K. Jackson-Klage gegen AEG- Der Prozess- Nur News -Keine Diskussion

[Lena]

Bevor AEG heute das Kreuzverhör mit Erk fortsetzte machten die Anwälte Aussagen dazu wie lange der Prozess noch dauern werde, da die Jury diesbezüglich gestern Auskunft erbat.
Putman sagte unter der Vorraussetzung, dass Panish diese Woche fertig wird, dass er erwartet seinen Fall bis Ende August zu präsentieren. In der ersten Hälfe vom September gibt es nur 4 Gerichtstage, so wenn es ein paar Tage Verögerung gibt heißt dies das es bis Mitte oder Ende September gehen wird, so Panish. Richterin sagt das sie erwartet das der Fall Mitte bis Ende September zu Ende ist.

Anthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 1h

Strong continued to challenge Erk’s projections of Michael Jackson’s earnings. She focused on estimates for endorsement deals.
Öffnen
Anthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 1h

AEG Live defense attorney Sabrina Strong continued her cross-examination of CPA Arthur Erk, who started testifying on Friday.
Öffnen
Anthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 1h

Palazuelos: “Even though we’re going over a little bit, I don’t think it’s unreasonable.” She told juror to convey any concerns to the court
Öffnen
Anthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 1h

Palazuelos told the jury she expected the case to end in mid-September, which is later than some jurors thought they’d be here.
Öffnen
Anthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 1h

... estimate is off by a few days, then that would put the end of their case in mid-September.
Öffnen
Anthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 1h

For the first half of September, there are only four days court is in session. Plaintiff’s lawyer Brian Panish noted that if the defense ...
Öffnen
Anthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 1h

Putnam said he’s weighing how much of a defense he needs to put up, and Palazuelos told him he needed to take as long as he needs.
Öffnen
Anthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 1h

AEG Live defense attorney Marvin Putnam said he’s going to try to wrap up his case by the end of August, assuming plaintiff’s rest this week
Öffnen
Anthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 1h

When the judge took the bench, the attorneys addressed the time estimate of the trial. The jury inquired about it yesterday.
Öffnen
Anthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 1h

Superior Court Judge Yvette Palazuelos also called the attorneys into chambers and met with them before testimony resumed.
Öffnen
Anthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 1h

Before testimony began, the clerk outlined the rules for the courtroom and courthouse, saying no interviews should occur outside courtroom.
Öffnen
Anthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 1h

We're on the morning break in Jackson vs AEG Live case. A few updates coming...

[bliss]

Bevor AEG heute das Kreuzverhör mit Erk fortsetzte machten die Anwälte Aussagen dazu wie lange der Prozess noch dauern werde, da die Jury diesbezüglich gestern Auskunft erbat.
Putman sagte unter der Vorraussetzung, dass Panish diese Woche fertig wird, dass er erwartet seinen Fall bis Ende August zu präsentieren. In der ersten Hälfe vom September gibt es nur 4 Gerichtstage, so wenn es ein paar Tage Verögerung gibt heißt dies das es bis Mitte oder Ende September gehen wird, so Panish. Richterin sagt das sie erwartet das der Fall Mitte bis Ende September zu Ende ist.

Na, wer`s glaubt wird selig. Ich bin im Oktober dort und glaube langsam ich werde es noch live miterleben können...

[Memphis]

ich bin gespannt was Panish die nächsten 5 wochen "präsentieren" wird!

[Lena]

ich bin gespannt was Panish die nächsten 5 wochen "präsentieren" wird!

Hier ist doch keine Diskussion

Panish ist der Anwalt der Jacksons. Wenn AEG wirklich nur 5 Wochen braucht, dann ist das ja wirklich ein Klecks gegen die 12 Wochen von Panish (oder gibt es doch noch ein 13. Woche?) Gestern gings weiter nur ums Geld und beide Partein nutzten dafür Paris Depsoition für ihre Zwecke. Panish vertrat zudem die Meinung das MJ keinen Verdienstschaden durch Skandale erlitten hatte und führte hierzu auch Tiger Woods und Ar. Rodrigues auf, die weiterhin großes Geld machen.


A-Rod’s name is mentioned during Michael Jackson wrongful death trial
As lawyers sparred over Michael Jackson's earnings potential, the Jackson family's lawyer used Alex Rodriguez as an example of a star who overcame scandal to make big money

Comments (1)
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS

WEDNESDAY, JULY 17, 2013, 9:47 PM


Paris, whose testimony was recorded during a deposition in March, said her father still had hits up his sleeve, but needed to take a break from touring.

A lawyer for AEG had asked her about claims her famous dad planned to “retire” from the music business.

“He still had a lot of music that he was still working on, but he kind of needed to relax,” Paris said as the jury watched the footage on a huge courtroom video screen.
"Er hatte immer noch viel Musik an der er arbeitete, aber er benötigte Zeit zum relaxen" sagt Paris

“Did he tell you he wasn’t going to tour anymore after O2,” AEG lawyer Marvin Putnam asked, referring to the 50 shows that were booked at the famous London arena but ultimately cancelled following Michael’s overdose death on June 25, 2009.
"Erzählte er Euch das er nicht mehr auf Tour gehen wollte nach O2" fragt AEG-Anwalt Putnam

“Yes,” Paris replied.

Jurors heard previously recorded testimony Wednesday from Michael Jackson’s troubled teenage daughter Paris, 15, who tried unsuccessfully last month to take her own life.
MIKE / SPLASH NEWS/MIKE / SPLASH NEWS

Jurors heard previously recorded testimony Wednesday from Michael Jackson’s troubled teenage daughter Paris, 15, who tried unsuccessfully last month to take her own life.

AEG played the deposition testimony in an attempt to contradict Erk’s projection that Michael could have pulled in an earnings bonanza had he lived to take the “This Is It” tour across the globe.

Erk had testified that he believed Michael could have parlayed his success in London into higher ticket prices in other countries, and four more world tours stretching into 2026.

Jurors then saw a second clip of Paris’ testimony requested by lawyers for her grandmother, family matriarch Katherine Jackson.
Den Juroren wurde dann ein 2. Clip gezeigt aus Paris Aussage angefordert durch den K. Jackson-Familienanwalt

“Did (your dad) explain to you how long the (‘This Is It”) tour was going to last,” Putnam asked Paris in the second excerpt shown Wednesday.
"Hat Euch Dein Vater erklärt wir lange die TII-Tour sein wird" fragt Putnam.

“I assume a long time since it was a world tour,” she said. “Those usually last a long time ... He told us that we were going around the world on tour.”
"Ich nehme an eine lange Zeit, da es eine Welttour war" sagt sie. "Sie gehen gewöhnlich lange....Er sagte uns das wir um die Welt auf Tour gehen werden."



Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/entertain...#ixzz2ZPDomsHn


Edit: Gestern fragte die Richtern AEG ob sie beabsichtigen Murray als Zeugen zu berufen. "Ich habe keine Absicht ihn zu berufen2, sagt Putnam.
Heute werden Video-Depositionen von Brow, Propofolexperte und Formuzis, Wirtschaftsexperte gezeigt.

• Anthony McCartney @mccartneyAP 15h
  "I have no intention of calling him," AEG Live defense attorney Marvin S. Putnam said when asked about calling Conrad Murray as a witness.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  

[Memphis]

Hier ist doch keine Diskussion

ich vergesse es immer wieder!
ich komme selbst bei den namen langsam durcheinander.
jetzt

[Lena]

WEDNESDAY, JULY 17, 2013, 9:47 PM


Paris, whose testimony was recorded during a deposition in March, said her father still had hits up his sleeve, but needed to take a break from touring.

A lawyer for AEG had asked her about claims her famous dad planned to “retire” from the music business.

“He still had a lot of music that he was still working on, but he kind of needed to relax,” Paris said as the jury watched the footage on a huge courtroom video screen.
"Er hatte immer noch viel Musik an der er arbeitete, aber er benötigte Zeit zum relaxen" sagt Paris

“Did he tell you he wasn’t going to tour anymore after O2,” AEG lawyer Marvin Putnam asked, referring to the 50 shows that were booked at the famous London arena but ultimately cancelled following Michael’s overdose death on June 25, 2009.
"Erzählte er Euch das er nicht mehr auf Tour gehen wollte nach O2" fragt AEG-Anwalt Putnam

“Yes,” Paris replied.

Jurors heard previously recorded testimony Wednesday from Michael Jackson’s troubled teenage daughter Paris, 15, who tried unsuccessfully last month to take her own life.
MIKE / SPLASH NEWS/MIKE / SPLASH NEWS

Jurors heard previously recorded testimony Wednesday from Michael Jackson’s troubled teenage daughter Paris, 15, who tried unsuccessfully last month to take her own life.

AEG played the deposition testimony in an attempt to contradict Erk’s projection that Michael could have pulled in an earnings bonanza had he lived to take the “This Is It” tour across the globe.

Erk had testified that he believed Michael could have parlayed his success in London into higher ticket prices in other countries, and four more world tours stretching into 2026.

Jurors then saw a second clip of Paris’ testimony requested by lawyers for her grandmother, family matriarch Katherine Jackson.
Den Juroren wurde dann ein 2. Clip gezeigt aus Paris Aussage angefordert durch den K. Jackson-Familienanwalt

“Did (your dad) explain to you how long the (‘This Is It”) tour was going to last,” Putnam asked Paris in the second excerpt shown Wednesday.
"Hat Euch Dein Vater erklärt wir lange die TII-Tour sein wird" fragt Putnam.

“I assume a long time since it was a world tour,” she said. “Those usually last a long time ... He told us that we were going around the world on tour.”
"Ich nehme an eine lange Zeit, da es eine Welttour war" sagt sie. "Sie gehen gewöhnlich lange....Er sagte uns das wir um die Welt auf Tour gehen werden."



Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/entertain...#ixzz2ZPDomsHn

Video dazu

Nachdem Brown gestern nochmals mitteilte das Propofol keinen Schlaf bring7 (welch Neuigkeit) tritt dann heute Kathrine in den Stand.

Panish erklärte das sie mehere Pausen während des Tages brauchen wird und sie am Nachmittag müde wird. Sie wird von MJs Kindheit, über seinen Starruhm bis zum Tod berichten.

ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 35m
She is expected to talk about MJ from early ages until stardom and death. We're told it will be a very emotional testimony.
Expand Reply Retweet Favorite More
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 36m
Panish told the judge Mrs. Jackson will need to take a few breaks throughout the day and gets tired in the afternoon.
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 37m
Judge adjourned trial until tomorrow morning at 9:30 am PT. Katherine Jackson will take the stand.
Expand

[geli2709]

The Jacksons vs. AEG Live — Zeugen der Jacksons, 36. Teil

19. Juli 2013

Ein Experte für finanzielle Angelegenheiten im Musikbusiness, sagte aus, dass Michael Jackson mit einer Welt-Tournee, Merchandising und einer Show in Las Vegas (ohne persönliche Beteiligung) bis zu seinem 65. Geburtstag 1.1 bis 1.5 Milliarden US-Dollar hätte einnehmen können. Die Anwälte von AEG bemühen sich seit Dienstag, diese Zahlen massiv herunter zu schrauben. Dabei zeigten sie auch Aussagen von Katherine und Paris Jackson.

Der Experte Arthur L. Erk präsentierte der Jury am Montag Hochrechnungen, wie viel Michael Jackson in 15 Jahren nach 2009 hätte einnehmen können. Er stützte sich dabei auf AEG E-Mails, die damals mit einer auf die Londoner Konzerte folgende Welt Tournee spekulierten.

Erk, der bereits für Stars wie die Band Kiss, Britney Spears oder Notorious B.I.G arbeitete, und seine finanziellen Hochrechnungen als konservativ bezeichnete, sagte, er habe folgende Annamen getroffen: Eine 37-monatige Tour (mit längeren Pausen dazwischen) mit durchschnittlich zwei Konzerten pro Woche im zentralen Europa, Asien, Australien und in den USA. Zusätzlich Merchandisingverkäufe und Sponsoring. Ausserdem rechnete er mit einer zehnjährigen Show in Las Vegas die auf Michael Jacksons Musik basiert hätte, aber ohne dessen persönliche Teilnahme stattfinden hätte können.

AEG verkaufte in nur fünf Stunden 750 000 Tickets für die Londonder This Is It. Erk unterstrich, dass die Tickets in „Rekord brechender Zeit“ verkauft wurden, was es noch nie zuvor gab und auch bisher nicht übertroffen wurde. Arthur Erk zeigte der Jury eine Statistik von Billboard über die Touren im Jahr 2009 mit den höchsten Einnahmen, angeführt von U2, Madonna und Paul McCartney. Jackson hätte sie alle geschlagen. „Michael Jackson war in einer Klasse für sich selbst. Er war bekannt als der King of Pop. Da gibt es niemanden, der an ihn ran kommt“, so Erk.

Erks Prognose zog auch extravagante Ausgaben Jacksons von USD 134,386,236 in seine 15 Jahre Berechnung mit ein. Bis Michael 65-jährig in den Ruhestand hätte treten können. Erks Prognose ignorierte aber Michael Jacksons Tantiemen für dessen bisherigen Alben und Kompositionen, da er diese Einnahmen so oder so gehabt hätte. Letzteres kommentierte Kevin Boyle, einer der Anwälte der Jacksons.

Erk hatte der Jury Michael Jacksons Verkaufszahlen vor Augen geführt: So habe Thriller weltweit 65 Millionen abgesetzt, Bad 45 Millionen, Dangerous 32 Millionen, Off The Wall und HIStory 20 Millionen und Invincible 13 Millionen. „Wenn man dies historisch betrachtet, so hat er eine gewaltige Fan Basis“, sagt Arthur Erk.

Obwohl MJ nur für die Londoner Konzerte unterschrieben hatte, hoffte AEG, Michael würde im Anschluss einer Welt Tournee zustimmen. In einer E-Mail schrieb Randy Phillips nach dem rekordbrechenden Ticketverkauf: „Wir hätten basierend auf die Nachfrage über 200 Shows machen können. Wichtige Stars wie Coldplay, Akon, Blackeye Peas, etc. wollen supporten.“

Die Anwälte von AEG präsentierten dann am Mittwoch Dokumente, die zeigten, dass AEG Live LLC im September 2008 Pläne für eine 186 Konzerte umfassende Welttournee Michael Jacksons in Europa, Indien, Australien und in den USA entwarfen. AEG spekulierte, dass MJ durch die Auftritte 132 Millionen eingenommen hätte. Diese Summe wäre einiges tiefer, als diejenige von Arthur Erk, der für 260 Konzerte mit 835 Millionen gerechnet hatte.

AEG unterstrich auch, dass der King of Pop Anfang 2009 nur für die Londoner Konzerte unterschrieben hatte und (noch) keinen weiteren Gigs zugestimmt hatte, obwohl diese Option im Vertrag festgehalten war. Mit den Konzerten in London hätte Michael zwischen 22 und 30.7 Millionen Dollar verdienen können. Sponsorverträge waren damals keine vorhanden.

Die Verteidigung zeigte der Jury ein Video von Paris Jackson, in dem sie sagte, dass ihr Vater nach den Londoner Konzerte nicht mehr auftreten hätte wollen, aber eine Welttour mit seinen Kindern in Betracht zog. „Hat er dir erläutert, wie lange die Tour dauern sollte?“, so die Frage von Putnam in der vorgängigen Befragung. „Ich nehme an eine lange Zeit, seitdem es eine Welttour war, aber diese dauern gewöhnlich lange“, so Paris. „Wie kamst du darauf, dass es eine Welttour war?“- „Weil er es uns erzählte“, so Paris. „Dass wir rund um die Welt auf Tour gehen werden.“ Paris berichtete zuvor: „Er hatte noch immer eine Menge Musik, an der er noch immer arbeitete, aber auf eine Art musste er sich ausruhen.“

Am Dienstag sagte die AEG Anwältin Sabrina Strong zum Experten der Jacksons, er habe Michaels Geschichte völlig ignoriert. So sei Michael verklagt worden, da er Konzerte abgesagt hatte (nach dem Jahr 2000, Anm.). und er habe eine Medikamentenmissbrauchs-Geschichte gehabt. Ausserdem sei seine Popularität durch den Kindsmissbrauchsprozess im Jahr 2005 minimiert worden, oder etwa wegen dem „Baby über den Balkon halten“-Skandal in Berlin. Arthur Erk war damit nicht einverstanden und meinte, die This Is It Tour wäre eine aussergewöhnliche Tour geworden. Und spätestens während der Welttournee wäre sein Ruf reputiert gewesen, so Erk. Die Rekorde brechenden This Is It Ticketverkäufe hätten gezeigt, dass das Interesse am King of Pop keinesfalls geschwunden war.

AEG Anwältin Strong erinnerte daran, dass MJ gemäss ihrem Zeugen und stellvertretendem AEG Vorsitzenden Paul Gongaware, durch die HIStory Tour keine Gewinne gemacht hätte. Dies obwohl die HIStory Tournee die Tour mit den höchsten Brutto-Einnahmen war. (165 Millionen durch Ticketverkäufe der 82 Konzerte und Merchandising). Ausserhalb des Gerichtsgebäudes sagte Erk den Reportern, dass Michael keinen Gewinn machte, da er 85 Prozent seiner Einnahmen für wohltätige Zwecke gespendet habe. Ein anderer Journalist wollte wissen, was er dazu meine, dass AEG die Missbrauchsvorwürfe erwähnt hatte: „Sie können alles erwähnen. Wir sind bereit.“

Die AEG Anwältin Strong unterstrich auch, dass Erk Michaels Schulden von 400 Millionen Dollar und die drohende Zwangspfändung vom Encion Anwesen der Jacksons (in Michaels Besitz) ignoriert hatte. Sie erläuterte, dass Michaels Sony/ATV Anteil mit einem 320 Millionen Kredit belastet war. Ausserdem erwähnte sie die Behauptungen eines früheren Managers von MJ, dass Michael pro Jahr zwischen 20 und 30 Millionen mehr ausgebe, als einnehme.

Erstmals wurde im Gerichtssaal eine (vorgängig aufgenommene) Aussage von der Klägerin Katherine Jackson gezeigt. Darin sagte Katherine, dass Michael ihr gesagt hätte, den Moonwalk mit 50 Jahren nicht mehr zeigen zu wollen. Sie sei überrascht gewesen, als ihr Sohn die This Is It Konzerte angekündigt hatte.

Bezüglich den erwähnten Aussagen von Paul Gongaware: Dieser hatte Ende Mai ausgesagt, dass Michael in der ersten Hälfte der HIStory Tour 26 Millionen verloren habe. Er sei dann für die letzten 40 Konzerte der zweiten Tourhälfte ins Organisationsteam geholt worden, um Kosten zu kürzen. Gongaware bezeichnete HIStory als eine der anspruchvollsten Touren und Michaels Auftritte als „sensationell.“

Quelle: jackson.ch, latimes.com, cnn.com, bbc.co.uk, nydailynews.com

Weiterlesen unter http://www.jackson.ch/the-jacksons-v...ksons-36-teil/
Copyright © jackson.ch

[rip.michael]

Jacksons vs AEG - Day 50 – July 17 2013 – Summary

Outside the presence of the jurors, judge told everyone to follow the rules of the court and that things are getting out of hand. This comment was made in light of the heated exchange between the attorneys in the hallway yesterday while talking to the media and fans. Judge called attorneys for both sides into her chambers for a sidebar. Earlier today, the court sent email to all media members that interviews are to be conducted only in approved areas or outside the building. Yesterday, after session concluded, attorneys for both sides were in the hallway speaking to the media and got angry at each other. Jacksons' attorney Brian Panish and AEG's attorney Marvin Putnam shouted words to each other. Sheriffs were summoned to calm them down. (ABC7)

Before testimony began, the clerk outlined the rules for the courtroom and courthouse, saying no interviews should occur outside courtroom. Superior Court Judge Yvette Palazuelos also called the attorneys into chambers and met with them before testimony resumed. (AP)

When jurors took their seats, Judge Yvette Palazuelos told them they have a better estimate for end of trial to be in mid-September. Judge said attorneys are trying their best to expedite things, but with some days off and lots of witnesses estimate is stretched further. (ABC7) When the judge took the bench, the attorneys addressed the time estimate of the trial. The jury inquired about it yesterday. AEG Live defense attorney Marvin Putnam said he’s going to try to wrap up his case by the end of August, assuming plaintiff’s rest this weekPutnam said he’s weighing how much of a defense he needs to put up, and Palazuelos told him he needed to take as long as he needs. For the first half of September, there are only four days court is in session. Plaintiff’s lawyer Brian Panish noted that if the defense estimate is off by a few days, then that would put the end of their case in mid-September. Palazuelos told the jury she expected the case to end in mid-September, which is later than some jurors thought they’d be here. Palazuelos: “Even though we’re going over a little bit, I don’t think it’s unreasonable.” She told juror to convey any concerns to the court (AP)


CPA Arthur Erk Testimony


AEG cross


Sabrina Strong, for AEG, doing the questioning.

Strong continued to challenge Erk’s projections of Michael Jackson’s earnings. She focused on estimates for endorsement deals. (AP) Strong asked Erk about sponsorship/endorsement. He estimated MJ would get $317 million in the "This Is It" tour. Erk estimated clothing endorsement to be $50 million and $217 million based on a calculation of a Pepsi deal Beyonce had in 2012. Erk said MJ's clothing would become a fashion statement and that people would want to wear it. Thus the demand. Strong questioned whether Erk really thought MJ, at 50 years old, would be a fashion icon for young audience. He said yes. She then asked if the $50 million figure was speculation. Erk said no that he had reasonable belief shows would happen, clothes would sell. "Speculative is hope," Erk opined. Erk came up with $50 million for clothing endorsement based on earlier deal of $28 million plus inflation/financial adjustments to year 2009. Erk said he relied on news reports regarding Beyonce's Pepsi deal. He didn't actually see the deal himself. Beyonce's most recent gross was close to $120 million. The Pepsi deal was, reportedly, $50 million, which is almost 42% of the tour revenue. (ABC7) Strong challenged all of Erk’s figures this morning, starting out with his endorsement projections. Erk stated his figures were conservative. Erk projected that Jackson would get a $50 million clothing endorsement deal. Strong tried to get Erk to say that was pure speculation. Erk said it was his expectation that Jackson would get an endorsement deal based on his popularity in the 1980s, “This Is It” ticket sales. Strong also challenged Erk’s projection that Jackson would have gotten another endorsement deal worth $267 million. Erk based that figure on a calculation based off the reported $50 million value of a Beyonce/Pepsi endorsement deal. Beyonce’s reported deal _ Erk doesn’t know if the figures are right _ was the equivalent of 42% of her tour revenues. The accountant adjusted his figures for Jackson up based on his assumption that the singer would do a 260 show worldwide tour. Erk assumed that Jackson would get a “Pepsi-like” endorsement deal with several companies, but he’s not aware of any deals pending in 2009. Strong also pointed out that Erk’s numbers were gross figures, meaning that he calculated Jackson would receive the full $267 million. Using gross figures wouldn't account for any sharing of the deal’s profits with AEG Live or some other entity. (AP)

Strong: Do you know if anyone ever used your methodology to estimate endorsement deal?
Erk: No (ABC7)

Strong inquired Erk whether he knows any other artist who has endorsement being 40% of gross revenue. Erk said that most endorsement deals are private, Beyonce's was the only one that was made public through the media. Strong questioned whether Erk always trusted the media reports to be true. He said no, but no one disputed Beyonce's endorsement number. Strong asked if Erk knows for a fact that Beyonce's endorsement deal being 42% of gross revenue is true. "If the reported figures are correct, the 42% is correct," Erk said. "I answered before I didn't see the contract, my firm doesn't have Beyonce, I couldn 't confirm the deal." (ABC7)

Strong asked if Erk thought MJ's image was rehabilitated in June of 2009. "What I do know as fact is that the demand was there," Erk said. "The demand was there, I think that is unquestionable.". "I think AEG was more concerned with people in the US than worldwide," Erk said. (ABC7)

Strong: Was his image rehabilitated by June 2009?
Erk: It wasn't consideration on my part since it sold so many tickets in a short time (ABC7)

Strong: So my question was, do you think MJ's image was rehabilitated to get an endorsement deal?
Erk: If you need a yes or no answer, the answer is yes
Erk: By evidence of selling so many tickers, I have no other way to come to that conclusion, but based on the facts of tickets sold, yes
Strong: You are not aware of any endorsement or sponsorship deal for TII tour being in place when MJ died?
Erk: No (ABC7)

Strong asked if MJ's molestation accusations and trial affected his estimation in the endorsement deals. "The outstanding, unprecedented demand for tickets took care of that," Erk said. Going back to Beyonce, Strong asked if Beyonce ever had negative publicity. "As far as I know, no," Erk responded. (ABC7) In discussing the Beyonce deal, Strong brought up the child molestation trial and Beyonce’s squeaky clean image. The lawyer asked Erk whether he knew of any artist who got a sponsorship deal worth hundreds of millions of dollars who’d been involved in a high-profile criminal trial. Erk said that he did not know of any artist who’d received such a big deal after a trial. (AP) “(Beyonce) has never been a defendant in a criminal trial,” Strong suggested to the jury. “In fact, Beyoncehas never really suffered any negative publicity.” (NYDailyNews)

Strong also asked whether Erk’s merchandise estimates were overly-optimistic due to possible over-inflation of his ticket sales projections. Erk said he didn’t think he over-estimated the number of tickets that would be sold on a “This Is It” world tour. The accountant estimated that concert-goers would spend an average of $19 on MJ-merchandise at each concert. (AP)

After a break, Strong asked Erk about his reliance on an AEG Live budget for his projections. He used a budget prepared on June 24, 2009. The AEG budget estimated Jackson would receive between $22 million and $30.7 million from the London “This Is It” shows. It appeared AEG estimated Jackson would also receive another $8 million in merchandise sales. Erk estimated Jackson would earn $452 million for worldwide concerts, another $121 million in merch and $317m for endorsements. (AP) Strong asked Erk if he relied on AEG's own budget to come up with his estimations. He said yes. AEG's projection of what MJ would take home was a little over $20 million, according to the budget Strong showed. Net Income, amount of money AEG Live projected MJ would take home had he performed all 50 shows at the O2 arena: little over $22 million Alternative budget had projection of a little over $30 million, Strong showed. Strong said the range AEG Live was projecting MJ would take home for performing all 50 concerts at O2 arena was between $22 and $30 million. (ABC7)

AEG projected 750,000 tickets sold and didn't estimate revenue of merchandising. AEG did not project a single dollar in endorsement in this budget or any other budget that Erk saw.

Strong showed a side-by-side demonstrative of AEG's and Erk's projection.
Erk's projection:
Net revenue to MJ, 260 tour $460 million
Merchandising $121 million
Endorsements $317 million
Net number of $890.5 million (ABC7)

AEG's defense asserts that the $1.5 billion figure projected by certified public accountant Arthur Erk is inflated. Erk testified that Jackson would likely work beyond his contract deal for 50 shows at London's O2 Arena and instead perform 260 shows, taking the show around the globe and selling out at every venue. But that's not all. Defense attorney Sabrina Strong showed Erk's calculations for tours beyond that. That at age 56, Jackson would embark on four more world tours - a total of 455 shows - Jackson performing until he was 66 years old.(KABC)

Approximately 13 million tickets sold, 260 shows, merchandising and endorsement estimate. Erk said he relied on email exchanges from September 2008 that included records, movies and others, such as worldwide tour. "It shows they clearly intended to take him around the world," Erk said about the email on the plan, mentions a net to MJ of $132 million. Erk said AEG had no idea of the demand and when the shows were sold out in a matter of hours they knew they could take the show everywhere. (ABC7) The accountant said AEG prepared figures in 2008 showing that Jackson could earn $132 million for a worldwide tour. He said that was in a proposal to Colony Capital and was based on a tour of 186 concerts. This was before “TII” contract was signed. Erk said his projections were much higher than these figures because the success of “This Is It” ticket sales showed the demand for MJ shows (AP) The documents prepared by AEG Live LLC envisioned 186 shows, with Jackson earning $132 million for his performances — far less than the $835 million that an accountant who previously testified for the Jackson family had projected the singer would pocket from 260 shows around the globe. (AP)

Strong: Do you know any tour that ever grossed that much?
Erk: No. This would've been world record breaking tour (ABC7)

Strong: You testified in your depo you have no idea whether MJ would be successful at making movies, correct?
Erk: That's correct (ABC7)

Strong asked if Erk recalls Katherine Jackson saying MJ didn't want to do the Moonwalk after he was 50. He said yes.

Strong played Paris Jackson's deposition regarding future plans: Paris says her dad wanted to relax, didn't want to tour anymore. However, Paris also said it was a world tour. "How did you know that? Because he told us we were going around the world," Paris said. (ABC7)

How long did Michael Jackson plan to work? Paris Jackson yawns, and then offers two opinions in a video deposition shown to the jury by the defense.
"He still had a lot of music that he was still working on but he kind of needed to relax," she said.
"So did your dad ever tell you he wasn't going to tour anymore after the 02?" Paris was asked.
"Yeah," she replied.
But later she was asked, "How did you understand it was a world tour?"
"Because he told us," she replied.
"What did he tell you?"
"That we were going around the world on tour," she said. (KABC)

Also on Wednesday, the jury heard videotaped testimony from Paris Jackson.Paris, whose testimony was recorded during a deposition in March, said her father still had hits up his sleeve, but needed to take a break from touring. A lawyer for AEG had asked her about claims her famous dad planned to “retire” from the music business. “He still had a lot of music that he was still working on, but he kind of needed to relax,” Paris said as the jury watched the footage on a huge courtroom video screen.“Did he tell you he wasn’t going to tour anymore after O2,” AEG lawyer Marvin Putnam asked, referring to the 50 shows that were booked at the famous London arena but ultimately cancelled following Michael’s overdose death on June 25, 2009. “Yes,” Paris replied. Jurors then saw a second clip of Paris’ testimony requested by lawyers for her grandmother, family matriarch Katherine Jackson.“Did (your dad) explain to you how long the (‘This Is It”) tour was going to last,” Putnam asked Paris in the second excerpt shown Wednesday.“I assume a long time since it was a world tour,” she said. “Those usually last a long time ... He told us that we were going around the world on tour.” (NYDailyNews)

Strong showed demonstrative with Erk's projection for MJ's future tours:
40 shows at 60 years old
50 shows at age 63
45 shows at age 66

Erk acknowledged MJ did 275 shows between 20-50 years old.

Strong: So you had him do 455 shows over 5 tours until the age of 66?
Erk: 260 shows were reasonably certain to happen, 195 shows was an estimate based on my professional opinion.

Strong questioned Erk: "Are you aware of any other artist doing five tours between age 50 and 66?" "I did not consider that," Erk replied. (KABC)


Jackson redirect

Erk said AEG's experts in the same field as his charge more than him for the work.

Panish: Has Mr. Jackson ever been proved guilty of any allegations that AEG mentioned?
Erk: No
Panish asked if Phillips, Anschutz, Gongaware did not enter into an agreement with MJ due to concerns of the allegations?
Erk: They entered into the 3 year tour contract as well as movie deal
Panish: Was there any emails AEG, Philips, Gongaware saying they didn't want to make money off of MJ due to the allegations raised?
Erk: I didn't see anything to that effect. (ABC7)

Panish asked Erk if Tiger Woods had some things that could be viewed as negative allegations against him. He said he believed so. As to Tiger Woods, Erk said in 2012, he believes it was reported endorsements went back up to $70 million. Panish: Alex Rodriguez -- has there been allegations against him regarding certain activities? Erk: Yes, surfacing every once and a while. Panish: How are his endorsements? Erk: He's doing fairly well (ABC7)

“Let’s talk about A-Rod. Have there been allegations against Mr. Rodriguez about certain activities?” Jackson family lawyer Brian Panish asked a witness in an apparent reference to the accusations of steroid use dogging the Bombers third baseman. “They’re still coming about, surfacing every once in a while,” responded Arthur Erk, a Manhattan accountant called to the stand by the Jackson family.Panish brought up A-Rod, along with Tiger Woods, to draw examples of mega-stars who made big money after being struck by scandal. “How is he doing?” Panish continued, referring to A-Rod. “At least according to media reports, he’s still doing fairly well,” Erk replied. (NYDailyNews)

Regarding Beyonce and her endorsement deal, Erk said the calculation he made came up to 18,5%, not the 42% Strong said. (ABC7)

Panish asked if MJ's past and the allegation have anything to do with how much money MJ could earn. Erk said he based his opinion on AEG's projection and "if it was good enough for them, it was good enough for me." (ABC7)

AEG spent money before even getting to London, Erk testified. Panish asked Erk 2 assume Phillips estimated MJ would make $50-100 million for London dates if it was consistent w/ his opinion. He said yes .
Panish: Assume Phillips said MJ's earnings could rise to 500 million if he did a world tour? Is that consistent with your opinion?
Erk: Yes (ABC7)

As to future tours, Erk said Paris testified in her deposition (played earlier today) that MJ told her they would tour worldwide. Erk said Ortega's deposition and testimony talked about take this tour on the road, to the world, and that MJ would like for him to go too. Erk said Ortega discussed going to India and Japan with MJ. Panish asked if MJ and Ortega working further together. Erk said MJ wanted to ultimately produce movies.(ABC7)

Erk said AEG had the resources to find out about MJ's financial issues and there's no reason to believe they didn't know about MJ's problems (ABC7)

Erk said he didn't focus on MJ's health because AEG signed the contract and began spending money, which determined the tour would go forward. Panish asked if Erk saw evidence AEG was concerned with MJ's health. Erk said only that he passed a physical, was healthy and ready to go.
Panish: Did Phillips make statements as to whether MJ could perform a worldwide tour?
Erk: Yes (ABC7)

Panish said AEG had questions of Demerol, baby, allegations, trials so he wanted to clear whether there was demand for the tour. Panish showed Gongaware's testimony when he talked about the high demand for MJ's tickets. Panish asked why he took Phillips and Gongaware's testimony into consideration for his projections and calculation. "They were the ones selling the tickets, they should be in the know," Erk said. (ABC7)

Panish: Did you take that into consideration as to whether or not there would be demand for MJ's tour?
Erk: Absolutely
Panish: Was MJ popular and could've sold tickets?
Erk: Absolutely (ABC7)

Panish read a lengthy testimony from Randy Phillips when he said they were all surprised with the demand for tickets and standby people. Strong objected, and added that there's no question about the demand for the 50 show.
Panish: Is there any question in your mind AEG not only believed they could sell out in London but worldwide?
Erk: No question
Panish: Would you describe the demand for MJ's ticket a hope?
Erk: No (ABC7)

Erk went through the email describing what Phillips' plans were. "If London goes smoothly, we could migrate this show to the brand new, state-of-the-art stadium in Berlin, the O2 World," Phillips wrote. (ABC7)

Email from September 2008 plan:
In July 2009 -- If all goes well, we embark on a well routed and spread out worldwide tour taking advantages of the gigantic secondary ticket market, massive sponsoring opportunities subject to how well we have rehabilitated him and very lucrative "exotics". (ABC7)

Mick Jagger is 69 years old, lead singer of the Rolling Stones. He just finished up shows that AEG promoted, Erk said. Keith Richards had a long history of heroine problems, Erk said. He's also almost 69 years old and is touring, doing quite well. Barbra Streisand is 71 and just finished up shows for AEG as well, Erk testified. Erk said Streisand grossed more than $18 million. (ABC7)

Panish showed a spreadsheet with all MJ's monthly expenses. The annual consumption based on actual receipts for MJ -- $7.6 million. Erk said he used $570K/month, which would work out to $6.7 million. He used higher monthly figure, but less annually. For professional fees, Erk said he considered 10-20%, anywhere between $3-5 millions. (ABC7)

Panish: Does people usually lend money for people who can't pay it back?
Erk: No (ABC7)

Erk said MJ had assets to secure loans. Erk explained how the loan of significant amount of money works.
Panish: What was it that secured the debt?
Erk: Primarily his Sony/ATV catalogue (ABC7)

Erk said MJ did not have working income in ten years.
Panish: If you don't have work income, is it possible you're going to spend more than you earn?
Erk: Most likely (ABC7)


Panish: Did you just make-up this world tour idea?
Eark: No (ABC7)
Email from Gongaware:
MJ first draft worldwide tour projection. Here's a first-draft look at worldwide MJ tour. On paper, it starts Jan 9 and runs thru April 2011...Right now we project 186 shows... Net to Mikey $132 million. It's a big number, but this is not a number MJ will want to hear. He thinks he's so much bigger than that (ABC7)

186 shows over 27 months -- Gongaware projection
260 shows over 37 months -- Erk projection

Erk said AEG had 1.59 show per week in their projection and Erk had 1.60 shows per week in his projection. (ABC7)
Panish showed a document Gongaware attached to his projection with a list of tentative venues all over the world. World tour included: Berlin, Hamburg, Munich, Paris, Zurich, Milan, Johannesburg, Dubai, Japan, India, Australia, New Zealand , South America, US starting in Florida, Texas, New Orleans, California, Denver, Utah, Chicago. Panish said this is a document prepared by Gongaware in addition to the 50 shows in the O2 arena. There was a projection of $3-$10 million for private shows. Except with the private shows, Erk says his calculation was similar. Panish asked if shows in AEG's projection were carried over to 37 months, how many shows would that be? Erk: Almost 260 . Panish asked why 37 months. Erk said contract between MJ and AEG was 3 years, and he added a month. (ABC7)

Panish asked Erk is he saw multiple AEG documents detailing plans for worldwide tour. He said yes.
Panish: What are the figures AEG used for worldwide tour?
260 shows for my budget, 37 months
186 shows for 27 months (ABC7)

Erk said that prorating the same amount of shows in 37 months, it is almost 260 shows. AEG projection is $132 million in the low end, $150 million in high end for less shows, less months, Erk said. Erk said he used stadium shows and bigger arenas because of unprecedented demand. (ABC7)

Email from Phillips to Leiweke on April 15, 2009: He is happy and they picked all male and female dancers. I intend to shove those 50 shows up Irving's and Rapino's asses and march on to do another 3 years of a world tour. (ABC7)

Email Thomas Overseen saying he had a client with serious interest in MJ's tour in India. Phillips answered: Thanks, Thomas. MJ will definitely heading your way (ABC7)

Panish asked Erk if he reviewed this email to determine if the tour in India wasn't just a hope, but plan. He said yes. (ABC7)

Erk said Phillips was striking deal with Bravado to rent empty store in Oxford Circle to offer nothing but MJ merchandising. Panish asked if Erk believed it would help sell the merchandise. He said yes. (ABC7)


AEG recross

In re-cross Strong asked if Erk saw the June 2009 AEG budget and how much money AEG projected for the sale of merchandising. Erk said he saw it and believes it was maybe in the $10 million range or thereabouts. Erk projected $121 million, the expert said. (ABC7)
Strong: And the merchandise projection AEG had was between $8 and $10 million, right?
Erk: Yes, that's what was in the budget (ABC7)

Strong pointed in the email where there was an indication for "a" date in India, not 60 dates in India like Erk projected. (ABC7)

Strong: AEG Live had a lot of hope after selling the show?
Erk: I think it's more than hope
Strong: Wasn't AEG hopeful for a successful tour?
Erk: You're always hopeful (ABC7)

Email from Phillips to Nanoula in June 2008 detailing the plans for MJ's future: Richard, these are just my off the cuff ideas... The email mentions 12-14 new songs and then release of series on new singles. Erk said he doesn't know that MJ finish them. (ABC7)

Strong: Randy Phillips acknowledged that all had to go well, didn't he?
Erk: It appears that way (ABC7)

Strong asked if Phillips hoped he could have massive sponsorship opportunities if all went well. Erk said yes. Erk said he has no knowledge of what AEG tried to do to get sponsorship opportunities for the tour. As June 2009, Strong asked if Erk saw any evidence or sponsorship in place before his death. He said no. (ABC7)

Strong talked about the September 2008 email with $132 million projection. She asked Erk if the email was written without knowing whether MJ would ever agree to it. He said yes.

Back to India, Gongaware projected 3 shows plus one private show. He contemplated 8 shows in Japan plus one private. Strong said Gongaware's projection was not near what Erk calculated. (ABC7)

Email from Phillips to Leiweke: Colony is receptive but skeptical like us as to whether MJ will really work. (ABC7)

Strong: No one at AEG projected the numbers you projected, correct?
Erk: That's correct (ABC7)

Strong: MJ agreed to only 50 shows at the time he passed away in June 2009, isn't that correct?
Erk: Yes (ABC7)


Jackson redirect

"He took his children wherever we went," Erk said.
Panish in re-re-direct: What did he tell his children
Erk: We're going on a worldwide tour (ABC7)

Panish asked if selling out in a matter of hours is going well. Erk responded "Yes and then some." "It can always go better, but it was fantastic," Erk said. Panish asked if Gongaware, as good promoter and with the sales he saw, would want more shows. Erk said he would've done as many as he could. (ABC7)

----------------------------------------------------------

During arguments late in the day, judge asked AEG if they intend to call Dr. Murray to testify. Putnam responded he has no intention. (ABC7) During arguments on Dr. Brown's testimony, the judge asked AEG's attorneys whether they intend to call Conrad Murray. "I have no intention of calling him," AEG Live defense attorney Marvin S. Putnam said when asked about calling Conrad Murray as a witness. (AP)

Zusammenfassung von Ivy, MJJC #53
__________________________________________

Zusammenfassungen der vorangegangenen gerichtstage:
Day 1 - anträge u. eröffnungsstatements
Day 2 - anhörung und zeugen Senneff u. Martinez
Day 3 - forts. zeuge Martinez u. anhörung
Day 4 - forts. zeuge Martinez
Day 5 - zeugen Anderson und Rogers
Day 6 - zeuge Dr. Wohlgelernter
Day 7 - zeugin Sankey
Day 8 - zeugin Faye
Day 9 - forts. zeugin Faye
Day 10 - zeugen Walker, Rogers, Payne
Day 11 - forts. zeuge Payne
Day 12 - zeugin Hollander
Day 13 - M. Hom videodeposition, forts. zeugin Hollander
Day 14 - forts. zeugin Hollander; zeuge Trell
Day 15 - forts. zeuge Trell
Day 16 - forts. zeuge Trell
Day 17 - forts. zeuge Trell
Day 18 - zeuge Gongaware
Day 19 - forts. zeuge Gongaware
Day 20 - forts. zeuge Gongaware
Day 21 - forts. zeuge Gongaware
Day 22 - forts. zeuge Gongaware
Day 23 - forts. zeuge Gongaware; zeuge R. Phillips
Day 24 - forts. zeuge Phillips
Day 25 - forts. zeuge Phillips
Day 26 - forts. zeuge Phillips
Day 27 - forts. zeuge Phillips
Day 28 - forts. zeuge Phillips
Day 29 - forts. zeuge Phillips
Day 30 - forts. zeuge Phillips
Day 31 - zeuge Berman
Day 32 - zeugin Chase
Day 33 - forts. zeugin Chase; videodeposition Dr. Earley
Day 34 - zeuge Dr. Czeisler
Day 35 - forts. zeuge Dr. Czeisler
Day 36 - forts. Dr. Earley video depo
Day 37 - zeuge Dr. Matheson
Day 38 - zeuge Michael Jackson Jr.
Day 39 - zeugen TJ Jackson, Taj Jackson
Day 40 - zeugin Karen Faye
Day 41 - zeugin Jean Seawright, Human Resources Expert for Jacksons
Day 42 - zeugin Jean Seawright
Day 43 - zeuge Dr. Sidney Schnoll
Day 44 - zeugen Dr. Stuart Finkelstein video depo.; Kenny Ortega
Day 45 - forts. zeuge Kenny Ortega
Day 46 - forts. zeuge Kenny Ortega
Day 47 - zeugen Taj Jackson; Arthur Erk, Jacksons expert CPA
Day 48 - forts. zeuge Erk
Day 49 - forts. zeuge Erk

Exklusiv transcripts eröffnungsstatements u.a. (MJJC #1 ff.)
Zeugenaussage von Prince Michael Jackson Jr.; exklusiv transcripts von MJJC # 7
Deposition transcripts filed with the court.
Note : these are not the full depositions, they are only the portions played in the court.
Dr. Stuart Finkelstein Deposition video transcript
Dr. Earley Deposition video transcript
Tim Leiweke Deposition video transcript
Randy Phillips Deposition video transcript
Quelle Ivy, MJJC #50

[rip.michael]

Jacksons vs AEG - Day 51 – July 18 2013 – Summary

(source : ABC7)

Dr. Emery Brown Video Deposition Testimony

Dr. Brown is an anesthesiologist and practices in Boston, Massachusetts.He detailed his extensive background in the medical field. Dr. Brown is a practicing anesthesiologist, works at MIT in Massachusetts. Among many of his current jobs, Dr. Brown is an Associate Director at Institute for Medical Engineering Science at MIT. He's also on the faculty of Sleep Medicine Dept at Harvard, did his medical thesis under Dr. Czeisler, who testified earlier in the case. Dr. Brown is board certified in anesthesia. He belongs to several professional societies and publications in the field. The first 20 minutes of Dr. Brown's testimony was detailing his qualifications. He has written around 140 or so articles for professional journals on medical matters.

Dr. Brown billed $1,000/hour and asked to donate the funds to Mass General Hospital. The total: $75,000 donated to Mass General Hospital. Dr. Brown has given depositions before, but has not testified in court.

Anesthesia can be different, Dr. Brown said: general anesthesia/sedation and regional anesthesia. In MJ's case, it's a general anesthesia/sedation case. Dr. Brown: General anesthesia consists of 4 behavior and physiology status: unconscious, analgesia (no pain), not moving, amnesia. Dr. Brown said the heart rate, blood pressure, breathing and temperature are under control in order to go into surgery. "General anesthesia is a type of coma, it's a reversible coma," Dr. Brown said. Dr. Brown said coma is a state where patient is unable to receive and respond to stimulus. He said you give drugs to induce coma, more to maintain it during the surgery, then reduce to have patient come back. Dr. Brown said there's tendency to call general anesthesia sleep, but it's not sleep, you wouldn't be able to tolerate surgery under sleep.

Propofol is one of the anesthetics Dr. Brown uses. He reviewed MJ's autopsy and the drug was found in his system. Dr. Brown uses Propofol in almost all the patients he has. It's the most commonly used anesthetic all around the world.

Dr. Brown explained:
Induce anesthesia - put person in coma
Maintain anesthesia - as infusion maintains it
Sedative - manage level of pain

Dr. Brown said Propofol is quite potent on a cc to cc comparison with Valium and benzodiazepines.

He has been studying Propofol for the past 7 years. Dr. Brown doesn't think there's any other person who has studied the drug more than him. Dr. Brown said he published a paper regarding guidelines of use of Propofol.

MJ autopsy indicates the amount of medication (Propofol) is similar to what is found in general anesthesia.
Michael Koskoff: Do you agree with that statement?
Dr. Brown: In terms of levels that were there, I do.
Dr. Brown: The infusion rates found in MJ's autopsy are the same infusion rates when given Propofol for major abdominal procedure.

Dr. Brown is not board certified in sleep medicine. He said Dr. Czeisler is world renowned in sleep medicine and circadian rhythm.Dr. Brown studied the effects of Propofol in relation with sleep. One of the articles is "General Anesthesia, Sleep and Coma." No one had taken the time to put general anesthesia next to sleep next to coma to compare the relationship of the states, Dr Brown explained

Koskoff: Is the state of the brain under Propofol sleep?
Dr. Brown: It is not sleep

Dr. Brown said it's easy for doctors to tell patients they are going under sleep, but his article was exactly to clear up the language.
Koskoff: How about doctors using Propofol as an agent to produce sleep?
Dr. Brown: They would be tremendously mistaken

REM: eyes are moving, brain somewhat in a wake state, body somewhat paralyzed, heart beat irregular
Non-REM -- heart rate slower, breathing a little more regular
Sleep is two states: rem and non-rem
When you sleep, you go into non-REM stage 1, then stage 2 non-REM sleep, stages 3 (slow waves) and 4 sleep non-REM sleep and REM sleep.

Dr Brown: During sleep you have natural oscillation of states. On general anesthesia we bring you to a stage and hold you there for surgery. Dr. Brown said there's no way in the world that you can have the normal sleep patterns while under sedation.

Dr. Brown explained medical coma: you give enough drugs to go down to a state, hold you there to give a chance for the brain to heal.Dr. Brown: Once you are done, you bring them out of induced coma. Dr. Brown said sedation, general anesthesia, medical coma is not sleep. There's no REM or non-REM sleep under sedation or general anesthesia, Dr. Brown explained. Patients don't go under regular sleep patterns. Dr. Brown drew a picture how the sleep circuit works. To be conscious, you have to be awake and have to be able to process, Dr. Brown said.

In order to fall asleep, Dr. Brown said you need to shut the brain down. Dr. Brown: To REM sleep, all the circuits shut down. The control center tells the entire system to shut down; cycle takes roughly 7-8 hours.

Propofol will not produce sleep, Dr. Brown said. Dr. Brown: When you give Propofol, it comes in, knocks out all of the circuits, including respiratory circuit, and the cortex. "It overwhelms the sleep and respiratory circuit, cortex," Dr Brown explained. He said it's not possible to go between REM and non-REM sleep.

"The first criteria of being under sedation is to be unconscious that you can't be awaken," Dr. Brown said. Dr. Brown: You achieve unresponsiveness with Propofol. Dr. Brown: With Propofol you get unconsciousness, you get amnesia, you can't remember. For pain, you need an analgesic. Dr Brown explained for light procedures Propofol is sufficient to produce mild muscle relaxation. For surgery they add muscle relaxant too. "Propofol produces the unconsciousness state of general anesthesia," Dr. Brown said. "To be clear, Propofol can produce a small part of it (analgesia), makes you unaware," Dr. Brown explained. For colonoscopy, for example, the procedure is not that painful but uncomfortable, Dr. Brown said. The mild sedation makes patient unconscious, unaware, you can be unaware to pain, provides some component of analgesia, Dr. Brown said. "For surgery, need to add drug for pain," Dr. Brown explained.

Dr. Brown said patients commonly report feeling good, feeling refreshed after being administered Propofol. Propofol causes release of dopamine, Dr. Brown said. Dopamine is kind of like endorphin we hear, it gives you this good feeling.Brown: Propofol releases dopamine that can be interpreted as refreshed sensation of natural sleep. But Propofol cannot produce natural sleep.

In cross examination, Kathryn Cahan asked about the difference between euphoria and good feeling after using Propofol. Dr. Brown said he's trying to give a lay explanation of what the sensations are, so lay people can understand it. Dr. Brown said release of dopamine can cause what some people could interpret as refreshed, invigorated, some people say euphoria. Only now studies have been able to determine the release of dopamine associated with Propofol. The study was done in rats, not human. "Good feeling" reaction is a well-known effect of the Propofol, Dr. Brown said.

"He was not having a restful sleep if he was using Propofol as a sedative for sleep," Dr. Brown said. Dr. Brown said his understanding is that MJ was using Propofol for many days, so MJ must've had some perceived benefit. He said there have been a number of sources for this information, such as the press, high levels of Propofol in his blood at time of death.

"I was under the understanding the night he died was not the first night he used Propofol," Dr. Brown testified.One of the things Dr. Brown reviewed was Dr. Murray's interview with LAPD, in which the doctor said MJ was taking Propofol for 60 days. Dr. Brown said he believed Dr. Murray's statement that he only gave a small amount of Propofol to MJ the day he died to be false. The doctor said Dr. Murray's statement was not consistent with the autopsy levels.

Dr. Brown said he read Dr. Czeisler's trial testimony and in there the figure of 60 days, or two months, was mentioned. Dr. Brown said he doesn't know what the source was for Dr. Czeisler's 60 days figure. He also noted he's not a sleep expert.

Dr. Brown: One of the reasons I agreed to become part of this case was that I wanted to make it clear what the anesthetic does the brain.Dr. Brown: And I think I've done that. The effects of anesthesia and sleep are not under my purview. Dr. Brown said he has not queried his patients about their sleep pattern after anesthesia.

Dr. Brown explained the typical anesthetic has at least 10 drugs. To try to ascribe the effects of Propofol would be exceedingly naive. The implication of anesthetics as something that has implication on a patient's sleep if not under my purview, Dr. Brown explained.

Dr. Brown: I noticed some inconsistencies of what he (Murray) said we administer (Propofol) and what he said wasn't correct. Cahan asked if Dr. Brown believe Dr. Murray gave MJ Propofol for 60 days prior to his death, according to the LAPD interview. "I have no way of knowing what Dr. Murray did every night when he treated Michael Jackson," Dr. Brown said. Cahan: Have you been able to determine how much Propofol MJ was given in the months prior to his death? Dr. Brown: That's not something I've looked in to

Dr. Brown said he was asked to help understand the mechanism of how Propofol work, not asked to analyze Mr. Jackson's behavior.
Cahan: Can someone be in a profound coma and live?
Dr. Brown: Yes, many years, there are many cases of that
Cahan: And those people don't die as lack of sleep?

Dr. Brown said there's a difference between anesthetizing someone into a coma and someone being in coma from head injury. "You can be there for several days," Dr. Brown said regarding induced coma. In order to maintain sedation, Propofol is given to induce and retain sedation, then decreased to bring the person back, Dr. Brown said. Dr. Brown: You may have different levels of being awake. Dr. Brown: The person may not be the same as they went in. In fact, you don't want the patient to be awake like before a painful surgery. The effect of anesthesia could last several days, Dr. Brown said, and that's currently under study.

Dr. Brown doesn't know how much dopamine is released, but said he could check the numbers.

Dr. Brown said Jacksons' attorneys never told him to testify to something he wasn't comfortable with.

Koskoff talked about the police report where Dr. Murray said he gave MJ Propofol every night for 60 nights up until June 21st. On June 22nd, he started to wean him off, Koskoff said. That seems to be more accurate description to what was in the report, Dr. Brown said


Peter Formuzis Testimony


Jackson direct

Brian Panish did direct examination.

Dr. Formuzis has a Ph.D in Economics. He described his extensive background and qualifications in the field. Dr. Formuzis is a former Cal State Fullerton professor. He worked at the Federal Reserve in various capacities. Dr. Formuzis has consulted for the Los Angeles commission, several private banks, attorneys involved in wrongful death cases for 40 years. Dr. Formuzis has been qualified as expert witness in at least one thousand cases and had cases in several states in the US.

Dr. Formuzis has worked with Panish before. He testified for Panish between 20-30 times, was retained between 50-100 by Panish's firm. Has been retained against Panish's firm too, Dr. Formuzis said. Panish asked if he knows anyone more qualified than him to testify in his field. Dr. Formuzis said no.

Dr. Formuzis was asked to take the income projection created by Mr. Erk and to take those projections and discount them to present value

"Most individuals have capacity, or ability, to earn money," Dr. Formuzis explained. Dr. Formuzis: Some people have the power to make money, ability to make money, but are not doing so.

Dr. Formuzis is not giving an opinion on what loss would be regarding movies and other things Erk didn't calculate. Dr. Formuzis has been doing present value calculation for almost 50 years, about 40 years in wrongful death cases. Dr. Formuzis is only assessing present value of economic loss, not non-economic, like love, companionship. For present value calculation, Dr. Formuzis said you subtract interest and personal consumption to arrive at current figure. Dr. Formuzis used 7-10% discount rate. Panish said AEG has an expert calculating 18% discount rate.

AEG had invested approximately $34 million, so they had confidence they would get that money back, Dr. Formuzis said. The lower the discount rate, the more net money left. The lowest discount rate Formuzis used was 7%. He calculated 10, 15 and 18% as well.

Present value:
$108 ticket price
7% - 919,366,479
10% - 856,002,240 -- Dr. Formuzis chose
15% - 768,026,177
18% - 723,523,742

Total includes tour earnings, merchandising, endorsement, Las Vegas show, LV royalty, professional fees (at 15% rate), personal consumption

Tier 1 Range
$919,366,479 - $723,523,742 (7% to 18% discount rate)

Tier 2 range:
$187,564,227 to $101,639,514 (7% to 18% discount rate)

Dr. Formuzis did not calculate how much the loss of love, companionship to the children and Katherine Jackson.


AEG Cross

In cross examination, Sabrina Strong asked if Mr. Erk's projections are wrong, whether his calculations have no meaning. Dr. Formuzis said it depends how wrong the numbers are. "It would be a proportional degree of errors," he said. Strong then said she had no more questions to Dr. Formuzis. Cross examination lasted a couple of minutes.

Zusammenfassung von Ivy, MJJC #54
__________________________________________

Zusammenfassungen der vorangegangenen gerichtstage:
Day 1 - 50

Exklusiv transcripts eröffnungsstatements u.a. (MJJC #1 ff.)
Zeugenaussage von Prince Michael Jackson Jr.; exklusiv transcripts von MJJC # 7
Deposition transcripts filed with the court.
Note : these are not the full depositions, they are only the portions played in the court.
Dr. Stuart Finkelstein Deposition video transcript
Dr. Earley Deposition video transcript
Tim Leiweke Deposition video transcript
Randy Phillips Deposition video transcript
Quelle Ivy, MJJC #50

[Tijaju]

Familienoberhaupt Katherine Jackson brach am Freitag während ihrer Zeugenaussage im Prozess um den Tod ihres Sohnes Michael vor Gericht in Los Angeles in Tränen zusammen
Als Katherine Jackson (83) am Freitag im Prozess um den Tod ihres Sohnes Michael(†50) vor Gericht aussagen musste, brach die 83-Jährige in Tränen aus.

Ihr Anwalt Brian Panish und ein Gerichtsdiener hatten der 83-Jährigen in den Zeugenstand helfen müssen. „Das Schwerste ist, hier zu sitzen und all die negativen Dinge über meinen Sohn mit anhören zu müssen. Vieles davon entspricht nicht der Wahrheit. Und er kann nicht selbst hier sein, um sich zu verteidigen“, sagte sie laut der „Los Angeles Times“.
„Sind sie hier, um für ihren Sohn zu sprechen“, fragte ihr Anwalt. „Ich werde mein bestes geben“, antwortete die Matriarchin. Auf die Frage, ob sie ihren Sohn vermisse, brach die 83-Jährige schließlich in Tränen aus und schluchzte, laut dem Internetportal „radaronline.com“, „das kann man nicht in Worte fassen.
http://www.bunte.de/newsline/katheri...aid_43748.html

Katherine Jackson, Mutter des toten Pop-Idols Michael Jackson, beklagt sich vor Gericht: Ihr Sohn sei vor seinem Tod 2009 schwer krank gewesen und habe niemals die notwendige Hilfe erhalten. "Es ist schwer, hier im Gerichtssaal zu sitzen und all diese Dinge hören zu müssen", sagte die 83-Jährige in Los Angeles. "Mein Sohn war krank und niemand hat versucht, ihm zu helfen", klagte sie. "Viele Dinge, die gesagt worden sind, sind nicht wahr. Und er ist nicht mehr da, um sich selbst zu äußern."

http://www.n-tv.de/leute/Niemand-hat...e11025486.html

„Mein Sohn war krank und niemand hat versucht ihm zu helfen“, klagte die 83-Jährige weiter. Als es in der Verhandlung um den Arzt Conrad Murray ging, der Michael Jackson mit einer Überdosis Propofol getötet haben soll, sagte sie, dass sie schon bei ersten Begegnung mit ihm das Gefühl gehabt habe, er sei nicht die richtige Person, um sich um Michael zu kümmern. Auch über den Suizid-Versuch ihrer Enkelin Paris sprach Jackson. Das Mädchen habe versucht sich umzubringen, weil sie bei ihrem Vater sein wollte, berichtete sie emotional.
http://www.focus.de/kultur/vermischt...d_1048950.html

[geli2709]

The Jacksons vs. AEG Live — Zeugen der Jacksons, 37. Teil

21. Juli 2013

Seit Freitag ist Katherine Jackson, Michaels Mutter, im Zeugenstand. Ihre Aussage wird am Montag fortgesetzt und es wird angenommen, dass sie die letzte Zeugin der Jackson Seite sein wird. Anschliessend wird AEG Live seine Zeugen aufrufen. AEG Anwalt Putnam liess diese Woche verlauten, dass sie 30 Prozesstage dafür beanspruchen werden. Dh. der Prozess wird definitiv nicht Anfang August beendet werden, wie ursprünglich angenommen, sondern kann sich nun noch bis Mitte September ziehen.

“Am schwierigsten ist es, hier im Gerichtssaal zu sitzen und all die schlechten Dinge über meinen Sohn zu hören”, so Katherine. “Zahlreiche Fakten, die hier erzählt wurden, entsprechen nicht der Wahrheit”, sagte Katherine. Zum Beispiel stimme es nicht, dass Michael faul war, wie in einer E-Mail von AEG bezüglich Michaels Konzertvorbereitungen stand. Vor allem aber beanstandete Katherine eine E-Mail vom Leiter der Rechtsabteilung von AEG Lives Muttergesellschaft, in der dieser Michael “Freak” nannte.

“[Michael] ist nicht hier, um für sich selbst zu sprechen”, aber sie werde ihr Bestes tun, um dies für ihn zu tun. Als die Jackson Anwälte Katherine befragten und den Geschworenen ein Video von klein Michael gezeigt wurde, in dem er performte, hörten die Geschworenen aufmerksam zu.

“Wieso sind Sie hier”, fragte Brian Panish seine Zeugin. “Weil ich wissen will, was meinem Sohn wirklich zugestossen ist. Deshalb bin ich hier”, so Katherine. Wie sie sich gefühlt hatte, als sie bei der eidesstattlichen Zeugeneinvernahme vor Prozessbeginn während 12 Stunden AEG Anwalt Putnams persönliche und bohrende Fragen hatte beantworten müssen, fragte Panish. “Ich fühlte mich schlecht dabei, denn mein Sohn war ein sehr guter Mensch. Er liebte alle, er spendete für wohltätige Zwecke, er war im Guiness Book of World Records für seine Spenden”, so Katherine.

Marvin Putnam musste sich der Herausforderung stellen, bei seinem Kreuzverhör von Katherine nicht unfreundlich zu erscheinen, jedoch gleichzeitig für seine Seite ihre Zeugenaussage zu diskreditieren. Als er Katherine fragen wollte, warum sie Kenny Ortega anfangs auf der Zeugenliste für die Jacksons hatte, dann aber strich, unterbrach ihn Katherine, dass er dies vergessen solle. Was solle er vergessen, fragte Putnam. Katherine Jackson blieb für ca. eine Minute ruhig und starrte Putnam an. Dieser fragte sie dann, ob es helfen würde, wenn er ihr seine Frage nochmals vorlesen liesse. Nein, das wäre nicht hilfreich, so Katherine. Die Richterin liess die Frage dann vom Gerichtsprotokoll streichen, da die Antwort privilegierte Gespräche mit ihren Anwälten betreffen würde.

Nach der Mittagspause nahm Katherine wieder Platz im Zeugenstand. Kurz nachdem AEG Anwalt Putnam sie weiter befragte, sagte sie jedoch der Richterin, dass sie müde sei. Die Geschworenen wurden entlassen und Katherine Jackson kann am Montagmorgen mit ihrer Aussage weiterfahren.

Putnam hatte bereits in seinem Eröffnungsplädoyer angekündigt, dass sie den Fall der Jacksons als “lächerlich” bezeichnen und “nun werden wir damit anfangen zu zeigen, was hier wirklich passiert ist”. Wie die AEG Seite bei ihrem Eröffnungsplädoyer bereits angekündigt haben, werden sie “einige hässliche Sachen” aufzeigen und Michael Jacksons “tiefste und dunkelste Geheimnisse” an den Tag bringen.

Auf die Frage von Richterin Palazuelos betreffend Putnams Pläne in Sachen Conrad Murray, antwortete dieser am Mittwoch, dass er nicht vorhabe, Murray in den Zeugenstand zu rufen — obwohl sie dies anfangs nicht ausgeschlossen hatten — es sei denn, dies sei notwenig. Conrad Murray, so sei erinnert, würde sich aber in dem Fall ziemlich sicher auf sein verfassungsrechtliches Aussageverweigerungsrecht berufen. Seine Anwältin hatte beiden Seiten vor Prozessbeginn ein entsprechendes Statement ihres Klienten mit diesem Inhalt abgegeben.

Zu guter Letzt sei noch erwähnt, dass es am Dienstag wieder eine Kollision der beiden Anwälte, Brian Panish und Marvin Putnam, gab. Beide sprachen im Gang in ca. 5m Abstand zu einander mit der Presse, als sie plötzlich verbal auf einander los gingen. Ein Gerichtsbeamter unterbrach die hitzige Auseinandersetzung. Am nächsten Morgen rief die Richterin die beiden ins Richterzimmer und legte fest, dass diese inskünftig im Gang nicht mehr mit den Journalisten sprechen dürfen.

Für diejenigen, die interessiert sind an Katherines Gesamtaussage vom Freitag siehe hier http://de.scribd.com/doc/154896211/J...herine-Jackson für das Protokoll. An dieser Stelle möchten wir auf einen Spendenaufruf von teammichaeljackson.com aufmerksam machen. Die Protokolle werden privat verfasst. Dh. es reist jeden Prozesstag jemand vor Ort und notiert sich alles. Die Seite hat Tausende von Hits — da der Prozess nicht via TV übertragen wird, ist dies die einzige Möglichkeit, alles zu erfahren und sich einen eigenen Eindruck abseits der Medien zu verschaffen. Ohne Spenden, so kündigte teammichaeljackson.com an, werden sie nur noch die nächste Woche im Stande sein, vom Prozess zu berichten. Wer regelmässig Nutzen vom Service von teammichaeljackson macht, sei gebeten deren Aufwand mit einem finanziellen Beitrag zu unterstützen.
Siehe hier http://teammichaeljackson.com/archives/9022 für weitere Infos.

Quellen: jackson.ch, cnn.com, teammichaeljackson.com

Weiterlesen unter http://www.jackson.ch/the-jacksons-v...ksons-37-teil/
Copyright © jackson.ch

[Lena]

Als er Katherine fragen wollte, warum sie Kenny Ortega anfangs auf der Zeugenliste für die Jacksons hatte, dann aber strich, unterbrach ihn Katherine, dass er dies vergessen solle. Was solle er vergessen, fragte Putnam. Katherine Jackson blieb für ca. eine Minute ruhig und starrte Putnam an. Dieser fragte sie dann, ob es helfen würde, wenn er ihr seine Frage nochmals vorlesen liesse. Nein, das wäre nicht hilfreich, so Katherine. Die Richterin liess die Frage dann vom Gerichtsprotokoll streichen, da die Antwort privilegierte Gespräche mit ihren Anwälten betreffen würde.

Ortega war auf der Zeugenliste der Jacksons und wurde nicht gestrichen. Putnam fragte danach ob K. Jackson ursprünglich auch Ortega verklagte und ihn dann von der Klage entfernte. Die Frage wurde auch nicht gestrichen, sondern die Anwälte stipulierten (beide Seiten erkennen als Tatsache an), dass K. Jackson Ortega von der Klage entfernte

ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 10m
The attorneys stipulated that Mrs. Jackson dropped the lawsuit against Kenny Ortega. Then there was lunch break.
Die Anwälte stipulierten das Mrs. Jackson K. Ortega von der Klage entfernte.
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 10m
Putnam asked if she sued Kenny Ortega as well. She said she doesn't' remember, there was a list of people in the suit.
Putnam fragte ob sie K. Ortega auch verklagte. Sie sagt das sie sich nicht erinnert, es gab so viele Leute in der Klage.



Kathrine heute weiter im Stand.

Von unten nach oben

ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 7m
Katherine Jackson on the stand. Session about to begin. We'll bring you all the details as soon as possible.
Öffnen
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 7m

Judge told attorneys none of the steps have been taken yet, which means it's probably very unlikely they'd be able to get Dr. Murray in.
Richterin sagt Anwälten das keiner der Schritte bis jetzt gemacht wurde was heißt das es sehr unwahrscheinlich sein wird Dr. Murray vorzuladen.
Öffnen
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 9m

Putnam responded on Friday he has no intention of calling him. Judge said there are several steps needed to bring an inmate to testify.
Putnam sagte Freitag das er keine Absicht hat ihn zu rufen. Richterin sagt es benötigt einiger Schritte eine Insassen als Zeuge vorzuladen.
Öffnen
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 10m

Judge Yvette Palazuelos asked AEG attorney Marvin Putnam again on Friday whether he intends to call Dr. Murray to testify.
Richterin fragte AEG-Anwalt Putnam am Freitag erneut ob er beabsichtigt Dr. Murray als Zeuge einzuberufen.
Öffnen
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 11m

@lozie49 Thank you! Exciting day in the UK!!!! We're all anxiously waiting for the Royal baby too!
Gespräch zeigen
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 12m

@_ValeJackson_ The latest estimate is mid-September. AEG attorney told judge he wants to conclude his case by the end of August.
Die letzte Schätzung ist Mitte September. AEG-Anwalt sagte dem Gericht das er seinen Fall Ende August beenden wird.
Gespräch zeigen
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 12m

@THENOTORIOUSSS Session was set to begin about 20 minutes ago. It has not yet started.
Gespräch zeigen
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 14m

They wanted to call Rwamba today, but they said she has a medical condition (lupus) that may prevent her from coming.
Sie wollten heute Grace einberufen, aber sie sagen sie habe ein medizin. Problem (Lupus), was verhindert hat das sie kommt.
Öffnen
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 15m

The only witnesses remaining for the Jacksons are Kenny Ortega (who needs to come back for cross) and nanny Grace Rwamba.
Die einzigen Zeugen, die für die Jacksons verbleiben sind K. Ortega (der im Cross zurückkommen wird) und Nanny Grace
Öffnen
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 15m

What are your thoughts so far about the trial?Jacksons' attorney, Brian Panish, said he's ending his case in chief.
Jackson-Anwalt Panish sagt das er heute seine Fallpräsentation beendet.

[rip.michael]

Jacksons vs AEG - Day 52 – July 19 2013 – Summary

Katherine Jackson Testimony


Jackson direct

She states her full name: Katherine Esther Jackson. She said her date of birth is May 4, 1930, which makes her 83 years old. She said she's a little hard time hearing. Mrs. Jackson said this is the first time she's testified in court and she is a little nervous. (ABC7)

Panish: Did you get a lot of sleep last night?
Mrs. Jackson: No (ABC7)

Mrs. Jackson testified she's a private person, she's always in the background of her children. (ABC7) "I leave the spotlight for my children," she said. (AP) "The most difficult thing is to seat there in this court and listen to all the bad things they say about my son," Mrs. Jackson explained. "They are not true," she said. "He's not here to speak for himself."(ABC7) "A lot of the things that have been said are not the truth," Katherine Jackson said. "He's not here to speak for himself" (AP) Panish asked if she was here to speak on his behalf. "I will do my best," she answered. (ABC7) “The most difficult thing is to sit here in this court and listen to all the bad things they say about my son,” she said, later adding. “A lot of the things that have been said are not the truth. And he’s not here to speak for himself.” “Are you here to speak for your son Michael?” Panish asked.“I’ll try my best,” she replied. (LAtimes) "The most difficult thing is to sit here in this court and listen to all the bad things they've said about my son," she said in her soft, barely audible voice. "None of the things are the truth." (NYDailyNews)

"I want to know what really happened to my son and that's why I am here," Mrs. Jackson said. (ABC7)

Panish: How does he make you feel that they said they were going to say you son was a bad person?
Mrs Jackson: My son was a very good person. He gave to charity, is on the record for giving to charity. I'm so nervous, I'm so sorry. (ABC7)

"I know my son was a very good person," she said. "He loved everybody. He was in the Guinness Book of World Records for the entertainer who gave the most to charity.” (People)

Katherine Jackson She was born in Alabama. Her father’s name was Prince and she described his singing talents. Mrs. Jackson explained that when MJ named his son Prince, it wasn’t a King of Pop reference. It was a family name. (AP)

Mrs. Jackson said MJ named his son Prince because of her family. "He loved my father," she said.
Panish: When you learned MJ was going to name his son Prince, were you happy?
Mrs. Jackson: Very! (ABC7)

Mrs. Jackson testified the musical talent came from her grandfather on her mother's side, Columbus Brown. She said her mother would open the windows and his song rang over the valley. "My father taught us to play the guitar," Mrs. Jackson said. Her sister played the cello. "We always had music around the house." Mrs. Jackson said she had polio as a child, Infantile Poliomyelitis. "I wore a brace on left leg from age 7 to 9," she said. "I was shy." Mrs. Jackson said Michael loved all children, especially those who had something wrong with them: orphans, hospitals for disable children. Michael would spend the day with Make a Wish foundation. (ABC7)

Mrs. Jackson married Joseph Jackson when she was 19 and he was 21. They lived in Gary, Indiana. They bought a house on Jackson Street. "It was a coincidence," she said. It looked like a garage in a way. It was a 4 room, 2 bedroom house. She raised 9 children: Rebbie , Jackie, Tito , Jermaine, LaToya, Marlon, Michael, Randy and Janet. Mrs. Jackson said they had bunk beds. Jackie was the oldest, he got his own bunk. Randy was baby, slept in Katherine and Joe's room. Mrs. Jackson said that sometimes she would wake up to them harmonizing singing. Joe worked in a steel mill, was sometimes laid off 2-4 weeks She took a job, between Randy and Janet, since there was a 5 year gap. She was a clerk at Sears and Roebuck. (ABC7)

Panish: Did you always have a lot of money?
Mrs. Jackson: No, not at all
Mrs. Jackson: I made a lot of clothes, watch the newspaper, bought a lot of things on sale, went down to Salvation Army to get shoes. (ABC7)

"I had to live payday to payday," Mrs. Jackson explained. "The money was scarce, we had to eat." She said they didn't want to go on welfare. "We picked vegetables, fruits, keep in the freezer and that's how we survived."
Panish: Are you a good cook?
Mrs. Jackson: The kids think so
"I know how to prepare a potato every way you can think of," Mrs. Jackson said. (ABC7)

She said she enjoyed having a large family and lived in a cul de sac near little league field. Jackie and Tito played baseball. Michael would spend his money with candy and cookie, Mrs. Jackson said. He would set up a store to sell them. (ABC7) Panish also showed a photo of the Jackson’s home in Gary, Ind. & pics of Jermaine and Tito on their Little League team, the Katz Kittens. The team was named after the mayor at the time, who sponsored the team, Katherine Jackson said. The mayor was in the photo, next to her sons. She said Michael Jackson would save money to buy candy at the Little League field. But he didn't eat it all. Instead, she said Michael Jackson would the candy and play “Store Man,” a game in which he was merchant. (AP)

The pop star’s mother spent much of the morning talking about raising her nine children with husband Joe in a four-room house in Gary, Ind. Money was tight, she said, particularly when her husband couldn’t find work at the steel mill. Katherine Jackson recalled making her children’s clothes, cutting coupons from newspapers — even picking vegetables she would preserve. Katherine Jackson said that both she and her husband came from musical families and that their talents were passed on to their children. She recalled going to sleep at night — she and Joe in one of the bedrooms, her sons sharing a triple bunk-bed in the other — and waking up to the children “harmonizing and singing.” (LATimes) She described moving the family to Gary Ind. after marrying Joe Jackson. They moved into a home on Jackson street, a coincidence. She also described the family’s hardscrabble years as they struggled to scrape by. “I picked vegetables, I canned food,” Mrs. Jackson said. She said every year she’d buy ¼ or ½ a cow for food. “That’s how we would survive.” (AP)

"I was always close to God," Mrs. Jackson said. "II raised my children the best I can with spiritual guidance." She was raised Baptist, then became Lutheran and wasn't satisfied with that. When old enough to understand started searching. "I searched and found the true religion: Jehovah Witness," Mrs. Jackson testified. Jevohah's witnesses don't celebrate birthdays or other dates. They celebrate one day, that's Jesus last supper. Some became Witnesses, Michael, Rebbie and LaToya. The others are not. Her husband wasn't a witness, so they didn't stop holidays right away.(ABC7)

Picture of Katherine Jackson during her high school years. "Oh my God, that's me," a shy Mrs. Jackson said. (ABC7)

Michael was born Aug 29, 1958. As to this photo: "It shows my sweet little boy to me," Mrs. Jackson said. (ABC7) Panish showed a photo of Michael as a toddler, smiling at the camera. He asked what it showed. “It shows him as a sweet little boy to me,” Katherine Jackson said. “My baby.” (LATimes)

Michael was always sensitive and loving, Mrs. Jackson said. One day, when his brother was sick, Michael was holding his hand and cried.(ABC7) Michael didn’t let the fame go to his head, she said. Katherine Jackson told stories earlier in the morning of her son as a child, crying because one of his other brothers was sick. “Michael has always been sensitive and loving,” she said. (LATimes)

Panish asked when MJ showed he loved music. "He was born dancing," Mrs. Jackson said. "He was in my arms and couldn't be still, was dancing". Mrs. Jackson told a story when she had a Maytag with roller that squeezes water out. It was old and rusty and it would make a squeaky noise. MJ would be dancing to the squeaking noise. "He was dancing and sucking in bottles," Mrs. Jackson said. (ABC7) Michael, she said, “was born that way.” “When all the kids were dancing around, he was in my arms and he couldn’t be still. He was dancing to the music,” she said. “And when he started to talk, he would still dance.”Her washing machine, she said, used to rattle to a rhythm. She recalled finding her seventh children standing next to the machine, “dancing, sucking on the bottle, to the squeaking of the washer.” The jury laughed. “He just loved music,” Katherine Jackson said. “He loved to dance.” (LATimes)

The children loved the Temptations and imitated them all the time, Mrs. Jackson said. Panish asked if they had television in the house. Mrs. Jackson: We had an old TV, TV would break, had a TV man take it away and sometimes didn't have money to get it back. (ABC7)
The children would sing and dance, she said. "We always had music in the house." They were very young, they danced and sang. Michael was 5 years old, they went on to contests at school, then professional. There was not a lot to do in Gary, Mrs. Jackson said. So the high school had events and the boys would win every time there was a contest. Michael won every contest. When the other kids knew the Jacksons were coming they were Oh my God!, Mrs. Jackson said. Originally, the name was Jackson Brothers Five, but the name was too long, so they cut it short to Jackson 5. Mrs. Jackson: Michael was 5 and the sang Climb Every Mountain. He started singing, my father and I cried like a baby. (ABC7) Katherine Jackson said she and her children would listen to country music — something her father played when she was a girl — and her older sons began singing in competitions at local high schools. Michael was about 5, she said, when he sang at his own school program. She said she went to the school with her father-in-law to watch her son sing “Climb Ev'ry Mountain.” “I was so nervous when he walked out on the stage because he was always shy,” she said. “And he started singing the song and he sang it with such clarity. … Joe’s father sat there and cried like a baby. He looked around, and I was crying too.”“He got a standing ovation for his performance, and he wasn’t nervous, and I was shocked,” she continued, saying she thought he “felt more at home when he was on stage.” (LATimes)

Panish: How did that make you feel?
Mrs. Jackson: I cried (ABC7)

Michael joined his brothers’ group soon after, she said, and the boys would rehearse at home, pushing the furniture back toward the walls of the living room and dancing in the middle of the floor. They kept singing at local contests, only losing once, she said with a chuckle. “I think they were sick of seeing the Jacksons win,” she said. (LATimes) Jackson 5 lost a contest once to a boy who lived next door and won that year. The boys rehearsed at the house. "We saved money to buy amplifiers," Mrs. Jackson said. Mrs. Jackson said she made the suits. She said they were called "Homemade suits" (the jury laughed). (ABC7) Panish showed videos and photos of the Jackson 5, featuring a young Michael smiling as he sang and danced with his brothers. The attorney asked Katherine Jackson what type of suits her son wore in one black-and-white photo. “Homemade suits,” she responded, drawing laughter. (LATimes)

Mrs. Jackson: When Gladys Knight and Temptations would ask for us to be on stage with them and they got paid that way. They signed with Motown in 1968. The boys moved first to California, Katherine came four months later. "I had always wanted to live in California," Mrs. Jackson explained, since Gary, Indiana was so cold and snowed. Jackson 5 started making records when they signed with Motown. The first 4 singles became number one records, Mrs. Jackson recalled. Mrs. Jackson explained the Jacksonmania that happened at this time. Shes said there was so many girls around the house she got tired of it. "They'd come and stay all day and sometimes they stayed so late I had to drive them home," Mrs. Jackson remembered. Panish showed video of their early life in Gary, Indiana, dancing at 5, Motown, audition, ABC song, TV show, Motown 25. (ABC7) The boys’ careers took off – they singed a record deal with Motown in 1968 -- and Katherine Jackson talked about moving to California with her family. Girls swarmed their home, she said. “I got so tired of it,” she laughed. (LATimes)

Panish: As mother, when you saw MJ perform like that, how did you feel?
Mrs. Jackson: I felt very proud (ABC7)

Special performances surprised Mrs. Jackson. When he was 14 he sang solo in the Academy Awards shows. "I was very proud of him," she said.
Panish: Were you nervous about it?
Mrs. Jackson: I was a little bit, but he did well (ABC7)

Mrs. Jackson said MJ liked rats. One time they went to Beverly Hills to have dinner and he kept putting crumbs in his pocket to feed the rat. Michael didn't like dogs, Mrs. Jackson said. She recalls one day of a dog bite and Michael been afraid ever since. Despite that, Michael got a chocolate Labrador for the children, named Kenya. They had a turkey, a parrot, ferrets, mice, cats. (ABC7) Katherine Jackson also related why her son disliked dogs. She said it was because one badly bit his brother Randy when they were children. It was a friend’s pit bull that they were watching, and the dog bit off a chunk of Randy’s arm, Katherine Jackson said. (AP)

Michael was a very good artist, Mrs. Jackson said. He did a lot of art in school and some of this pictures have been sold. He'd write songs. Katherine said Michael didn't seat and watch TV. She said it's very hard for her to seat and watch them talking about Michael being lazy. "My son was not lazy," Mrs. Jackson said. "That is the biggest lie around." (ABC7) On the witness stand, she said an email written by Paul Gongaware, a top AEG Live executive, that described her son as lazy was especially hurtful."My son is not lazy. You don't get to be the biggest," she said, pausing, "by being lazy." (AP) Panish asked Katherine Jackson whether her son sat around and watched TV. No, she said. “My son is not lazy,” Katherine Jackson said. “You don’t get to be the biggest” _ she paused for several seconds _ “by being lazy.” She told the jury that her son liked art and that some of his drawings had been sold. She mentioned his songwriting as well. (AP)

Katherine Jackson said her grandson Prince is a better student than Michael was, though. Panish played a clip from “The Wiz.” (AP). MJ was a straight A student. He liked movies, Katherine named a few: The Wiz, Sidney, 12 Angry Men. Panish show snippet of The Wiz. Jurors were highly entertained at this point. Some smiled, some pursed their lips as if they were trying not to smile. Katherine said Michael and Quincy Jones got along very well, worked together in various projects: Thriller, Bad, Off the Wall.(ABC7)

Panish then asked her about MJ’s practice of writing notes. He “wrote notes to himself all the time,” she said. Michael Jackson would write notes about how many records he wanted to sell from each album. She said his notes would come true. (AP)

Panish: When Michael was 21, did he write down what his goals were?
Mrs. Jackson: Yes, Michael wrote notes to himself (ABC7)

She said he'd write where he wanted to be at certain time, how he wanted an album to sell. He was still living at home in Hayvenhurst. He wanted to be known as MJ, not little Michael or little Jackson, Mrs. Jackson explained. (ABC7)

Panish showed video of the first time MJ did the Moonwalk (Billie Jean song). Jurors smiled. He used to practice all the time, Mrs.
Jackson said. He has a room over the garage where he danced two hours straight without stopping. The sequined silver jacket MJ was using in Billie Jean was Katherine's. He went into her closet, got it before the show, never gave it back. (ABC7)

She mentioned that Michael lived at the family home at Hayvenhust until he was 30 years. He practiced dancing in a room above the garage. Panish asked whether success got to her son’s head. “No,” she replied. “Michael was the most humble person around.” She discussed her son remodeling Hayvenhurst for her, and taking family photos and blowing them up to hang in his dance rehearsal space. Mrs. Jackson said he surprised her by fixing up that room in that way. He also put up a plaque with a poem to his mom that's still there. (AP)

MJ continued to live with Mrs. Jackson until her was 30. "When he became 18, he wanted to buy me a house," she testified. But by that time houses had gone up to millions of dollars, so he decided to rebuild the house. "The way you see Hayvenhurst is the way he rebuilt it," Mrs. Jackson said. He had a room upstairs he didn't want anyone to go in. He then got all the pictures and put them on the wall instead of wallpaper. He said 'here's your surprise,' she said. Panish showed video of the room. "He gave this to me," Mrs. Jackson said. Even the ceiling has pictures. "Everything is covered." (ABC7)

She recounted a couple incidents in which her son Michael disguised himself and she didn’t realize it was him. One time was on the set of his short film “Ghost.” She visited the set and was greeted by a white man. It was MJ, in makeup. He also wore a disguise when they went out to speak to people about being Jehovah’s Witnesses, Katherine Jackson said. Katherine Jackson said she didn’t recognize him until he said, “It’s me mother.” They then went out and knocked on people’s doors. Panish: “Did he get the door slammed in his face?”
Katherine Jackson: “Lots of times. They never knew who it was.” (AP)

Panish: Did MJ like music videos?
Mrs. Jackson: Oh yes. They were like short movies, Thriller. He invited me down while doing movie "Ghost."
Mrs. Jackson: I was seating at the set, a white male man came to me and I said I'm here to see my son. He said 'mom, it's me!' (ABC7)

Michael was involved in the Jehovah Witness for a while, did "filed service." He had to disguise himself, wore a fat suit.(ABC7)

In 1988, Michael purchased Neverland. Panish showed video of it, the animals, roller coast, poem written by Michael, movie theater. "He finally got a candy store," Mrs. Jackson said. Mrs. Jackson said Michael made the ranch available to people. He opened it to disable children, would invite classes of children. In the movie theater, Katherine said they had special chair for sick children who couldn't seat in regular seats. (ABC7) After this, Panish showed a clip of Neverland Ranch, complete with music that played at the property. The video showed the rides, zoo. It also featured the candy stand. Mrs. Jackson said that her son finally had his candy stand, an allusion to his childhood game. The Neverland video also showed the train station, which Michael Jackson named Katherine in honor of his mother. (AP)

Panish: Did it have a train station?
Katherine: Yes
P: What is it called?
Mrs. J.: Katherine (ABC7)

Katherine said the children loved Neverland. They were homeschooled. The kids would go to Chuck & Cheese and other kids would ask do you have animals? They would say elephant, giraffes, Mrs. Jackson recalled. One lady once told Grace 'don't they have great imaginations,' she said. (ABC7) Mrs. Jackson said her grandchildren loved Neverland. Strangers didn’t believe them when they said they had giraffes and elephants as pets. (AP)

The questioning then turned to darker issues, with Panish asking Mrs. Jackson about her son’s pain and medical conditions. She mentioned that Michael Jackson’s scalp had been burned, he had back pain. She also mentioned his Vitiligo. She said her son trusted his doctors and mentioned Dr. Allan Metzger was one of his primary care physicians. (AP)

Mrs. Jackson said Michael had been burned, badly burned, and was in a lot of pain. He had a balloon under the scalp. Mrs. Jackson: He took that money from Pepsi settlement and donated it to the children's burn center. He had back injury too, she said. He had vitiligo, a disease that turns the skin white. "He just wanted to get it over with" she explained. He didn't talk much about his insomnia, Mrs. Jackson said. He couldn't sleep at all at night when he was at home. (ABC7)

Panish: Did you ever see Michael abuse drugs or medications?
Mrs. Jackson: No, I never saw
Mrs. Jackson: I know he was taking pain medications. Many times I went to his room unannounced and I never saw him that way. (ABC7)

Panish asked whether she ever saw her son abuse medications. She said she didn’t, but she heard about it from her other children. Mrs. Jackson said she knew he was taking pain pills. She said she dropped in on him unannounced and never saw any signs of misuse. She said she went to his house one time because her children were pushing for an intervention. She didn’t want to go, she said. “When we went out there, Michael was fine,” Katherine Jackson said. She said she could never prove that he had a problem. She mentioned speaking to him again about it when he was living in Las Vegas. “He promised, he kept saying, ‘I’m OK,’” Mrs. Jackson said. (AP)

She said she tried an intervention because she heard from the other kids but didn't think he was abusing drugs. The other children told her it would mean much more if she went. "When we got there, Michael was fine," Mrs. Jackson said. (ABC7) Katherine Jackson also told the jury she had heard from her other children about concerns that Michael Jackson was abusing prescription medications, but he seemed fine when they tried to intervene. (AP) She went to MJ's Las Vegas home and talked to him about drug abuse. Michael said "Mom, I'm okay, I'm okay." Mrs. Jackson: Sometimes a mother is the last to know... and sometimes you are embarrassed. (ABC7) She said she also heard from her other children that Michael Jackson was abusing prescription medication, but she didn't know what to believe. She said she visited him in Las Vegas a few years ago to ask him about it. "He promised, he kept saying, 'I'm OK,'" she told the jury. "Sometimes the mothers are the last to know," she said. She said she told her son, "I don't want to hear on the news that you're not here anymore." Katherine Jackson did not say when the meeting with her son occurred. (AP)

Panish asked Mrs. Jackson about seeing her son at a party in May 2009. It was billed as a 60th anniversary party for her and Joe Jackson. It wasn’t actually their anniversary, she said. “I think Janet just named it that so we could have a party,” she said. She said she didn’t notice that her son was especially thin, but added that he was wearing a jacket at the party. (AP) Katherine Jackson's 60th anniversary in May 2009. Mrs. Jackson: At time time to me Michael looked ok. Later, I saw he was thin, he was dressed in jacket and all, I didn't notice he was thin. (ABC7) "Then I saw he was thinner. I didn't notice at first because of how he was dressed. He had a jacket on," she said. (Reuters)

"Michael and I were very close," Mrs. Jackson said. He was the son -- a mother wouldn't want a better son than Michael. He was very shy." (ABC7)

Poem Michael wrote to his mother.
Panish: How did that make you feel?
Mrs. Jackson: It made me cry for one thing... I felt very loved.
"Mother, My Guardian Angel" -- by Michael Jackson
Panish: When you received that, how did it make you feel?
Mrs. Jackson: I cried (ABC7)

He then asked whether she was financially dependent on her son. “Michael took care of me, my every need, my every want,” she said. “He gave me everything,” she said. Panish asked about gifts. Cars, jewelry and a mobile home were mentioned as MJ's gifts to his mom. (AP)

Panish: Did he give you gifts?
Mrs Jackson: All the time. He gave me everything, the necessities of life, gifts, cars, jewelry, mobile homes (ABC7)
Panish: Did he give you money?
Mrs. Jackson: Yes, cash. Michael never wrote checks (ABC7)

Panish then asked Mrs. Jackson about losing her son and she started to break down. “That’s the worst thing that can happen to a person.” Katherine Jackson looked pained as she described her son as humble. Panish asked if she was OK. She said yes. (AP)

As to how she's affect by the loss of love, support: Mrs. Jackson: No one knows until it happened to someone. Mrs. Jackson: That's
the worse thing that could happen. When I lost Michael I lost everything. He was the most loving, very, very humble. "When a mother loses a child," Mrs. Jackson said crying "that's the worse than can happen to a person." Mrs. Jackson said she lost the best thing ever as she wiped out tears. (ABC7)

Katherine Jackson wept on the witness stand Friday as she described her relationship with her son Michael, saying that when he died, she “lost everything.” The 83-year-old matriarch said she and her seventh child were “very close,” saying “a mother wouldn’t want a better son than Michael.” He took care of her “every need, my every way,” Katherine Jackson said, for example by remodeling her Hayvenhurst home, covering the walls of a room with enlarged pictures of their family. He also wrote her poetry, she said. After Michael Jackson died, his older brother Jermaine found another handwritten poem to his mother and had it framed. Katherine Jackson said she cried when she read the words. “All my success has been based on the fact that I wanted to make Mother proud,” the poem ends. “To win her smile of approval.” When attorney Brian Panish asked how she had been affected by her son’s death, Katherine Jackson broke down. “When a mother loses a child,” she said, crying. “No one knows until it happens to them. That’s the worst thing that could happen to a person, losing a child. “I lost my mother, my father and my sister … but when I lost Michael, I lost everything,” she said. (LATimes)

He moved on, asking her about a deposition clip that was played in which she described her son saying he didn’t want to be on stage at 50. She said she thought it was funny, but it was just a joke. She said 50 isn’t that old, and you necessarily don’t feel old at 50. It was then that Panish asked Mrs. Jackson about whether her son could perform the 50 scheduled “This Is It” shows. Katherine Jackson: “He couldn’t do every other night like AEG wanted him to do at first.” She said she called AEG Live CEO Randy Phillips and Tohme Tohme and told them he couldn’t do the shows the way they had them scheduled. (AP) She said she heard about the This Is It tour through Grace Rwamba. She said he was joking when he said he didn't want to do the Moonwalk at age 50. "He used to think that 50 was really old.” Mrs. Jackson said she didn't think her son could do 50 shows every other night as was planned. She called Randy Phillips and Dr. Tohme. (ABC7) Katherine Jackson said she called the CEO of promoter AEG Live LLC to express her view that her son could have done 50 shows, but not if they were spaced closely together. "He couldn't do every other night like AEG wanted him to do at first," Katherine Jackson said. She said she called AEG Live CEO Randy Phillips and her son's manager, Tohme Tohme, to express her concerns about the "This Is It" schedule.. (AP)

Panish asked whether Katherine Jackson ever visited the Carrolwood Drive mansion. She said yes, and she went into his bedroom. “Every time I went there, I went into his bedroom,” she said. She said she and her nephew Trent would watch movies with Michael Jackson in his bedroom at the Carrolwood mansion. (AP)

Michael’s then doctor, Conrad Murray was “pacing the floor,” in the hospital, and Katherine testified she had never seen him before. (Radar) Mrs. Jackson didn't know who Conrad Murray was until after MJ died. She didn't know MJ had died when she arrived at the hospital. She said she had been out on field service and she said one of the fans said they brought someone out on a gurney completely covered up. "Later on I got a call to go to the hospital, I thought he was just sick," Mrs. Jackson said. Mrs. Jackson said she saw many people who worked with Michael at the hospital, like Frank DiLeo. Dr. Murray was pacing back and forth. Mrs. Jackson: Nobody wanted to tell me, I was seating and waiting, I guess they were back debating. "Michael had a reaction," they told Mrs Jackson. "I said how is he? Did he make it? Did he make it? And Frank said no," she recalled, crying. (ABC7) She broke down as she described the day her son died. She said she was told by another of her son's managers, Frank Dileo. "I just started screaming," she said, crying and clutching a tissue in one of her hands (AP)

Katherine Jackson, a Jehovah’s witness, said she was out in “field service” — going door to door to share her faith — and returned home to a message from her husband on that June 2009 day. One of the fans who had gathered outside Michael Jackson’s Neverland Ranch had called Joe Jackson, saying someone had left on a gurney “completely covered up,” she testified. “Later on I got a call to come to the hospital, so I thought maybe he was just sick,” she said. Katherine Jackson said she arrived to find Jackson’s staff and a man she later learned was “packing back and forth.” Someone took her to a room where she waited, she said, until her son’s manager approached. “Frank DiLeo came and told me that Michael had a reaction, and I said, ‘Well how is he?’ ” she said. “And nobody said anything.” “I said, ‘Did he make it? Did he make it?’ and Frank said no,” she said, her voice breaking. Katherine Jackson continued to cry on the stand as she described her reaction. “I just started screaming.” Jackson said she was then taken to another room, where she was attended to by nurses and later met with her grandchildren. Paris Jackson, she said, was particularly emotional. “She was screaming, looking up at the sky and said, ‘Daddy, I want to go with you.' ” Katherine Jackson said. When it came time to leave the hospital, the family matriarch said, her granddaughter turned to her.“Grandma, where are we going?” she recalled Paris asking. “And I said, ‘You’re going home with Grandma.” (LATimes)

Mrs. Jackson didn't see the children until later. "I was crying so hard," she said. "Paris was saying 'dad I want to do with you (crying), I can't live without you' that's what she kept saying." Mrs. Jackson: They were there hugging and saying 'Daddy, I love you!' "I never went down to the morgue, never wanted to see Michael like that," Mrs. Jackson testified, crying. When they left, Paris said 'grandma, where are we going?' Mrs. Jackson told her 'you are going home with grandma.' (ABC7) Katherine Jackson said her granddaughter Paris Jackson was inconsolable at the hospital and was looking skyward saying, "'I can't live without you'" and "'I'm going with you.'" (AP)
Panish asked about the adjustment without their father. She said the two boys I can say fine. Paris is having the hardest time. Paris had 5 big pictures of Michael in her room and Mrs. Jackson said she wondered how she could do that, she saw them and felt so sad. Paris' whole room is a collage of picture just like MJ had, Mrs. Jackson said. Mrs. Jackson said Paris was looking for a special heart. She found a broken heart, hung one part in Michael's neck and she put on the other. Prince is affected by not spending time with his father, Mrs. Jackson said. Paris took MJ's pajama top, didn't want anyone to wash it. She sat it on her bed. Panish asked how Paris is affected. "Oh My God! She wanted to go where daddy was," Mrs. Jackson said. Blanket doesn't want to cut his hair. Daddy loved his hair, so he doesn't want to cut it. (ABC7) Paris, 15, has had the hardest time dealing with her father’s death, compared to siblings, Prince Michael, and Blanket. Jackson’s only daughter, has a pair of her father’s pajamas, and never wants them washed because “she wanted his scent,” Katherine told jurors. (Radar) Wiping her face with a tissue, Katherine said the adjustment has been hard for Paris, who put photos of her father all over her room. "I thought she was the bravest. She had a very hard time at first." (NBC)

“My nephew and I and Paris and her brothers … went everywhere trying to find this special heart, and it was a broken heart,” Katherine Jackson said. “When she got it, she went to the morgue and she hung one heart around her father’s neck.” Paris kept the other half, her grandmother said. Paris also kept a pajama shirt of her father’s, Katherine Jackson said, putting it on a pillow on her bed. She hung photos of him in her bedroom, later covering a wall with more pictures. “I was wondering how could she do that because I didn’t want to see him,” Katherine Jackson said. “Every time I saw him I felt so sad.” Katherine Jackson acknowledged that Paris had received medical help following her father’s death, including a hospital stint. The girl has said “that she wanted to go where Daddy was,” she testified. Though her grandsons are more subdued, Katherine Jackson said, they also miss their father. The youngest, Blanket, keeps his hair long -- he “doesn’t want to cut it because that’s the way Michael liked it,” she said. Katherine Jackson said her son changed after his children were born, describing his songs “more loving, more meaningful.” “It just changed his life,” she said of fatherhood. (LATimes)

Panish showed a picture of Blanket with long hair. Mrs. Jackson said he doesn’t want to cut it because that’s the way his dad liked it. Katherine Jackson: “He’s 11 but he’s going to cut it sooner or later,” she said. (AP)

"Michael was one of the best fathers," Mrs. Jackson said. "You'd be surprised what a good father he was." Mrs. Jackson said MJ's writing changed, he was more loving and meaningful, he wrote from his heart more. "Words could not describe the love for his children," Mrs. Jackson described. (ABC7)

Panish: Mrs. Jackson, do you miss your son?
Mrs. Jackson: Words can't explain (ABC7)

Recounting the day Michael died, Katherine became extremely emotional. “Do you miss your son?” Jackson’s attorney Brian Panish asked. Choking back tears, Katherine said: “There are no words.” (Radar)


AEG cross

On cross examination, Katherine admitted it was her choice alone to bring this lawsuit against AEG. She said it was hard sitting in court "listening to people call her son a freak ... it hurts to sit in court and hear all these things. It’s hard for me listening to how sick my son was. (NBC)

Putnam asked if Katherine saw all the exhibits that were going to bed shown in court today. She said yes. (ABC7)

Putnam: You initiated this lawsuit against AEG Live?
Mrs. Jackson: Yes (ABC7)

She doesn't remember when it was filed, brought it on her behalf and the children. It was her choice to bring this lawsuit. She never talked to MJ's children about it, discussed with her children after, but not with Joe. (ABC7) He asked Mrs. Jackson about dates of the suit, Conrad Murray trial. She didn't recall them. (AP)

Putnam only had a few minutes, and he asked Katherine Jackson about who she consulted with before filing her lawsuit.
She said she didn't consult with her children before filing the case.
Putnam: "This was your descision alone?" "Yes," Mrs. Jackson replied.
Katherine Jackson said she didn't discuss it with her grandchildren either. Or Joe Jackson, _ she told jurors he doesn't live with her. (AP)

Putnam asked her about her decision to sue AEG Live in September 2010. She said she didn't discuss with her children or her grandchildren before filing the lawsuit. "This was your decision alone," Putnam asked. She said it was. (AP)

Putnam asked her that despite being very private person she brought on this lawsuit and has lived a very public life for the past 40 years. "My family is famous, I was always on the background," Mrs. Jackson explained. Putnam asked her if she gave interviews to Dateline, 20/20, Oprah (after my son died). She said yes . "My life is as private as much as I can keep it private," she said. She said she was nervous being in front of people she doesn't know. (ABC7)

"I wanted to find out, I think I owe it to my son to find out what really happened to him," Mrs. Jackson said. "I heard stories and I heard from my grandson he was being pressured, that he was asking for his father, that Joe would know what to do." Mrs. Jackson: My son was sick and Kenny Ortega said nobody gave him a cup of tea. Nobody said call the doctor, let's see what's wrong w/ him. Mrs. Jackson: It hurts to seat here in court and hear how sick my son was and no one was trying to help him. (ABC7)

Mrs. Jackson said it was hard for her to be sitting here in the courtroom and listening people "call my son a freak, saying he is lazy." "This week I had to listen how broke his was, he didn't take a dime home," Mrs. Jackson said. "Why he didn't take a dime home? Because he was giving it to charity." (ABC7)

Putnam asked her about things that were said in the case that weren't true. She cited the Gongaware "lazy" email. Putnam asked whether Mrs. Jackson said heard Gongaware's explanation that her son didn't like to rehearse. She said no. Katherine Jackson said she closed her ears to some things said during the trial, including Gongaware's explanation of his "lazy" remark. She also mentioned that an AEG executive had called her son a "freak."
"It hurts to sit here and listen to all these things," she said.(AP)

Putnam said Gongaware explained lazy was because her son was late for rehearsal. “He was not lazy," Mrs. Jackson said. "Mr. Jackson was sick, he couldn't rehearse." Putnam: He didn't like 2 rehearse in prior tours. "Michael didn't have to rehearse a lot, he knew the moves, he helped create them" she said (ABC7) Putnam asked her about testimony by tour director Kenny Ortega earlier in the trial, who used the word "lazy" in the sense that Jackson was reluctant to rehearse. "He knew what he was doing. He didn't need that much rehearsing," she said, adding that, in June 2009, her son "was sick and couldn't rehearse." (AFP)

Putnam then asked: But the witnesses called were by your attorney, right? Mrs. Jackson responded yes.
Putnam asked about Dr. Murray: "My son needed another doctor, a real doctor," Mrs. Jackson said. Mrs. Jackson: The doctor was for his children but I didn't know who he was. Later I heard it was Dr. Murray. (ABC7) "My son was sick... and they knew he was sick, and nobody said 'call the doctor.'" she testified, adding that she didn't know who Murray was until after Jackson'w he was sick, and nobody said 'call the doctor.'" she testified, adding that she didn't know who Murrays death. "That doctor was for his children, I didn't know who it was," she said, adding: "My son needed another doctor." (AFP)

Under cross-examination from AEG attorney Marvin Putnam, she grew frustrated and confused and ultimately asked to stop shortly after a lunch break. She returns to the stand on Monday. When Putnam asked why she filed the lawsuit in 2010, she responded: "I want to find out what happened to my son." "My son was being pressured," she added. "He asked for his father. My son was sick. Nobody said 'Call the doctor. What's wrong with him?' Nobody said that."When Putnam said he did have a doctor, Jackson said: "My son needed another doctor, an outside doctor, not Dr. Murray." (Reuters)

"I want the truth on what happened," Katherine testified. Putnam asked what was untrue and bad things said in the trial. Mrs. Jackson said 'they called him freak, having a chance to meet the freak.' Putnam asked if this was sent by someone who is not a party to this lawsuit, sent to AEG Live. Mrs. Jackson: I don't remember who sent it, I know it is hard to seat here and listen to it. He's not a freak. "My son is dead, so anything about him said that is bad, it hurts," Mrs. Jackson explained. (ABC7) "It's hard for me sitting in court and listening to people call my son a freak, saying he was lazy," she said, staring intently at Putnam. "He was not a freak," she added. (AFP)

Putnam: It was very hard hearing all the bad things said about your son for the past 40 years?
Mrs. Jackson: Yes (ABC7)

Putnam questioned the fact that Mrs. Jackson's attorneys didn't deny the fact that her son had problems with drugs. "My son was on prescription drugs, that doesn't make it true about other drugs they said he was on," Mrs. Jackson said. (ABC7)

Putnam asked if she sued Kenny Ortega as well. She said she doesn't' remember, there was a list of people in the suit. The attorneys stipulated that Mrs. Jackson dropped the lawsuit against Kenny Ortega. Then there was lunch break. (ABC7)

Putnam asked Mrs. Jackson about suing Kenny Ortega. He asked her whether she was informed when he was dismissed from the case. She looked down and said she forgot whether she had been informed. Putnam asked other questions about Ortega, and Panish objected. Panish noted that they'd addressed the issue when Ortega was on the stand.
The judge sustained the objection. (AP)

"Forget it," she said as she stopped before answering Putnam's question about why she initially included, and later dropped show director Kenny Ortega as a defendant in her lawsuit.
"Forget what ma'am?" Putnam asked.
Jackson remained silent for about a minute, staring back at Putnam.
Would it help to reread the question, he asked.
"No, it wouldn't be helpful," Jackson answered curtly.
The judge finally ordered the question stricken from the record because the answer involved privileged discussions with her lawyers. (CNN)

Putnam: Bringing lawsuit, hadn't spoken with grandchildren or children before filing the suit?
Mrs. Jackson: Yes (ABC7)

Putnam asked if it was before or after the criminal trial of Dr. Murray. She said she did not remember. Mrs. Jackson was at the criminal trial almost every day. (ABC7)

Putnam: Is it fair to say the criminal trial didn't play in this lawsuit?
Panish: Objection, attorney/client privilege. (ABC7)

Putnam: Is there anything you thought about other than the discussion with your attorneys that you consider in deciding to bring lawsuit?
Mrs. Jackson: Before the Conrad Murray trial? I don't remember
There's no dispute as to the dates of Murray's criminal trial, Panish said. (ABC7)

Putnam asked if she provided any documents to her attorneys to give to them (defendants)?
Panish: Objection -- attorney-client privilege (ABC7)

Mrs. Jackson said "yes." Putnam understood she was answering yes to him. "I'm not saying yes for you," she responded. Everyone laughed. At this point, Mrs. Jackson spoke quietly to the judge and judge decided to end the day short, since she was too tired to continue. (ABC7) Questioning of Michael Jackson's mother has been suspended after a judge determined she needed a break for the weekend. Katherine Jackson testified for about 10 minutes in an afternoon session before Superior Court Judge Yvette Palazuelos questioned whether she could continue. (AP) Mrs. Jackson testified for about 10 mins before judge recessing for the weekend. The judge conferred with Mrs. Jackson after she had difficulty answering several questions from Putnam. (AP)

Zusammenfassung von Ivy, MJJC #55

__________________________________________

Zusammenfassungen der vorangegangenen gerichtstage:
Day 1 - 50
Day 51 - zeuge Dr. Emery Brown Video Deposition; zeuge Peter Formuzis

Exklusiv transcripts eröffnungsstatements u.a. (MJJC #1 ff.)
Zeugenaussage von Prince Michael Jackson Jr.; exklusiv transcripts von MJJC # 7
Deposition transcripts filed with the court.
Note : these are not the full depositions, they are only the portions played in the court.
Dr. Stuart Finkelstein Deposition video transcript
Dr. Earley Deposition video transcript
Tim Leiweke Deposition video transcript
Randy Phillips Deposition video transcript
Quelle Ivy, MJJC #50

[Lena]

Stelle mal die Tweets ein: Von unten nach oben, beginnend in Post 241

ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 1m
And that ended Day 53 of the trial. We hope to see you tomorrow for all the details of John Meglen's testimony. Have a great night everybody
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 2m
Plaintiffs want to bring Rwamba to testify before they rest their case. They still need to finish Ortega's testimony too.
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 2m
Outside the presence of jury, Panish said Deborah Chang spoke with Grace Rwamba's lawyer and he doesn't' know where she is.
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 3m
Meglen said the expense of the show production falls under the artist to pay. Judge adjourned until tomorrow at 9:45 am PT.
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 3m
Meglen said almost immediately Gongaware took the lead on the MJ's This Is It project, since he had prior experience with MJ.
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 4m
"He was very excited," Meglen said. "He was great, full of energy, seem taller, firm handshake, he was there, he was very, very excited."
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 4m
Meglen said MJ asked Gongaware about Brigitte, his girlfriend at the time. They wanted MJ to choose them for a comeback tour.
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 4m
MJ recognized Gongaware, Meglen said. He came out of the bedroom, "Whenever I see Paul Gongaware I know everything is going to be all right"
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 5m
The meeting was to let MJ know what AEG was about, Meglen said. Gongaware, Raymone Bain (MJ's manager), Lopez, MJ were present.
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 5m
Meglen said he next met MJ in 2007 with Peter Lopez, MJ's attorney at the time at the Wynn Hotel in Las Vegas.
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 5m
Bina asked if Wikipedia was wrong in saying the shows were sold out. "I don't use Wikipedia as source for my business," Meglen said.
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 6m
They both sold half house, he said, which is half of the tickets available. Meglen said they hid he empty seats so it wouldn't show.
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 6m
Meglen watched both shows and said it was great. Marcel Avram was the promoter.
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 6m
Meglen worked with MJ prior to "This Is It" once. He was a consultant to a firm in Japan that promoted two MJ shows in 1986 around Christmas
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 7m
When they created Concerts West, Meglen said their first tour was Andrea Bocelli. They promoted first tour of Mariah Carey.
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 7m
Meglen said he doesn't think being the number 1 is necessarily a good thing. He explained it is the difference between quality and quantity.
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 8m
Bina talked about rivalry between AEG Live and Live Nation.
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 8m
Meglen said he went to Veterinarian school initially. "I feel like I work with animals some times," he joked.
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 8m
Paul Gongaware is co-CEO of Concerts West with Meglen. He described his extensive background in the business.
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 8m
John Meglen is a concert promoter, works at AEG Live, he's the president and CEO of Concerts West.
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 9m
AEG's attorney Jessica Stebbins Bina did direct examination.
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 10m
AEG called their next witness, John Meglen.
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 10m
Judge told jury we are now moving to defendants' case, even though plaintiffs have not yet rested their case in chief.
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 11m
Mrs. Jackson: The CEO of AEG

Mrs. Jackson was then excused. She went home for the rest of the day to rest.
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 11m
In re-re-re-direct, Panish asked: Who do you think it's in a better position to know who hired the doctor, you or the CEO of AEG?
Im re-re-re-direct Panish fragt: Wer denken Sie ist in der besseren Postition zu wissen wer den Arzt anstellte, Sie oder CEO oder AEG?
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 12m
Putnam said one of them was not right in their interview. Mrs. Jackson answered: "I'm not correct."
Putnam sagt eines von beiden ist nicht richtig in ihrem IV: Mrs. Jackson antwortet: "Ich bin nicht korrekt."
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 12m
Mrs. Jackson: Like I said, I didn't know who hired him at that time.
Mrs. Jackson: Wie ich sagte, ich wusste damals nicht wer ihn anstellte.
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 12m
In re-re-cross, Putnam inquired Phillips said 'we hired him' and Mrs. Jackson said 'Michael' hired him.
Im Re-Re-Cross Putman sagt Phillips sagt wir heuerten ihn und Mrs Jackson sagt Michael heuerte ihn
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 13m
Mrs. Jackson: No, not at all. The children knew her, they wanted her, that's why.
Nein, Die Kinder kannten sie, wollten sie.
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 13m
Mrs. Jackson: Kai Chase has been working for me not quite a year yet
Kai Chase arbeitet seit 1 Jahr für mich nun

Panish: Did you hire Kai Chase so she would testify in your favor?
Panish: Heurten Sie Kai Chase damit sie zu Ihren Gunsten aussagt?
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 14m
Panish: There was a suggestion in this trial you hired Kai Chase back so she can testify in your favor?
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 14m
Panish showed video of Phillips saying they hired him.
Panish zeigt Vide Phillips sagend das sie ihn heuerten.

Panish: Did Sister Rose discuss with you about AEG pressuring MJ?
Mrs. Jackson: Yes
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 14m
Regarding the interview, Mrs. Jackson said she just assumed, she didn't know whether MJ had hired Dr. Murray.
Bzgl. des Interviews. sagt sie, sie nahm nur an, dass er ihn heuerte, sie wusste nicht ob es MJ war der Dr. Murray heuerte.
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 14m
She's a Jehovah's Witness and there's a difference between her religion and the Nation of Islam.
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 15m
In re-re-direct, Panish asked: They still didn't send a card, did they?
Mrs. Jackson: No. Thousands and thousands of people sent her card.
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 16m
Mrs. Jackson said AEG told her if she did the memorial service at the Staples Center it would be free (she wanted to do it at the Coliseum)
Mrs. Jackson sagte AEG sagte ihnen, wenn sie es im Staples Center machen wäre es kostenlos (sie wollte es im Coleseum machen.)
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 16m
Putnam asked if AEG put together a Memorial Service for MJ. She said yes.
Putnam fragt ob AEG das Memorial Service für MJ machte. Sie sagt ja.
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 16m
Putnam asked if Mrs. Jackson knows Gongaware. "No, but that shouldn't have stopped him, to say I'm sorry what happened to your son" she said
Putnam fragt Mrs. Jackson ob sie Gongaware kennt. "Nein aber das hätte ihn nicht abhalten sollen zu sagen, dass es ihm leid tut war mit ihrem Sohn geschah", sagt sie
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 17m
Putnam: Did I say anything improper in the deposition regarding the Nation of Islam?
Putnam: Sagte ich etwas unangemessenes in der Depsition bzgl. Nation of Islam?
Mrs. Jackson: You were asking me question about it
"Sie fragten mich Fragen darüber
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 17m
Mrs. Jackson doesn't know why Sister Rose is called sister and Brother Michael is brother.
Mrs Jackson weiß nicht warum Sister Rose Schwester und Brother Michael Bruder ist
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 17m
"She told me that MJ was very weak, and she told me that she talked about what went down at the practice, they had to hold him up" she said
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 19m
Putnam asked if Mrs. Jackson spoke with Sister Rose, the kids' nanny.
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 19m
"I could, but I didn't want to bring that up with them," Mrs. Jackson answered.
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 20m
Putnam asked if Mrs. Jackson talked to her grandchildren about Dr. Murray in search of the truth.
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 20m
In re-cross, Putnam showed a video where Mrs. Jackson said "It could've been prevented, he hired a doctor to take care of him."
In Re-Cross Putnam zeigt ein Video wo Mrs. Jackson sagt "Es hätte verhindert werden können, er stellte den Arzt an um für ihn zu sorgen."
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 21m
Panish asked if the figure for restitution was set by the state. Mrs. Jackson said yes.
Panish fragt ob die Zahl für die Wiedergutmachung vom Staat festgesetzt wird. Mrs. J:Ja
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 21m
Panish: Issue of restitution was the state decision and you told them not to do it, correct?
Panish: Thema der Restitution war eine Staatsentscheidung und Sie sagten Ihnen es nicht zu tun, richtig?
Mrs. Jackson: Yes
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 21m
Panish showed picture of MJ in June 09 and asked if she ever saw her son like that. "Never," said Mrs. Jackson crying, wiping her eyes.
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 22m
"They watched him waste away and waited, I know they did it," Mrs. Jackson said, crying.
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 22m
Mrs. Jackson: They were there, without calling somebody. My husband and I would have been there in a second (crying)
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 22m
Panish: Did AEG ever tell you they called your son a freak?
Mrs. Jackson: No
P: And that it was creepy meeting your son?
Mrs. J: No (crying)
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 23m
"The could've called me, he was asking for his father, he was scared, he was asking for Joseph," Mrs. Jackson said, crying.
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 23m
Mrs. Jackson said she learned about MJ's condition in court, that AEG never told her MJ was deteriorating, paranoia, losing weight, rambling
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 24m
Panish asked if she knew Hougdahl wrote an email to AEG that MJ was deteriorating in front of his eyes?
Mrs. Jackson: No
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 24m
Panish: Did you know your son was sleep-deprived for 60 days?
Mrs. Jackson: No, I didn't
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 24m
Phillips and Gongaware never called/send card to Mrs. Jackson after MJ died, Mrs Jackson said. Kenny Ortega went to see her, she said.
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 25m
"Why," Panish asked. "I wanted to find out what really happened to my son," Mrs. Jackson responded.
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 25m
Panish asked what she did to go about this case. "I hired your firm," Mrs. Jackson said.
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 26m
Mrs Jackson said she doesn't know anything about computers, it's not a lawyer or investigator. Her highest level of education is high school
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 27m
Panish: Farrakhan and Nation of Islam, does that have anything to do with your son's death?
Mrs. Jackson: No
P: Were you upset?
Mrs. J: Yes
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 27m
Panish inquired if Putnam asked during deposition personal question?
Mrs. Jackson: Yes, he asked 'did your husband beat you'?
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 27m
Panish: Did you rely on him (MJ) for all necessities of life?
Panish: Haben Sie sich verlassen auf ihn (MJ) für alle Notwendigkeiten des Lebens?
Mrs. Jackson: Yes
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 28m
In re-direct, Panish asked if before MJ died, was he paying for everything?
Panish fragt, zahlte MJ für alles?
Mrs. Jackson: Yes, paying for everything Ja er bezahlte alles
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 29m
Mrs. Jackson said she told Janet she didn't have to continue to send her money after MJ died.
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 29m
Mrs. Jackson said she was receiving that amount when MJ died. The money went to her assistant Janice at the office.
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 29m
At first, it was not on a monthly basis, but it became that way, Mrs. Jackson explained. Janet sent her $10,000 a month.
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 29m
Mrs. Jackson testified she was receiving money from MJ and also from Janet Jackson.
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 29m
Mrs. Jackson said she never told AEG Live or Randy Phillips about MJ having drug problem.
Mrs. Jackson sagt sie hat nie AEG oder Phillips etwas über Mediprobleme von MJ gesagt.
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 30m
Putnam: Did you tell Mr. DiLeo you were concerned that your son was abusing painkillers?
Putnam: Haben Sie Mr. Dileo gesagt, dass sie besorgt sind, dass ihr Sohn Schmerzmittel nimmt?
Mrs. Jackson: No, since he had just come back
Nein, weil er gerade erst zurück kam.
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 30m
Mrs. Jackson: Michael and DiLeo told me he was back for the This Is It tour.
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 30m
Putnam asked if it was someone other than MJ who hired DiLeo. "I think so, Michael didn't want him back," she said.
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 31m
Mrs. Jackson wanted to know why people kept re-hiring people Michael had fired.
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 31m
She remembers answering the phone when Frank DiLeo went back to work for Michael.
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 31m
Mrs. Jackson said she had many conversations with Frank DiLeo and they were all friendly.
Mrs. Jackson sagt, dass sie viele Unterhaltungen mit Dileo hatte und sie waren alle freundlich
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 32m
Mrs. Jackson said she never discussed with her son's attorneys or managers about her concerns.
Mrs. Jackson sagt, dass nie mit den Anwälten oder Managern des Sohnes über Drogenprolbeme sprach.
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 32m
Putnam: Was there any time during the criminal trial that you were concerned MJ was under the influence of something?
Mrs. Jackson: No
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 32m
Putnam: Was there a time you were concerned with MJ using painkillers?
Mrs. Jackson: I can't say I weren't concerned
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 32m
"I didn't know what to believe," she said. "I went to Neverland because my children kept asking me and I was concerned."
Ich wusste nicht was ich glauben sollte. Ich ging nach Neverland weil meine Kinder mich fragten und ich besorgt war
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 33m
Putnam: Do you think your son was abusing painkillers?
Putnam: Denken Sie Ihr Sohn hat Schmerzmittel missbraucht?
Mrs. Jackson: I don't know
Ich weiß es nicht
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 33m
"I didn't know what to believe," Mrs. Jackson said.
"Ich wusste nicht was ich glauben sollte"

Mrs. Jackson conceded she denied this morning that her son was abusing drugs.
Mrs. Jackson gibt zu, dass sie diesen Morgen verneinte das ihr Sohn Medikamente missbrauchte
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 33m
Mrs. Jackson: I kind of believe it and didn't believe it, hearing from my children, hearing from other people.
Mrs: Jacksin: Ich glaubte es und glaubte es nicht, hörend von meinen Kindern, von anderen Leuten
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 34m
Mrs. Jackson told Oprah she didn't want to hear MJ had overdosed. MJ kept saying he wasn't on it, and that his own mother didn't believe him
Mrs. Jackson erzhlte Oprah sie sagte MJ sie wolle nicht das er overdosed wird. MJ sagte er wäre auf nichts und seine eigene Mutter würde ihm nicht glauben
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 35m
She also said about the family's attempted intervention: the children told her to take MJ to rehab and kind of clean him up.
Sie erzählte auch über Familieninterventionen, dass die Kinder ihr sagten sie versuchen MJ zur Reha zu bringen, ihn clean zu machen
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 39m
In Oprah's interview, Mrs. Jackson said it was a long time before she knew MJ was addicted to painkillers.
Im IV sagte sie, es war eine lange Zeit davor bevor sie wusste, dass MJ abhänig war wegen Schmerzmittel
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 40m
Mrs. Jackson: I told you MJ was on painkillers, but I don't think he was abusing it.
Mrs. Jackson: Ich sagte Ihnen MJ war auf Schmerzmedikamenten, aber ich denke nicht er missbrauchte sie.
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 40m
Putnam: You said you believed your son was addicted to drugs?
Putnam: Sagten Sie, dass Sie glaubten das ihr Sohn abhänig von Drogen war?
Mrs. Jackson: I told Oprah that
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 41m
Putnam: Did you try to tell the truth in that interview?
Putnam: Sagten Sie die Wahrheit im IV?
Mrs. Jackson: Yes
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 41m
Oprah's interview aired about a month after the the lawsuit was filed. She watched it when it aired at the Hayvenhurst house.
Oprahs IV wurde 1 Monat danach aussgstrahlt als Kathrine die Klage einreichte.
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 41m
Putnam asked if she recalls sitting down for interview with Oprah Winfrey in the fall of 2010. Mrs. Jackson said yes.
Putnam fragt ob sie sich erinnert zum IV bei Oprah gesessen zu haben im Herbst 2010. Sie sagt Ja
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 42m
Putnam asked if Mrs Jackson knows there were a number of doctors who testified in this case. She said she didn't know, didn't see deposition
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 43m
Mrs. Jackson said she does not remember MJ showing her a Narcan patch.
Mrs. Jackson kann sich nicht erinnern das MJ ihr ein Narcan _implantat zeigte
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 43m
As to Louis Farrakhan -- she met him, but doesn't remember seeing him at Neverland.
Sie traf Louis Farrakhan, aber erinnert sich nicht an ein Treffen in Neverland
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 43m
Mrs. Jackson said she doesn't remember discussing the implant in 2002.
Mrs. Jackson sagt sie erinnert sich nicht daran mit ihm über ein Implantat in 2002 gesprochen zu haben
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 44m
Putnam: Do you remember testimony about MJ having an implant to treat Demerol?
Putnam: Erinnern Sie sich über das Zeugnis das MJ ein Implantat gegen Demorol hatte?
Mrs. Jackson: I don't know anything about that
Mrs. Jackson: Ich weiß nicht darüber
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 44m
"I don't remember who Dr. Farshchian is and I don't remember treating Michael for Demerol," Mrs. Jackson said.
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 44m
Putnam asked if Dr. Farshchian testified he spoke with her because she wanted to know all the details of her son's Demerol use.
Putnam sagt, dass Dr. Farshchiam aussagte er sprach mit ihr weil sie alle Details über den Demerol-Gebrauch ihres Sohnes wissen wollte.
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 45m
Putnam showed Mrs. Jackson transcript of Dr. Farshchian's deposition and asked if that refreshed her recollection. She said it doesn't.
Putnam zeigt Mrs. Jackson Transcript von Dr. Farshchians Aussage und ob es ihre Erinnerung zurückholt. Sie sagt nein.
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 45m
Mrs. Jackson said he doesn't recall Dr. Farshchian and does not recall any phone call with any doctor about MJ's addiction to Demerol.
Mrs. Jackson sagt sie erinnert sich nicht an Dr. Farshchian und kann sich an kein Telefonat mit einem Arzt über MJs Abhänikgeit zu Demorol erinnern
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 46m
Putnam asked about the attempted intervention in 2002. He asked about Dr. Farshchian treating MJ's addiction to Demerol.
Putnam fragt über Interventionen in 2002. Er fragt über Dr. Farshchians Behandlung wegen MJs Demorol-Abhänigkeit
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 47m
Mrs. Jackson wore black and white print long jacket with fuchsia flowers, with cranberry top and skirt.
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 48m
Mrs. Jackson: I don't like hearing bad news.
Mrs. Jackson: Ich mag keine schlechten Nachrichten hören
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 48m
Putnam asked about whether she shut her ears to bad things. "I may have said that but I don't remember," Mrs. Jackson responded.
Putnam fragt ob sie die Ohren verschließt gegenüber schelchten Nachrichten. " Ich mag dies gesagt haben, kann mich aber nicht erinnern, sagt sie
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 49m
MJ's mother said she never heard before tour had been canceled because of MJ's rehab. She said it doesn't mean it wasn't but she didn't know
MJ`s Mutter sagt sie hat niemals über die Tourcancelung gehört weil MJ auf Reha ging. Sie sagt, dass heißt nicht, dass es nicht wahr ist, aber sie weiß es nicht
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 50m
Mrs. Jackson said she did not discuss with MJ about it and had never heard MJ's 1993 announcement he was going into rehab.
Mrs. Jackson sagt sie redete nicht mit MJ darüber und hörte niemals über MJs 1993 Ankündigung, dass er in Reha geht
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 50m
Mrs. Jackson: My children probably didn't want me to know about it.
Mrs. Jackson: Meine Kinder wollten wohl nicht, dass ich darüber weiß
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 51m
Mrs. Jackson: I had heard that, that Elizabeth Taylor had something to do about drugs but I don't watch television that much.
Mrs. J: Ich hörte das E.T. etwas mit Drogen zu tun hat, aber ich schaute nicht viel fern
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 51m
Putnam: Were you aware your son MJ had gone to rehab before?
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 52m
Putnam showed Mrs. Jackson Randy's deposition saying MJ asked her to sign the letter. She said it doesn't refresh her recollection about it.
Putnam zeigte Mrs. J. Randy`s Aussage wo er sagt, das MJ Kathrine fragte den Brief zu unterzeichnen. Sie sagt das holt nicht ihre Erinnerung darüber zurück
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 52m
Mrs. Jackson said she doesn't' remember MJ being involved in the draft of the letter. She doesn't know who asked her to sign it.
Mrs. J. sagt sie kann sich nicht erinnern das MJ beim Entwurf des Briefes involviert war. Sie weiß nicht ob er fragte, dass sie unterzeichnete.
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 53m
Putnam: Isn't it true your son MJ asked you to sign this?
Mrs. Jackson: I don't remember my son asking me to sign this
Expand
ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 56m
Mrs. Jackson: As far as the tabloids, I didn't waste my time because I know all they do is to try to make money
Expand

[Lena]

Habe mal lückenhaft übersetzt. Von unten nach oben. Aussage geht bis Post 239

1. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 6h
2. "It would've been important but I told you I didn't talk to my grandchildren about that," Mrs. Jackson responded.

"Es könnte wichtig sein, aber ich sprach nicht mit den Enkeln darüber, sagt sie.

1. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 6h
2. Putnam asked Mrs. Jackson's search for the truth and if she thought it would be important to know whether the doctor spending the nights.
3. Putnam fragt ob es für Mrs. Jackson`s Suche nach Wahrheit wichtig sein könnte zu wissen ob der Arzt die Nächte dort verbrachte.
4. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 6h
5. Putnam: Do you remember him (Prince) saying he (the doctor) spent 6 nights a week? Mrs. Jackson: No, I don't remember that
6. Putnam: Erinnern Sie sich das Prince sagte das der Arzt 6 Nächte die Woche da war? Mrs. Jackson: Nein, ich erinner micht nicht.
7. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 6h
8. Putnam asked if Prince testified a doctor was spending the nights at the house. Mrs. Jackson: I don't remember him saying that
9. Putnam fragt ob Prince aussagte der Arzt verbrachte die Nächte im Haus. Mrs Jackson: Nein. Ich erinner mich nicht das er es sagte.
10. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 6h
11. Putnam: Did you ever have conversation with your grandchildren prior to trial about the doctor spending the night at the house? She said no
12. Putnam: Haben Sie jemals eine Unterhaltung mit den Enkeln vor dem Prozess gehabt darüber, dass der Arzt die Nächte im Haus verbrachte? Sie sagt nein
13. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 6h
14. Putnam: Prior to your son's death, did you know your son had a doctor spending the night at the house? Mrs. Jackson: No
15. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 6h
16. Mrs. Jackson said she had not heard about Dr. Murray prior to MJ's death. Her son did not discuss what treatments he was having with her.
17. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 6h
18. Mrs. Jackson said she can't recall exactly what was said in the Dateline interview, but she does remember saying MJ hired the doctor.
19. MRs. Jackson sagt sie kann sich nicht exakt an das Dateline IV erinnern, aber ich sie erinnert sich, dass sie sagte das MJ den Arzt anstellte.
20. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 6h
21. "I don't think he could've prevented his own death," Mrs. Jackson testified. "I just said I thought he hired the doctor. I do recall that."
22. "Ich denke nicht er hätte seinen Tod verhindern können, ich sagte nur ich dachte er stellte den Arzt an. Ich erinner mich daran."
23. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 6h
24. Putnam: Do you recall why you said your son hired the doctor and that your son could've prevented his own death?
25. Putnam: Erinnern Sie sich das sie sagten, dass Ihr Sohn den Arzt anstellte und das Ihr Sohn seinen Tod hätte verhindern können?
26. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 6h
27. Mrs Jackson said that's all that's been talked about in the trial and that she remembers emails, Phillips' interview saying AEG hired Murray
28. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 6h
29. "I didn't say I didn't remember anything, I said I'm 83, I would 't remember everything," Mrs. Jackson responded.
30. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 6h
31. Putnam asked how she remembers it when she said her memory wasn't very good.
32. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 6h
33. Mrs. Jackson: I had heard they had hired and there was the doctor there so I thought MJ had hired him, not knowing the facts.
34. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 6h
35. She said from hearing the emails, AEG said they had hired him and that Randy Phillips went on TV saying they hired him.
36. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 6h
37. Mrs. Jackson said she doesn't believe that MJ hired Dr. Murray because of what she's been listening here in court.
38. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 6h
39. "He didn't say stacks, he measure with his fingers," Mrs. Jackson explained.
40. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 6h
41. Putnam asked if she heard testimony from Prince saying he would give Dr. Murray stacks of money in a rubber band.
42. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 6h
43. Putnam asked if MJ ever paid Dr. Murray. She answered it was to treat the children.
44. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 6h
45. Putnam: You heard testimony MJ hired Dr. Murray in Las Vegas? Mrs Jackson: He had doctors for his children, I don't know if it was Dr Murray
46. Putnam: Sie hörten Aussagen, das MJ Dr. Murray in Las Vegas anstellte? Mrs. J: Er hatte einen Arzt für die Kinder, weiß nicht ob es Dr. Murray war
47. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 6h
48. Putnam: Do you believe your son hired Dr. Murray? Mrs. Jackson: No I don't
49. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 6h
50. "Conrad Murray, even if he asked, he could've said no," Mrs. Jackson opined.
51. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 6h
52. Mrs. Jackson said she had not heard that MJ asked other doctors for Propofol. Putnam asked if that came to a surprise for her. She said yes.
53. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 6h
54. Putnam: Did you hear from the criminal trial that your son asked Dr. Murray to give him Propofol? Mrs. Jackson: I have heard
55. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 6h
56. Putnam: Do you remember MJ asking for Propofol? Panish: Calls for hearsay response
57. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 6h
58. Putnam: Do you believe your son MJ knew Dr. Murray was giving him Propofol? Panish: Objection, calls for speculation
59. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 6h
60. Putnam: You never believed your son had any part in his own death? Mrs. Jackson: Correct!
61. Putnam: Sie haben nie geglaubt, dass Ihr Sohn Anteil an seinem Tod hat? Mrs. J. Correct
62. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 6h
63. Putnam: Do you believe that your son is in any way responsible for his passing? Mrs. Jackson: No I don't
64. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 6h
65. Putnam asked if Mrs. Jackson has been here most of the days over the past 12 weeks.
66. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 10h
67. Putnam asked about the damages Mrs. Jackson asked for in her lawsuit. MJ's mother responded that he could ask her attorneys about it.
68. Putnam fragt nach dem Schadensersatz den Mrs. Jackson für sich in der Klage erfragt. Sie sagt, dass er ihre Anwälte fragen könne.
69. @ABC7Courts 10h
70. Putnam: Did you ever ask MJ about having money problems? Mrs. Jackson: No, because I didn't believe it. Because he wasn't.
71. Putnam: Fragten Sie jemals MJ ob er Geldprobleme hat? Mrs. Jackson: Nein, weil ich es nicht glaubte. Weil er nicht.
72. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 10h
73. Putnam: You heard about MJ having money problems? Mrs. Jackson: I heard for years Michael Jackson was broken and he wasn't
74. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 10h
75. And Mrs. Jackson asked: "What does this have to do with the death of my son?"
76. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 10h
77. "They were being offered money under the table, that's what I heard from my son," Mrs. Jackson testified.
78. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 10h
79. She also said MJ told her too that people were making deals on his behalf.
80. Sie sagte auch, dass MJ ihr sagte das Leute Geld mit ihm machten.
81. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 10h
82. Mrs. Jackson testified she heard stories about it. Putnam: Who did you hear that from? Mrs. Jackson: Just different people
83. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 10h
84. "They have been saying it for 15 years," Mrs. Jackson said. "People were taking money from him also, stealing I should say."
85. "Sie sagten dies seit 15 Jahren." Leute nahmen Geld von ihm, stohlen es, sollte ich sagen."
86. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 10h
87. Putnam: Where you aware MJ was having financial difficulties when he passed away? Mrs. Jackson: Yes, I've heard from some people
88. Wussten Sie das MJ fnanz. Schwierigkeiten hatte als er starb? Mrs. Jackson."Ja ich hörte es von einigen Leuten."
89. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 10h
90. Regarding Michael having money problems, Mrs. Jackson said : "My son made a lot of money, he had people working for him."
91. Bzgl. Geldproblemen von MJ. "Mein Sohn hat sehr viel verdient, er hatte Leute, die für ihn arbeiteten."
92. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 10h
93. Putnam asked if Mrs. Jackson had a bank account back in 2010 when she filed her lawsuit. She said she doesn't recall.
94. Putnam fragt ob sie ein Bankkonte in 2010 hatte als sie die Klage erhob. Sie sagt sie erinnert sich nicht.
95. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 10h
96. Putnam asked again if there was any record of the money MJ gave her. She replied she didn't think she needed to.
97. Putnam fragt wieder ob es Aufzeichnungen gibt darüber das er ihr Geld gab. Sie antwortet, sie denkt nein.
98. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 10h
99. "When he gave me cash, it was a gift, I didn't think I needed to report to anyone," Mrs. Jackson said.
100. Wenn er mir Cash gab, war es ein Geschenk, ich musste es nirgendwo festhelten oder jemand berichten."
101. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 10h
102. "My son took care of me, food, shelter, clothes," Mrs. Jackson explained.
103. Mein Sohn sorgte für mich, Essen, Kleider...."
104. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 10h
105. "It was a gift," Mrs. Jackson said about the money she received from Michael. Putnam asked if she reported/recorded anywhere.
106. Es war ein Geschenk, sagt Mrs. Jackson über das Geld was sie von Michael erhielt. Putnam fragt ob sie es irgendwo angab/aufzeichnete
107. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 10h
108. Mrs. Jackson lives now in a gated community in Calabasas. Hayvenhurst house is under renovation.
109. Mrs. Jacckson lebt nun in Calabasas. Hayvenhurst ist unter Renovierung.
110. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 10h
111. Putnam asking about the house in Gary, Indiana. It's been 44 years since she left and moved in to the Hayvenhurst house.
112. Putnam fragt über das Haus in Gary. Es ist 44 Jahre her, dass sie es verließ und sie nach Hayvenhurst zog.
113. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 10h
114. Mrs. Jackson said MJ would give her money in cash, but she would not write down the amounts.
115. Mrs. Jackson sagt MJ gab ihr Geld in Cash, aber sie führte nicht Buch über die Beträge.
116. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 10h
117. Putnam explained to Mrs. Jackson about the discovery process, where both sides have to exchange documents related to the case.

1. ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts 10h
   Katherine Jackson back on the stand for cross examination. Session began at 9:55 am PT. Marvin Putnam, for AEG, doing the questioning.