hervor TJ habe da ja zu dem Zeitpunkt noch nichts von den Treffen von Murray mit Phillips gewusst. MJ hat TJ und Brüdern mehrmals in den 90ern und 2000ern gesagt, dass er umgebracht werden wird auf Grund seiner Erfolges.
Heute dann Karen Faye im Zeugenstand.
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After MJ died, Grace Rwamba came back to work with the family, TJ explained. But he said there was a situation where Grace had to move on.
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TJ: I was a little disappointed she had to. Along with my grandmother, she was the mother figure the kids had in their lives.
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"I don't know specifically what happened but I think there had been conflicts between Grace and other members of the family," TJ said.
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TJ said MJ raised the kids differently. They read a lot, didn't watch tv during the week, one movie a week if they earned, TJ explained
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"Once my uncle passed, they came into my grandma's house in regular society, it was hard to maintain the same lifestyle," TJ expressed.
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"She (Grace) wanted to maintain, as did my brothers and I, my uncle's child raising," TJ said.
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Boyle asked TJ about Paris deposition regarding Grace. Defendant's attorney objected, they went to a sidebar and lunch break.
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Attorney Jessica Stebbins Bina did the cross examination of TJ on behalf of AEG.
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Bina asked about Katherine's health problems last summer and if he's aware of any health problems? TJ said no.
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Bina inquired how many times TJ saw or spoke with MJ and the children. He said he spoke with his uncle every other month.
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TJ definitely remembers seeing MJ at least once in 2009.
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Katherine was in court wearing a fuschia jacket. Aside from TJ, she was also accompanied by Taj Jackson.
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Bina asked if TJ draws salary for being MJ's children co-guardian.
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"It was hard for me to accept it, my grandmother insisted and a couple of months ago I began receiving it," TJ said.
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Bina asked about children being more exposed to the media after MJ died, like going on Oprah and Prince working on Entertainment Tonight.
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"It's difficult, because they are 15 and 16," TJ said. "It's hard to maintain that private life."
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"It was very important for him to excel in his career," TJ said about Prince.
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"I didn't release music until I was 16 or 17," TJ said. "I encourage them to be children first."
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Paris wants to be an actress, Prince says he wants to act then become a producer, TJ explained.
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Bina: As their guardian you haven't prevented them to be in the public eye TJ: It's hard to do that when he's straight A student with honors
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'If he really wants to do it, 100%, he should be able to do it at 16," TJ said about Prince working on a television show.
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"I wanted to do for the art of it, I like the quiet, private life," TJ explained.
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"I would say they want to build their own career, and ET is a stepping stone for his acting career," TJ said about Prince.
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TJ: It's tough, as long as he (Prince) understands his responsibilities and the pitfalls, it's hard to say no
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Bina: You didn't go to Carolwood house? TJ: Not before MJ died
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TJ said the last time he saw MJ alive was in his grandparents anniversary, where most of the family member were there.
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Bina notes the anniversary happened on May 14, 2009.
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"He was in a good mood," TJ recalled. "He was happy, he was talking about the kids, making jokes, that stuff."
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TJ didn't remember MJ being extremely thin then, but said he wasn't concerned to check it.
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"He was just happy and jolly and I was just happy to see him and the kids," TJ said.
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TJ: We talked primarily about the children, that I wanted more kids, talked about movies.
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TJ said before MJ left, he asked him if he was going to London. "I said 100% and he said ok, see you there," TJ testified.
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TJ said MJ was excited that TJ was going to London. TJ said he didn't know if MJ was happy because of tour or for being around his family
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The only time TJ recalled seeing his uncle in 2009 was at the anniversary dinner.
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Bina asked TJ about MJ's wedding gift to him, which was $30,000 in cash. "He wanted to pay for my wedding, but the wedding passed," TJ said.
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TJ reluctantly accepted the gift. Bina asked if MJ was in financial difficulties then and couldn't afford the gift. TJ said he didn't know.
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Bina: Did you ever talk to your uncle about his finances? TJ: No
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"At the dinner, MJ seemed happy," TJ said. "I don't think he would be sad if he was sad," TJ said about MJ during the anniversary dinner.
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Bina: Did you consider your uncle to be a private person? TJ: For the most part, yes
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Bina: Did you ever see a doctor on Dangerous tour? TJ: No
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"I don't remember seeing a doctor in the HIStory tour either," TJ said.
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TJ testified he was familiar with Dr. Metzger. He said he had not heard of the drug Propofol before MJ died.
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"I've heard many rumors about my uncle that were not true," TJ testified.
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Bina: You never personally saw substance abuse? TJ: No
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TJ said he didn't believe MJ had a substance abuse problem, never saw him take pills.
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Bina asked if TJ thought MJ would've told him if he had a drug problem.
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"I don't think he would've told me, but I'm not sure. He told me some things, but I don't think so," TJ responded.
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"My cousins and I were going to Laker game, they wanted to go to ESPN zone before the game, and that's when I met Randy Phillips," TJ said.
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Bina asked if TJ thanked Phillips for getting them tickets. TJ testified he didn't know he got the tickets.
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But in his deposition, TJ testified he did thank Phillips for the tickets.
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Bina asked about MJ's lavish lifestyle.
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"It's hard to measure myself against my uncle, he was kind of person who loved art, liked collectibles, liked the best of the best" TJ said
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But TJ noted MJ wore pajama bottoms, V necks, and Mickey Mouse watches.
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"Homes I would say yes, he wanted nice homes. Cars yes and no," TJ explained.
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TJ said MJ was very important to him, had a lot of influence on him.
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Bina: It's hard for you to believe he could've died of drug overdose? TJ: It's hard for me to know that he's dead
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Bina: Do you believe your uncle was murdered? TJ: I do
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"He (MJ) did tell me and a couple of his brothers he would be murdered because of his position, because he was a target," TJ said.
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TJ had conversation with MJ about it during mid 90s to mid 2000s.
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In re-direct, Boyle said he wanted to talk about the Lakers tickets.
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Boyle: Did you know at that time that Mr. Phillips had a secret meeting with Dr. Murray? TJ: I didn't know
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TJ said they didn't go with Phillips to the Laker game, he was just there, at the game zone.
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Boyle: Do you think Jackson's kids should be allowed to go to the Laker games? TJ: I think they should go anywhere they want
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TJ said he began acting as the children's co-guardian shortly after MJ died.
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Boyle: Did you do it for four years for free? TJ: It was out of love
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TJ said his grandma convinced him to accept payment because he has three kids of his own that are losing a lot of his time.
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Nothing further from the attorneys, TJ he was excused. He traded places with brother Taj in audience, sat next to his grandmother.
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Deborah Chang did direct examination.Taj, real name Tariano Jackson, II is 39 years old. He is the first grandson.
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"I was spoiled with love, let's just say that," Taj said.
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Taj said he was close to MJ. "My uncle, besides being my musical role model, he was like an older brother to us," Taj explained.
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"He guided our lives, he was everything," Taj said about MJ. "I feel lost some times because he's not here."
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"When my mom passed, he stepped in and made sure our whole world didn't crumble," TJ said about MJ.
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MJ helped us with school, Taj said, paid for his college. He encouraged his nephew do it for his mother, to make her proud.
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Taj said his mother and father were very much in love, but separated. "They loved each other, I never understood the problem."
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"My mom really looked up to my uncle, leaned on him a lot," Taj testified. "He loved the way that she raised us."
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"It was known she put us first," Taj said. Dolores (DD) Jackson was Taj's mom's name.
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Taj said he stayed at Neverland many times. "Neverland to me, he (MJ) always let us know, it was to help people," Taj explained.
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"My uncle didn't eat candy, it was for the sick children he was bringing to Neverland," Taj explained.
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Taj said MJ would take hundreds of people from Make a Wish foundation. "He wanted to make them better, he felt that he could."
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Ryan White became poster child for HIV/AIDS Taj said. This was during the time we were all terrified about it; Ryan was kicked out of school
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"They had a really strong relationship," Taj said, explaining MJ took Ryan to Neverland, went into the pool with him.
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"It was Disneyland," Taj said about Neverland. "He named the train station after my grandma, Katherine. There's a plaque with her name."
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After Ryan White died, Taj said MJ dedicated the song "Gone Too Soon" to him.
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Chang played the video clip of the song.
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Taj: Michael taught us that being a musician and having the influence not only to make music but to make a change in the world
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"He was constantly trying to help people," Taj said, adding there were lots of things the media didn't know about MJ.
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"I was the first Jackson to go to college, he was so proud of that," Taj said.
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Taj also attended Buckley School, went to Loyola Marymount college, studying Music, Film and TV. He needs to finish the last year of school.
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Chang: Was he your mentor? Taj: Yes, definitely
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Taj said his dad Tito was his mentor at baseball. He coached their little league team.
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Taj said he shared three things with MJ: Music, Film and the Three Stooges, which Michael loved.
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"He bought me my first camera," Taj said. He shot home video of his mother and brothers while she was still alive in 1994.
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"I keep my most sentimental things in my safe," Taj explained about a note he has from MJ.
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Note: Taj, I saw these and thought they were perfect for you. Love always, Uncle Doo Doo
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Taj said MJ was very close with Lionel Richie. Played snippet video of 3T.
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Taj co-directed their last video for album brotherhood. Chang played a snippet of it, quite funny video. Some jurors were laughing.
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Chang: Was your uncle proud of you? Taj: Yes, very proud
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Taj said he lived at Neverland for 6 months. He said his grandma was there all the time.
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Taj said MJ asked him to help raise the children. Taj said he was just about to begin your with 3T and MJ understood it.
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Taj became the person in charge of MJ's storage and belongings.
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Chang asked Taj who was MJ's mentor: "Definitely my grandma, he would tell me that, you could see it, I sensed that," Taj responded.
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"My mom was my mentor and my mom's mentor was my grandma," Taj said. "They all shared the purity in their heart," Taj explained.
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"My grandma was my uncle's compass in life," Taj said. "He was constantly trying to make her proud of him."
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Taj said having children was something they encouraged MJ, since they thought he was going to be a great father.
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"It lit him up, that's what he lived for, his kids and my grandma," Taj said. When MJ died, Taj said they stepped in right away.
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"I think it's more difficult because my uncle to them was both father and mother, he was everything for them," Taj said.
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"When you lose a parent, your life is never the same again," Taj expressed. He said it hurts specially during milestones moments in his life
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"I just got married," Taj said, crying. "And my mom wasn't there."
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Taj told the jury they chose to marry at Hayvenhurst because it was the place his mom and his uncle would be.
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Taj got married on June 16. He said he had a vase with a candle in it lit for his mother.
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Taj said he and his brothers wrote the song "Everything" at Hayvenhurst. Judge breaks for afternoon session. Katherine wipes her eyes.
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Attorneys and the judge discussed extensively about things that one side wants to show the jury but the other side doesn't.
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Judge adjourned session early for the jury. They are ordered back tomorrow morning at 10 am PT.
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Karen Faye will resume her testimony tomorrow from a few weeks back. We hope to see you then!
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