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  • The Jacksons vs. AEG Live — Zeugen der Jacksons, 38. Teil

    23. Juli 2013

    Am Sonntag haben wir über den ersten Tag der Zeugeneinvernahme von Michael Jacksons Mutter Katherine berichtet. Dabei haben wir auch zum ausführlichen Protokoll verlinkt. Für diejenigen, die nicht viel Zeit haben/hatten, das Protokoll zu lesen, hier ein Artikel von CNN http://edition.cnn.com/2013/07/22/sh...iref=allsearch über den Inhalt von Katherines emotionalen Aussagen und Geschichten über ihr und Michaels Leben. Brian Panish, Anwalt der Jacksons, sagte einführend: “Ich möchte, dass die Geschworenen sehen, dass Menschen mit diesem Fall verbunden sind. Wir haben viele Aussagen über Zahlen und E-Mails gesehen, aber dahinter stehen Menschen”.

    Wie berichtet, begann am Freitagnachmittag das Kreuzverhör von Katherine Jackson durch AEG Anwalt Marvin Putnam. Die Befragung wurde jedoch kurz später abgebrochen, nachdem Katherine der Richterin sagte, dass sie müde sei. Gestern wurde Katherine Jacksons Befragung fortgesetzt.

    Katherine Jackson hat in ihrer Aussage zu verstehen gegeben, dass Conrad Murray nur eine Teilschuld am Tod ihres Sohnes habe. AEG Live hätte kaltschnäuzig zugesehen, wie Michael in den Tagen vor seinem Tod “verkümmerte” und sie hätten vernachlässig, Unterstützung von aussen zu holen. “Sie hätten mich anrufen können. Er hatte nach seinem Vater gefragt. Mein Enkel sagte mir, dass [Michael] verängstigt war; er hatte nach Joseph gefragt”, erzählte Katherine unter Tränen.

    Katherine sagte auch aus, dass sie nicht glaube, dass ihr Sohn unter Medikamentenmissbrauch gelitten hatte und dass sie ihn nie “loopy” gesehen hätte. Als sie mit ihrem Interview aus 2010 mit Oprah Winfrey konfrontiert wurde, worin sie Oprah gegenüber sagte, dass sie die Behauptungen Michaels, dass er vollkommen “clean” gewesen sei, nicht abnahm, gab sie zu, dass sie “nicht wusste, was sie glauben sollte”. Als Putnam Katherine Jackson zu ihrem einzigen Gespräch mit Michael über seinen Medikamentengebrauch befragte, sagte Katherine, dass sie diese Frage nicht beantworten werde und beschuldigte Putnam, dass er beabsichtige, sie aus dem Konzept zu bringen. “Sie versuchen bloss, mich durcheinander zu bringen, damit Sie später etwas haben, worauf sie zurückkommen können”, so Katherine zu Putnam.

    Als Katherine zum ersten Mal vernahm, dass ihr Sohn Conrad Murray um Propofol bat, war sie überrascht. Sie sagte aber auch, dass auch wenn Michael Murray um Propofol gebeten hatte, dieser hätte nein sagen können.

    Man kam auch auf die Intervention der Jackson Familie auf Neverland im 2002 zu sprechen. Katherine sagte, Michael wäre nüchtern und aufgebracht gewesen über diese Aktion. “Es gab keine tiefgründige Diskussion oder so. Als wir dort ankamen, ging es ihm gut und er war verärgert. Es war etwas peinlich”, so Katherine. Putnam befragte Katherine dann zu einem offenen Brief, den die Familie im 2007 an die Medien geschrieben und den sie mitunterzeichnet hatte. In jenem Brief verneinte die Familie, dass Michael ein Medikamentenproblem hatte und dass es je zu einer Intervention gekommen sei. Wieso sie den Brief unterzeichnet hatte, wenn es nicht wahr war, fragte Putnam sie. “Ich wollte Sachen, die nicht der Wahrheit entsprachen, [ein Ende setzen]“, sagte sie und erschien dabei leicht verwirrt.

    Putnam befragte Katherine Jackson auch zu ihrer Klage (gegen AEG), die sie ein Jahr vor dem Strafprozess gegen Conrad Murray eingereicht hatte. “Vor dem Prozess… sprachen Sie da jemals mit Ihren Enkelkindern über die Tatsache, dass Dr. Murray Michael Jackson im Schlafzimmer hinter verschlossenen Türen behandelt hatte”, fragte Putnam. “Nein”, antwortete Katherine. “Mrs. Jackson, Sie glauben doch, dass Dr. Conrad Murray teilweise verantwortlich ist am Tod Ihres Sohnes, nicht wahr?” “Natürlich”, sagte Katherine.

    Später sagte Katherine den Geschworenen, dass einige Fragen von Putnam während der eidesstattlichen Zeugeneinvernahme vor Prozessbeginn sie verärgert hatten. Unter anderem die Frage, ob ihr Mann, Joe Jackson, sie geschlagen hatte.

    Am Ende des Prozesstages sagte Putnam der NY Daily News gegenüber, dass er glaube, Katherine Jackson sei vor Michaels Tod im 2009 in der gleichen, uninformierten Position gewesen wie AEG Live. “Wie Katherine Jackson nun ausgesagt hat, war sie bezüglich des jahrzehntelangen Medikamentengebrauchs ihres Sohnes Michael Jackson im Dunkeln und sie ‘schliesst ihre Ohren’ wann immer jemand etwas Negatives über ihn sagt. Sie will nicht, dass irgend jemand oder irgend etwas die idealisierte Erinnerung durcheinander bringt, die sie von ihrem Kind, das sie verloren hat, hat. Wer kann es ihr verübeln?”

    Quellen: jackson.ch, nydailynews.com, cnn.com

    Weiterlesen unter http://www.jackson.ch/the-jacksons-v...ksons-38-teil/
    Copyright © jackson.ch
    Zuletzt geändert von geli2709; 24.07.2013, 10:23.

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    • Aus der gestrigen Aussage von John Meglan geht u.a. hervor, dass AEG dem Jackson-Estate nach Michaels Tod 60 Mio. für eine 10-jährige Show in einem Las Vegas-Hotel anboten, basierend auf den Songs von MJ. Sie boten weitere 40 Mio. um die Show zu kreieren. John Branca kam ledigl. zu einem Angebotsgespräch, sagte aber ab und hat sich für die Zuammenarbeit mit Cirque entschieden. Die Jacksons hatten die Las Vegas-Show in ihren Berechnungen zum Verdienst von MJ aufgeführt.

      AEG offered Michael Jackson estate $60 million for Las Vegas show

      By Jeff Gottlieb
      July 23, 2013, 1:21 p.m.
      An AEG Live executive testified Tuesday that the firm offered Michael Jackson's estate a guarantee of $60 million over 10 years in a deal that included a Las Vegas theatrical show based on the pop star's songs.

      John Meglen said the proposal included a "Michael Jackson campus" at the Planet Hollywood Hotel that would have included the singer's artifacts, two restaurants, a nightclub and stores to sell merchandise.

      The show would have been directed by Kenny Ortega, the director of the ill-fated "This Is It" 50-concert comeback tour Jackson was preparing when he died in 2009.

      The AEG executive testified his company would have paid an additional $40 million to create the show.

      "The $40 million gets you to opening night," he said.

      Meglen, dressed in a dark blue suit and a white shirt open at the collar, said this would have been AEG's first shot at creating what he called a "conceptual show," rather than one where a live performer is the main attraction.

      Conceptual shows, he said, are riskier.

      “With the headliner, you have a certain track record of how many tickets they’re going to sell … but if you do a show based on Elton’s music or Celine’s music, it depends on how good the show is, I guess,” said Meglen referring to Elton John and Celine Dion, singers who have done extended runs at Las Vegas hotels.

      Meglen said that hearing that Cirque du Soleil was talking to the Jackson estate is what led AEG to make its pitch.

      He said they had a meeting with the estate's co-executor, John Branca, in his conference room. Meglen said AEG did a "B-minus, C-plus pitch. In my opinion, they were already down the road and they wanted to do the show with Cirque.”

      The Circue du Soleil tribute to Jackson is playing at the Mandalay Bay Hotel, with shows scheduled to open soon in China, Australia and New Zealand.

      Meglen said AEG never made Jackson an offer for a conceptual show while he was alive.

      “We thought if we could create the show with Michael’s catalog that that could be very successful, but it’s risky,” Meglen said.

      The court is hearing the wrongful death case filed by Jackson's mother and three children against AEG Live.

      http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/l...0,605986.story

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      • Bitte von unten nach oben lesen.

        Dr. Farshchians Aussage vom August 2012.
        Video wurde in der Verhandlung gezeigt.
        ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h

        Dr. Farshchian: Once at Neverland Michael showed his mother the implant. She was very happy about it.
        [B]Einmal, auf Neverland, zeigte Michael seiner Mutter das Implantat. Sie war sehr glücklich damit./B]


        Dr. Farshchian: Yes, I don't recall the conversation, but once she understood the procedure he said she was happy
        Dr. F.: Ja, ich kan mich nicht an das Gespräch genau erinnern, aber als sie die Prozedur verstand, war sie froh, sagte er.


        Did you understand Mrs. Jackson was concerned about his health?
        Hatten Sie den Eindruck Mrs. Jackson war wg. seiner Gesundheit besorgt?


        Last time he spoke with MJ on the phone was in the Winter of 2004. His first impression was that he wanted to get better for the kids' sake.
        Das letzte Mal sprach er im Winter 2004 mit Michael am Telefon. Sein erster Eindruck war, dass er wollte, dass es ihm der Kinder wegen besser geht.


        Michael called Mrs. Jackson and Dr. Farshchian said he was treating MJ for addiction to Demerol.
        Michael rief Mrs. Jackson an und Dr. F. sagte, er behandelte MJ wg. seiner Demerol-Abhängigkeit.


        He said he also had a phone call with Mrs. Jackson where she wanted to know about the implants.
        Er sagte, er hatte auch ein Telefongespräch mit Mrs. Jackson, sie wollte über die Implantate informiert werden.


        Last time Dr. Farshchian spoke with Mrs. Jackson was at the funeral. Before he spoke with her at a 2002 Christmas at Neverland.
        Das letzte Mal sprach Dr. F. auf der Beerdigung mit Mrs. Jackson. Davor sprach er mit ihr 2002 an Weihnachten auf Neverland.


        Dr. Metzger-- yes, heard being MJ's physician in LA, might have spoken to him. Spoke about implants, what to do about it, how he should look
        Dr. Metzger ---ja, ich hörte, dass er MJs Arzt in LA war. Möglich , dass ich mal mit ihm über die Implantate gesprochen habe, was zu tun sei, wie er es sieht.


        Dr. Steven Hoefflin -- Dr. Farshchian doesn't know him
        Dr. Steven Hoefflin --- Dr. Farshchian kennt ihn nicht.


        Dr. Murray -- Dr. Farshchian doesn't know him Dr. Arnold Klein -- yes, I heard about him through the media
        Dr, Murray - nein kennt er nicht, auch Dr. Klein nicht ---aber er hörte von ihm durch die Medien.


        MJ was seeing other doctors in CA. List of other doctors: Dr. William Van Valin -- Dr. Farshchian doesn't know him
        MJ sah andere Ärzte in Kalifornien. Liste der Ärzte: Dr. Willian Van Valin --- Dr. F. kennt ihn nicht.

        Dr. Farshchian said he didn't know why MJ became addicted or started taking Demerol. The doctor said MJ did not abuse other drugs or alcohol
        Dr. F. sagte, er weiß nicht warum MJ abhängig wurde, oder wann er anfing Demerol zu nehmen. Er sagte MJ hätte keine anderen Medikamente oder Alkohol missbraucht.

        "Monkey on his back" was Demerol use, Dr. Farshchian said.
        Das Problem war das Demerol .


        Dr. Farshchian said when MJ's third child, Blanket, was just born, there was 'a monkey on his back', he didn't want to do it anymore.
        Dr. F. sagte, gerade als MJs 3. Kind Blanket geboren war, hatte er dieses Problem, er wollte das nicht mehr.


        Dr. Farshchian is not aware of MJ doing any other outpatient treatment.
        Dr. F. weiß von keiner anderen ambulanten Behandlung.


        Putnam asked if the intervention was in the Spring of 2002. Dr. Farshchian said it might've been after or before, not sure.
        Putnam fragte, ob die Intervention im Frühlung 2002 war.
        Dr. F. sagte, möglicherweise davor oder danach, er ist sich nicht sicher.


        Dr. Farshchian: There was an attempt intervention by the family but MJ was very difficult to get to, bodyguard, so it may not have happene
        Dr. F.: Es gab da einen Interventionsversuch der Familie, aber an MJ war nur schwer ranzukommen, die Bodyguards, so hat dieser evtl.. nicht stattgefunden.


        Putnam: How was he doing? Dr. Farshchian: Not too good Putnam: Was he using drugs again? Dr. Farshchian: No
        Putnam: Wie ging es ihm?
        Dr. F.: Nicht sehr gut.
        Putnam: Hat er wieder Tabletten genommen?
        Dr. F.: Nein.


        The next time Dr. Farshchian saw Michael was the weekend after he was arrested.
        Das nächste Mal sah Dr. F. Michael an dem WE an dem er verhaftet wurde.

        Patient can follow up with local physician at this point. Dr. Farshchian said he thought it was enough, the treatment was done.
        Der Patient kann nun von seinem örtlichen Arzt weiterbehandelt werden. Dr. F. sagte, er war der Meinung, dass es genug war, die Behandlung war abgeschlossen.

        7/2/03 -- patient returned for another implant, sober for almost 9 months, good with 12 step program
        2.7.03 -- Patient wieder da für ein anderes Implantat, nüchtern/clean seit 9 Monaten, alles bestens mit dem 12-Schritte-Programm.

        4/3/03: patient returns for another implant, sober for almost 6 months following 12 step program at least once week w/ private social worker
        3.4.03 -- Patient wieder da für ein anderes Implantat, clean seit 6 Monaten, 12-Schritte-Programm einmal die Woche mit privatem Sozialarbeiter.


        1/20/03 -- patient returns for another implant, been sober for more than 2 months, states been following the 12 step program Weight: 135 lbs
        20.1.03 -- Patient wieder da für ein anderes Implantat, clean für mehr als 2 Monate, Gewicht: 135 lbs.


        12/4/02 record: Narcan implant at its place Exercised the 12 steps with him
        4.12.02 -- Narcan Implantat an seinem Platz. Ging mit ihm die 12 Schritte durch.


        Dr. Farshchian said he converted his garage into a bedroom for MJ. He never treated MJ at the house.
        Dr. F. sagte, er funktionierte f. MJ seine Garage in ein Schlafzimmer um.Er hat MJ nie zu Hause behandelt.

        He lives in North Miami Beach, Bay Harbor Island. Grace Rwamba might've stayed at the house as well.
        Er lebte in Nord Miami Beach, Bay Harbor Island. Grace R. war anscheinend auch dort ..


        There was a period of time MJ stayed with Dr. Farshchian. He stayed over two times, the children one time.
        In einer Zeit hat MJ bei Dr. F. übernachtet. 2 x, die Kinder 1 x.

        Dr. Farshchian: Each of the steps is somewhat connected of asking God to help you get strength to battle addiction.
        Dr. F.: Jeder der Schritte ist so etwas wie Gott um Hilfe zu fragen, um Kraft für den Kampf gegen die Abhängigkeit zu bekommen.


        12/2/02 record -- feel very good, sleeping well Patient sober, now going over the 12 steps with him
        2.12.02 -- fühlt sich sehr gut, schläf gut, Patient clean, nun machen wir die nächsten 12 Schritte


        Dr. Farshchian: My practice is completely orthopedic regeneration. He said he treats arthritis and orthopedic conditions.
        Dr. F. hat eine orthopädische Praxis.


        11/29/02 record -- feels very good, sleeping well. No sign of opiate withdrawal.
        Aufz. 29.11.02 -- fühlt sich gut, schläft gut. Keine Entzugserscheinungen.


        11/27/02 record: Abdomen implant well placed Naltrexone implant: continue current treatment, patient sober x 20 days
        Abdomenimplantat gut platziert: weiterführen der aktuellen Behandlung, Patient seit 20 Tagen clean.


        11/26/02 record -- second procedure of Naltrexone 11/27/02 -- no nausea, vomiting, diarrhea
        26.11.02 -- 2. Einsetzen von Naltrexone
        27.11.02 -- keine Übelkeit, Erbrechen, Durchfall



        Michael really wanted to do this, he came back to get the procedure done, Dr. Farshchian said.
        Michael wollte das wirklich, er kam zurück damit wir den Eingriff wiederholten.


        Dr. Farshchian said Michael had a local doctor who didn't know what the patch was and removed it. MJ would itch it, had some skin rash.
        Dr. F. sagte, Michael habe einen Arzt vor Ort gehabt, der nicht wußte um was es sich handelte u. hat es entfernt. Es hätte MJ gejuckt, hatte Hautausschlag.


        11/26/02 record -- ankle wound is better, but he had taken the implant out by a physician at home, wishes to do another implant
        Aufz. 26.11.02 -- Knöchelwunde ist besser, aber er hat sich das Implantat von einem Arzt zu hause entfernen lassen, wünscht ein anderes Implantat.


        Putnam: Parts of his nose were missing? Dr. Farshchian: Portions of his nose were take out Two days later, MJ reported good nights.
        Putnam: Teile seiner Nase waren nicht mehr da?
        Teile aus seiner Nase wurden entfernt. 2 Tage später berichtete MJ über gute Nächte.




        Dr. Farshchian said MJ always had trouble sleeping. "To me his insomnia was caused, possibly, you have this area inside the nose...called turbinates, if you reduced it's called empty nose syndrome, to me that was the cause of that.
        Dr. F. sagte, MJ hatte ständig Schlafprobleme. " Für mich kam diese Schlaflosigkeit möglicherweise von dieser Stelle in der Nase, die Nasenmuschel, wenn man sie verkleinert, nennt man das das "leere Nase Syndrom", für mich war das der Auslöser.


        "MJ was very private with everything," Dr. Farshchian said. At the time, he was complaining of insomnia. He was seeing a herbologist for it.
        "MJ war mit allem sehr diskret/privat," sagte Dr. F. Zu dieser Zeit klagte er über Schlaflosigkeit. Er ging zu einem Herbologisten deswegen.


        Dr. Farshchian said it was a 10 hour production to go from Neverland to Miami. MJ said he was going to see a psychologist.
        MJ sagte, er wollte zu einen Psychologen gehen.


        11/06/02 record -- phone call, states he's doing well tolerating minimum agitation, little insomnia
        6.11.02: Anruf, bestätigt, dass es ihm gut geht, gute Verträglichkeit, etwas Unruhe u. Schlaflosigkeit


        Dr. Farshchian used local anesthesia with lidocaine 1%, done as outpatient in doctor's office in Miami.
        Lokale Anesthäsie mit Lidocaine 1%


        11/04/02 record -- MJ's weight was 128 -- pre-procedure, cut the skin, insert implant chip of Naltrexone.
        Aus der Krankenakte: MJs wiegt 128 -- Vorbereitung, Hautschnitt, Einfügen des Implantates Naltrexone.


        Dr. Farshchian said MJ was adamant about not going to rehab facility. He was concerned about his privacy and paparazzi.
        Dr. F. sage, MJ sei sehr hartnäckig abgelehnt in eine Reha zu gehen. Er war besorgt über seine Privatsphäre u. die Paparazzi.

        Record: He does not wish to go to an outpatient rehab facility despite the pressure from family. Discussed with him option of Naltrexone
        Aus der Krankenakte: Er wollte nicht in eine Reha-Einrichtung gehen, trotz Druck von der Familie. Diskutierte mit ihm die Möglichkeit von Naltrexone.


        10/20/02 record -- patient states he need some help him with his addiction problem.
        Bericht 20.10.02 -- Patient bestätigt, er brauche Hilfe bei seinem Abhängigkeitsproblem.


        MJ had some sort of infection on his leg, he was going to Germany at the time, so Dr Farshchian went with him for treatment of his condition
        MJ hatte eine Infektion an seinem Bein, er war dabei nach Deutschland zu gehen, Dr. F. ging mit ihm zur Behandlung seines Leidens.


        7/21/02 record -- sent more information about Buprenex, since did not get any respond (sic) from him and his attempt to intervene
        aus der Krankenakte 21.7.02 -- Informationen über Bubrenex gegeben, keine Antwort von ihm erhalten...


        Dr. Farshchian: It's usually placed in the abdomen lower than belly button, right or left side, and removed after 90 days.


        Dr. Farshchian said MJ's skin would have allergy from the patch, he wouldn't be very comfortable with it.
        Dr. F. sagte, MJs Haut reagierte allergisch, er vertrug es nicht so gut.


        The doctor said carrying an implant in you, you carry a risk of infection. That could be a reason they don't do it that much.
        Der Arzt sagte, ein solches Implantat in sich zu tragen, erhöhe das Risiko einer Infektion. Das mag ein Grund dafür sein, dass man es nicht so oft macht.


        Dr. Farshchian: The implant, back then it was more popular, not doing as much anymore.
        Dr. F. : Das Implantat war damals viel populärer, jetzt wird es nicht mehr so oft eingesetzt.

        MJ had patch implanted 5 times. Dr. Farshchian said in training in family medicine, he learned about psychiatry and drug dependency.
        MJ bekam 5 x diese Implantate.


        Dr. Farshchian said he implanted more than one patch of the drug in MJ. It normally lasts 60-90 days in the body.
        Dr. F. sagte, er implantierte mehr als ein Stück des Medikamentes. Es bleibt normalerweise 60-90 Tage im Körper.


        I chose Naltrexone, Dr. Fashchian testified. The drug inhibits the effects of the narcotics, if you take it it stops giving you the euphoria
        Ich wählte Naltrexone. Das Medikament verhindert die Effekte von Narkotika, es stoppt die euphorisierende Wirkung.


        Dr. Farshchian: To treat Michael for that problem, I thought that because he travelled quite a bit he needed something to be on him.


        Putnam: Did he seek treatment with you? Dr. Farshchian: Eventually



        Putnam: Did MJ tell you he was addicted to Demerol? Dr. Farshchian: Not in certain words
        Putnam: Sagte MJ ihnen, dass er von Demerol abhängig war?
        Nein, nicht konkret.



        Dr Farshchian: When I got to know him I visited him at the hotel, read a little about him on the internet, then realized was ongoing problem
        Als ich ihn besser kennenlernen wollte, besuchte ich ihn im Hotel, las über ihn im Internet, lernte dann über sein Probleme.


        At that time, Dr. Farshchian said he wasn't following MJ on the media. At that point, to me he was just a regular patient.
        Dr. F. sagte, zu dieser Zeit habe er MJ nicht in den Medien verfolgt. Zu dieser Zeit war er für mich wie ein ganz normaler Patient.


        Dr. Farshchian said MJ's main concern was his kids, always his kids, I'd do for my kids, and to spend more time with his kids.
        Dr. F. sage, MJs Hauptsorge seien seine Kinder gewesen, immer seine Kinder. Ich werde es für meine Kinder tun u. um mehr Zeit mit ihnen zu verbringen.


        "He was trying to get off Demerol," Dr. Farshchian said. MJ told him he had a problem with the drug.
        "Er wollte von Demerol loskommen,". MJ erzählte ihm, dass er ein Problem damit habe.


        Putnam: Do you remember the first time he told you he wanted to clean himself up from drugs?


        Putnam asked if MJ wanted to get off drugs, if that happened at the hotel in a second meeting with the doctor. He said yes.
        Putnam fragte, ob MJ von den Medis wegkommen wollte, ob es das war, warum sie sich ein 2. Mal im Hotel trafen. Er sagte ja.


        "He made an appointment like everybody else," Dr. Farshchian said.
        "Er machte einen Termin bei mir, wieder jeder andere auch."


        Dr. Farshchian: And he had an ankle issue that was more like a sprained ankle that was not healing and he had to continue to dance on it.
        Dr. Farshchian said MJ was having an issue with his ankle, he was supposed to performed at Madison Square Garden, had to rehearse.
        Dr. F. sagte, MJ habe Probleme mit seinem Fußgelenk gehabt, er sollte im MSG auftreten u. mußte proben.
        Die Fußgelenkprobleme seien ähnlich eines verstauchten Fußes, der nicht heilen wollte, er mußte trotzdem damit tanzen.



        Dr. Farshchian treated MJ in April 2001 and stopped in 2003. 'I was one of his doctors," he said.
        Dr. F. behandelte MJ von April 2001 bis 2003. "Ich war einer seiner Ärzte," sagte er.

        Dr. Farshchian is not board certified. Center for Regenerative Medicine is his practice in Florida. He's the medical director.

        He then did residency in internal medicine and family medicine, went to private practice.

        He went to medical school in Saint Lucia in 1987. After that he did cardiac research at SUNY in Brooklyn. He did that for 3-4 years.

        Deposition was in August 2012. Marvin Putnam did the questioning. Dr. Farshchian went to Rutger's University, graduated in 1983 with pre-med
        Zuletzt geändert von Christine3110; 25.07.2013, 13:58.

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        • Spectator banned from Jackson trial over photo.LikeANTHONY McCARTNEY 9 hours ago
          SocietyMichael Jackson.LOS ANGELES (AP) — A spectator attending the civil trial over Michael Jackson's death was banned Wednesday by a judge after he snapped a photo in a courthouse hallway that included jurors hearing the case.

          Earlier on Wednesday, jurors watched the videotaped testimony of a physician who said he treated the late singer to help him stop taking Demerol.

          Bailiffs confiscated William Wagener's cellphone and ordered him to return on Thursday to find out whether the ban will remain in place or other disciplinary actions will be taken.

          Wagener said he inadvertently snapped the photo on his smartphone while riding an escalator. He cooperated with bailiffs to retrieve the photo and said he did not send it to anyone.

          The photo is the latest incident that has raised concerns about the security around jurors hearing the negligence case filed by Jackson's mother against AEG Live LLC. Two alternate jurors were approached by a woman last month who told them not to award any money to the Jackson family.

          In recent days, tiny windows on the courtroom door were blocked after jurors reported seeing someone press a camera to the window and snap a photo during the proceedings. Videotaping and photography in the courthouse are banned without a court order, and a judge blocked a request by news outlets to broadcast the trial.

          Bailiffs or a court clerk give daily reminders of the courtroom's rules, which include a ban on any transmissions from inside the trial or loud outbursts during the testimony.

          Wagener, 67, said he posts updates on the trial on Facebook and YouTube and has sold rights to videos he made during Jackson's 2005 criminal trial. He said if he's banned from the trial, it will hurt his ability to cover the case. He said being in the courtroom is the only way to hear the inflection of lawyers and witnesses and get a full sense of the proceedings.

          Earlier, in a videotaped testimony, one of Jackson's former physicians described how in 2002 he placed an implant in Jackson's abdomen to block the effects of opioid medications such as Demerol.
          Vorher in einem videoaufgezeichneten Zeugnis, beschrieb ein ehemaliger Arzt Jacksons, wie er ihm 2002 ein Implantat den Bauch setzte, um die Auswirkungen der Medikamente wvon Opioiden wie Demerol zu blockieren.


          Dr. Alimorad Farschcian said Jackson told him that he wanted to stop taking Demerol for the sake of his children. The Miami-based physician became close to the entertainer after treating him for a sprained ankle, spending time at Neverland Ranch and meeting Jackson's mother on Christmas Day in 2002.
          Dr. Alimorad Farschcian sagte Jackson sagte ihm, dass er die Einnahme von Demerol zum Wohle seiner Kinder stoppen wollte. Der in Miami ansässige Arzt kam dem Entertainer nahe bei der Behandlung ihn für einen verstauchten Knöchel, verbrachte Zeit auf der Neverland Ranch und traf Jacksons Mutter am Weihnachtstag im Jahr 2002.



          Farschcian said the implant kept the singer off of Demerol for at least nine months and Jackson's mother Katherine seemed pleased when he described it to her and her son showed her the device.
          Farschcian sagte das Implantat hielt den Sängerin von Demerol ab für mindestens neun Monate und Jacksons Mutter Katherine schien erfreut als er es beschrieb und ihr Sohn zeigte ihr das Implantat.

          Katherine Jackson testified on Monday that she never saw the device and could never prove her son abused prescription medications.
          Katherine Jackson sagte am Montag, dass sie nie das Implantat sah und sei konnte nie beweisen, dass ihr Sohn verschreibungspflichtige Medikamente missbrauchte.


          The Jackson family matriarch is suing AEG Live, claiming it negligently hired another doctor, Conrad Murray, who was convicted of administering Jackson a fatal dose of anesthetic in 2009. No trace of Demerol was found in Jackson's system when he died.

          AEG Live denies it hired Murray, and its attorneys have said Jackson hid his addiction struggles, and the company bears no responsibility for his death.

          Superior Court Judge Yvette Palazuelos said she would consult with another judge about how to handle Wagener and the photo of jurors.

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          Anthony McCartney can be reached at http://twitter.com/mccartneyAP


          Zudem besagt der Artikel noch, dass der Prozessbeobachter Wagner unerlaubt ein Foto von der Jury nahm und daher gestern vom Gericht verwiesen wurde. Er muss heute wiederkommen, wenn das Gericht entschieden hat was für disziplinar. Maßnahmen gegen ihn ergriffen werden.


          Zuletzt geändert von Lena; 25.07.2013, 18:56.

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          • Und ein weiterer Artikel zur Farschian-Aussage. Übersetzung hier von @Maja5809 übernommen.


            Katherine Jackson knew about son's drug issues, doctor says -exclusive

            Katherine wußte über den Medikamentengebrauch ihres Sohnes, sagt ein Doc -

            http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?sectio…article-9184234

            LOS ANGELES (KABC) -- There's a major development in the Michael Jackson wrongful death trial regarding the singer's use of drugs. Newly revealed testimony appears to contradict the recent testimony of Jackson's mother, who claimed to have no knowledge of her son's past addiction.

            Jurors heard the most explicit details yet of Jackson's treatment for addiction. It was 2002, seven years before Jackson's death from the anesthetic propofol. Jackson's youngest son had just been born. Dr. Alimorad Farschian said Jackson wanted off of the painkiller demerol.
            Vor 7 Jahren, als Blanket gerade geboren war, sagt Dr. Farschian, dass Jackson vom Schmerzmittel Demerol weg wollte.

            "Blanket was just born and that was Why he wanted to, what he phrased, 'a monkey on his back,' he wanted to just not deal with it anymore," Farschian said in a video deposition.
            In the video, Farschian states Jackson's family was pressuring the artist. The doctor's statement conflicts with the testimony of Katherine Jackson, who said under oath that she had no personal knowledge that her son struggled with dependency. The doctor said he talked to her directly about the singer's detox treatment.
            "I think she wanted to know all about it, what was going on," said Farschian.

            „Blanket war gerade geboren, und deshalb wollte er das, was er als „a monkey on his back“ beschrieb (das heisst „etwas an den Nagel hängen“, oder auch „eine Manie haben“) Er wollte einfach nichts mehr damit zu tun haben." sagt Farschian in seiner Vid-Deposition.
            Im video sagt Farschian, Jacksons Familie setzte den Künstler unter Druck. Das Statement des Docs widerspricht der Aussage Katherines, die unter Eid sagte, dass sie persönlich keine Kenntnis darüber hatte, dass ihr Sohn an einer Abhängigkeit litt. Der Arzt sagt, er habe direkt mit ihr über die Entgiftung des Sängers gesprochen.
            “Ich denke, sie wollte alles darüber wissen, was gemacht wurde,“ sagt Farschian.


            Farschian described implanting Michael Jackson with a type of demoral antidote. Naltrexone, also known as narcane, is a tiny tube inserted under the skin to block the euphoric effect of opiates. The doctor said he implanted Jackson five times over nine months and that he personally witnessed Mrs. Jackson examining her son's incision.
            "I remember that was in Neverland. Michael did show the implant to his mother. Just his mother was there. She was very happy," said Farschian.

            Farschian beschreibt, dass er MJ eine Art Demerol-Antidot implantierte. Naltrexone, auch Narcan genannt. Es ist ein kleines Röhrchen, das unter die Haut gepflanzt wird, um den euphorisierenden Effekt des Opiates zu blockieren. Der Doc sagt, er implantierte MJ 5 mal über 9 Monate und dass er persönlich sah, das Katherine die Wunde ihres Sohnes untersuchte.
            "Ich erinnere mich, dass ich auf Neverland war. Michael zeigte das Implant seiner Mutter. Es war nur seine Mutter da. Sie war sehr froh." sagt Farschian


            Katherine Jackson is suing AEG Live, alleging that the tour promoters hired and failed to supervise Conrad Murray, the physician linked to the singer's propofol overdose. Her attorneys assert that Jackson's health was deteriorating from anxiety and sleep deprivation in the two months before his death.
            Jurors heard from Farschian that Jackson suffered from insomnia years earlier. The doctor's theory is that it was linked to cosmetic surgery: a key part of Jacksons nose was missing.
            "It is possible that you produce what they call empty nose syndrome and producing insomnia," said Farschian.

            Zu MJs Schlaflosigkeit äussert Farschian noch die Theorie, das es mit kosmetischen Ops zusammenhängen könne: ein wichtiger Teil der Nase fehlte. „Es ist möglich, dass man das bekommt was man „empty nose syndrom“ nennt und Schlaflosigkeit auslöst.“ sagt Farschian.

            http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empty_Nose_Syndrome

            About the plaintiffs claim that Jackson was emaciated, the autopsy recorded he was 136 pounds when he died. Farschian testified that Jackson weighed 128 when he treated him.
            Darüber, dass Mj bei der Autopsie 136 pfund wog sagt Farschian, dass Jackson 128 Pfund wog, als er ihn behandelte.

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            • Jacksons vs AEG - Day 53 – July 22 2013 – Summary

              Katherine Jackson Testimony


              AEG Cross


              Putnam explained to Mrs. Jackson about the discovery process, where both sides have to exchange documents related to the case. (ABC7)

              Putnam asked two lines of questions _ about how she came to file the lawsuit and what documents she turned over in discovery. Putnam asked whether Katherine Jackson turned over emails or records of her son’s payments to her. She said no. Katherine Jackson’s attorney Brian Panish objected to the questions, but the judge allowed them. Panish said Mrs. Jackson doesn’t use email. Mrs. Jackson said her son paid for most of her expenses directly. He gave her cash, but she didn’t keep records of it. Putnam asked about Mrs. Jackson’s assistant, Janice Smith, questioning whether she logged payments from MJ. Answer was no. Katherine Jackson: “My son took care of me. He paid for everything. Food. Shelter. Clothing.” (AP)

              Mrs. Jackson said MJ would give her money in cash, but she would not write down the amounts. The matriarch has a secretary, Janice Smith, who works for her for anywhere between 15-20 years. She has an office in Encino, CA (ABC7)

              Putnam asking about the house in Gary, Indiana. It's been 44 years since she left and moved in to the Hayvenhurst house. Mrs. Jackson lives now in a gated community in Calabasas. Hayvenhurst house is under renovation. (ABC7)

              At times her anger toward AEG attorney Marvin Putnam flared, and she refused to answer some questions. Putnam tried to parry with her at least once. She had a hard time recalling how long her assistant had worked for her but corrected Putnam over how long it had been since she had lived in Gary, Indiana. After a small portion of her deposition was shown to the jury, her temper erupted.“Why are you doing this to me?" she asked. "You’re asking me the same question 50 times, but you’re just rephrasing them." (LaTimes)

              . "It was a gift," Mrs. Jackson said about the money she received from Michael. Putnam asked if she reported/recorded anywhere. "My son took care of me, food, shelter, clothes," Mrs. Jackson explained. "When he gave me cash, it was a gift, I didn't think I needed to report to anyone," Mrs. Jackson said. Putnam asked again if there was any record of the money MJ gave her. She replied she didn't think she needed to. (ABC7)

              Putnam asked if Mrs. Jackson had a bank account back in 2010 when she filed her lawsuit. She said she doesn't recall. (ABC7)

              Regarding Michael having money problems, Mrs. Jackson said : "My son made a lot of money, he had people working for him."
              Putnam: Where you aware MJ was having financial difficulties when he passed away? Mrs. Jackson: Yes, I've heard from some people
              "They have been saying it for 15 years," Mrs. Jackson said. "People were taking money from him also, stealing I should say."
              Mrs. Jackson testified she heard stories about it. Putnam: Who did you hear that from? Mrs. Jackson: Just different people
              She also said MJ told her too that people were making deals on his behalf.
              "They were being offered money under the table, that's what I heard from my son," Mrs. Jackson testified. And Mrs. Jackson asked: "What does this have to do with the death of my son?"
              Putnam: You heard about MJ having money problems? Mrs. Jackson: I heard for years Michael Jackson was broken and he wasn't
              Putnam: Did you ever ask MJ about having money problems? Mrs. Jackson: No, because I didn't believe it. Because he wasn't. (ABC7)

              Putnam also asked Katherine Jackson about her son's payments to her over the years. She said he directly paid many of the expenses on her home and would occasionally give her cash as a gift. Katherine Jackson said she didn't keep track of the payments and appeared to grow annoyed at the questions. "What does this have to do with the death of my son," she asked Putnam. (AP) Putnam asked Mrs. Jackson whether she was aware of her son’s financial difficulties before his death. She said yes. Katherine Jackson: "They’ve been saying for years, last 15 years that Michael Jackson is broke." She said she knew that wasn't true. (AP)

              Putnam asked several more questions about what Katherine Jackson knew about her son Michael’s financial situation. There were objections. At one point, Mrs. Jackson told Puntam, “I think I answered that.” Judge allowed multiple questions about what she knew of MJ’s finances. Katherine Jackson said she was aware of people trying to make deals on her son’s behalf. She said her son would sometimes tell her about it. She said through the years, she heard about people taking money from her son. “Stealing, I should say.” Putnam again asked about the stories she’d heard. “I’d heard for years that Michael Jackson was broke, and he wasn’t,” she said. Katherine Jackson said she never discussed it with her son because she knew he wasn’t broke. (AP)

              "I don't want to get into this," she said when asked about her superstar son's finances. The lawyer for AEG Live reminded Katherine that it was his job to ask questions because she wants a mountain of money for the claim AEG negligently hired Dr. Conrad Murray, the personal physican now serving four years for overdosing her son. (NYDailyNews)

              Putnam asked about the damages Mrs. Jackson asked for in her lawsuit. MJ's mother responded that he could ask her attorneys about it. (ABC7) Putnam then asked Mrs. Jackson about the amount of damages she was seeking from AEG Live. “You can talk to my lawyer about that,” Katherine Jackson said of the damages estimates. Putnam cited figure of $1.5-$1.7 billion. Panish objected and said it was improper to ask Katherine Jackson about the estimates. The attorneys went into a sidebar with the judge. When they returned, Putnam asked about Mrs. Jackson whether she’d heard about various claims of damages. She said yes. (AP) Putnam asked if Mrs. Jackson has been here most of the days over the past 12 weeks. (ABC7)

              That’s when Putnam asked Mrs. Jackson whether she thought her son bore any responsibility for his death. “No, I don’t,” she replied. Putnam asked Mrs. Jackson if she agreed that she never believed her son was responsible for his death. “Correct,” she replied. (AP)

              Putnam: Do you believe that your son is in any way responsible for his passing? Mrs. Jackson: No I don't
              Putnam: You never believed your son had any part in his own death? Mrs. Jackson: Correct!
              Putnam: Do you believe your son MJ knew Dr. Murray was giving him Propofol? Panish: Objection, calls for speculation
              Putnam: Do you remember MJ asking for Propofol? Panish: Calls for hearsay response
              Putnam: Did you hear from the criminal trial that your son asked Dr. Murray to give him Propofol? Mrs. Jackson: I have heard
              Mrs. Jackson said she had not heard that MJ asked other doctors for Propofol. Putnam asked if that came to a surprise for her. She said yes. "Conrad Murray, even if he asked, he could've said no," Mrs. Jackson opined. (ABC7) Katherine Jackson said she believes AEG Live hired Murray, not her son. She said she never heard of the cardiologist until her son died, and indicated that she felt Murray bore responsibility for her son's death."Even though he asked for it, he could have said no," Katherine Jackson said of Murray. (AP)

              Putnam asked about Murray’s criminal case, and whether Mrs. Jackson helped the prosecutor, David Walgren. She said she didn’t remember. (AP) When questioned by AEG lead counsel Marvin Putnam, she "did not remember" if she attended Murray's manslaughter trial and assisted the prosecution in that case. (NBC)

              The lawyer asked about what Mrs. Jackson recalled hearing during the criminal trial about her son’s use of propofol. She said she remembered hearing about him asking for the drug, but she didn’t recall testimony about him discussing it with other doctors. Katherine Jackson had her head down during some of the questions. “Even though he asked for it, he could have said no,” she said of Murray. (AP)

              Putnam: Do you believe your son hired Dr. Murray? Mrs. Jackson: No I don't
              Putnam: You heard testimony MJ hired Dr. Murray in Las Vegas? Mrs Jackson: He had doctors for his children, I don't know if it was Dr Murray
              Putnam asked if MJ ever paid Dr. Murray. She answered it was to treat the children.
              Putnam asked if she heard testimony from Prince saying he would give Dr. Murray stacks of money in a rubber band.
              "He didn't say stacks, he measure with his fingers," Mrs. Jackson explained.
              Mrs. Jackson said she doesn't believe that MJ hired Dr. Murray because of what she's been listening here in court. She said from hearing the emails, AEG said they had hired him and that Randy Phillips went on TV saying they hired him.
              Mrs. Jackson: I had heard they had hired and there was the doctor there so I thought MJ had hired him, not knowing the facts. (ABC7)

              Putnam asked how she remembers it when she said her memory wasn't very good. "I didn't say I didn't remember anything, I said I'm 83, I would 't remember everything," Mrs. Jackson responded. Mrs Jackson said that's all that's been talked about in the trial and that she remembers emails, Phillips' interview saying AEG hired Murray (ABC7) Despite the fact that she is “83-year-old and may not remember everything clearly,” Katherine testified that she distinctly remembers that AEG hired Murray--not her son. (NBC) Katherine also said she did not know that her son used Propofol and that he gave Murray money "because he felt bad for [him] because he didn't have no money--not because he had hired him." She had no idea the doctor spent six nights a week at her son's home. (NBC)

              Putnam then asked Mrs. Jackson whether she believed her son hired Conrad Murray. She said she didn’t think he hired the doctor. She said she knew her son had doctors for his children. She said she didn’t know if that was Murray or not. Putnam asked about Prince Jackson’s testimony that he’d given Murray money that his father handed him. Putnam called it “stacks of hundreds” Katherine Jackson corrected him, saying it wasn’t stacks. She said the money was because her son felt bad for the doctor. Putnam asked Mrs. Jackson whether she knew about the payments to Murray before the trial. She said no. Putnam then asked her about an instance in which Mrs. Jackson said she thought her son Michael hired Conrad Murray. Katherine Jackson: “I may have said it once and you’ll probably bring that up.” (Her statement was during a Dateline interview.) Putnam wants to play the Dateline interview, but Panish objected, saying he hadn’t seen it. Judge told Putnam to hold off on playing the Dateline interview for the jury until it could be reviewed. Katherine Jackson said he now understood that AEG Live had hired Murray, but she hadn’t heard that before. “At the time I hadn’t heard it,” Katherine Jackson said. “I thought that maybe Michael had hired him. I said it not knowing the facts.” Putnam indicated the Dateline interview was done 8 weeks before Katherine Jackson filed her lawsuit in September 2010. (AP)

              Putnam: Do you recall why you said your son hired the doctor and that your son could've prevented his own death?
              "I don't think he could've prevented his own death," Mrs. Jackson testified. "I just said I thought he hired the doctor. I do recall that."
              Mrs. Jackson said she can't recall exactly what was said in the Dateline interview, but she does remember saying MJ hired the doctor. (ABC7)

              Mrs. Jackson said she had not heard about Dr. Murray prior to MJ's death. Her son did not discuss what treatments he was having with her.
              Putnam: Prior to your son's death, did you know your son had a doctor spending the night at the house? Mrs. Jackson: No
              Putnam: Did you ever have conversation with your grandchildren prior to trial about the doctor spending the night at the house? She said no
              Putnam asked if Prince testified a doctor was spending the nights at the house. Mrs. Jackson: I don't remember him saying that
              Putnam: Do you remember him (Prince) saying he (the doctor) spent 6 nights a week? Mrs. Jackson: No, I don't remember that (ABC7)
              Putnam also grilled Katherine on the timing of her lawsuit, which was filed a year before Murray's 2011 criminal trial. "Prior to the trial...did you ever talk to your grandchildren about the fact that Dr. Murray treated Michael Jackson upstairs in a bedroom behind locked doors," Putnam asked. "No," she replied. "Mrs. Jackson, you do believe that Dr. Conrad Murray has some responsibility for your son's death, do you not?" he asked. "Of course," she said. (NYDailyNews)

              Putnam asked Mrs. Jackson whether she knew that Conrad Murray was staying at her son’s mansion 6 nights a week in 2009. She said she didn’t know anything about her son’s doctors. Putnam asked if she discussed with her grandchildren, and she said no. Katherine Jackson’s brow was furrowed through this questioning. Panish objected, saying Putnam was trying to get into attorney-client issues. Putnam was allowed to question her about her knowledge of Murray’s doctor visits, as long as Mrs. Jackson didn’t relay any info that she received from conversations with her attorneys. (AP)

              Putnam asked Mrs. Jackson's search for the truth and if she thought it would be important to know whether the doctor spending the nights. "It would've been important but I told you I didn't talk to my grandchildren about that," Mrs. Jackson responded. Putnam asked if Mrs. Jackson talked to her grandchildren about Dr. Murray treating MJ in a locked, upstairs bedroom. She answered no. (ABC7)

              Putnam: You do believe Dr. Murray has some responsibility for your son's death? Mrs. Jackson: Of course
              Putnam asked Mrs. Jackson if Dr. Murray was convicted in the criminal trial. She said yes.
              He asked if the doctor is now in jail. "I hope he is," she responded. (ABC7)

              Putnam inquired about Mrs. Jackson asking the District Attorney to drop the $100 million restitution against Dr. Murray. Mrs. Jackson said yes, that Dr. Murray has children and has no money. "Because I felt his children needed him to take care of them," she explained. "He didn't have any money."
              Putnam: You asked the DA to drop the $100 million restitution claim against Dr. Murray?
              Mrs. Jackson: I asked them to drop it because of his children, he has quite a few children, 7 or 8, I don't know.
              Mrs. Jackson said she believes the DA may have dropped the $100 million restitution claim.
              Putnam: Did you drop the restitution claim so you could file this lawsuit? Mrs. Jackson: No (ABC7)

              She said she asked prosecutors to drop a $100 million restitution claim against Murray because he has several children. "His money should go to the children," she said. (AP) Going back to updates from the morning session. Putnam asked Mrs. Jackson about dropping the $100 million restitution claim against Murray. Mrs. Jackson said, “I felt that his children needed it.” She mentioned she knew Murray had 7 or 8 children. Putnam questioned whether the decision was made in consideration of the civil case. Mrs. Jackson said no. “I never gave it a thought.” (AP)

              The lawyer then asked whether Mrs. Jackson ever saw her son when she thought he was under the influence of any drug. She said no. (AP) Putnam asked if Mrs. Jackson ever saw MJ under the influence of any drug. She said no, that it's something she never saw during his lifetime.She would show up at the house unannounced and said she never saw her son "loopy".
              Putnam: Did you ever speak with your son on the phone when he was out of it? Mrs. Jackson: No. Out of what?
              Putnam asked if Mrs. Jackson's children told her MJ was under the influence of something. She said yes.
              "A couple of children came to me and told me they had heard about it," Mrs. Jackson said. She had conversation w/ MJ about it in Las Vegas. (ABC7)

              She provoked laughter when answering a question about whether her son had ever seemed "out of it" when she spoke to him on the phone. "Out of what?" she said, before Putnam explained the meaning of the phrase. (AFP)

              Putnam asked Mrs. Jackson is she remembers her son's criminal trial in 2005. She said yes, and that she attended the trial every day. Putnam inquired if MJ left the country after the trial. She said yes. When MJ came back he lived in Las Vegas never lived in Neverland again. Mrs. Jackson spoke with Michael about what she heard of him using prescription drugs. "I've heard that something had happened to him," Mrs. Jackson described. (ABC7)

              Putnam: When you said that, he denied it, right? Mrs. Jackson: Yes he did"I was his mother, I imagined he'd deny it," Mrs. Jackson explained. "No child is going to admit it, if I heard something bad about them." Mrs. Jackson said she didn't know MJ was taking pain pills, she couldn't prove it, that's what she had heard. Mrs. Jackson: It didn't surprise me, I'm the mother, he would not want his mother to worry about him. Putnam: If you knew your son was going to deny it, why did you ask him? Mrs. Jackson: I'm not answering that question. Because to me it doesn't make sense. I didn't know he was going to deny it. "It's because he didn't want me to worry," Mrs. Jackson said. "I just talked to him about it." Mrs. Jackson to Putnam: I don't think it's that serious that you have to drill it like that on me. Mrs. Jackson: My child, he respected his mother he didn't want to hurt if it was bad.Putnam: He wasn't a child but 50 years old? Mrs Jackson: He was still my child, I'm still his mother and he wants to hold his respect for me.Mrs. Jackson: You're just trying to confuse me so that you can come back with something. Mrs. Jackson: You do understand (the answer) and you keep asking the same question. (ABC7)

              Putnam continued to ask a series of questions about Jackson’s prescription drug use and his denials. Putnam: “If you knew your son was going to deny it, why did you ask him?”
              Mrs. Jackson: “I’m not answering that question.”
              Putnam: “Why?”
              “To me, it doesn’t make sense,” Katherine Jackson said. “I didn’t know he was going to deny it. But he did it.”
              After a few more questions, Mrs. Jackson told Putnam she didn’t have to either “drill me” or “grill me” like this. She likened her son’s denial to a young child who went out and disobeyed his mother and then denied it. “I’m sure you understand,” she said. “He respects his mother, he don’t want her to think that he’s doing something that bad,” Mrs. Jackson said. “He’s still my child,” she replied. She added, “He’d still want me to hold his respect.” (AP)

              There were more questions about Michael Jackson’s prescription drug use. Putnam said he was trying to understand the testimony. “You keep asking the same questions and I’ve answered it,” Mrs. Jackson said. Putnam asked if there was ever a time she believed her son was abusing prescription meds. “No,” she said. “I knew he was taking it. I didn’t think he was abusing it,” Katherine Jackson said about her son Michael's prescription drug use. (AP)

              The attorney also asked about Katherine Jackson about conversations she had with her son about prescription drug use. She said she asked him about it when he lived in Las Vegas and he denied he was abusing prescription medications. "I'm a mother, quite naturally he denied it," she said. "He wouldn't want me to think that." She said she was aware her son took medications for pain in his back and scalp after he sustained injuries over his career. She said she never saw signs that her son was abusing medications, including when she and several of her children went to the singer's Neverland Ranch for an intervention. Her son was fine but upset that they thought he had a problem.(AP) He also quizzed her at length about a family "intervention" in 2002, when she and various children including Janet and Rebbie went to confront Jackson about his reported drug problems at his Neverland ranch. But the confrontation came to nothing, she said, after the singer appeared upset when he realized why they were there. "We just saw that he was okay and he was upset, so we didn't talk about it," she said. (AFP)

              Katherine also recalled joining her daughter Janet and other relatives for a surprise intervention at Neverland Ranch in 2002. She said Michael was upset by the intrusion and appeared to be sober. "There were no deep discussion or anything like that. When we got there, he was okay, he was upset," she recalled. "It was kind of embarassing." (NYDailyNews)

              Asked about reports that she and her other children had staged an intervention effort at Michael’s Neverland Ranch in Santa Barbara County in 2002, Katherine Jackson testified that her son didn't know why his family had driven there and made it sound as if the visit had turned into a social gathering.“We just saw he was OK and was upset, and ... there was no deep discussion or anything," she said under questioning.She said that neither she nor her other children questioned the singer about his use of prescription medication. (LAtimes)

              Mrs. Jackson was asked about the 2002 intervention attempt at Neverland Ranch. Mrs. Jackson said her son was fine. “When we got there, there was nothing wrong with him,” Mrs. Jackson said. She said he was upset that his family came for an intervention, but there wasn't any “deep discussion” about it. Putnam asked about Katherine Jackson’s deposition, when she recalled her son saying, “’I’m not on it.’” Today, Katherine Jackson said she didn’t recall whether he said that phrase or not. “I wasn’t trying to lie,” she said. “I was just tired of you,” Katherine Jackson said of Putnam. Mrs. Jackson said she recalled Putnam “asking me the same question about 50 times and rephrasing them differently.” (AP)

              Testifying for the second day in her family's wrongful-death suit against entertainment giant AEG Live, the family matriarch said the conversation occurred as she was getting ready to leave her son's house in Las Vegas, where Michael Jackson lived from 2006 to 2008. She said she told Michael that she had heard he was using prescription drugs and that she didn't want him to end up "like all the others." On the stand Monday, Katherine Jackson said she knew her son was using prescription pain pills for burns he suffered to his scalp during the filming of a Pepsi commercial and for a back injury and said that she figured he would deny any drug abuse because he didn't want her to worry. "If a child goes out to play and does something real ugly, and a parent asks them about it, he’s gong to deny it,” she said.
              “If you knew your son was gong to deny it, why did you ask him?” Putnam asked. “I’m not answering that question ... because to me it doesn’t make sense," Jackson said."I didn't know he was gong to deny it, but he did.” (LAtimes)

              Katherine Jackson said he denied abusing pain pills during their one and only private conversation on the topic in Las Vegas. The famous music matriarch lost her cool when a lawyer for the concert promoter she's suing for more than $1 billion asked her repeatedly about the date and details of the mother-son meeting in Vegas. "I'm not answering that question," she shot back at one query she felt "didn't make sense." She then accused the lawyer of intentionally trying to trap over the exact wording of the confrontation. "You're just getting me confused so you'll have something to come back on," the 83-year-old said sternly. (NYDailyNews)

              Mrs. Jackson mentioned that her other children told her they believed Michael Jackson had a problem with prescription meds. Putnam then asked about Mrs. Jackson’s conversation with her son in Las Vegas regarding his prescription drug use. Katherine Jackson said she and her son stepped into a theater at the home that was near the front door and talked about it. She said she asked him about his prescription medication use. Mrs. Jackson said her son denied he had a problem. Katherine Jackson: “I’m a mother, quite naturally he denied it. He wouldn't want me to think that.” (AP)

              Putnam: Has there ever been a time you believe your son was abusing prescription drugs? Mrs. Jackson: No
              "I believe he was taking it, but I don't believe he was abusing it" Mrs Jackson said. "I just asked him the question, I wanted to make sure". Even tough Mrs. Jackson didn't believe MJ was abusing prescription drugs she was part of an intervention at Neverland. She doesn't remember all the siblings present, but probably Janet, Rebbie and Randy were there. She said there was a person who came along that Janet brought specialized in intervention. Putnam: Do you recall this taking place in 2002? Mrs. Jackson: Yes Mrs. Jackson said she doesn't believe MJ knew why they were there. Putnam asked if MJ was mad they came for an intervention. Mrs. Jackson: Yes, because when we got there, there was nothing wrong with him"We asked if he was okay, he got upset and we didn't talk about it," Mrs. Jackson explained. "He didn't deny anything, he was ok," Mrs. Jackson said. There was no deep discussion, we got there and he was ok, he was upset." Mrs. Jackson: It was kind of embarrassing, because they didn't see anything. Putnam asked if Mrs. Jackson saw him upset. "If I said he was upset, I did see it," she responded. Putnam: After he got upset, did he say to you "I'm not on it, I'm not on anything?" Mrs. Jackson: He didn't say that.Putnam played part of Mrs. Jackson's deposition where she said she knew MJ was upset, by the way he talked, said "I'm not on it," that's all.Putnam asked if at the intervention MJ denied he was on influence of prescription drugs? Mrs. Jackson: To tell you the truth, I don't know.Mrs. Jackson said she was upset with Putnam during deposition. "I was just tired of you asking the same question 50 times in different ways".Putnam: Do you remember in your deposition you didn't know whether to believe your son at all?. "I knew he was on prescription drugs, but he was not abusing it," Mrs. Jackson said. After intervention at Neverland in 2002 Putnam asked if her mind changed about MJ abusing drugs. She said she didn't know one way or another (ABC7)

              Katherine said that she never saw her son under the influence of drugs and never saw him “loopy, or out of it," even on the telephone. But, after her other children told her they believed he was addicted to prescription drugs and Michael denied it to her, she participated in an intervention at the Neverland ranch in 2002. “I knew he was taking them (pain pills) but I didn’t know he was abusing them,” Katherine told the jury. She said Michael was upset when the family staged the intervention "because when we got there, there was nothing wrong with him.” The intervention, she added, didn't really take place because he was upset and yelled at them and she became embarrassed to be there, she testified. (NBC)

              Putnam showed a letter on People Magazine (Sept. 7, 2007) the family sent about MJ not addicted to pain killers and alcohol. Mrs. Jackson: We were not trying to take away the business or anything like that. That's a lie. Mrs. Jackson said she never attempted to take her son's business. Just because it's in the magazine tabloids doesn't make it true, she said."There are lies, these are all lies," Mrs. Jackson said. "We didn't try to take his business away." Tito, Marlon, Jackie, Jermaine, Katherine signed this letter. Putnam asked why she signed it if it wasn't true, she said I wanted it to stop.Mrs. Jackson: As far as the tabloids, I didn't waste my time because I know all they do is to try to make money
              Putnam: Isn't it true your son MJ asked you to sign this? Mrs. Jackson: I don't remember my son asking me to sign this
              Mrs. Jackson said she doesn't' remember MJ being involved in the draft of the letter. She doesn't know who asked her to sign it.
              Putnam showed Mrs. Jackson Randy's deposition saying MJ asked her to sign the letter. She said it doesn't refresh her recollection about it. (ABC7)

              She then was asked about an open letter to the media that she signed in 2007 along with several of Michael's siblings. It denied Michael had a drug problem and any history of a family intervention. "Why would you sign it if it wasn't true?" Putnam asked. "I wanted (to stop) things that weren't true," she said, appearing confused. (NYDailyNews)

              Putnam asked Mrs. Jackson several questions about a letter she and other Jackson family members signed regarding an intervention. The letter was regarding reports about her son’s prescription drug use. I believe it was from 2007. Putnam at one point brought up Randy Jackson’s deposition and asked Mrs. Jackson if she had read any of her children’s depos. She said no. Putnam was able to show Mrs. Jackson her son Randy’s deposition after saying he would call him as a witness later. Depo wasn’t shown to jury (AP)

              AEG's lawyer showed Katherine an open letter to the media she signed and released in 2007 denying there was ever a family intervention and also denying that Michael Jackson was addicted to drugs and alcohol. The lawyer also played a 2010 Oprah interview in which Katherine admitted that Michael was an addict. (AP)

              Putnam asked Mrs. Jackson if she was aware of her son’s statement at the end of the “Dangerous” tour indicating a prescription drug problem. She said she hadn’t heard about it or seen it before it was played in court. She said she didn’t watch much television. Putnam: “Mrs. Jackson on Friday, you mentioned that you shut your ears to bad things. Do you remember saying that?” “I probably said it, but I don’t remember saying it,” Mrs. Jackson said, adding, “I don’t like to hear bad news.” Putnam asked if Mrs. Jackson shut out hearing bad news about her son ending the Dangerous tour. She said she didn't remember how it ended. (AP)

              Putnam: Were you aware your son MJ had gone to rehab before?
              Mrs. Jackson: I had heard that, that Elizabeth Taylor had something to do about drugs but I don't watch television that much.
              Mrs. Jackson: My children probably didn't want me to know about it.
              Mrs. Jackson said she did not discuss with MJ about it and had never heard MJ's 1993 announcement he was going into rehab. MJ's mother said she never heard before tour had been canceled because of MJ's rehab. She said it doesn't mean it wasn't but she didn't know (ABC7)

              On Monday, she seemed unfamiliar with some of the details of Michael’s life. She told the court she didn’t know her son's "Dangerous" tour had come to an early ending in 1993 when Elizabeth Taylor flew to Mexico City to take the singer to a rehab program in London.
              Katherine Jackson testified that she’d she heard that Taylor had said something about her son going into rehab but didn't seem particularly curious about it.“Nobody came to me and said anything about it," she said. "My children probably didn’t want me to worry.”She said she didn't know that her son’s worldwide tour had been cut short. "I don't like to hear bad news," she said. (LATimes)

              Putnam asked about whether she shut her ears to bad things. "I may have said that but I don't remember," Mrs. Jackson responded. Mrs. Jackson: I don't like hearing bad news. (ABC7)

              Putnam asked about the attempted intervention in 2002. He asked about Dr. Farshchian treating MJ's addiction to Demerol. Mrs. Jackson said he doesn't recall Dr. Farshchian and does not recall any phone call with any doctor about MJ's addiction to Demerol. Putnam showed Mrs. Jackson transcript of Dr. Farshchian's deposition and asked if that refreshed her recollection. She said it doesn't. Putnam asked if Dr. Farshchian testified he spoke with her because she wanted to know all the details of her son's Demerol use. "I don't remember who Dr. Farshchian is and I don't remember treating Michael for Demerol," Mrs. Jackson said.
              Putnam: Do you remember testimony about MJ having an implant to treat Demerol? Mrs. Jackson: I don't know anything about that
              Mrs. Jackson said she doesn't remember discussing the implant in 2002. Mrs. Jackson said she does not remember MJ showing her a Narcan patch. (ABC7)

              After the lunch break, Putnam asked about an implant that Michael Jackson apparently had to keep any addiction to Demerol in check. Putnam asked Mrs. Jackson if she ever saw the implant or talked to the doctor who put it in her son. Mrs. Jackson said she didn’t remember. Katherine Jackson said she didn't recall the doctor and didn't remember seeing the implant. She said she would have remembered seeing it. (AP)

              As to Louis Farrakhan -- she met him, but doesn't remember seeing him at Neverland. (ABC7)

              Putnam asked if Mrs Jackson knows there were a number of doctors who testified in this case. She said she didn't know, didn't see deposition (ABC7)

              Putnam asked Mrs. Jackson about a Nov. 2010 interview with Oprah Winfrey. After a few questions, Putnam played the clip. In the clip, she said she was aware her son was taking prescription meds after his Pepsi commercial accident, but it was a long time before she heard he was addicted to them. She also discussed an intervention attempt by her children. Oprah asked Mrs. Jackson about her conversation with her son and asked if she believed his denials. She told Oprah she didn't believe him. In court, Katherine Jackson clarified. “I kind of believed him and I didn't believe him. I didn't know what to believe,” she said. (AP)

              Putnam asked if she recalls sitting down for interview with Oprah Winfrey in the fall of 2010. Mrs. Jackson said yes.Oprah's interview aired about a month after the the lawsuit was filed. She watched it when it aired at the Hayvenhurst house. Putnam: Did you try to tell the truth in that interview? Mrs. Jackson: YesPutnam: You said you believed your son was addicted to drugs? Mrs. Jackson: I told Oprah that.Mrs. Jackson: I told you MJ was on painkillers, but I don't think he was abusing it.In Oprah's interview, Mrs. Jackson said it was a long time before she knew MJ was addicted to painkillers. She also said about the family's attempted intervention: the children told her to take MJ to rehab and kind of clean him up. Mrs. Jackson told Oprah she didn't want to hear MJ had overdosed. MJ kept saying he wasn't on it, and that his own mother didn't believe him.Mrs. Jackson: I kind of believe it and didn't believe it, hearing from my children, hearing from other people. "I didn't know what to believe," Mrs. Jackson said. Mrs. Jackson conceded she denied this morning that her son was abusing drugs. (ABC7)

              Putnam: Do you think your son was abusing painkillers? Mrs. Jackson: I don't know. "I didn't know what to believe," she said. "I went to Neverland because my children kept asking me and I was concerned." Putnam: Was there a time you were concerned with MJ using painkillers? Mrs. Jackson: I can't say I weren't concerned.Putnam: Was there any time during the criminal trial that you were concerned MJ was under the influence of something? Mrs. Jackson: No (ABC7) Putnam asked whether during her son’s criminal trial whether she ever thought her son was on medications. She said no. (AP)

              Katherine Jackson said she never discussed any concerns about her son's medication use with his lawyers or managers. Katherine Jackson said she occasionally talked to Jackson’s managers, including Frank Dileo. She wasn’t thrilled when Dileo came back. “They keep hiring all these people that Michael had fired. That’s what bothered me,” Katherine Jackson said. Putnam asked about the letter her son signed regarding Dileo. She said he told her he was only back in her son’s life for the tour. (AP) Mrs. Jackson said she never discussed with her son's attorneys or managers about her concerns.Mrs. Jackson said she had many conversations with Frank DiLeo and they were all friendly.She remembers answering the phone when Frank DiLeo went back to work for Michael. Mrs. Jackson wanted to know why people kept re-hiring people Michael had fired. Putnam asked if it was someone other than MJ who hired DiLeo. "I think so, Michael didn't want him back," she said. Mrs. Jackson: Michael and DiLeo told me he was back for the This Is It tour. (ABC7)

              Katherine Jackson said she never relayed any concerns about her son’s prescription drug use to anyone at AEG Live. (AP)

              Putnam: Did you tell Mr. DiLeo you were concerned that your son was abusing painkillers? Mrs. Jackson: No, since he had just come back
              Mrs. Jackson said she never told AEG Live or Randy Phillips about MJ having drug problem. (ABC7)

              Mrs. Jackson testified she was receiving money from MJ and also from Janet Jackson. At first, it was not on a monthly basis, but it became that way, Mrs. Jackson explained. Janet sent her $10,000 a month. Mrs. Jackson said she was receiving that amount when MJ died. The money went to her assistant Janice at the office. Mrs. Jackson said she told Janet she didn't have to continue to send her money after MJ died. (ABC7)

              Putnam then asked about financial support Janet Jackson was providing her mom. She was giving $10k a month to support her mother. This money was coming in for several years before Michael Jackson’s death, but Mrs. Jackson said she eventually told her daughter to stop. (AP)

              Jackson redirect


              Putnam ended his questioning, and Panish took over. He asked about Michael’s support. Mrs. Jackson said he was paying for her necessities. (AP)

              In re-direct, Panish asked if before MJ died, was he paying for everything? Mrs. Jackson: Yes, paying for everything
              Panish: Did you rely on him (MJ) for all necessities of life? Mrs. Jackson: Yes (ABC7)

              Panish inquired if Putnam asked during deposition personal question? Mrs. Jackson: Yes, he asked 'did your husband beat you'? (ABC7)

              Panish: Farrakhan and Nation of Islam, does that have anything to do with your son's death? Mrs. Jackson: No P: Were you upset? Mrs. J: Yes (ABC7)

              Panish asked whether Mrs. Jackson used email or a computer. She said she was computer illiterate. He also asked Katherine Jackson if she was a lawyer or a private investigator. The answers were no, obviously. The lawyer asked who she hired to find out the truth about her son’s death. Mrs. Jackson said she hired Panish’s firm. (AP)


              Mrs Jackson said she doesn't know anything about computers, it's not a lawyer or investigator. Her highest level of education is high school. Panish asked what she did to go about this case. "I hired your firm," Mrs. Jackson said. "Why," Panish asked. "I wanted to find out what really happened to my son," Mrs. Jackson responded. (ABC7)

              Phillips and Gongaware never called/send card to Mrs. Jackson after MJ died, Mrs Jackson said. Kenny Ortega went to see her, she said. (ABC7)

              Panish asked about testimony that AEG Live execs Randy Phillips and Paul Gongaware loved her son. She said they never called her to express their condolences. They never sent a card. Mrs. Jackson said Kenny Ortega did come to see her after her son’s death. (AP)
              He asked her about emails that had been displayed in court, ones Panish said she never would have seen if not for the lawsuit. In response several of Panish’s questions, she said she didn't know her son was losing weight or tour workers thought he was deteriorating. “I learned it here in court,” Mrs. Jackson said of the emails, other details about her son’s health. (AP)

              Panish: Did you know your son was sleep-deprived for 60 days? Mrs. Jackson: No, I didn't
              Panish asked if she knew Hougdahl wrote an email to AEG that MJ was deteriorating in front of his eyes? Mrs. Jackson: No
              Mrs. Jackson said she learned about MJ's condition in court, that AEG never told her MJ was deteriorating, paranoia, losing weight, rambling. "The could've called me, he was asking for his father, he was scared, he was asking for Joseph," Mrs. Jackson said, crying. (ABC7)

              “They could have called me,” Mrs. Jackson said. “He was asking me for his father. My grandson told me that his daddy was nervous and scared” (AP) Clutching a tissue and hanging her head at times, Katherine Jackson said she didn't know the extent of her son's weakness until after the start of her trial against AEG Live LLC. "They watched him waste away," she said after her attorney cited several emails from top workers preparing for the "This Is It" shows. The messages described her son's condition as deteriorating and cited his inability to rehearse. "They could have called me," Katherine Jackson, 83, said. "He was asking me for his father. My grandson told me that his daddy was nervous and scared." (AP) She said if the family had known, Joe Jackson would have stepped in. “They watched him waste away,” she said of AEG’s execs. (AP)

              After Panish asked about an email in which an AEG corporate lawyer called her son a freak, Mrs. Jackson was crying. (AP)

              Panish: Did AEG ever tell you they called your son a freak? Mrs. Jackson: No P: And that it was creepy meeting your son? Mrs. J: No (crying).Mrs. Jackson: They were there, without calling somebody. My husband and I would have been there in a second (crying)."They watched him waste away and waited, I know they did it," Mrs. Jackson said, crying. Panish showed picture of MJ in June 09 and asked if she ever saw her son like that. "Never," said Mrs. Jackson crying, wiping her eyes. (ABC7) She also said that she didn't see a photograph of her son shot six days before her his death until after the trial started. Katherine Jackson at first didn't seem to want to look at the photo, which has been repeatedly displayed during the trial and shows her son wearing a T-shirt, his arms thin and bones visible in his upper chest. (AP) Panish showed Mrs. Jackson the picture of her son taken on June 19th in which he looks extremely thin. She looked away at first. Panish asked if she’d ever seen her son look like that. “Never,” Katherine Jackson replied. (She’d never seen the photo before the trial.) (AP)

              Mrs. Jackson was asked about the $100 million restitution figure. She said she didn't set the amount, but told the DA not to pursue it. (AP) Panish: Issue of restitution was the state decision and you told them not to do it, correct? Mrs. Jackson: Yes. Panish asked if the figure for restitution was set by the state. Mrs. Jackson said yes. (ABC7)


              AEG recross

              Putnam then took over questioning again. He showed the clip from the Dateline show that was discussed before lunch. (AP) In re-cross, Putnam showed a video where Mrs. Jackson said "It could've been prevented, he hired a doctor to take care of him." (ABC7)

              Putnam asked if Mrs. Jackson talked to her grandchildren about Dr. Murray in search of the truth."I could, but I didn't want to bring that up with them," Mrs. Jackson answered. Putnam asked if Mrs. Jackson spoke with Sister Rose, the kids' nanny. "She told me that MJ was very weak, and she told me that she talked about what went down at the practice, they had to hold him up" she said. Mrs. Jackson doesn't know why Sister Rose is called sister and Brother Michael is brother. (ABC7)

              an attorney for AEG Live had questioned why the Jackson family matriarch —if her purpose for filing the lawsuit was to find out the truth about her son's death, as she had testified — hadn't read through thousands of pages of deposition testimony, or asked her grandchildren about what happened in her son's rented mansion before his June 2009 death. She later said that while she could have asked her grandchildren about some issues, she didn't want to bring it up with them. (AP)

              Putnam: Did I say anything improper in the deposition regarding the Nation of Islam? Mrs. Jackson: You were asking me question about it (ABC7)

              He then asked Mrs. Jackson if she had ever met Paul Gongaware. She said she hadn't. “No, but that shouldn’t have stopped him from saying, ‘I’m sorry for what happened to your son,’” she said. (AP) Putnam asked if Mrs. Jackson knows Gongaware. "No, but that shouldn't have stopped him, to say I'm sorry what happened to your son" she said (ABC7)

              Putnam asked if AEG put together a Memorial Service for MJ. She said yes. Mrs. Jackson said AEG told her if she did the memorial service at the Staples Center it would be free (she wanted to do it at the Coliseum) (ABC7) Putnam asked about the Staples Center memorial service. Mrs. Jackson said she wanted to hold it at the LA Coliseum, which is much bigger. She said she was told that if it was held at the Staples Center, the family wouldn't have to pay for it. (AP)

              Jackson redirect


              Panish took over again and asked Mrs. Jackson whether she received condolence cards from strangers. She said she got 1000s of them. (AP) In re-re-direct, Panish asked: They still didn't send a card, did they? Mrs. Jackson: No. Thousands and thousands of people sent her card. (ABC7)

              She's a Jehovah's Witness and there's a difference between her religion and the Nation of Islam. (ABC7)

              Regarding the interview, Mrs. Jackson said she just assumed, she didn't know whether MJ had hired Dr. Murray. (ABC7) Panish played the clip of Randy Phillips in which he was interviewed by Sky News a few days after Michael Jackson’s death. Phillips said in the interview that that Dr. Murray was hired by AEG at the request of Michael Jackson. (AP) Panish showed video of Phillips saying they hired him. Panish: Did Sister Rose discuss with you about AEG pressuring MJ? Mrs. Jackson: Yes (ABC7)

              Panish: There was a suggestion in this trial you hired Kai Chase back so she can testify in your favor? Mrs. Jackson: Kai Chase has been working for me not quite a year yet Panish: Did you hire Kai Chase so she would testify in your favor? Mrs. Jackson: No, not at all. The children knew her, they wanted her, that's why. (ABC7)


              AEG recross


              Putnam asked about why Katherine Jackson didn’t bring up what happened in the Carrolwood house with her grandchildren. Mrs. Jackson said she could have asked them, but didn’t bring it up with them. She also said she didn’t discuss it with Kai Chase. (AP)

              In re-re-cross, Putnam inquired Phillips said 'we hired him' and Mrs. Jackson said 'Michael' hired him. Mrs. Jackson: Like I said, I didn't know who hired him at that time. Putnam said one of them was not right in their interview. Mrs. Jackson answered: "I'm not correct." (ABC7) Putnam said based on the clips showed in the Dateline interview and Phillips’ Sky News interview, someone was wrong about who hired Murray. Katherine Jackson said she was wrong in her interview, that she assumed her son had hired Conrad Murray. (AP)


              Jackson redirect

              Panish came back up one more time and asked whether Katherine Jackson expected the CEO of AEG Live to know who hired Murray. (AP) In re-re-re-direct, Panish asked: Who do you think it's in a better position to know who hired the doctor, you or the CEO of AEG? Mrs. Jackson: The CEO of AEG (ABC7)


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              Judge told jury we are now moving to defendants' case, even though plaintiffs have not yet rested their case in chief.

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              John Meglen (AEG Witness) Testimony


              AEG direct

              AEG's attorney Jessica Stebbins Bina did direct examination.

              John Meglen is a concert promoter, works at AEG Live, he's the president and CEO of Concerts West. Paul Gongaware is co-CEO of Concerts West with Meglen. He described his extensive background in the business. Meglen said he went to Veterinarian school initially. "I feel like I work with animals some times," he joked. (ABC7)

              Bina talked about rivalry between AEG Live and Live Nation. Meglen said he doesn't think being the number 1 is necessarily a good thing. He explained it is the difference between quality and quantity. (ABC7)

              When they created Concerts West, Meglen said their first tour was Andrea Bocelli. They promoted first tour of Mariah Carey. (ABC7)
              Meglen worked with MJ prior to "This Is It" once. He was a consultant to a firm in Japan that promoted two MJ shows in 1986 around Christmas.Meglen watched both shows and said it was great. Marcel Avram was the promoter. They both sold half house, he said, which is half of the tickets available. Meglen said they hid he empty seats so it wouldn't show. Bina asked if Wikipedia was wrong in saying the shows were sold out. "I don't use Wikipedia as source for my business," Meglen said. (ABC7)

              Meglen said he next met MJ in 2007 with Peter Lopez, MJ's attorney at the time at the Wynn Hotel in Las Vegas. The meeting was to let MJ know what AEG was about, Meglen said. Gongaware, Raymone Bain (MJ's manager), Lopez, MJ were present. MJ recognized Gongaware, Meglen said. He came out of the bedroom, "Whenever I see Paul Gongaware I know everything is going to be all right".Meglen said MJ asked Gongaware about Brigitte, his girlfriend at the time. They wanted MJ to choose them for a comeback tour. "He was very excited," Meglen said. "He was great, full of energy, seem taller, firm handshake, he was there, he was very, very excited." (ABC7)

              Meglen said almost immediately Gongaware took the lead on the MJ's This Is It project, since he had prior experience with MJ. Meglen said the expense of the show production falls under the artist to pay.

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              Outside the presence of jury, Panish said Deborah Chang spoke with Grace Rwamba's lawyer and he doesn't' know where she is. Plaintiffs want to bring Rwamba to testify before they rest their case. They still need to finish Ortega's testimony too.


              Zusammenfassung von Ivy, MJJC #56

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              Zusammenfassungen der vorangegangenen gerichtstage:
              Day 1 - 50
              Day 51 - zeuge Dr. Emery Brown Video Deposition; zeuge Peter Formuzis
              Day 52 - zeugin Katherine Jackson

              Exklusiv transcripts eröffnungsstatements u.a. (MJJC #1 ff.)

              Zeugenaussage von Prince Michael Jackson Jr.; exklusiv transcripts von MJJC # 7

              Deposition transcripts filed with the court.
              Note : these are not the full depositions, they are only the portions played in the court.

              Dr. Stuart Finkelstein Deposition video transcript
              Dr. Earley Deposition video transcript
              Tim Leiweke Deposition video transcript
              Randy Phillips Deposition video transcript
              Quelle Ivy, MJJC #50
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                FILE - In this Feb. 22, 1998 file photo, U.S. pop star Michael Jackson waves after arriving at the Kimpo Airport in Seoul to attend the inauguration ceremony for President-elect Kim Dae-jung and also discuss plans for a benefit concert to aid starving North Korean children. David Fournier, a nurse anesthetist who treated Jackson between 1993 and 2003 told a Los Angeles jury on Thursday July 25, 2013, in a civil case against AEG Live filed by Jackson’s mother, that the singer had a high tolerance for anesthesia and was not always forthcoming with his medical history. Fournier said he stopped working on Jackson after the singer seemed unfit to undergo cosmetic surgery in 2003. (AP Photo/Ahn Young-joon, File).
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                FILE - In this Feb. 22, 1998 file photo, U.S. pop star Michael Jackson waves after arriving at the Kimpo …

                LOS ANGELES (AP) — Michael Jackson had a high tolerance for certain drugs and wasn't always forthcoming with his medical history, a nurse anesthetist who treated the singer testified Thursday.

                Witness David Fournier told jurors he had worked with Jackson for a decade until the relationship ended in 2003, when Fournier refused to participate in a medical procedure.
                Zeuge David Fournier sagte den Juroren er habe für Jackson ein Jahrzehnt bis 2003 gearbeitet als die Beziehung endelte nachdem Forunier verweigerte an einer medizin. Behandlung teilzunehmen.

                Jackson was acting "goofy" and was slow to respond to standard questions before a scheduled cosmetic surgery that was canceled after Fournier refused to administer an anesthetic, he said.
                Jackson benahm sich "doof" und war langsam darin Standardfragen zu beantworten, vor einer angesetzten kosmet. Operation, die gecancelt wurde als Fournier verweigerte Betäubungsmittel zu geben.

                The incident came a few months after Fournier said he had to help Jackson breath while undergoing another procedure and later determined that Jackson had not disclosed a new medical condition.
                Der Vorfall kam ein paar Monate später nachdem Fournier sagte, er habe Jackson beatmen müssen, während er sich einer anderen Prozedur unterzog und später festgestellt wurde, dass Jackson nicht eine andere med. Behandlung offenbart hatte.


                "He wasn't honest with me," Fournier said without detailing the change in Jackson.
                "Er war nicht erhlich mit mit" sagt Forunier

                At the time, Jackson had an implant in his abdomen to block the effects of Demerol and other opiate drugs.
                Zu der Zeit hatte Jackson ein Implantat in seinem Bauch, dass die Auswirkungen von Demerol und anderen Opiaten blockierete.

                Fournier testified that he had given the singer a relatively large dose of a powerful anesthetic and needed to know how Jackson was going to react.
                Fournier bezeugte, dass er dem Sänger eine relativ große Dosis eines starken Betäubungsmittel gab und wissen musste, wie Jackson reagieren würde.

                A judge ruled that Fournier couldn't testify about the implant because he learned about it from Jackson's dermatologist, and it was a hearsay statement.
                Ein Gericht entschied das Forunier nicht über das Implantant aussagen durfte, weil er von Jacksons Hautarzt davon erfuhr und es ist ein Hörensagen-Statement.

                Jurors, however, had heard about the device through videotaped testimony of another Jackson doctor on Wednesday.
                Juroren allerdings erfurhen vom Implantat durch eine Videoaussage eines anderen Arztes am Mittwoch.

                Fournier testified as a defense witness in a negligence case filed by Jackson's mother against AEG Live LLC, the promoter of Jackson's comeback shows.

                Katherine Jackson claims the concert promoter failed to properly investigate the doctor who was later convicted of involuntary manslaughter for giving Jackson an overdose of the anesthetic propofol as a sleep aid in 2009.

                AEG denies it is liable for Jackson's death. Its lawyers have said Jackson hid his prescription drug use from nearly everyone.

                Fournier said his incomplete medical records show he administered propofol to Jackson at least 14 times between 2000 and 2003. He estimated he gave the singer the drug numerous other times over the years for a variety of cosmetic and dental procedures.
                Fournier sagte, seine unvollständigen medizinischen Aufzeichnungen zeigen, dass er Propofol verabreicht hat an Jackson mindestens 14 mal zwischen 2000 und 2003. Er schätzte,er gab dem Sänger das Medikament zahlreiche weitere Male im Laufe der Jahre für eine Vielzahl von kosmetischen und Zahnbehandlungen.

                He noted in his records that Jackson had a high tolerance for certain drugs, which Fournier said could be attributed to a variety of factors, including genetics.
                Er bemerkte in seinen Aufzeichnungen, dass Jackson eine hohe Toleranz für bestimmte Medikamente hat, die Fournier sagte könnten von einer Vielzahl von Faktoren, wie Genetik zugeschrieben werden.


                During cross-examination, Fournier said Jackson never requested any specific drugs, including propofol, during procedures or asked to be sedated for longer than was necessary. He said the singer didn't exhibit any drug-seeking behavior or signs that he was doctor-shopping.
                Während des Kreuzverhörs sagte Fournier Jackson habe nie spezifischen Medikamente wie Propofol angefordert oder erbeten bei Behandlungen länger als nötig sediert zu werden. Er sagte, die Sängerin zeigte kein Drogensucht Verhalten oder Anzeichen dafür, dass er Doctor-shopping machte.


                Fournier said he knew that Jackson had received an above-average number of anesthetic treatments over his lifetime, and many were related to procedures needed after Jackson was badly burned in a shoot for a Pepsi commercial in 1984.

                Fournier sagte, er wisse, dass Jackson eine überdurchschnittliche Anzahl von Narkose Behandlungen im Laufe seines Lebens erhielt, und viele Verfahren wurden benötigt im Zusammenhang der Verbrennung nach einem verungkückten Shooting für einen Pepsi-Werbespot 1984.


                Fournier said it was not common to administer an anesthetic during cosmetic procedures, but the ones done on Jackson were complex and involved dozens of injections. Some of the procedures were near Jackson's eye and sedation was necessary to keep him still, Fournier said.
                Fournier sagte, es sei nicht üblich, ein Anästhetikum während kosmetischen Eingriffen zu geben, aber die, die bei Jackson gemacht wurden waren komplizierter und komplexer und erforderten Dutzende von Injektionen. Einige der Verfahren waren in der Nähe von Jackson Auge und eine Sedierung war notwendig um ihn still zu halten, sagte Fournier.


                Fournier also said he never had any indication that the singer was using propofol as a treatment for insomnia.
                Fournier sagte auch, er hatte nie irgendwelche Anzeichen dafür, dass der Sänger Propofol zur Behandlung von Schlaflosigkeit verwendete.


                Jackson's physician Conrad Murray had been giving the singer nightly doses of propofol as Jackson prepared for his ill-fated "This Is It" shows.
                Zuletzt geändert von Lena; 26.07.2013, 09:31.

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                • Achtung TMZ, ob das so stimmt? Wir werden ja die Aussage von Debbie erleben und können den Wahrheitsgehalt prüfen. Immerhin nahm sie ja vor kurzem TMZ in Schutz und bezeichnete sich als Freundin von Harvin Levin.

                  Demnach wird Debbie am Dienstag oder Mittwoch von AEG in den Stand berufen und sie wird aussagen, dass sie wusste das MJ in der 80er und 90er einige Medikamente missbrauchte, aber nicht das es außer Kontrolle war.
                  Sie würde den Finger auf A. Klein zeigen. Sie wird aussagen, dass Klein eine ständige Anweisung hatte MJ Demerol and Vistaril (verstärkt den Effekt von Demorol) zu spritzen sobald er in die Praxis kam. Sie wird sagen, dass sie das Ausmaß des Missbrauch vor ihr geheim hielten. Rowe wird aussagen, dass sie MJ einige Tage vor seinem Tod auf einem TMZ-Video aus Kleins Praxis kommen sah und er war off. Sie habe Klein einige Tage nach Michaels Tod angerufen und gesagt "Was zum Teufel hast Du ihm gegeben? Er ist tot und es ist Deine Schuld" und hing ein.
                  Sie wird zudem sagen, dass sie die einzige Person in Michaels Umfeld, die ihn kontrolieren konnte und die einzige war (eingeschlossen seiner Familie), die Nein sagte.



                  DEBBIE ROWE
                  To Testify About
                  MJ's Shocking Drug Use


                  EXCLUSIVE

                  Debbie Rowe will testify in the Michael Jackson wrongful death case that MJ was a SECRET, hardcore drug addict for decades -- testimony that could severely damage the Jackson's case.

                  Sources connected with the trial tell TMZ ... Rowe will be called by AEG Live Tuesday or Wednesday ... and she'll testify that in the '80s and '90s ... she knew Michael was abusing some prescription meds, but had no idea his habit was so out of control.

                  We're told Rowe will point the finger at her former boss, MJ's go-to doc, Arnie Klein. Rowe will testify she learned after the fact that Klein had a standing order ... when Michael came to the office he should be injected with Demerol and Vistaril (which makes the Demerol stronger).

                  Rowe will say Michael kept the extent of his drug abuse a secret from her -- something that will clearly help AEG, because the company is arguing it had no reason to know Michael was a drug abuser.

                  Rowe will say she saw Michael on TMZ coming out of Klein's office days before he died -- looking totally out of it. We're told she will say she called Klein after Michael died and said, "What the f**k did you give him? He's dead and it's your fault." She then hung up on him.

                  Rowe's testimony will further help AEG because she'll say she had no idea Michael was secretly going to surgical offices specifically for the purpose of getting high and going to sleep.

                  She'll also say she's the only person in Michael's world who could control him -- that she's the only one (including Michael's family) who would say "NO."

                  The testimony could be critical. If the jury believes Michael could hide his hardcore drug use, AEG would have no reason to sound an alarm or take preventative action.


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                  • Jacksons vs AEG - Day 54 – July 23 2013 – Summary

                    Katherine Jackson is not in court.


                    John Meglen (Co-CEO of Concerts West) Testimony


                    AEG direct


                    Meglen didn't have involvement in Michael Jackson's contract. He said after the initial meeting, there was a quiet period. Then they met again in ealry 2008 and began discussions of what to do and where to go with MJ's comeback tour. (ABC7)

                    Defense attorney Jessica Stebbins Bina is doing the questioning of Meglen. She asked him this morning about initial plans for “TII” shows. Meglen said London was the venue AEG Live considered most because it’s considered “the biggest concert market in the world.” He said AEG considered putting Jackson’s shows in Asia, possibly Shanghai or Tokyo. He noted Asia was a historically strong market for MJ. Meglen said Japan is still the stronger concert market. “You can generate a lot more revenue in Japan than in China,” he said. He said ultimately the economics of having Jackson do his shows in Asia didn’t work out. They couldn’t get a high enough ticket price there. North America was not an option, Meglen said, due to Jackson’s reputation here and controversies he'd had here. (AP)

                    The promoter said they considered London, the biggest market in the world, since it has a new, hot arena. He said the strength of artist's popularity is based on ticket sales, ticket sales of similar artists, record sales, radio time playing. "We did not want to start the tour in North America," Meglen said. Meglen: We weren't sure what the reaction, ticket sale would be in N America because of the historic stuff Michael had gone before in the US. Meglen said the other option was Asia, Japan especially. He has done a number of other tours in Asia. However, Meglen said the economics wasn't there for Asia, couldn't get a high enough ticket price in China. He said there are a lot of rich people in China, but a lot people with not as much money. eglen said MJ had sold stadium shows in London before, had a successful track record there. (ABC7)

                    The promoter said normally they talk about show net, what we call artist gross, is when discussing money. "You can't compare net of artists because they all spend differently on the road," Meglen said. The show net is where you determine the artist gross from, Meglen explained. (ABC7)

                    AEG Live executive John Meglen is back on the stand. He’s been testifying a lot about his experience in the concert promotion business. Meglen worked somewhat on the “This Is It” tour early on, looking at budgets and projections and doing some initial planning. Meglen wasn’t working on the tour day-to-day. He was handling other AEG Live shows while other execs were working on the “This Is It” shows. He said he attended one rehearsal and didn’t meet with Michael Jackson often. He was in an initial project discussion meeting in early 2007. Meglen said he never met Conrad Murray or reviewed the doctor’s draft contract. AEG Live’s attorneys want Meglen’s testimony to demonstrate that calculations by plaintiff’s damages expert Arthur Erk are off. (AP)

                    Meglen said he was not intimately involved in the budget tour and budget production, but has seen them and knows what a budget is. Meglen said he was aware of talks about a worldwide tour with MJ. Meglen: The London shows were the only approved shows from our standpoint at AEG. He explained that the only one that went thru the approval process was the London shows. It was a long way to the completion of the London shows, so Meglen said there was no urgency in figuring out where to go after that. Meglen would have to approve a worldwide budget, he said. And it all depended on the London shows success and their review. (ABC7)

                    Meglen said Paul Gongaware called Michael Jackson 'Mikey' because they knew each other. (ABC7)

                    The promoter said AEG advanced the money for "This Is It" tour. The superstar deals: the selling of tickets is kind of a given, Meglen said. So they get out of guarantee and get profit participation. "They are worried about what their shares are as opposed to guarantee," Meglen explained. This is the type of deal for Led Zeppelin, Elvis Presley, Neal Diamond, Meglen testified. (ABC7)

                    Meglen wasn't involved in the production of TII. He has never met Dr. Murray and has not seen any draft agreement between AEG and the doctor. Meglen said he has been involved in tours where a doctor was part of the production. He named Rolling Stones, Celine Dion, John Denver.
                    Bina: Is it worrisome to have a doctor come on tour?
                    Meglen responded no, not at all.
                    He said you're dealing with singers, sometimes you have a lot of dancers on shows, so doctors, physical therapists, chefs, not uncommon. (ABC7)

                    Meglen said he had never seen an AEG contract where the artist is required to rehearse. Meglen said Celine Dion's director was freaking out because she was not showing up for rehearsals. The rehearsal is more for the people around the artist, Meglen said. He said it is very common for artists to use TelePrompTers. Celine Dion, Meglen said, not only uses Teleprompter but has an ear piece with director speaking to her. (ABC7)

                    Meglen said he had one show in Las Vegas that didn't sell tremendously well and they had to shut down production early. No names mentioned. The promoter said the hotels in Las Vegas would not allow an artist to have a residency show with only 2 and 1/2 shows per week. He said the hotels want customers every night, so resident shows need to have a constant schedule and few days off. A residency show needs more than 2 and 1/2 shows per week to be able to pay expenses and make money, Meglen explained. He said the promoter would be able to survive with only 2 and 1/2 shows per week, but not the artist. Meglen said the average ticket price for a headliner show in Las Vegas currently is $100-$125. (ABC7)

                    An arena is an ambitious step to take the model of a Las Vegas show. Arena fits 50k-60k people, Meglen said. Meglen said he has put together a show idea for Las Vegas involving Michael Jackson, but not a residential show. Meglen: We proposed to the Estate a Michael Jackson Campus at the Planet Hollywood Hotel. Meglen: It'd involve artifacts in MJ exhibit, items from Neverland, 2 restaurants, nightclub and a theatrical show directed by Kenny Ortega. This was after Michael Jackson passed away. Meglen said this was never proposed before he died. Bina showed a document with an a structural outline with the concept of the Las Vegas show, possible partners and numbers. Meglen said they wanted to take this to another level, creating an entire campus as opposed to just a show and a boutique. Meglen said he became aware the Estate of MJ was in talks with Cirque du Soleil for a show in Vegas, which gave AEG a sense of urgency. The promoter said he got one meeting with the executor of MJ's Estate, John Branca, but they were already involved with Cirque du Soleil. Meglen: You run 10 years (in a residency show) and you hit a home run. Meglen said they were very interested in a MJ Las Vegas show. He said he made an offer as attractive of better than Cirque's proposal. Meglen said there was a guarantee of $60 million over 10 years. "The Estate told us they were not interested," Meglen said. (ABC7)

                    An AEG Live executive testified Tuesday that the firm offered Michael Jackson's estate a guarantee of $60 million over 10 years in a deal that included a Las Vegas theatrical show based on the pop star's songs. John Meglen said the proposal included a "Michael Jackson campus" at the Planet Hollywood Hotel that would have included the singer's artifacts, two restaurants, a nightclub and stores to sell merchandise. The show would have been directed by Kenny Ortega, the director of the ill-fated "This Is It" 50-concert comeback tour Jackson was preparing when he died in 2009. The AEG executive testified his company would have paid an additional $40 million to create the show. "The $40 million gets you to opening night," he said. Meglen, dressed in a dark blue suit and a white shirt open at the collar, said this would have been AEG's first shot at creating what he called a "conceptual show," rather than one where a live performer is the main attraction. Conceptual shows, he said, are riskier. “With the headliner, you have a certain track record of how many tickets they’re going to sell … but if you do a show based on Elton’s music or Celine’s music, it depends on how good the show is, I guess,” said Meglen referring to Elton John and Celine Dion, singers who have done extended runs at Las Vegas hotels. Meglen said that hearing that Cirque du Soleil was talking to the Jackson estate is what led AEG to make its pitch. He said they had a meeting with the estate's co-executor, John Branca, in his conference room. Meglen said AEG did a "B-minus, C-plus pitch. In my opinion, they were already down the road and they wanted to do the show with Cirque.” Meglen said AEG never made Jackson an offer for a conceptual show while he was alive. “We thought if we could create the show with Michael’s catalog that that could be very successful, but it’s risky,” Meglen said. (Latimes)

                    While Michael Jackson was alive, Meglen said the ideal would be to have the artist live as a residency show. But that wasn't an option. He said tribute shows don't do well when the artist is alive, since people want to see the actual performer. (ABC7)

                    Meglen said he probably has never proposed an India concert. "Nobody goes to India," Meglen said. Jacksons attorney objected saying Meglen has no experience in India. Judge sustained. (ABC7)

                    Meglen explained the stadiums normally don't allow sale of full capacity. The stage is big, when you sell all around is called 360 degrees. The projections the Jacksons expert produced is more than that, Meglen said. He estimated they would sell 220 degrees in MJ's shows. All stadiums and arenas have suites and the promoters and artists don't get to charge them, Meglen said. People buy the suites on an annual basis and it includes concerts. The building gets the money, not the promoter or artist. (ABC7)

                    Asked if Jackson would have been able to fill stadiums and arenas at 100 percent capacity had he lived long enough to conduct a worldwide tour, AEG Live co-CEO John Meglen testified that the answer was no. According to Meglen’s testimony, seats behind the stage or with obstructed views cannot be assigned to ticket holders. The only seats that can be sold are those with a view of the arrest on stage, a much smaller number than the total number of seats in the venue.(NBCLA)

                    Meglen said you can't put an arena show into a stadium, specially because of the size of the stage and the production. It's also much more expensive to do a stadium show, Meglen explained. (ABC7)

                    Rolling Stones had 59,000 people, the maximum capacity they could have at The Rose Bowl, Meglen said. The Rose Bowl is one of the biggest stadiums in the country and there is the idea that it fits 100k people, Meglen explained. "You're lucky if you can hit 60 (thousand)," Meglen said. (ABC7)

                    Bina shows another exhibit. There's dispute as to which exhibit has been admitted already or not. Judge sent jury to lunch. Outside the jury presence, Panish complained to the judge that AEG's attorney Jessica Bina handed over copies of exhibits to the jury. He said the proper procedure is to hand the documents to the clerk or bailiff and let them handle them to the jury. Panish said the attorneys should not have any contact with the jurors whatsoever. Bina said it was not her intention, apologized. (ABC7)

                    John Meglen resumed testimony in the afternoon. Bina showed him plaintiffs' Highest Grossing Tours chart created by Erk from Wikipedia data. Bina: Which tours you promoted all or portion of tour?
                    8- Rolling Stones
                    11- Celine Dion
                    12- Eagles
                    13- Pink Floyd
                    18- Bon Jovi
                    20- Bon Jovi
                    26- MJ HIStory
                    28- Pink
                    30- Bon Jovi
                    34- Britney Spears
                    35- Bon Jovi
                    37- Justin Timberlake
                    38- Paul McCartney(ABC7)

                    Meglen did 7 whole tour, 3 North America and 2-3 did some shows of the highest grossing shows. He said he's familiar with endorsements and sponsorship deals involving a tour. Meglen worked on two shows of MJ's HIStory tour. (ABC7)

                    Bina said there was a lot of testimony about the fast pace of sales of tickets. She asked if he has seen any other show sell that fast. Meglen: Yes, Voodoo Lounge, Division Bell we almost sold out immediately, we call instant sell outs. Meglen: Those were stadiums tours and when we put them on sale we rolled into multiple stadium dates, that's about as high as it gets. (ABC7)

                    Rolling dates means opening more dates based on demand, Meglen explained. He said initially 10 shows for TII was sold, then 31, 50.
                    Bina: Was this the best selling show you've ever seen in your career?
                    Meglen: No, because it was a relatively lower ticket price. We sold as many tickets on Voodoo Lounge as fast as we sold MJ.
                    "In numbers of tickets sold in a day, sure, we have done those kinds of numbers before," Meglen explained. Meglen said he negotiated a number of tour deals, from Beach Boys to Sunkist, Good Vibration deals. (ABC7)

                    Sponsor puts a name in an event, Meglen said. Endorsement is when product/company associates name with an artist, artist does commercials. Meglen said the Rolling Stones sponsorship with Citibank was $2.5 million, which is not near 42% of the gross revenue.
                    Bina: Was sponsorship 42%?
                    Meglen: No, there's no correlation, I've never heard anything like it
                    Meglen said there were no endorsements deal for the This Is It tour. Bina said she had no more questions at this time. (ABC7)


                    Jackson cross


                    North America was not an option, Meglen said, due to Jackson’s reputation here and controversies he'd had here. The lawyer asked about Meglen’s characterization of Jackson’s “This Is It” ticket sales and whether he agreed with his boss’ opinion. (AP)

                    Panish, in re-cross, asked: Is Paul Gongaware truthful?
                    Meglen: Very truthful
                    P: And Randy Phillips?
                    M: Yes (ABC7)

                    Panish: Do you agree with your boss' Phillips and Gongaware MJ was the greatest artist of all time?
                    Meglen: I don't know what their opinion was. I believe that they believe that.
                    Panish: Do I believe MJ was the biggest artist of all time?
                    Meglen: No, I do not
                    Panish: Who is?
                    Meglen: I think Michael is big in pop world, but in my opinion Rolling Stones and Led Zeppelin -- "I'm a rocker" (ABC7)

                    Panish asked Meglen to name bigger artists than Jackson. Meglen said Jackson was big in the pop world, but cited 2 rock acts as bigger. Meglen named the Rolling Stones and Led Zeppelin as bigger acts, explaining he’s “a rocker.” (AP)

                    Panish: Is Celine Dion honest?
                    Meglen: Yes
                    Meglen and Dion have been working together for 12 years. He's familiar with a lot of her shows. (ABC7)

                    Panish then asked Meglen about concert attendance figures cited in Billboard magazine. Meglen said he uses them, but just as an outline. “I’ve kind of learned to believe that they’re not totally accurate,” Meglen said of the figures. (AP)

                    Panish asked about a Celine Dion show performed at the Stade de France outside of Paris. The listed max capacity is around 80k. Meglen said he believed the stadium could host 60,000 to 70,000 concertgoers for a show. Panish cited figures for two Dion shows in 1999. Panish showed Meglen a printout from Dion’s website, stating she sold 90k tickets each night for two shows in June 1999. “That’s what it says,” Meglen said of the printout. The executive told the jury he didn’t promote the Stade de France shows. Meglen had also told the jury that he wasn’t familiar with the promotion of Dion’s Asian or European tour dates. (AP)

                    Panish: What did you testify was the maximum capacity of stadium in France?
                    Meglen: I don't believe it is 80,000
                    Meglen: Generally, 30% of the numbers that your expert project you have to take out because it gets you to the salable number.
                    Panish: So what's the maximum seating capacity for that stadium in Paris?
                    Meglen: I don't know exactly, I'd say 60 to 70,000
                    Panish: Isn't it true Celine Dion sold 90,000 tickets at that stadium in 1999?
                    Meglen: I don't know if that's true, didn't promote that show
                    "It sounds like too big a number to me," Meglen said. Panish said it was 180,000 people for two shows. (ABC7)

                    Panish then attacked AEG’s slide on the Rose Bowl attendance figures. The slide said concert capacity was about 60,000 people. Panish showed Meglen a Billboard magazine story that reported U2 packed in 97,000 people for a concert there. Meglen said that’s what Billboard reported, but he said he hung out before that show and was told by the band’s rep that it hadn’t sold out. The executive said one of the only shows AEG Live has ever produced that had more than 60k concertgoers was at Ohio State University (AP)

                    Exhibit: Rose Bowl Cap
                    Rolling Stones VooDoo Lounge, 2 shows
                    Plaintiff's Stated Capacity: 92,542
                    Actual Capacity: 59,570
                    Difference: 32,972 (ABC7)

                    Meglen said he met with his attorney 5 days to prepare for his testimony. He was subpoenaed at lunch time and Bina said they will respond. "The maximum capacity of shows I've done at the Rose Bowl was 59,570," Meglen testified. (ABC7)

                    Panish: Isn't it true U2 had 97,000 people attend at the Rose Bowl?
                    Meglen: That's not true
                    Panish: It was reported on Billboard Magazine
                    Meglen: I wouldn't believe it (ABC7)

                    Panish showed Meglen the Billboard Magazine article. He asked how many tickets were sold at U2 performed in Oct 2009 at the Rose Bowl?
                    Meglen: It looks like they (Billboard) reported 97,000. I have done Pink Floyd and Rolling Stones, we try to sell as much as we can, we got to roughly 60,000.
                    Panish: Are you an expert in stadium?
                    Meglen: I think I am pretty much an expert in the field. (ABC7)

                    Meglen said that to him, the biggest stadium cap he played was in Columbus, Ohio for a concert and he got in over 60,000. Meglen: You assume I believe and agree with those numbers because they are on Billboard magazine. Those numbers are often inflated. (ABC7)

                    Panish asked Meglen how much time he spent preparing to testify. The exec said portions of five days. Meglen had been working on the Stones’ recent tour, started trial testimony preparation when he got back last week. Panish then asked Meglen about his contract and how much he got paid. Stebbins Bina objected, saying it was irrelevant to the trial. Panish said Meglen’s salary was relevant because it went to bias. Stebbins Bina said it was an invasion of privacy. Judge sustained the objection and Panish asked it a different way. Meglen said he was paid “sufficiently.” The lawyer asked if Meglen was paid a lot. The executive said he didn't know how to answer that question. When prodded, Meglen said $1 million a year seemed like a lot to him. He added he wasn’t paid that amount. (AP)

                    Panish asked if Meglen will do anything he can to protect AEG. "I'm here to tell the truth," Meglen said. Panish: How much do you get paid by AEG? Defendants' objected, said it has nothing to do with this case. Panish argued this goes to show a bias. He said he's under a 5 year contract with discretionary bonus. Judge sustained it. Panish asked if Meglen gets paid a lot by AEG. He said a lot to one person is not a lot to another. Panish asked what's a lot. Meglen said a million/year. Then Panish asked if Meglen gets paid a lot. "I'm not paid a million dollars a year" (ABC7)

                    Panish moved on after a few questions and then asked about a comment Meglen made yesterday that he works with “animals.” Meglen said he wasn’t referring to artists, he was referring to the people who prep and tear down shows and are on the road all the time. (AP) Panish asked about Meglen's reference to work with animals. "I told you yesterday that the people I worked are like animals," Meglen said. "I still work with animals." He said he was referring to crews and guys who works with him assembling shows and taking them down in hours. (ABC7) “I think we’re animals by doing that,” Meglen said. Panish asked whether the exec respected artists. “Very much,” he replied. (AP)

                    Panish asked if Meglen respects artists. He answered yes. He then asked if it is ok for AEG to refer to an artist as freak or creepy. Panish asked if it's appropriate for one of AEG's executive to call an artist "freak" and "creepy." "People will use terms about an artist that people have used before," Meglen answered. Panish asked if it's appropriate for AEG to call artist a freak. Meglen said no. Panish asked if Meglen thought it was appropriate for your lawyers to refer as freaks or creepy? Meglen: I don't believe it is yes or no answer. I believe if people are communicating in a personal level is different from being in public. "It would not be a appropriate is it was in a public fashion," Meglen opined. Panish: But in private it's ok? Meglen said he doesn't believe it's a yes or no answer. "I think when someone is having a private conversation and later if that becomes public, that can change things," Meglen said. Meglen: Freak had been used numerous times prior, I don't believe it was appropriate term for him to use but term that had been used before. "I think "creepy" is not that bad of a word," Meglen said. He told Panish he's sure they both have been called creepy behind their back. (ABC7)

                    Panish asked if it was appropriate to call an artist a “freak” or a meeting with an artist “creepy” as AEG corporate lawyers did in emails. Meglen said it depended on the situation and it wouldn’t be appropriate to do it in public. He said it wasn't a simple yes or no answer. After several more questions, Meglen said it wouldn’t be appropriate to call an artist a freak. He said calling someone creepy was different. Meglen said he’d probably been called creepy, and said it might have been said about Panish. “No one would say it to my face,” he replied. (AP)

                    Meglen said they always want to do what's best for the artist. He had some disagreements with his old boss. (ABC7)

                    Panish asked Meglen several questions about a June 2009 email that Paul Gongaware sent regarding Conrad Murray. Gongaware email: “We want to remind him that it is AEG, not MJ who is paying his salary. We want him to understand what is expected of him.” Meglen said he wasn’t copied on the email and could only speculate on what Gongaware meant. (AP) Panish asked Meglen to assume Gongaware wrote an email and said tell Murray, remind him it's AEG, not MJ, paying his salary. Panish showed Gongaware's email to Meglen. He said he's seen the email on the newspaper. Panish: You told me "who's paying your salary" is "where your bread if being buttered." Meglen: I said Mr. Ferrell told me 'you know where your bread is buttered.' "In the context of this email, I'd be only speculating what Paul was doing," Meglen said. (ABC7)

                    Panish then starting asking questions about other artists who have doctors who work on tours. He asked if AEG pays Celine Dion’s doctor. Meglen said Dion’s company pays her doctor. He said AEG didn’t negotiate the deal and can’t tell the doctor what’s expected of him. Panish asked about the Rolling Stones’ doctor. He gave the same answers -- that AEG didn’t hired or negotiate with the Stones’ doctor. Meglen said it’s usually the producer’s responsibility to negotiate with doctors, physical therapists, but terms are set by the artist. The executive re-iterated he wasn’t familiar with Murray’s contract, and hadn’t read Michael Jackson’s contract in detail. (AP)

                    Panish asked if AEG hired Celine Dion's doctor. Meglen said no. Celine's company pays her doctor. Meglen said they did not negotiate Dion's doctor's contract and cannot terminate him. Panish: Did AEG negotiate the doctor's contract for Rolling Stones? Meglen: No, it was negotiated by their tour producer. Panish asked if it's true the producer generally negotiates the contract with doctors, physical therapists, etc. Meglen: It can be producer's responsibility to hire the doctor if there is a doctor on the tour, if artist requests them to do that. In a video deposition, shown to the jury, Meglen said it's the producer's responsibility, many times. AEG Live was the producer for MJ's This Is It tour. "It can only be done with the approval of the artist," Meglen said. "You can't hire people in these positions without the artist approval." Meglen said he was told Michael wanted to bring his doctor on tour. He was not involved in negotiating the contract with Dr. Murray. Meglen said he had heard of some of the doctor's request in their executive meeting. "I don't know who was negotiating, I had simply heard the doctor requested money," Meglen said. Meglen: During one of our executive meetings, it was brought to our attention that Murray was asking for $5 million. Gongaware was the one who brought it up. Meglen said it was kind of understood the amount was excessive and it was not going to happen. (ABC7)

                    He said the company doesn’t hire doctors. He said the issue of Murray asking for $5 million came up in a meeting of AEG Live executives. Meglen said Gongaware reported the doctor’s request. After several questions about who was there, Meglen said he didn’t remember how many meetings that included a discussion of Murray’s fee, or if he commented on it. He said it may have come up in just one meeting. Meglen said Gongaware told the group that Jackson told him to offer Murray $150k a month, and the doctor accepted that. The executive said it’s uncommon that any artist’s doctor are discussed in the AEG Live executive meetings. He said outside of Jackson’s tour, a discussion of an artist’s doctor had probably never happened in the executives’’ meetings. (AP)

                    Panish asked whether AEG Live directly paid the doctors for the Stones and Dion. Meglen said not, the artists paid them. Meglen said Dion’s doctor was listed in an early budget for her shows, but he was only listed as someone paid out of her expense stipend. Dion’s company would be paid a certain amount to operate her show each week, Meglen said, and her doc would be paid from that. Meglen: “We do not hire doctors. We could advance on behalf of an artist.” (AP)

                    Panish: Isn't true Celine Dion's doctor is paid for out of show production budget? Meglen: I pay Celine Dion an amount of money, to which she pays the doctor out of that money. (ABC7)

                    Panish: You never proposed a MJ show when he was alive?
                    Meglen: I asked if Michael was interested in doing a Celine-type show and he said no (ABC7)

                    "Our policy is we do not have a deal until we have a signed contract," Meglen explained. "We do not consider a deal done until there's an executed contract," Meglen said. He said just because Murray agreed to money offer by MJ via Gongaware does not mean a deal was consummated. (ABC7)

                    Panish: Is it common at the executive committee to talk about the artist's doctor?
                    Meglen: No, that's not common
                    Panish asked when was the last time the committee discussed an artist's doctor.
                    "That probably never happened," Meglen said. (ABC7)

                    Only Rolling Stones and Celine Dion have had doctors on tour under AEG. "AEG did not have a contract with Celine's doctor," Meglen said. They did not negotiate the doctor's payment, could not fire the doctor. Meglen said he does not know if Dion's doctor set her schedule up. "AEG paid the per-show operating expense to CDA production who in turn paid the doctor," Meglen said aboutCeline Dion. Regarding the Rolling Stones, Meglen said the doctor worked for the band, which means worked for principals and band members. Meglen said AEG did not negotiate the contract with the doctor for the Rolling Stones. Panish: AEG give money to the Rolling Stones? Meglen: Yes . Panish asked if it was $18 million. Meglen said there was advance/other securities, doesn't know if the Rolling Stones have to pay it back. Meglen: We did not produce the Rolling Stones show, we only promoted the Rolling Stones tour. Celine Dion's doctor was on the original operation budget by AEG for her show. He was listed to be paid out of the weekly operation expense. Meglen said Dion's doctor was her responsibility to pay. "AEG does not pay doctors," Meglen said. "We do not hire doctors, we could advance on behalf of artists." I know we don't hire doctors," Meglen said. He was not involved in a day-to-day details. (ABC7)


                    Panish asked who would be in a better position to know AEG’s actions on Jackson’s shows, Meglen or Randy Phillips. Meglen said Phillips and Gongaware would know, but said he knew the company didn’t hire doctors. Panish asked whether Meglen had ever discussed trial testimony with Phillips or Gongaware. He said no. Meglen said the executives had discussed the case, but they were told not to discuss their respective testimony. He said he did ask Philip Anshutz how he thought the case was going when they saw each other recently. Meglen said Anshutz told him, “'I think it’s going fine. We have not presented our case yet.’” Meglen said they didn’t discuss it further. (AP)

                    Panish asked if Meglen spoke with Mr. Anschutz about the trial. Meglen said he asked what he thought about the trial. "I think it's going fine, we have not presented our case yet," Meglen said Anschutz responded. (ABC7)

                    Panish showed the picture of MJ in June 2009. Meglen: He looks skinny, he looks skinner than when I saw him. That's all. "I'm not a doctor. It's not for me to decide whether being slander is healthy or not healthy," Meglen explained. (ABC7)

                    Panish asked about the meeting with MJ in 2007. "I'm very proud of the assets of AEG, but I don't think I was bragging about it." Meglen said he would not go in a meeting about movies since he is not in the movie business. He said he showed the company's movie sizzle reel to MJ because he wanted to show the quality of their work. "How would I know what MJ wanted to do?" Meglen said. (ABC7)


                    Zusammenfassung von Ivy, MJJC #57

                    __________________________________________

                    Zusammenfassungen der vorangegangenen gerichtstage:
                    Day 1 - 50
                    Day 51 - zeuge Dr. Emery Brown Video Deposition; zeuge Peter Formuzis
                    Day 52 - zeugin Katherine Jackson
                    Day 53 - zeugin K. Jackson; AEG-zeuge John Meglen

                    Exklusiv transcripts eröffnungsstatements u.a. (MJJC #1 ff.)

                    Zeugenaussage von Prince Michael Jackson Jr.; exklusiv transcripts von MJJC # 7

                    Deposition transcripts filed with the court.
                    Note : these are not the full depositions, they are only the portions played in the court.

                    Dr. Stuart Finkelstein Deposition video transcript
                    Dr. Earley Deposition video transcript
                    Tim Leiweke Deposition video transcript
                    Randy Phillips Deposition video transcript
                    Quelle Ivy, MJJC #50

                    Kommentar


                    • Jacksons vs AEG - Day 55 – July 24 2013 – Summary

                      Katherine and Trent Jackson are at court.


                      John Meglen Testimony



                      Jackson Cross


                      AEG Live executive John Meglen is back on the stand. He’s being cross examined by plaintiff’s lawyer Brian Panish. There were some testy exchanges between Meglen and Panish. The lawyer went back over a lot of Meglen’s testimony from yesterday. There were lots of objections. The judge also had to tell Meglen to give yes or no answers, and told Panish not to argue with the witness. The session actually ended when the judge called a sidebar right before the lunch break. (AP)

                      Panish asked Meglen about his testimony yesterday on the reported 97k attendance figure for a U2 concert at the Rose Bowl. Meglen said yesterday he didn’t believe the figure as it was reported by Billboard magazine. Panish asked him for any evidence to dispute it The executive said he didn’t have evidence to dispute the 97k attendance figure, but made clear he doesn’t believe it. (AP)

                      The Rose Bowl would only seat 60,000, Meglin said. Although Billboard Magazine reported that U2 performed for 97,000 people in the Pasadena, California, venue in 2009, Meglin said he was "trusting my gut" that the numbers were inflated. "I know how those numbers can be manipulated," he said.Jackson lead lawyer Brian Panish noted that 98,000 people were in the Rose Bowl seats when Michael Jacksonperformed the halftime show for Super Bowl 27 in 1993. (CNN)

                      Panish showed the Rose Bowl chart defendants created and asked what's the maximum seating capacity in the Rose Bowl? Meglen: There are many factors that go into that "I believe the seating capacity for a football game is 100,000," Meglen said.
                      Panish: For a music concert?
                      Meglen: You'll need to tell me the size of the production in order to tell you (ABC7)

                      Meglen: U2 Concert was called 360, so I'm assuming it sold 360 degrees. Meglen said he was at the Rose Bowl but didn't watch the U2 concert. Panish asked if 97,000 people sounds right. Meglen: No, I'm not aware of that because I was not involved in the show Panish asked if Meglen was saying the Rose Bowl can't fit 97,000. "I'm not trying to tell you that, it depends on the size of the production. Michael was a stage end production," Meglen opined. Meglen: If you have a center stage, 360 in the round with a small stage in the middle, you could probably get 97,000, yes. Panish asked if Billboard Magazine was wrong about U2 having 97K people. "I told you I do not believe the numbers on Billboard" Meglen said. Panish showed picture of U2 concert at the Rose Bowl. Meglen said the floor is not completely filled up. Panish asked how many seats are in the Rose Bowl. Meglen said the stadium is around 100,000 people. (ABC7)

                      Panish: You told us yesterday you spoke with the promoters of U2. Who did you speak with?
                      Meglen: Jerry Barae -- he's in Chicago (ABC7)

                      Meglen: I never disputed what U2 sold at Rose Bowl. I cannot tell you how much are paid tickets, how much are what we call 'paper ticket' VooDoo Lounge, 180-200 degrees, you can sell 60,000 seats, Meglen said. Panish asked if Meglen spoke with someone promoting the U2 concert at the Rose Bowl and that there were only 60,000 people there. Meglen said that was not true. (ABC7)

                      Panish: If you testified to that it is a lie, then?
                      Meglen: I don't believe that's what I testified to

                      "I said that I don't believe it," Meglen said, "and I still believe that's not true. My answer said it is not true they had 97,000." Meglen: When I talk about ticket sales, we talk about paid tickets. We don't really care about people who don't pay tickets. "No one from U2's group told me that 97,000 people did not attend the Rose Bowl," Meglen said. Meglen explained he based his opinion on his experience promoting and producing stadium shows for 35 years. (ABC7)

                      He said he doesn’t believe the 97k figure was for paid attendance, which is what matters to him and what he was referring to. Panish
                      showed Meglen a photo from the U2 show. Fans were packed in the stands and hundreds were on the field. Meglen pointed out that the U2 show had a 360-degree stage that allowed them to sell tickets throughout the entire Rose Bowl. He said Michael Jackson’s stage for the “This Is It” show was different, an “end stage” setup that wouldn't allow as many concertgoers. Meglen conceded that you could probably fit 97k people in the Rose Bowl with the right stage, but they might not have all bought tickets. (AP)

                      Meglen smiled at Panish.
                      Panish: Is it funny Mr. Meglen?
                      Judge: Mr. Panish, don't argue -- she shook her head (ABC7)

                      Meglen said he's been working with Gongaware for 35 years. Panish asked if Meglen agrees with Gongaware that the sale of MJ's tickets was the fastest ever in the industry. Meglen: I don't think I agree with that statement, but I think that's what Paul thought.
                      Panish: Do you agree or disagree this is the most amazing ticket sales Mr. Gongaware has ever seen?
                      Meglen: I agree that's the most that Paul had seen (ABC7)

                      Meglen said he has done tours for 35 years, probably hundreds of tours.(ABC7)

                      The lawyer asked about Paul Gongaware’s contention that he had never seen anything like the “This Is It” ticket demand. Panish wanted to know why Meglen didn't agree with Gongaware's characterization of the "This Is It" ticket sales. Meglen: “Paul and I have worked on different projects in our lives.” He said he couldn't give the lawyer a simple yes or no answer. Panish asked whether Meglen was denying that Jackson had “huge ticket drawing power.” Meglen responded, “Not at all.” (AP)

                      Panish: Do you agree with Randy Phillips, the CEO of AEG, believe Mr. Jackson had an obligation to attend rehearsal? Meglen: I don't know the context of which this question was asked. You are asking me to opine on what Randy was thinking. Meglen: I don't know if Michael had a contractual obligation. "Randy may have felt Michael was obligated, but don't know it was contractually obligated," Meglen said. Meglen: I agree that an artist should go to some of the rehearsals, yes (ABC7)

                      Panish asked Meglen a bit about the AEG corporate structure. Meglen reports to the CEO of AEG Inc., he said. Panish again asked Meglen about his contention from yesterday that there were bigger stars than Michael Jackson. Panish's questioning focused on AEG execs Paul Gongaware and Randy Phillips saying there was no one bigger than Jackson. The lawyer then asked Meglen whether he agreed with AEG Live CEO that Michael Jackson was bigger than Celine Dion. Meglen works directly with Dion and her tours in North America. It took him a few tries before he answered the question. He said he doesn’t believe that Phillips’ statement is true, but it was a personal opinion. “To me, she’s bigger,” Meglen said. (AP)

                      Panish: Do you agree with Randy Phillips that MJ was a bigger artist than Celine Dion, yes or no?
                      Meglen: I do, myself, personally believe that that is not true
                      "In my opinion Celine is right up there with Michael Jackson and is bigger," Meglen said. (ABC7)

                      Meglen and Panish went back-and-forth for several minutes over when AEG’s negotiations began with Jackson in 2008. Meglen didn’t remember the time frame, so Panish played his deposition in which he said the negotiations started in Fall of 2008. Panish then asked whether Meglen was personally involved in the negotiations. He said he wasn’t at the negotiating table. It took a long time and several questions to establish that Meglen was briefed about negotiations during meetings with other AEG Live execs. Meglen didn’t review the actual contracts for the “This Is It” shows, but said he had input on ticket prices, other issues. (AP)

                      Panish played Meglen's deposition, where he was asked when he recalled the negotiations with MJ started. Meglen said Summer or Fall 2008. Panish: Is that the truth or not, sir? Or you don't know the truth? Meglen: It's the truth, but I'm not good with dates, need to look at my calendar. (ABC7)

                      Meglen said he was not at the table during the negotiation, he would be at the office doing his work. Meglen: I was not personally involved, face to face, with MJ's people Meglen said that the negotiation is not only the contract, but various internal conversations about the tour. "As CEO of Concerts West, it's my job to review any negotiations people are having regarding tour," Meglen said. Meglen explained he was involved in the internal discussions, in conversations with Gongaware and Phillips. He never reviewed the contract as was being drafted, Meglen said. (ABC7)

                      Meglen said he was not involved in "This Is It" movie. Panish said he was credited as co-producer of the movie. Meglen said he was a co-producer of the show not the movie. Meglen explained Gongaware has not been involved in Celine Dion's tour, but they give each other credit. (ABC7)

                      The exec said he gave input in ticket prices, scaling and places to have the show. Panish played video deposition, where Meglen said he doesn't recall if he was involved in the forecast for MJ tour. Timm Wooley is friends of Meglen. They haven't discussed the trial. The last time they saw each other was in London for Rolling Stones show. Wooley doesn't work for AEG, but to Rolling Stones now. Hougdahl "Bugzee" is working for Shania Twain. Panish showed an email from Gongaware about MJ first draft of worldwide tour projection. It lists "net to Mikey $132 million." Email: It's a big number, but this is not a number MJ will want to hear. He thinks he is so much bigger than that. If we use show income, it's over a quarter of a billion dollars. His net share works out to be 50% after local venue and advertising costs, which is quite good. His gross will approach $ half a billion. Maybe gross is a better number to throw around, if we need to use numbers with Mikey listening.
                      Panish: Isn't Paul Gongaware suggesting to lie to Michael Jackson?
                      Meglen: No he is not (ABC7)

                      Panish asked Meglen is he knows Dr. Finkelstein. He said he asked which tour he was in with Michael Jackson. Meglen said he saw Dr. Finkelstein at the Coachella festival. He got tickets from AEG. (ABC7)

                      Meglen spoke with Gongaware about previous MJ's tour. He knows that Michael canceled a tour because MJ entered rehab. (ABc7)

                      After a brief break, Panish showed Meglen the AEG projections for a worldwide tour for Jackson that were displayed last week. Panish went through the list, showing that AEG had plotted out potential shows in Europe, South Africa and other locations. The lawyer pointed to several shows planned for India and his contention that big artists didn’t perform in India. Panish then rattled off several acts who peformed in India: Beyonce, Akon, Shakira, 50 Cent. Meglen didn’t dispute they performed there. “It’s not a very big market, that I do know,” Meglen said of the India concert scene. A dispute over India’s population ensued. Panish at one point said that there were billions of people in Mumbai alone, prompting several attorneys and the judge to chime in. Panish conceded the billions of people in Mumbai remark wasn't right and moved on to other topics. (AP)

                      Panish showed email Gongaware sent with the attachment of the worldwide MJ tour and cc'd to Meglen. It lists cities, the amount of shows and weeks in Europe, South Africa, Asia (and Middle East), India and US.
                      Panish: You told us yesterday no one goes to India
                      Meglen: Not that many do. Again, I told you very few people, no one as in few people
                      Meglen said he thinks MJ did one or two shows in India.
                      Panish: Is Beyonce no one?
                      Meglen: No, she's a very popular
                      Panish: Do you know she went to India?
                      Meglen: I have not idea
                      Panish also named Shakira, Akon, 50 Cent that went to India. The email projection shows 3 shows in India plus one private for MJ. (ABC7)

                      He next asked Meglen about Phillips’ contention in an email that Jackson could have sold out 200 shows in London. Meglen said he didn’t agree and that he didn’t believe that Jackson could have done 200 shows in London. Asked if Phillips’ statement in the email was a false one, Meglen said yes. He added that no one in the business has a “crystal ball.” He said Phillips may have believed that was true, but he didn't believe Jackson could have done 200 shows in London. Panish asked some questions about how many tickets people could buy for the “This Is It” shows. Meglen said he didn’t know. Meglen and Panish went back-and-forth about it for a few questions, then the judge called a sidebar. (AP)

                      Meglin also disagreed with what one of his superiors, AEG Live CEO Randy Phillips, wrote in an e-mail that there was enough demand in England alone to sell out more that 200 Jackson shows. "He believed that," Meglin testified. "I don't believe that." (CNN)

                      Meglen said he does not believe MJ could sell 200 shows in London. Panish said Randy Phillips said that. "My opinion is no, that he he could not have done 200 shows in London," Meglen testified. Panish showed an email from Phillips saying "We could have done 200+ shows based on demand." Meglen said he does not believe that is true. "He believed that, I don't believe that." "No one has a crystal ball in our business," Meglen said. "He could've done 200 shows is purely speculation on his behalf." Panish asked if Phillips was more hands on than he was in "This Is It" tour. He said yes. “I don't know if I agree there were 525,000 people in the queue," Meglan opined. "Everybody exaggerates, and when something is hot everyone wants to take it to the moon," Meglen said. Panish asked Meglen to assume Randy Phillips told the truth. "I know it's a big assumption," Panish said. Defendants' attorney objected, judge sustained it and asked to go to sidebar to talk to attorneys. Attorneys went to judge's chamber and talked for about 10 minutes. They came back and judge broke session for lunch. (ABC7)

                      Panish corrected himself about number of people living in India. Earlier he said several billion people live there, but should be millions. "I understand you are mistaken," Meglen said. "It doesn't mean you are a liar." Panish said he would not respond to Meglen's comment. (ABC7)

                      Regarding India, Meglen explained: "I don't think it's a small market, I think it's an under developed market." Meglen said he knows that Michael played in India, heard from Panish that Beyonce went to India. (ABC7)

                      Panish: When you testified yesterday, you didn't know anyone that had gone to India, correct?
                      Meglen: No, that's not correct (ABC7)

                      Panish: Are there a lot of stadiums in the world that hold more than 60,000?
                      Meglen: Yes, there are a lot of soccer stadiums in the world
                      Panish: In Australia?
                      Meglen: Yes (ABC7)

                      Meglen said he does not recall how many times MJ sold out in London.(ABC7)

                      Leonard Cohen -- AEG promoted and produced worldwide tour, Meglen said.
                      Panish: Did you hire a doctor for Leonard Cohen?
                      Meglen: We do not hire doctors (ABC7)

                      Panish asked if Meglen has had experience where the CEO is involved in doing an intervention with an artist. Meglen said he's aware of it happening before in the early 80s, not at AEG. He was involved minimally in the intervention. (ABC7)

                      Meglen said he has not had emails from show managers at AEG saying the artist was deteriorating. "I've had situation where the production manager had emails about the artist's behavior," Meglen testified. "I've had situations where artists had been sick before, yes," Meglen said. Panish: Have you ever called the doctor for 30 minutes to discuss the artist's condition? Meglen: No (ABC7)
                      Panish asked if Meglen had ever seen an email saying AEG wanted to remind the doctor they are paying the bill. The exec said no. (ABC7)

                      Meglen: I'm aware of us checking people out. "We don't hire doctors, if the artist wants his doctor there, the way we check that out we go to the artist," Meglen said. "If I'm asking the artist if that's his doctor, that's throughly checking him out," Meglen explained. (ABc7)

                      Meglen: I asked MJ if he was performing this and he told me he did not want to do (a residency show in Las Vegas). "I think MJ would have to do over 2.5 shows a week or you couldn't have such a deal," Meglen said. (ABC7)


                      AEG redirect

                      In re-direct, Jessica Bina asked about the proposal for the Las Vegas show in 2010 with MJ's Estate. "There are numbers for per week, per year for the first 5 performance years, then next 5 performance years," Meglen explained. Meglen said he became aware Cirque du Soleil was anxious to get a deal done with the Estate to have a MJ show. Meglen said his argument was that there was something better to do. (ABC7)

                      Meglen: We don't have a crystal ball (on whether show would be successful or not). (ABC7)

                      Bina asked if artist is in the middle of stadium w/ microphone if there are reasons the show couldn't be filled to capacity. Meglan said no. Bina: But does it happen very often? Meglen: No. Meglen: Artist has to be comfortable with all around stage, production becomes very challenging and incredibly expensive as well as sales. "This Is It" was not set to be a 360 degree show, Meglen said. He noted it was quite the opposite. MJ's production was $26-$27 million. Meglen said for TII to become 360 degree tour, there would be cost associated with it. "Pretty much, it would have to be a new production." Meglen explained 180-240 degrees in front of the stage is the standard in the business. Meglen said if he could sell more tickets for TII he would have. "It's nothing but profit at that point." The executive said there was never a conversation about making TII show 360 degree. (ABC7)

                      Meglen said again he doesn't agree with Phillips' opinion that there were 200+ more shows to be done in London. Meglen said putting 13 million tickets on sale was not on his mind. He expected the London shows to do well. The executive said when MJ said "This is It" people thought that was it. But if he went to other cities, this was not it after all. Meglen said that at the time MJ died there were only 50 shows agreed upon between MJ and AEG. Meglen said that for lower ticket price TII was a great sale. (ABC7)


                      Jackson recross


                      Panish: Were Paul Gongaware and Randy Phillips more involved in TII than you?
                      Meglen: Yes (ABC7)

                      The executive said he never told Gongaware and Phillips the projection was bad, only that he thought it was a long ways to get to the end. (ABC7)


                      AEG redirect


                      Meglen said Beatles' "Love" and Cirque du Soleil "O" are two of the most successful conceptional shows. (ABC7)

                      Bina showed Gongaware's email again: Here's the first-draft look at a worldwide tour... you can't pin this down now... too many variables. (ABC7)

                      Meglen said it's not possible to see the Beatles anymore, since some members are dead. Meglen: If Michael was still alive and touring, I would not be interested in doing a MJ conceptional show. (ABC7)


                      Jackson recross


                      Panish asked if MJ wanted to go worldwide, AEG would've been able to make that happen. Meglen said he could've set up the arrangements. "I cannot tell you how many more Michael Jackson tours he could've done it, it's pure speculation," Meglen said.
                      Panish: Did you know MJ told his children they would go on a world tour?
                      Meglen: I have no idea (ABC7)

                      Meglen was excused.


                      Dr. Alimorad Farshchian Video Deposition


                      Deposition was in August 2012. Marvin Putnam did the questioning. Dr. Farshchian went to Rutger's University, graduated in 1983 with pre-med. He went to medical school in Saint Lucia in 1987. After that he did cardiac research at SUNY in Brooklyn. He did that for 3-4 years. He then did residency in internal medicine and family medicine, went to private practice. Dr. Farshchian is not board certified. Center for Regenerative Medicine is his practice in Florida. He's the medical director. (ABC7)

                      Dr. Farshchian treated MJ in April 2001 and stopped in 2003. 'I was one of his doctors," he said. Dr. Farshchian said MJ was having an issue with his ankle, he was supposed to performed at Madison Square Garden, had to rehearse. Dr. Farshchian: And he had an ankle issue that was more like a sprained ankle that was not healing and he had to continue to dance on it. "He made an appointment like everybody else," Dr. Farshchian said. (ABC7)

                      Putnam asked if MJ wanted to get off drugs, if that happened at the hotel in a second meeting with the doctor. He said yes. Putnam: Do you remember the first time he told you he wanted to clean himself up from drugs? "He was trying to get off Demerol," Dr. Farshchian said. MJ told him he had a problem with the drug. Dr. Farshchian said MJ's main concern was his kids, always his kids, I'd do for my kids, and to spend more time with his kids. (ABC7)

                      At that time, Dr. Farshchian said he wasn't following MJ on the media. At that point, to me he was just a regular patient. Dr Farshchian: When I got to know him I visited him at the hotel, read a little about him on the internet, then realized was ongoing problem (ABc7)

                      Putnam: Did MJ tell you he was addicted to Demerol?
                      Dr. Farshchian: Not in certain words
                      Putnam: Did he seek treatment with you?
                      Dr. Farshchian: Eventually (ABC7)

                      Dr. Farshchian: To treat Michael for that problem, I thought that because he travelled quite a bit he needed something to be on him. I chose Naltrexone, Dr. Fashchian testified. The drug inhibits the effects of the narcotics, if you take it it stops giving you the euphoria. Dr. Farshchian said he implanted more than one patch of the drug in MJ. It normally lasts 60-90 days in the body. MJ had patch implanted 5 times. Dr. Farshchian said in training in family medicine, he learned about psychiatry and drug dependency. Dr. Farshchian: The implant, back then it was more popular, not doing as much anymore. The doctor said carrying an implant in you, you carry a risk of infection. That could be a reason they don't do it that much. Dr. Farshchian said MJ's skin would have allergy from the patch, he wouldn't be very comfortable with it. Dr. Farshchian: It's usually placed in the abdomen lower than belly button, right or left side, and removed after 90 days. (ABC7)

                      Medical record timeline (ABC7)


                      21 Jul 02 -- sent more information about Buprenex, since did not get any respond (sic) from him and attempt to intervene.

                      Jackson had some sort of infection on his leg, he was going to Germany at the time, so Dr Farshchian went with him for treatment of his condition

                      20 Oct 02 -- patient states he need some help him with his addiction problem. He does not wish to go to an outpatient rehab facility despite the pressure from family. Discussed with him option of Naltrexone.

                      Dr. Farshchian said Jackson was adamant about not going to rehab facility. He was concerned about his privacy and paparazzi.

                      04 Nov 02 -- Jackson's weight was 128 -- pre-procedure, cut the skin, insert implant chip of Naltrexone.

                      Dr. Farshchian used local anesthesia with lidocaine 1%, done as outpatient in doctor's office in Miami.

                      06 Nov 02 -- phone call, states he's doing well tolerating minimum agitation, little insomnia

                      Dr. Farshchian said it was a 10 hour production to go from Neverland to Miami. Jackson said he was going to see a psychologist. "Jackson was very private with everything," Dr. Farshchian said. At the time, he was complaining of insomnia. He was seeing a herbologist for it. Dr. Farshchian said Jackson always had trouble sleeping. "To me his insomnia was caused, possibly, you have this area inside the nose...called turbinates, if you reduced it's called empty nose syndrome, to me that was the cause of that. Putnam asked if parts of Jackson’s nose were missing? Dr. Farshchian’s response, “ Portions of his nose were taken out. (Jurors heard from Farschian that Jackson suffered from insomnia years earlier. The doctor's theory is that it was linked to cosmetic surgery: a key part of Jacksons nose was missing. "It is possible that you produce what they call empty nose syndrome and producing insomnia," said Farschian.)

                      Two days later, Jackson reported good nights.”

                      26 Nov 02 -- ankle wound is better, but he had taken the implant out by a physician at home, wishes to do another implant

                      Dr. Farshchian said Michael had a local doctor who didn't know what the patch was and removed it. Jackson would itch it, had some skin rash. Michael really wanted to do this, he came back to get the procedure done, Dr. Farshchian said.

                      26 Nov 02 -- second procedure of Naltrexone

                      27 Nov 02 -- no nausea, vomiting, diarrhea. Abdomen implant well placed Naltrexone implant: continue current treatment, patient sober x 20 days

                      29 Nov 02 -- feels very good, sleeping well. No sign of opiate withdrawal.

                      Dr. Farshchian: My practice is completely orthopedic regeneration. He said he treats arthritis and orthopedic conditions.

                      02 Dec 02 -- feels very good, sleeping well Patient sober, now going over the 12 steps with him

                      Dr. Farshchian: Each of the steps is somewhat connected of asking God to help you get strength to battle addiction. There was a period of time Jackson stayed with Dr. Farshchian, he stayed over two times, the children one time. The doctor lives in North Miami Beach, Bay Harbor Island. Grace Rwamba might've stayed at the house as well. Dr. Farshchian said he converted his garage into a bedroom for Jackson. He never treated Jackson at the house.

                      04 Dec 02 -- Narcan implant at its place Exercised the 12 steps with him

                      20 Jan 03 -- patient returns for another implant, been sober for more than 2 months, states been following the 12 step program Weight: 135 lbs

                      03 Apr 03 -- patient returns for another implant, sober for almost 6 months following 12 step program at least once a week with private social worker

                      02 Jul 03 -- patient returned for another implant, sober for almost 9 months, good with 12 step program

                      Patient can follow up with local physician at this point. Dr. Farshchian said he thought it was enough, the treatment was done.

                      (About the plaintiffs claim that Jackson was emaciated, the autopsy recorded he was 136 pounds when he died. Farschian testified that Jackson weighed 128 when he treated him.)

                      The next time Dr. Farshchian saw Michael was the weekend after he was arrested.
                      Putnam: How was he doing?
                      Dr. Farshchian: Not too good
                      Putnam: Was he using drugs again?
                      Dr. Farshchian: No (ABC7)

                      Dr. Farshchian: There was an attempt intervention by the family but MJ was very difficult to get to, bodyguard, so it may not have happened. Putnam asked if the intervention was in the Spring of 2002. Dr. Farshchian said it might've been after or before, not sure. (ABC7)

                      Dr. Farshchian is not aware of MJ doing any other outpatient treatment. (ABC7)

                      Dr. Farshchian said when MJ's third child, Blanket, was just born, there was 'a monkey on his back', he didn't want to do it anymore. "Monkey on his back" was Demerol use, Dr. Farshchian said. Dr. Farshchian said he didn't know why MJ became addicted or started taking Demerol. The doctor said MJ did not abuse other drugs or alcohol. (ABC7)

                      MJ was seeing other doctors in CA.
                      List of other doctors:
                      Dr. William Van Valin -- Dr. Farshchian doesn't know him
                      Dr. Murray -- Dr. Farshchian doesn't know him
                      Dr. Arnold Klein -- yes, I heard about him through the media
                      Dr. Steven Hoefflin -- Dr. Farshchian doesn't know him
                      Dr. Metzger-- yes, heard being MJ's physician in LA, might have spoken to him. Spoke about implants, what to do about it, how he should look (ABC7)

                      Last time Dr. Farshchian spoke with Mrs. Jackson was at the funeral. Before he spoke with her at a 2002 Christmas at Neverland. He said he also had a phone call with Mrs. Jackson where she wanted to know about the implants. Michael called Mrs. Jackson and Dr. Farshchian said he was treating MJ for addiction to Demerol. (ABC7) The doctor said he talked to her directly about the singer's detox treatment."I think she wanted to know all about it, what was going on," said Farschian. (ABC)

                      Last time he spoke with MJ on the phone was in the Winter of 2004. His first impression was that he wanted to get better for the kids' sake. (ABC7)

                      Did you understand Mrs. Jackson was concerned about his health? Dr. Farshchian: Yes, I don't recall the conversation, but once she understood the procedure he said she was happy Dr. Farshchian: Once at Neverland Michael showed his mother the implant. She was very happy about it. (ABC7) The doctor said he implanted Jackson five times over nine months and that he personally witnessed Mrs. Jackson examining her son's incision. "I remember that was in Neverland. Michael did show the implant to his mother. Just his mother was there. She was very happy," said Farschian. (ABC)


                      Zusammenfassung von Ivy, MJJC #58

                      __________________________________________

                      Zusammenfassungen der vorangegangenen gerichtstage:
                      Day 1 - 50
                      Day 51 - zeuge Dr. Emery Brown Video Deposition; zeuge Peter Formuzis
                      Day 52 - zeugin Katherine Jackson
                      Day 53 - forts. zeugin K. Jackson; AEG-zeuge John Meglen
                      Day 54 - forts. AEG-zeuge Meglen

                      Exklusiv transcripts eröffnungsstatements u.a. (MJJC #1 ff.)

                      Zeugenaussage von Prince Michael Jackson Jr.; exklusiv transcripts von MJJC # 7

                      Deposition transcripts filed with the court.
                      Note : these are not the full depositions, they are only the portions played in the court.

                      Dr. Stuart Finkelstein Deposition video transcript
                      Dr. Earley Deposition video transcript
                      Tim Leiweke Deposition video transcript
                      Randy Phillips Deposition video transcript
                      Quelle Ivy, MJJC #50

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                      • The Jacksons vs. AEG Live — Zeugen von AEG, 2. Teil

                        26. Juli 2013

                        Seit Dienstag ist nun wie abgekündigt AEG Live an der Reihe, ihre Seite des Falles zu präsentieren und ihre Zeugen zu befragen. Nachdem am Dienstag erst noch der Jackson Experte Arthur Erk von AEG ins Kreuzverhör genommen wurde (siehe hier http://www.nydailynews.com/entertain...icle-1.1400457), wurde am Mittwoch John Meglin, ein Manager von AEG Live und der CEO von Concerts West, dem Bereich von AEG Live, der für Michaels Comeback Tour verantwortlich war, von AEG befragt.

                        Zur Erinnerung: genau genommen ist John Meglin nicht der erste Zeuge, der für AEG Live aussagt. Bereits am 13. Mai wurden die beiden Tänzer/Choreographen Stacy Walker und Travis Payne befragt (siehe hier http://www.jackson.ch/the-jacksons-v...on-aeg-1-teil/). Deshalb auch “Zeugen von AEG — 2. Teil” für die heutige Meldung.

                        John Meglins Aussagen hatten insbesondere zum Zweck, die frühere Expertenaussage von Buchhalter Arthur Erk für die Jackson Seite anzugreifen bzw. zu schwächen (für Erks Aussage siehe hier http://www.jackson.ch/the-jacksons-v...ksons-36-teil/ ). Meglin meinte u.a., dass Michael nie soviele Tickets verkauft hätte, wenn er noch leben würde, wie dies Erk prognostiert hatte. Erk hatte geschätzt, dass wenn Michael nicht gestorben wäre, er bis zu seinem 66. Geburtstag USD 1.5 Mia. hätte verdienen können. Meglin meinte, dass Erks Hochrechnungen ca. 30 Prozent zu hoch angesetzt seien und gewisse Annahmen, die Erks Hochrechnung zu Grunde lagen, nicht der Realität entsprechen würden. So ist Erk zum Beispiel von 90’000 verkauften Tickets pro Stadium Show ausgegangen. Meglin meinte jedoch, das nach seiner Erfahrung keine Stadien so viele Plätze für eine Show nach Michael Jacksons Stil fassen würden. Das Rose Bowl Stadium zum Beispiel (wo Michael den Super Bowl Auftritt 1993 hatte) fasst 60’000 Sitze. Und obwohl Billboard Magazine berichtet hatte, dass U2 im 2009 vor 97’000 Leuten performt hatte im Rose Bowl, sagte Meglin, dass er seinen Instinkten vertraue, dass diese Zahl aufgebläht worden war. “Ich weiss, dass solche Zahlen manipuliert werden können,” so Meglin. Jackson Anwalt Brian Panish bemerkte, dass bei Michaels Super Bowl Show im Rose Bowl 1993 sogar 98’000 Plätze besetzt waren.

                        Meglin bestritt zudem Erks Annahme, dass Michael seine Tour für mindestens drei Shows nach Indien gebracht hätte. “Niemand geht nach Indien”, meinte Meglin. Später räumte er jedoch ein, dass Michael Jackson während seiner HIStory Tour in Indien aufgetreten war. Obwohl die Bevölkerung bei 1.25 Mia. Menschen liegt, sei Indien kein sehr grosser Markt, so Meglin. Meglin war auch nicht mit einer Aussage von AEG Lives CEO Randy Phillips einverstanden, der in einer E-Mail geschrieben hatte, dass in England genug Nachfrage für 200 Shows von Michael bestand. “Er hat das geglaubt. Ich glaube das nicht”, so Meglin. Phillips hatte auch bemerkt, dass sämtliche 750’000 Tickets für 31 “This Is It Show”, im März 2009 in gerade mal 2 Stunden nachdem die Tickets zum Verkauf standen, weg waren. Und es hatten sich bereits genug Käufer registriert, um 100 weitere Shows auszuverkaufen, so Phillips in seiner E-Mail.

                        Meglin war auch anderer Meinung als Randy Phillips, als dieser Michael Jackson als den grössten Entertainer aller Zeiten gepriesen hatte. “Ich persönlich glaube nicht, dass dies stimmt. Meiner Meinung nach ist Celine Dion genauso eine grosse Entertainerin wie Michael Jackson. Für mich ist sie sogar grösser als Michael Jackson”, sagte Meglin.

                        Quellen: jackson.ch, cnn.com, nydailynews.com

                        Weiterlesen unter http://www.jackson.ch/the-jacksons-v...on-aeg-2-teil/
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                        The Jacksons vs. AEG Live — Zeugen von AEG, 3. Teil

                        26. Juli 2013

                        Am Donnerstag hat David Fournier, ein Krankenpfleger im Bereich Anästhesiologie, der Michael Jackson mehr als ein Dutzend Mal Propofol verabreicht hatte, ausgesagt. Fournier ist der erste von “vielen, vielen” im medizinische Bereich tätigen Zeugen, die Michael Jackson behandelt hatten, so hatte AEG Anwalt Putnam vorgängig angekündigt. AEG rief Fournier als Zeugen auf, um die Geschworenen davon zu überzeugen, dass Michael Jackson betreffend seinen Medikamentengebrauch so täuschend und geheimnisvoll war, dass die AEG Manager gar nicht wissen konnten, dass seine Gesundheit während den Vorbereitungen zu “This Is It” gefährdet war.

                        Fournier erzählte u.a. von einem Vorfall am 3. Juni 2003, als Michael Jackson während einer Narkose für eine Behandlung bei Dr. Arnold Klein plötzlich zu atmen aufgehört hatte. Nach einer “leicht merkwürdigne Reaktion” während der Sedierung hatte Dr. Klein Fournier gesagt, dass dies wegen eines “Opiatantagonists”, den er implantiert hatte, sein könnte. Dieses sollte ihm bei der Behandlung seiner Abhängigkeit von Demerol helfen. “Man erwartet von seinen Patienten und Ärzten, dass sie mit einem ehrlich sind und ich fühlte mich hintergangen und war verärgert (über Klein und Michael Jackson)”, so Fournier. Die AEG Anwälte erhoffen sich von diesem Bericht, dass die Geschworenen sehen, dass Michael Jackson betreffend seinen Medikamentengebrauch nicht ehrlich war und dass das AEG Management somit keine Chance hatte zu wissen, welche gefährliche Behandlungen Murray Michael Jackson verabreicht hatte.

                        Fournier berichtete auch, dass Michael Jackson in zwei Fällen die Anweisungen im Anschluss an eine Sedierung nicht befolgt hatte. So ging er einmal in einen KFC, um fried chicken zu essen, statt wie angewiesen nach Hause zu gehen und erst einmal nur Cracker zu essen. Ein anderes Mal ging er direkt an eine Probe für eine Grammy Show Aufführung und verstauchte sich dabei den Fuss.

                        Fournier sagte aber auch aus, dass jedes Mal, als Propofol verabreicht wurde, dies aus medizinischer Sicht gerechtfertigt war und dass er nicht den Eindruck hatte, dass Michael Jackson ein Medikamentenproblem hatte. Die 14 Male, in denen Fournier Michael Jackson zwischen 2000 und 2003 Propofol verabreicht hatte, waren für plastische Operationen, dermatologische Behandlungen und Operationen im Mundbereich. Das erste Mal, als Fournier Michael Jackson unter Narkose gesetzt hatte, war 1993, als er im Zusammenhang mit seinen schweren Verbrennungen an der Kopfhaut beim Pepsi Werbefilm einige Jahre zuvor behandelt wurde.

                        In 25 Fällen, als er beauftragt wurde, bei Behandlungen von Michael Jackson zu assistieren, wurden keinerlei Beruhigungs- und Schmerzmittel verabreicht, so Fournier. Fournier hatte lediglich Michaels Hand gehalten und ihm versichert, dass alles gut kommen würde. Michael hatte auch nie um spezifische Medikamente gefragt und hatte nie mit ihm gestritten, so Fournier. Alle Ärzte, die ihn behandelt hatten, waren angesehene Ärzte.

                        Fourniers freundschaftliche Beziehung mit Michael Jackson kam im November 2003 zu einem Ende, als er eine Behandlung absagte, weil Michael Jackson “ein bisschen albern erschien, ein bisschen langsam reagierte”. Fournier sagte, dass er sich weigerte, Michael eine Narkose zu verabreichen, weil er vermutete, dass Michael ihm nicht die Wahrheit gesagt hatte, was für Medikamente er an jenem Tag eingenommen hatte. Trotz der langen Zeit von zehn Jahren, in denen er sich gut um ihn gekümmert hatte, hatte Michael ihn nach diesem Vorfall nie mehr angerufen, so Fournier.

                        Quellen: jackson.ch, cnn.com

                        Weiterlesen unter http://www.jackson.ch/the-jacksons-v...on-aeg-3-teil/
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                        Zuletzt geändert von geli2709; 27.07.2013, 13:10.

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                        • Jacksons vs AEG - Day 56 – July 25 2013 – Summary

                          (source : ABC7 unless otherwise indicated)

                          Katherine Jackson is in court.

                          Outside the presence of the jury, Jacksons' attorney Brian Panish expressed concern about next witness. Nurse and anesthetist David Fournie had conversation with Dr. Klein and defendants want to introduce that conversation in the testimony. Fournier is performing anesthesia in MJ, there's a situation that arises, Kathryn Cahan said. 'Oh, he has a Narcan implant,' Dr. Klein allegedly told Fournier, who then directs Fournier how to treat MJ. Panish said this was in 2003. He claims it's character evidence, that MJ never disclosed it to the nurse. He also claims to be hearsay. Judge asked sides to research if the conversation would be considered exception to the hearsay rule. Bina said Fournier didn't know what to do, he asked the doctor and changed the treatment. She said MJ admitted he had an implant after. Cahan: He's administered anesthesia, MJ stopped breathing for 5 minutes, Fournier had to breath for him. Cahan: That continues until he realizes there's a reaction to Narcan implant. Panish asked what the relevance is, said defendants are trying to introduce character evidence, which has nothing to do with this case. Cahan said the relevance is that Fournier asked MJ about changes from prior treatment. Cahan: MJ knew he had a Narcan implant and chose not to disclose it. He stopped breathing for 5 minutes in the middle of the procedure. Cahan said it goes to the issues of life expectancy, addiction issue, concealment of drug use. Judge is overruling the objection since she thinks it's been offered for the truth and it's hearsay. Defendants not allowed to use it.


                          David Fournier (nurse anesthetist) Testimony


                          AEG direct


                          Kathryn Cahan did direct examination of David Fournier. Fournier said he's terrified of testifying today. He's testified twice before.

                          He is a Certified registered nurse anesthetist, trained in the specialty of anesthesia. He did Bachelor Degree in Nursing and Master's Degree in Anesthesia. There's a board exam that need to be taken, Fournier did very well. There's a number of hours of continuing education needed to maintain license. Anesthesiologist gets bachelor degree in science, then medical school. Nurse anesthetist goes 2 nursing school, then same training as doctor. Fournier graduated in 1984 from UCLA, has been practicing continuously since that time. He's self-employed, works at outpatient surgery in Beverly Hills; works with plastic, reconstructive, orthopedics, gynecological surgeries

                          Fournier said he got a call in 1992 from a dermatologist's office, asked him to come by, stand by, didn't tell him who the client was. Doctor had a concern there might be anaphylactic reaction to inoculations. Fournier: I initially refused, I don't do that, doctor was very insistent, offered me cash upfront. "He said it was really important for me to go, since it was Michael Jackson," Fournier recalled. Fournier said the doctor was very concerned, didn't want anything to go wrong. Airway management is one of his skills, Fournier said.
                          Three to six months later, Fournier recalled he was called back to treat MJ. This was in Jan 1993.

                          Most of the records were destroyed due to time limit, Fournier said. Last time he treated Michael was in 2003, about 6 yrs before his death. He treated MJ for about 10 years. Fournier said he does not have all the records of his treatment to Michael Jackson, but has some. Fournier gave a deposition in this case. He provided the medical records he had pursuant to a subpoena. Fournier said he believes the standard is 7 years before a physician destroys a patient's record.

                          Some of the times I did not give him medication, just observed him, Fournier said. Fournier estimates he treated MJ 30-35 times, anesthesia perhaps 25 times.

                          Cahan showed a medical history form and anesthetic consent.
                          Weight: 130 lbs -- Date: 1/19/2000

                          Fournier said he always asks height and weight of patients and if he thinks the weight is off, he puts patient on scale. Michael had a number of aliases, Omar Arnold was one of them, Fournier said. MJ said he weighed 130 lbs in January of 2000. Fournier said he probably accepted MJ's representation. Weight is a factor in anesthesia, Fournier said. It gives a very rough estimate where to start the dosage. Fournier: I think he weighed between 130 and 140 pounds during the 10 years I treated him.

                          Cahan: Did he have a good appetite?
                          Fournier: Not really. I would ask him what he had to eat last and he would say lunch the day before

                          One time Fournier said he asked why MJ was down to 130 lbs. He said the singer told him he had been on tour, dancing.
                          Cahan asked if it concerned him that MJ was 130 lbs.
                          Fournier: No, he's lean, muscular, in good shape, so no

                          Fournier explained all the questions he asks the patient before giving anesthesia: medical history, medications, etc. The nurse said that if it's a regular patient, he would still take medical history, but it would be abbreviated. Fournier said he always took MJ's medical history prior to procedures.

                          The nurse worked on MJ at the following procedures: scalp reduction for burn he suffered, abscessed tooth, root canal, extensive tattooing on his lips, eyes, brown area, Botox, collagen and filler injections

                          Cahan: Do you frequently anesthetize patients receiving Botox or fillers?
                          Fournier: No

                          Fournier: Michael was special in that. Instead of 5 or 6 injections that people normally get, MJ would get 50-100. MJ got 100s of injections around the eye, various parts of his face. It's more than average patients, needed to be sedated to tolerate pain.

                          Fournier has been using Propofol since 1990. It's appropriate to use the drug mostly in operating room and/or controlled setting, he said. Equipment needed for Safe Administration of Propofol: Ambu bag and mask, Assorted airway equipment, Laryngoscope blade, Laryngeal mask, Endotracheal tube ready to go, Available source of oxygen, EKG, Capnograph, Ability to measure blood pressure, Pulse oximeter, IV access and IV fluids, Resuscitation Drugs, Continuos monitoring

                          Fournier said to keep patient sedated you also need computerizing infusion. It's a more controlled way to administer drugs rather than drip. Depending on the dose, the patient can breath on his own, Fournier said. Fournier read the label of Diprivan (brand name for Propofol). He said monitoring the patient is a full time job.

                          All the equipments needed are very expensive, Fournier said. He had about $70,000 invested in his operating room. "Every time we give anesthetic there's a potential for reaction," Fournier said. Propofol is not available in pill form and is not given as prescription to patients because it's an anesthetic, dangerous, Fournier said. If the drug is not in proper hands, administered with proper monitoring, it's dangerous, Fournier explained. Fournier said Propofol half life is 2-8 minutes. It metabolizes relatively quickly, patients wake up feeling well, there's anti-nausea in it The nurse said Propofol burns if not given correctly, can cause hypertension.

                          Cahan said she counted 14 different occasions where Fournier administered Propofol to MJ. He has record for 2000, 2002 and 2003 only. From 1993 to 2000, there are no medical records. He said he believes he gave MJ Propofol in 2001, but does not have records. He said he did not administer anesthetics after September 2003.

                          Fournier said his incomplete medical records show he administered propofol to Jackson at least 14 times between 2000 and 2003. He estimated he gave the singer the drug numerous other times over the years for a variety of cosmetic and dental procedures.He noted in his records that Jackson had a high tolerance for certain drugs, which Fournier said could be attributed to a variety of factors, including genetics. (AP)

                          Medical record from 4/11/02:
                          Omar Arnold
                          Weight: 132 lbs
                          Dr. Koplin
                          Multiple collagen injections
                          Additional drugs given -- Propofol 140 mg

                          Fournier: The street name (of Propofol) is "milk of amnesia." One time I remember he (MJ) referred to it as "milk."

                          Fournier said MJ was very warm, likable guy and they became friends. He visited Neverland twice.

                          MJ never told him he was using Propofol to help sleep. Fournier said he never used Propofol to treat a patient for insomnia.

                          The nurse said he had trouble some times placing IV on Michael Jackson. He said at times he would have to change places. Fournier said it required multiple attempts some times to get an IV line in MJ. "I think the most I had to stick him was 3 times," he said. Fournier explained that some times he would have to start IV on small veins on MJ on the top of his finger or surface of the arm.

                          Medical record from 5/13/2003 -- weight 135 lbs
                          difficult IV place, difficult monitoring anesthesia, high tolerance of medication
                          Fournier said sometimes he would go 6 months without seeing MJ, so he explained the risks of anesthesia every time.

                          Medical record of 11/14/2000
                          Weight: 130 lbs
                          Mentions Versed, 5 mg
                          Very high tolerance noted
                          Vitals stable

                          Versed is a benzodiazepine, same as Valium, Fournier explained. "He was taking a little bit more than I'd anticipate to keep him comfortable," Fournier said. Fournier's normal starting dose is 1 mg of Versed. This was a dental procedure.

                          The nurse cannot perform any procedure without a doctor present.

                          Doctors MJ saw:
                          - Dr. Arnold Klein (dermatologist)
                          - Dr. Stephen Hoefflin (plastic surgery)
                          - Dr. Allan Metzger (internist)
                          - Dr. Lawrence Koplin (plastic surgery)
                          - Dr. Edward "Lee" Baxley (dentist)
                          - Dr. Leslie Levine (dentist)
                          - Dr. Lee Bosley (hair restoration)
                          - Dr. Gary Tearston (plastic reconstructive surgery)

                          Fournier said it is not appropriate to give Propofol in a home setting. He would never allow a patient to dictate how to give anesthesia.

                          MJ was very concerned about his privacy, Fournier said. He could not even go shopping without being disguised. "He loved people, but people could be overbearing sometimes," Fournier explained. Fournier said MJ would have procedures done in the evening, came in the back door, bodyguards used umbrella to shield the camera. MJ used aliases, before he left they looked outside to see if paparazzi were not there. Other aliases MJ used: Michael James, Jack James. "Procedures were done at night to protect his privacy and for his safety," Fournier said.

                          Cahan: Was there a time you didn't think MJ was being truthful with you?
                          Fournier: Towards the end of our working relationship, yes

                          Medical records from 6/02/2003
                          Problems:
                          Denies any medical or medication changes
                          Three days ago slurred speech, heard on the phone

                          Fournier said 3 days before the procedure it was his birthday and MJ called to wish happy birthday. "His speech was slurred," the nurse said. Fournier testified Michael told him he was tired, or might've take something to sleep. "He was more than tired, he was slurring the words," Fournier said. "I assumed something was going on." Fournier said he quizzed MJ about the slurred speech, if he was using recreational drugs. He denied it, said he was not using anything.

                          Medical record from 6/02/03:
                          Dr. Klein
                          Multiple derm procedures
                          Weight: 140 lbs

                          At some point MJ had an unusual reaction, Fournier said. Fournier: I controlled his ventilation 4 couple of minutes, it happened again, I lightened him up, assisted one more time w/ his breathing. Fournier said Dr. Klein told him something during the procedure and that they spoke after about it. MJ did not tell Fournier about any recent changes in his medication, according to Fournier's chart.
                          Cahan: Did you form an impression after this procedure whether MJ was being honest with you denying any change of medication?
                          Fournier: My impression is that he had not been truthful

                          Fournier: The last time I treated MJ, a few months after, he came to surgery center. He was a little goofy, a little slow to respond. Fournier: I asked if there were any changes in medication, he denied it, I didn't believe it, we canceled the procedure. "He was acting inappropriate," Fournier recalled. He said he believes the procedure was with Dr. Klein and another doctor to do facial work. Fournier said he felt uncomfortable. This was about 3 months after the last procedure.

                          Judge: Was Dr. Klein there?
                          Fournier: Yes
                          Judge: And he didn't stop the procedure?
                          Fournier: Michael came in and I made the decision

                          Michael Jackson had a high tolerance for certain drugs and wasn't always forthcoming with his medical history, a nurse anesthetist who treated the singer testified Thursday. Witness David Fournier told jurors he had worked with Jackson for a decade until the relationship ended in 2003, when Fournier refused to participate in a medical procedure.Jackson was acting "goofy" and was slow to respond to standard questions before a scheduled cosmetic surgery that was canceled after Fournier refused to administer an anesthetic, he said. The incident came a few months after Fournier said he had to help Jackson breath while undergoing another procedure and later determined that Jackson had not disclosed a new medical condition. "He wasn't honest with me," Fournier said without detailing the change in Jackson.At the time, Jackson had an implant in his abdomen to block the effects of Demerol and other opiate drugs. Fournier testified that he had given the singer a relatively large dose of a powerful anesthetic and needed to know how Jackson was going to react. (AP)

                          After that, Fournier explained what happened to their relationship. Fournier: Despite 10 years of quality of care, and taking good care of him, he (MJ) never called me back. Fournier: I felt this period here, in June (of 2003), he wasn't honest with me.

                          Fournier said that post-operatively they want patients to go home with an adult to keep an eye on them for 24 hours. "I told him to go home and instead of going home he went to rehearse," Fournier said. MJ sprained his ankle at rehearsal for Grammy Awards. Fournier said he tells patients after anesthesia to resume diet slowly, told MJ to go home, have crackers, soup. But he said he happened to drive by Kentucky Fried Chicken, saw MJ's limo parked. Fournier tapped at the window and saw MJ eating a bucket of chicken and some biscuits. "He was embarrassed," Fournier said.

                          Fournier also testified that Jackson failed to follow his instructions in two instances after being sedated for procedures. Jackson went to a Kentucky Fried Chicken restaurant for a bucket of chicken instead of going home and eating crackers, he testified. Another time he went to a rehearsal for a Grammy show performance and sprained his ankle, he said.(CNN)

                          Fournier said MJ became a patient in 1992-93. He said in 1993 MJ announced he was addicted to prescription medication. Every time they met, Fournier said they talked about the medications he was taking.

                          Cahan: Did you ever administer an opioid/painkiller in connection with a procedure?
                          Fournier: Yes. Fentanyl, Demerol, Dilaudid

                          They are controlled substances to relieve pain, Fournier said. MJ said he did not like Demerol one time, according to the nurse.
                          Cahan: In the last times you treated MJ, did he ask you not to use Demerol?
                          Fournier: Yes, he said he didn't like it, didn't want it
                          Cahan: Did you ever have a conversation with Mr. Jackson where he said he had a procedure to block the effects of opioids?
                          Fournier: No

                          "My understanding is that the last time he had a problem (with Demerol) was in 1993, when he announced to the world," Fournier said.
                          MJ never discussed Naltrexone with Fournier.

                          Cahan: Do you know what Narcan implant is?
                          Fournier: I do now, it was not FDA approved then
                          Cahan: Did you have conversation with Mr. Jackson about Narcan implant?
                          Fournier: Yes

                          Fournier: Subsequent to the procedure, he said he have had one but it was out, that he was clean and didn't need one. This was late August/September in 2003, after the procedure MJ stopped breathing. Fournier said the discussion was probably pre-op call before a procedure. Fournier: I had become aware of Narcan implant had been used for his care so I asked him about that.
                          The procedure moved forward next day, Fournier said. MJ did great.

                          Fournier said he was sometimes paid for his work, but sometimes it took up to a year to receive payment for care to Michael Jackson.

                          Fournier said he ran into MJ in 2005 at the waiting room of a doctor's office.

                          Jackson cross

                          Every instance where Jackson was given propofol was medically justified, Fournier said. The 14 times he administered it between 2000 and 2003 involved plastic surgeries, dermatological procedures and oral surgeries, he said. He first sedated Jackson in 1993 when he was being treated for serious scalp burns suffered while filming a Pepsi commercial several years earlier, he said. Some of the 25 times he was hired to assist with Jackson's procedures no drugs were given, he said. He would just hold his hand and assure him it would be all right.Jackson never asked for specific drugs and never quarreled with him, he said. All of the doctors who treated him were respected physicians, he said. Fournier's friendly relationship with Jackson ended in November 2003 when he canceled a procedure because Jackson was "a little goofy, a little slow to respond." Fournier said he refused to sedate Jackson because he suspected he was lying to him about his use of drugs. "Despite 10 years of good quality care and taking good care of him for a long period of time, he never called me," he said. (CNN)

                          Michael Koskoff did cross examination. He wanted to talk about the thing that really got you angry at MJ. "I wasn't angry," Fournier said.

                          Koskoff recalled the day MJ called Fournier to wish him happy birthday. Fournier said he knew MJ had a problem sleeping. Koskoff asked if Fournier inquired 'Michael, has there been any change in medication since last time I saw you?' Fournier: Correct
                          Koskoff: And MJ said there was no changes
                          Fournier: Right
                          Koskoff: Something happened at that point to make you believe Michael had misrepresented that he didn't change his medications?
                          Fournier: I believe he denied all medications

                          Koskoff asked if MJ did well in the procedure on 5/13/03. "Other than difficult IV placement and high tolerance to medication, he did fine"

                          Koskoff asked in April 24, 2003 -- how did that procedure go?
                          Fournier: No problem

                          Koskoff: Did you believe he was lying to you?
                          Fournier: The problem happened after that discussion

                          June 2, 2003 is the date MJ had an apnea episode.
                          "Yes, I was upset about that," Fournier said.

                          Koskoff: And it was because you thought MJ had misrepresented he didn't change his medications, correct?
                          Fournier: Yes

                          Koskoff: Would you be willing to apologize to Mrs. Jackson for saying her son was lying to you?
                          Objection, sustained, irrelevant

                          Koskoff: You have no knowledge whether the Narcan implant had anything to do with the reaction in June?
                          Fournier: No

                          Fournier said he never heard Narcan as an implant, had never seen one. "I was told by two of his physicians there was one," Fournier said. He spoke with doctors Klein and Metzger about it.

                          Koskoff: If Dr. Farshchian said it was Naltrexone implant and he thought it was the same as Narcan, it would be a mistake, correct?
                          Fournier: Correct. They are two different drugs.

                          Dr. Klein told Fournier MJ had a Narcan implant, he went home, research it and could not find anything on it. "I know the effects of Narcan," Fournier said. It can cause cardiac arrest, tachycardia, defibrillation. Naloxene, which is Narcan -- Fournier has familiarity with it. Fournier is not used to Naltrexone, but said it's also an opioid inhibitor. Koskoff: Do you know the effects of Naltroxene in anesthesia? Fournier: It would have the same effect of this kinds of drugs, antagonist opioid effect and it's dose-dependent.

                          Koskoff: In approximately 10 year he never reported to you allergy to Demerol?
                          Fournier: In the last year he did (after he started implant)
                          Fournier: He never told me he was allergic to it (Demerol), he said he didn't like it. In the medical record, Fournier wrote allergy to Demerol. He said it was a code to himself to not give MJ that drug.

                          Koskoff: Did you use any opiates in June 2?
                          Fournier: Yes, Remifentanil

                          Koskoff: May, 2003 -- did you give him an opioid?
                          Fournier: Remifentanil, high dose, developed tolerance
                          Propofol -- 240 mg

                          Koskoff: If you assume he was implanted in April 2003, at this time (May) he had it on, right?
                          Fournier: Correct

                          Medical record from May 13, 2003:
                          Height: 72 inches (6 feet)
                          Weight: 140 lbs
                          Allergy: Demerol
                          Medications: Denied

                          Koskoff asked if Fournier knows what caused the reaction on June 2, 2003. "I have a suspicion of what causes it," Fournier said. "Very strong suspicion."

                          Fournier has no prescription authority in California.

                          Koskoff said about holding Michael's hand, if that was literal.
                          Fournier: Yes, it's literal
                          Fournier: the doctors appreciated someone monitoring MJ, he was very important, at the peak of his career, and Michael was paying me. "They were very happy to have me there to make sure Michael was safe," Fournier testified.
                          Koskoff: You said you literally held his hand?
                          Fournier: Yes, for painful injections, squeeze my hand if you feel pain


                          Fournier agreed that Michael never chose the drugs he administered, never asked for more.
                          Koskoff: You gave MJ Propofol and he never asked you for Propofol, correct?
                          Fournier: Correct
                          Koskoff: You called the shots?
                          Fournier: Correct
                          Koskoff: If someone say MJ had drug-seeking behavior, you didn't see it?
                          Fournier: Correct

                          All the doctors treating MJ were top notch physicians, Fournier said. Fournier about Dr. Klein and Botox: He was quick to tell me he was a pioneer and no one could do better than him. Fournier said he never felt MJ had anesthesia inappropriately and didn't feel like MJ was doctor shopping.

                          Koskoff: Did he ever ask you to remain under anesthesia for longer than you thought was necessary?
                          Fournier: No

                          "He told me he didn't like it," Fournier said MJ told him about Demerol.

                          Koskoff: Physically, during the time you treated him, did he look well?
                          Fournier: Yes

                          Fournier said MJ was very thin and frail in pictures he saw of the singer in 2009. Koskoff asked if MJ was the same as when Fournier treated him. "He was thinner," Fournier responded.

                          Koskoff: Isn't it true a fit and competent doctor would not give Propofol at home?
                          Fournier: Correct

                          Fournier said he uses Demerol in a limited basis. It was popular in the '70s. It's a drug used for pain, analgesic, opioid. "12.5 mg of Demerol is giving intravenously for shivering," Fournier said. The dose if from 12.5-25 mg.

                          Koskoff: You treated MJ over period of more than 10 years
                          Fournier: Correct

                          Fournier said they had a good relationship and MJ was a good patient. But MJ did not followed post-operative recommendations.

                          Koskoff asked if Fournier was more concerned that Dr. Klein didn't tell him. He said yes. Michael told Dr. Klein about it, Koskoff said. "You expect your clients and your doctors to be honest with you," Fournier explained. Fournier: I was angry at Dr. Klein, I was angry at Michael, I was angry at anyone who knew about it and didn't tell me. Koskoff: Are you still mad? Fournier: No, got over it

                          Fournier, a certified nurse anesthetist, testified about an incident on June 3, 2003 in which Jackson stopped breathing while under sedation for a procedure with Beverly Hills dermatologist Dr. Arnold Klein. After Jackson suffered a "somewhat bizarre reaction" during the sedation, Klein told Fournier it might be because the singer had an "opioid antagonist" implant. It was intended to help treat a dependence on Demerol, he said."You expect your clients and doctors be honest with you and I felt ambushed and was upset," Fournier testified. The nurse said it made him angry at both Klein and Jackson. (CNN)

                          Fournier said it's a small community (of anesthesiologists) and everyone talks to everybody about who they are treating. "Sometimes when it involved patient care, we talk to each other," Fournier said. Koskoff: If MJ was concerned that an anesthetist was talking about him having Narcan for drug addiction, would that be a valid concern? Fournier said he didn't understand the question, that he talked to other people treating MJ. Koskoff said there are 200-300 people in the anesthesia community. Fournier: If you're taking care of somebody and if someone else asks you, that's taking care of patient. It's not chattering. Fournier said it's usual for physicians to look at charts to see what kind of treatment was done before and the response he had.


                          AEG recross

                          Cahan, in re-direct, asked if 300 mg of Demerol in single intramuscular is a lot. "That's a tremendous amount," Fournier responded. "If you gave it to me I would probably stop breathing," Fournier said.

                          Fournier: Hiding information from person who's going to take care of you can lead to untoward event.

                          Cahan asked Fournier to assume MJ, beginning in Nov 2002 to July 2003 placed 5 Naltrexone implants. Cahan: Did MJ ever say he was on any medication whatsoever in April, May and June 2003? Fournier: All of those times Michael denied taking any medication. Cahan: So 3 times in 2003 he did not disclose he had a Naltroxene implant? Fournier: Correct. "He was not telling me the truth," Fournier said.

                          Fournier said that after he canceled the surgery, MJ never called him again on his birthday and never used his service anymore.

                          Koskoff asked Fournier if he knows whether Dr. Farshchian told MJ the implant had medication in it. He said he doesn't know. So if MJ didn't say anything about the implant, it could be because he didn't know it was a medication, Koskoff asked. Fournier: I'm going to assume if he's having a surgical procedure to implant something he would know what that is for.

                          Dr. Klein apologized afterwards for not telling Fournier about the implant.

                          "Some burn patients get hundreds of anesthesia," Fournier said, and Michael was a burn patient. "I knew he was in the hospital in 1994 after the burn, yes," Fournier said.

                          During cross-examination, Fournier said Jackson never requested any specific drugs, including propofol, during procedures or asked to be sedated for longer than was necessary. He said the singer didn't exhibit any drug-seeking behavior or signs that he was doctor-shopping. Fournier said he knew that Jackson had received an above-average number of anesthetic treatments over his lifetime, and many were related to procedures needed after Jackson was badly burned in a shoot for a Pepsi commercial in 1984. Fournier said it was not common to administer an anesthetic during cosmetic procedures, but the ones done on Jackson were complex and involved dozens of injections. Some of the procedures were near Jackson's eye and sedation was necessary to keep him still, Fournier said. Fournier also said he never had any indication that the singer was using propofol as a treatment for insomnia. (AP)



                          Partial Medical record

                          David Fournier, a nurse anesthetist, treated Jackson between 1993 and 2003. He has record for 2000, 2002 and 2003 only. From 1993 to 2000, there are no medical records. He said he believes he gave MJ Propofol in 2001, but does not have records. He said he did not administer anesthetics after September 2003. Fournier said his incomplete medical records show he administered propofol to Jackson at least 14 times between 2000 and 2003. He estimated he gave the singer the drug numerous other times over the years for a variety of cosmetic and dental procedures. Some of the 25 times he was hired to assist with Jackson's procedures no drugs were given, he said. He would just hold his hand and assure him it would be all right.

                          1993: He first sedated Jackson in 1993 when he was being treated for serious scalp burns suffered while filming a Pepsi commercial several years earlier, he said.

                          19 Jan 2000 : Weight: 130 lbs

                          14 Nov 2000 :Weight: 130 lbs , Mentions Versed, 5 mg, Very high tolerance noted, Vitals stable

                          "He was taking a little bit more than I'd anticipate to keep him comfortable," Fournier said.
                          Fournier's normal starting dose is 1 mg of Versed. This was a dental procedure.

                          11 April 2002: Omar Arnold, Weight: 132 lbs , Dr. Koplin, Multiple collagen injections , Additional drugs given -- Propofol 140 mg

                          24 April 2003 : No problem

                          13 May 2003: weight 135 lbs , difficult IV place, difficult monitoring anesthesia, high tolerance of medication.

                          Medical record from May 13, 2003: Height: 72 inches (6 feet) , Weight: 140 lbs , Allergy: Demerol , Medications: Denied
                          Remifentanil, high dose, developed tolerance
                          Propofol -- 240 mg
                          "Other than difficult IV placement and high tolerance to medication, he did fine"

                          2 June 2003 : Dr. Klein , Multiple derm procedures, Weight: 140 lbs , Denies any medical or medication changes , Three days ago slurred speech, heard on the phone.
                          opiates: Remifentanil

                          June 2, 2003 is the date MJ had an apnea episode. At some point Jackson had an unusual reaction, and Fournier controlled his ventilation for couple of minutes, it happened again, lightened him up, assisted one more time with his breathing.

                          Late august / September 2003: Fournier refused to participate in a medical procedure. Jackson was acting "goofy" and was slow to respond to standard questions before a scheduled cosmetic surgery that was canceled after Fournier refused to administer an anesthetic, he said.


                          Zusammenfassung von Ivy, MJJC #59

                          __________________________________________

                          Zusammenfassungen der vorangegangenen gerichtstage:
                          Day 1 - 50
                          Day 51 - zeuge Dr. Emery Brown Video Deposition; zeuge Peter Formuzis
                          Day 52 - zeugin Katherine Jackson
                          Day 53 - forts. zeugin K. Jackson; AEG-zeuge John Meglen
                          Day 54 - forts. AEG-zeuge Meglen
                          Day 55 - zeugen J. Meglen; Dr. Alimorad Farshchian Video Deposition

                          Exklusiv transcripts eröffnungsstatements u.a. (MJJC #1 ff.)

                          Zeugenaussage von Prince Michael Jackson Jr.; exklusiv transcripts von MJJC # 7

                          Deposition transcripts filed with the court.
                          Note : these are not the full depositions, they are only the portions played in the court.

                          Dr. Stuart Finkelstein Deposition video transcript
                          Dr. Earley Deposition video transcript
                          Tim Leiweke Deposition video transcript
                          Randy Phillips Deposition video transcript
                          Quelle Ivy, MJJC #50

                          Kommentar


                          • Jacksons vs AEG - Day 57 – July 26 2013 – Summary

                            (source : ABC7 unless otherwise indicated)


                            Dr. Scott Saunders video deposition


                            Attorney Adam Hunt did the questioning.

                            Dr. Scott Saunders graduated in 1997 from Brigham Young University, attended medical school at UCLA. Currently, Dr. Saunders works at Buellton Medical Center with Dr. Barnie Van Valin. There's also Dr. Debra Weinstein, who worked at Santa Inez Valley Cottage Hospital.

                            Dr. Saunders writes a blog entitles "The Love Triangle." Published on Saturday, Sept. 10, 2011: "I had a friend, Michael Jackson, who was very lonely because he didn't love. There were very few people he could trust and love."

                            Hunt asked how they became friends. Dr. Saunders said MJ invited him to his ranch. He didn't remember when but it was less than 15 years ago

                            Hunt: Did MJ ever come to you for medical treatement?
                            Dr. Saunders: Yes
                            H: For what?
                            Dr. S: I don't recall

                            He also didn't recall when MJ went to see him. Dr. Saunders worked at the Buellton Medical Center from 1998 to 2003, saw MJ within that time. Dr. Saunders: I received a phone call from a woman who declined to identify herself and asked if I would be willing to make a house call. "And I said yes and she gave me the address," the doctor said.Hunt: Did you treat MJ that day? Dr. Saunders: Yes. "He had an upper respiratory infection," Dr. Saunders said. Dr. Saunders said he drove to Neverland, there was a kiosk at the entrance of the house, he pushed the button, followed a car to a house. Someone let him in, he waited at the entrance for about half an hour. Dr. Saunders: Someone, a man, came when I was ready to leave. Dr. Saunders: He and took me in to a bedroom. There was a guy lying on the bed, he said 'I am Michael Jackson.' Dr. Saunders: I said nice to meet you, Mr. Jackson. And he said 'I'm sick.' Dr. Saunders did not recognized the man on the bed as MJ. He said the room was dark. There was a keypad that the man pushed a series of buttons and the door opened, the doctor testified.

                            Dr. Saunders works with Dr. Van Valin, but has not spoken to him about MJ's treatment. He saw MJ and Dr. Van Valin together. "We were all at a gathering at MJ's ranch, we watched a movie in his theater," Dr. Saunders said. He thinks it was Spiderman movie.

                            There were other times Dr. Saunders treated MJ, but he doesn't know how many. He said it's around 10 times, probably less than 25 times.
                            Hunt: What other medical conditions you treated him for?
                            Dr. Saunders: pain, that's all I remember

                            Dr.Saunders gave MJ pain medication for his pain. He doesn't recall which drugs.

                            Hunt: Do you recall giving Mr. Jackson Demerol?
                            Dr. Saunders: I don't recall

                            The doctor said he recalls using buprenorphine (buprenex) in injectable form. It is in the same class as an opiate medication.

                            Hunt: Do you know if he did receive other opiate medications from anyone?
                            Dr. Saunders: Yes
                            H: How do you know?
                            Dr. S: He told me

                            MJ told the doctor he wanted to get off pain medications.

                            Dr. Saunders: He said 'I don't want to end up like my father-in-law'
                            Hunt: Who was his father in law?
                            Dr. Saunders: Elvis Presley

                            Dr. Saunders said he gave MJ buprenorphine because it is an opiate agonist-antagonist, used to treat pain but tends to be less addictive.
                            Hunt: Did Michael Jackson ask you specifically for buprenorphine?
                            Dr. Saunders: Yes
                            Hunt: Do patients typically ask for specific medication?
                            Dr. Saunders: People who take pain medications know what works for them, so yes
                            Hunt: Did Michael ever tell you about getting an implant to help address his addiction to pain medication?
                            Dr. Saunders: No

                            Dr Saunders said he never heard the name Dr. Fashchian and that MJ never told him about any other doctor going to Neverland and treating him. The doctor said he gave pain medication to MJ. He had been to the ER with the artist at Santa Inez Cottage Hospital. He doesn't recall when.
                            Hunt: Why did you go?
                            Dr. Saunders: He called me because he had fallen I think on the stairs and had a foot problem.
                            Dr. Saunders: I think it was a foot problem, I went to see him, evaluated him, it appeared swollen, I recommended X-ray, took him in my car. "I helped him in," Dr. Saunders said about their arrival to the emergency room because MJ was having trouble walking. "I don't believe I stayed there. I probably went home to my family," Dr. Saunders testified. Dr. Saunders doesn't recall if he gave any pain medication to MJ before going to the ER.

                            Dr. Saunders said he was friends with Michael Jackson. They talked about everything. "He was rather lonely and didn't have anyone he could trust," Dr. Saunders said. "He would call me and I would go over." Dr. Saunders: Sometimes we would drive around the ranch in his Navigator and talk, would sit at the video library and talk, or in an office. "And sometimes I'd be saying 'you know I really got to go home to my family' and 'No, no Saunders, just stay a little while' the doctor said. Dr. Saunders: He said he had a very difficult childhood, because he was never allowed to be a child. MJ never talked about his father, Joe Jackson, and how he treated him. MJ went to Dr. Saunders house in Solvang, met his wife and children. "He just showed up," Dr. Saunders said. "The driver took him there, he knocked on the door." One time MJ's kids were present and they wanted to go outside in the sandbox. Dr. Saunders said this was the same time he saw MJ socially. Saunders: He sent box to my house for Xmas. I don't recall what was in the box. I think my children got aPS2. But whatever else don't know. Hunt: The presents were for the family? Dr. Saunders: Yes. "He left a popcorn popper, like the ones at carnivals, on the stand," Dr. Saunders said. Hunt: Do you have it? Dr. Saunders: No, I sold it at a garage sale

                            Saunders said he and Jackson eventually became friends. “He was rather lonely and didn’t have anyone he could trust,” Saunders testified. And so he would call me and I would go over." When Saunders would tell Jackson he had to go home to his family, the singer would try to persuade him to stay, the doctor said.The doctor said Jackson told him “he had a very difficult childhood” and had never had an opportunity to be a child, though he did recount “running around hotels with Donny Osmond, that kind of thing.” Jackson and his children would show up unannounced at the doctor's house in Solvang, Saunders testified. A driver would bring him, he said, and Jackson would just knock on the door."Were you surprised when he got there," Saunders was asked. Yes," he replied. (LATimes)
                            The doctor said he doesn't know anything MJ did to protect his medical privacy.

                            Hunt: What medication was he on?
                            Dr. Saunders: The only two I knew of where Demerol and Morphine.
                            Dr. Saunders: and I think I gave him oral pain medicaiton, don't know which, Vicodin type of thing.
                            Dr. Saunders said MJ wanted to get off of Demerol. "He asked to use beprenorphine instead," Dr. Saunders said. Dr. Saunders said he doesn't know if MJ's attempt to quit Demerol was successful. The doctor never went with him outside California.

                            "One time he was telling me about going to Las Vegas, how much he liked Las Vegas, buying things," Dr. Saunders testified. "He would go to the stores and say I want that, and that, antiques. He was really into antiques," Dr. Saunders recalled. "He said he knew them all, he knew which ones were his," Dr. Saunders said. The house of full of everything including antiques.

                            Hunt: Were you compensated when you provided treatment to MJ?
                            Dr. Saunders: I never asked for compensation and he would pay cash.
                            Dr. Saunders: He would always pay in cash because he didn't have no credit, no checks, no bank account.
                            Hunt: How do you know?
                            Dr. Saunders: He told me. I said I'd send bill he said you can't, I don't have any checks or credit cards or anything

                            Medical record from Feb 24, 2001 from Santa Inez Valley Cottage Hospital saying male who fell down the stairs a couple of days ago. Document says "his primary care physician is Scott Saunders." The doctor said he thinks it's because he brought MJ there. Emergency Department Course: "Given his inability to take oral pain medication without extreme nausea we have worked out with Dr. Saunders to dispense Demerol and Phenergan IM with some needles and syringes. I have specifically stated a medical care professional, a physician or nurse, must administer this medication should he need it. He is well aware of this, and in fact, Dr. Saunders has agreed to go by the home to administer the medication if needed." Another section of the medical record: "We have dispensed the Demerol and Phenergan IM with needles and syringes. He is well aware that a physician or nurse must administer this and he will be calling Dr. Saunders tonight. "Disposition: Discharged to home. Follow up with Dr. Saunders some time next week."

                            Dr Saunders said this medical record did not refresh his recollection and doesn't recall anything about it and/or speaking with Dr Weinstein. The doctor said the ER doctors treat the initial emergency and then send the patient to their doctor for follow up.

                            Medical record from 02/25/2001 -- Emergency Department Report "History if Present Illness: This is a 30-something-year-old gentleman who has been here twice before, actually, earlier this evening although it is now the next day, but he has been seen twice. He has an avulsion of the proximal navicular of the foot and has required copious amounts of pain medication who returns again in severe pain, no further trauma, no paresthesias and states that he Demerol which we gave on him last visit has worn off and he feels the pain escalating." Private Physician: Currently Dr. Scott Saunders Allergies: None

                            Hunt: Have you heard of MJ requiring copious amounts of pain medication before?
                            Dr. Saunders: I have never heard that word used, no
                            Dr. Saunders said he's listed as primary doctor because he brought MJ to ER or because the patient said 'this is my doctor.'
                            Dr. Saunders said he never determined the underlying cause of MJ's addiction to painkillers and that MJ never told him anything about it.

                            Medical report from 2/26/2001:
                            History of Present Illness: The patient is here because he had a fractured cuboid on his right foot. He has been seen multiple times for pain medication injections. He receives Demerol 200 mg and 50 mg of Vistaril each time. Today, he was casted by Dr. Scott Saunders and is feeling somewhat better but is having some pain in his foot. At this point, it feels better in the cast.

                            Medical report from 12/14/2001: The patient is a 41-year-old black male who was brought in by Dr. Scott Saunders from the patient's home. Prior to his arrival, Dr. Saunders had called me saying the patient had an injection of Demerol 200 mg and Phenergan 50 mg which he has had on a number of occasions in the past and did well. "Dr. Saunders had told me upon arrival to the emergency room that he obtained further information that the patient had another pain injection at sometime prior to Dr. Saunders' arrival that Dr. Saunders was not aware of. The patient only told him this after his reaction had occurred."

                            Hunt: Do you know if MJ was ever able to stop taking large amounts of Demerol?
                            Dr. Saunders: I don't know

                            Dr. Saunders does not know if MJ continued to receive Demerol injections after he stopped treating him in 2003.

                            The doctor doesn't have any idea who the other doctor was that gave MJ injection of pain medication on the same day.
                            Hunt: Does it bother you that MJ got or may have gotten a shot of Demerol by another physician without telling you?
                            Dr Saunders: Generally yes, that's a bothersome thing. Because the potential reaction or problems associated with Demerol are dose dependent So as you increase the dose, the potential for doing harm is increased. So if I am going out to give Demerol injection because of his broken foot, and meanwhile, some other doctor's going out there and giving him Demerol injections and it's too much too close together, he could have a bad reaction.

                            Medical record: "He has a med-alert bracelet saying he is allergic to Demerol." "When questioned, he says he had has Demerol many times in the past. Indeed, I administered Demerol to him at one time. He tells me this because he does not want to be 'given too much Demerol.' He has no specific reaction to Demerol itself. He tells me he has also tolerated Phenergan on numerous occasions in the past without difficulty."

                            Dr. Saunders said you wear med-alert if there's some reason you're likely to be found unconscious and not able to tell your allergies.
                            Hunt: And can high dosage of Demerol cause unconsciousness?
                            Dr. Saunders: Yes


                            Eric Briggs Testimony

                            AEG Direct


                            AEG attorney Sabrina Strong did the direct examination. Briggs is an expert witness in this case. He was asked to assess the projections of Arthur Erk, plaintiffs' retained expert.

                            Briggs studies Economy at Brown University and received his MBA at Anderson School at UCLA. Briggs is a senior management director at FTI Consulting and professor at USC Marshall School of Business. Briggs said he helps a media company put together forecast and assess risks of projects. Entertainment and media projects: looked at films, music, touring, video games, live events, pretty much everything. Briggs said he gets hired by film producers, production companies, record labels, banks and private equity that invest money. He has done work for talent agencies as well, like Creative Artist and William Morris. Other clients: Estate of Elvis Presley, John Wayne, Frank Sinatra, Bob Hope, among others. Briggs has worked in over 1100 engagements, 300 of those related to the music industry, like Rod Stewart,Bruno Mars, 50 Cent, Usher. Briggs has also worked in endorsement deals.

                            Strong: How many film engagements have you had over the course of your career?
                            Briggs: Probably 600

                            Briggs said some of his predictions have been inaccurate. "I don't have a crystal ball," he said. He has been doing forecast in the entertainment business for 15 years. He has testified once in an England tax matter, equivalent to our IRS, and on an arbitration case. Briggs mostly worked for companies that actively spend money in films.

                            FTI Consulting has about 4,000 employees worldwide. Briggs is charging $800 an hour. He has spent approximately 350 hours. Briggs has a team working on this matter, roughly 500-600 hours. Personnel on the team charge between $300-$800 per hour. Briggs said he has had significant involvement in most of the 1100 cases he worked on. "I'm not taking credit for somebody else."

                            Strong showed exhibit with Erk's Opinions:
                            - Tour
                            - Merchandise
                            - Endorsement/Sponsorship
                            - Las Vegas show
                            - Movies

                            Briggs said he analyzed the first four opinions by Erk, since Erk didn't project earnings for movies. Briggs did not analyze Mr. Erk's consumption numbers. Briggs overarching opinion on topics:
                            1- It's speculative whether these projects would occurred
                            2- The numbers projected are speculative

                            "My understanding is that damages cannot be speculative and I didn't want to prepare a speculative," Briggs said.

                            MJ had a prolific career which resulted in a catalogue that results in a lot of money every year. Briggs did not analyze that. He said he looked at income MJ would've generated for performing, going on tour. "My opinion relates to opinion MJ would have generated by working," Briggs said.

                            Strong showed an exhibit with "Erk's TII Tour: Speculative"
                            - No agreement beyond 50 shows
                            - MJ's drug use
                            - MJ's history of cancellations
                            - World tour depends on completion of 50 shows
                            - Performance Risk
                            - Execution Risk

                            "As of the date of death, there was no agreement that AEG or MJ would go beyond 50 shows," Briggs said. Briggs: MJ had a significant history of drug use, and this was significant to render my opinion. "There's significant testimony on the record from four medical doctors in this case regarding MJ's drug use," Briggs explained. Briggs: As part of my job, I'm asked to analyze all sorts of things, including drug use for someone who needs to perform. "It's all about the same thing: the risks," Briggs said. "My conclusion, based on the evidence presented, MJ's life expectancy was very short as of June 2009," Briggs said. "MJ was taking drugs in very dangerous ways, had history of taking drugs that had a long lasting impact on his health," he opined. Briggs: MJ had a unique history of great performance but cancellations, particularly in cases where they were practically certain to happen. The expert said MJ canceled a number of dates on Dangerous tour to enter rehab, canceled HBO special in 1995. Also, the Millennium concert didn't take place, theTwo Seas arrangement where nothing came of it. "The world tour depends on the completion of the 50 tours," Briggs said. "There's always a risk of whether the audience will perform and whether the artist will show up," Briggs testified. He said Guns N Roses, U2, Lady Gaga, Van Halen -- all cancelled shows that were pretty certain to happen. Those aspects helped shape Briggs opinion that Erk's projections were speculative.

                            "The four additional tours are also entirely speculative," Briggs said. They were based on Erk's personal opinion.

                            Briggs: MJ had agreed to do 50 shows when he died and was actively engaged in rehearsals.
                            Strong: Do you have an opinion on whether MJ would have completed the 50 shows at the O2?
                            "My opinion is that it's speculative whether the 50 shows would have been completed," Briggs said. "There was a significant heath risk in place and the length of the tour exceeded 9 months," Briggs explained.


                            Zusammenfassung von Ivy, MJJC #60

                            __________________________________________

                            Zusammenfassungen der vorangegangenen gerichtstage:
                            Day 1 - 50
                            Day 51 - zeuge Dr. Emery Brown Video Deposition; zeuge Peter Formuzis
                            Day 52 - zeugin Katherine Jackson
                            Day 53 - forts. zeugin K. Jackson; AEG-zeuge John Meglen
                            Day 54 - forts. AEG-zeuge Meglen
                            Day 55 - zeugen J. Meglen; Dr. Alimorad Farshchian Video Deposition
                            Day 56 - zeuge David Fournier

                            Exklusiv transcripts eröffnungsstatements u.a. (MJJC #1 ff.)

                            Zeugenaussage von Prince Michael Jackson Jr.; exklusiv transcripts von MJJC # 7

                            Deposition transcripts filed with the court.
                            Note : these are not the full depositions, they are only the portions played in the court.

                            Dr. Stuart Finkelstein Deposition video transcript
                            Dr. Earley Deposition video transcript
                            Tim Leiweke Deposition video transcript
                            Randy Phillips Deposition video transcript
                            Quelle Ivy, MJJC #50
                            Zuletzt geändert von rip.michael; 31.07.2013, 10:13.

                            Kommentar


                            • Jacksons vs AEG - Day 58 – July 29 2013 – Summary

                              No Jackson family member was in court.


                              Eric Briggs Testimony


                              AEG direct


                              Strong asked about Briggs opinion on the completion of the 50 shows agreed by Michael Jackson at the time of his death. The expert said it was speculative to assume MJ would complete all 50 shows in London. A slide shown to the jury relates to a world tour that would be speculative, Briggs said. (ABC7)

                              Slide: Erk's TII Tour: Speculative 1- No agreement beyond 50 shows 2- MJ's drug use 3- MJ's history if cancellations 4- World tour depends on completion of 50 shows a- Performance Risk b- Execution Risk

                              However, Briggs said numbers 1 and 2 also relates to the 50 shows in London. Briggs said MJ's history and manner of drug use and lasting affects are supporting basis for opinion that 50 shows were speculative. “MJ had a significant history of canceling projects, even if they were reasonably sure to happen," Briggs said. (ABC7)

                              Briggs said he evaluated Mr. Erk's numbers regarding the 260 shows. Jacksons atty Brian Panish asked for sidebar. It lasted 23 minutes. (ABC7)

                              Brigg’s opinion is that it’s speculative to assume that Jackson would have completed the 50 “This Is It” shows. He also thinks it’s speculative that Jackson would have performed a 260 show world tour, as plaintiff’s expert Arthur Erk projected. Briggs told the jury two main points for his opinion are Jackson’s history of canceling shows and his prescription drug usage. (AP)

                              Regarding the 260 shows Erk calculated, Briggs said the expert's projection was unprecedented for gross ticket sales and revenue perspective . Briggs said the highest grossing tour ever is U2 360 Show, which generated $736 million in ticket sales and merchandise. (ABC7) Erk had estimated Jackson would earn more than $1 billion on touring, merchandise and endorsement deals if he had lived. Briggs however said Erk’s estimates were out of line with Jackson’s history, and the history of other successful tours. (AP)

                              Tour Gross Revenues: Tickets/Merchandise 1- U2: $736 million 2- Rolling Stones: $558 million 3- AC/DC: $441 million 4- Madonna: $408 million

                              Briggs said what's actually received by the artist is much smaller that the gross number and it is based on the expenses of the tour. If the production is expensive, Briggs said the net to AC/DC members could be higher than the net to U2 members, even though U2 grossed more. (ABC7)

                              MJ's Highest Grossing Tours: HISTORY generated $165 million for 82 dates in 1996-97 BAD generated $126 million for 120 shows . Briggs said the Dangerous tour was not included because it was not reflected in the list of highest grossing tours of all times. Dangerous tour was cut short due because MJ entered rehab, Briggs explained. (ABC7)

                              Although one of Briggs’ charts wasn’t shown to the jury, he did see one showing revenues of the top 4 highest-grossing concert tours ever. U2’s 360 tour tops the list with $736 million in ticket sales and merchandise, although Briggs says that’s not how much the band made. The Rolling Stones and AC/DC are the #2 and #3 on the list, with Madonna ranking as the top-grossing solo artist at $408 million. Those are gross figures, and Briggs says it’s not clear how much each artist took home from their tours. He contrasted that with Jackson’s HIStory tour, which grossed $165 million, and the Bad tour, which grossed $126 million. The Dangerous tour didn’t make the list because it was cut short. Briggs would later show a chart showing it lost money. (AP)

                              For the “This Is It” shows, AEG Live projected gross ticket sales of between $94 and $107 million. (AP) AEG's Predicted Future Tours: Prod 1: $94 million Prod 2: $107 million (ABC7)

                              Strong asked Briggs how AEG's 2009 Budget compare. Erk projected $1.65 billion for 260 shows tour, he answered. "Clearly this is in excess of anything we've ever seen in the history around the world," Briggs opined. Briggs said Mr. Erk was projecting $900 million to be paid to MJ as net for tickets, endorsements and merchandising. Based on the record, this amount was nowhere near what MJ had brought home in the past, Briggs testified. Briggs said Paul Gongaware testified MJ's Dangerous tour lost money, it was not profitable. He also testified HIStory tour was a break even. Net is the value of tickets and merchandising minus all the costs to put on the show, Briggs explained. Regarding the HIStory tour, Briggs said, based on Gongaware's testimony, there must have been costs that made the tour break even. "What's implied is that MJ did not generate any significant net from this tour," Briggs said. (ABC7)

                              Plaintiff’s expert Arthur Erk projected as more than $1 billion in revenue for Jackson from ticket sales and merchandise on a world tour. Briggs: “Clearly this figure is in excess of what we’ve seen in the history of the world.” He then showed a slide depicting Jackson’s proceeds from previous tours. HIStory broke even, he said, and Dangerous lost money. (AP)

                              Briggs testified that AEG's budget shows that MJ, if he completed all 50 show shows, would've taken home between $22 and $31 million. This amount included tickets and merchandising, but not endorsement, Briggs said. Briggs: As Jun 2009, no endorsement was in place, no sponsorhip was in place. AEG Live had taken steps to secure them but none were in place (ABC7) Michael Jackson would have earned between $22-$30 million for the “This Is It” shows, if he completed the 50 concerts in London. (AP)

                              Briggs spent several minutes telling the jury that Erk’s figures were speculative and weren’t rooted in history. (AP) Briggs said Erk projected MJ would net $890 million from a 260 world tour shows between tickets, merchandising, endorsements and sponsorship. "I don't know how anyone can be reasonably certain this would occur," Briggs said. The highest grossing tour of all times was U2's 360, Briggs said, which was $736 million. Erk's projection for MJ to net was way above that. "It's completely out of line of with history, with MJ's own history and history of all other tours," Briggs opined. (ABC7)

                              If there's no tour, there's no merchandise, the expert said. Briggs' experience with endorsement relates to working with the estate of major artists, like Elvis and Frank Sinatra. They were approached many times by large companied to put their names on products to sell. (ABC7)

                              Briggs explained the industry uses a "Q" score data, which draws the likability of a celebrity or persona. Briggs said there are two major types of factors that companies take into consideration to select artist to endorse: 1- history in securing endorsement, relationship with previous sponsors 2- how predictable the artist is, how stable his/her actions are. "Companies are looking for safe bets," Briggs said. "They don't want to take big risks with their products." Briggs explained the companies are concerned about what general public thinks of the artist/celebrity. Briggs: The tour gross relates to people being interests in seeing someone perform. MJ was a great performer. But there's a difference between excellence as performance of stage and whether the company wants to align itself w/ performer, Briggs said. Briggs said the "Q" score data associated with MJ analyzed his albums' sales, actions taken by AEG, and MJ's stability and predictability. Briggs explained data companies calls people and ask how much they like a certain artist, their "Q" score. They then report the results back to the brand company to decide how safe a bet an artist is. Briggs received two sets of data: MJ likability MJ comparative group (Bruce Springsteen, Elton John, Justin Timberlake). Judge wanted to know what kind of questions the company asks people in the survey. Briggs said the question is about the person's impression of the artist, with normally 3-5 choices for answer. The questions are not as much if a person would buy a product, but their impression of the artist, Briggs explained. "Q" score survey: Question: What's your general impression of individual/celebrity? Answers: One of my Favorites, Very Good, Good, Fair/Poor. Briggs said it's useful to look at comparison w/ other artists, how they stack up against others that are similar to the artist in question. Briggs said there's data for "Q" score from 1990 to 2006, with some gaps. There's no "Q" score data between 2006 and 2009. (ABC7)

                              AEG defense attorney Sabrina Strong asked about Jackson’s prospects for an endorsement deal, which led Briggs into a discussion of Q Scores. Q Scores weigh the broad likeability of an artist based on a survey. Companies use the data to determine their celebrity spokespeople. Briggs: “Companies are looking for safe bets.” He uses Q Scores in his work advising clients and pulled data on Jackson from 1990-2006. There were several years of Q Scores missing for Jackson, and no surveys of his likability were taken after 2006. The judge was interested in how Q Score data is obtained, so Briggs explained it in further detail. Respondents are asked to rank celebrities in one of four likability categories: “One of my favorites” Very good. Good Fair/ poor. ackson’s scores generally declined after 1993, although there were some years in the early 2000s that his scores improved. By 2006, the last year Jackson’s Q Score was evaluated, he had a -7.4 rating. It had declined a lot from 2003 on. The rating means there were 7 times more people who responded unfavorably to Jackson than those who answered he was one of their favorites. Artists are rated against contemporaries. Briggs said in 1990, MJ was groups with MC Hammer, Billy Joel, Don Henley and Kenny Rogers. He didn’t explain who Jackson was grouped with on the survey in the 2000s, although Justin Timberlake was name as a possibility. (AP)

                              Strong showed a chart of MJ's "Likability," which Declined After 1993. The chart shows a Negative-Positive Impression. Briggs said that in 2006, there was 1 (one) person with positive impression for every 7.4 people with negative impression of MJ. Briggs said in 1993, MJ's likability was pretty well in line with other artists. From that point, it declined substantially. In 2006, Briggs said the chart shows that there were 7.4 negative impressions for 1 positive regarding Michael Jackson. Briggs explained that in 1993 there was a start of some significantly negative headlines associated with MJ, his drug abuse and other issues . There's no data available from 2006 to 2009. Briggs said he requested the data but was unable to get it. He said if someone's likability is so negative, they take those people off the list, since no company would want to align itself with them. (ABC7)

                              Briggs testified that he studied "Q score" data for Jackson, the trend of his album sales and his stability to conclude that Jackson had a low chance of earning money from endorsements and sponsorships. Briggs said that while Jackson was "a great performer" companies decide which celebrities to align their products with based on "likability" as measured by "Q scores." Jackson's "Q score" in 1993 was in line with the average male musical performer, with about one person of every two surveyed saying they liked him, Briggs said. That was the year Jackson announced he had a problem with painkillers, and he entered rehab.His score became dramatically negative over the next decade, Briggs said. By 2006, a year after he was acquitted in a child molestation trial, more than seven people said they disliked Jackson for every one who said they liked him, Briggs testified. Companies would be "very anxious" about putting someone with such negative "likability" next to their products, he said. (CNN)

                              "Brand companies appreciate artists can be great performers, but that doesn't mean they want to put their names next to the performers," Briggs said. According to him, Jackson's image rebounded somewhat in the 1990s, but it plummeted again in 2003 for several reasonss. For big-name labels, Jackson was a risk, because new scandals could emerge without warning, Briggs explained, and "brands are looking for predictability." (AFP)

                              Judge asked Briggs if MJ could've been compared to an individual artist, such as Justin Timberlake, as opposed to a group of similar artists. He said the norm is to compare with the average of the group with the artist in question. (ABC7)

                              Negative headlines about drugs and sex abuse charges greatly diminished Michael Jackson's earning potential, an entertainment
                              consultant said. Jackson's album sales dropped sharply from his peak and his "likability" rating turned dramatically negative after "significantly negative headlines, drug abuse and other issues," Eric Briggs testified. (CNN)

                              Briggs said Mr. Erk specified album unit sales for five of MJ's albums. "It also showed a significant decline," Briggs said. MJ's albums sale: 1982 -- Thriller -- 65 million 1987 -- Bad -- 45 million 1991 -- Dangerous -- 32 million 1995 -- HIStory -- 20 million 2001 -- Invincible -- 13 million (ABC7)

                              Briggs testified MJ had a significant issue in the media related to negative headlines in a broad of topics. That would impact a company's decision on endorsements/sponsorship. Companies are focused on selling, Briggs said. The expert explained there was a significant audience that wanted to see MJ perform. (ABC7)

                              He said AEG took steps to secure endorsements and sponsorships but was unable to do so. "I don't know how he can predict that all of the sudden the light switch would be turned on" Briggs said about Erk's endorsement projection. The expert said there were no endorsement or sponsorship deals at the time of MJ's death. (ABC7)

                              Briggs moved on to discussions of album sales, which declined over Jackson’s career, and he attacked the premise of a Vegas tribute show. Tribute shows only work if the artist is dead, Briggs said. He said Erk’s projections for a tribute show were also speculative. (AP)

                              Strong asked why Las Vegas deal was speculative. Briggs said there was nothing in the works, no budget, agreement or financing. Beyond that, there's no real precedent for living, touring artist, who has a tribute show. Briggs testified there aren't any meaningful, premium-type of show, associated with a living performing artist. (ABC7)

                              "In my business, just expressing interest it doesn't mean it's going to happen," the expert opined. He said they were ideas and he sees ideas thrown around all the time. Briggs: Las Vegas is a very competitive market. Every hotel wants a show that appeals to a broad audience. "It's hard to make big bets if there are high questions about likability and predictability." "Entertainment is about finding an audience," Briggs said. "No one can predict if it will be successful until you sell the tickets." Briggs said his understanding is that MJ's Estate did not agree to AEG's proposed Las Vegas tour. (ABC7)

                              Lastly, he discussed films and whether Jackson was assured of success in the film industry. His opinion was that MJ wasn’t assured success. (AP)

                              Briggs said in Erk's projection, MJ would go into movies, but he did not provide figures in this regard. Briggs' "Film Production Process": - Ideas - Development/Packaging - Financing - Pre-production planning – Production - Post production - Advertising - Distribution - Theatrical release - Profits? . Briggs said there were efforts taking place at one point for MJ to make movies. He considers it to be in the development phase. "It absolutely does not mean it would be getting to the end of the process," Briggs opined. Briggs said the decision to make films is multimillion dollar one. The commitment is very serious, you can't make movie w/ a million dollars. "A movie can be hundreds of millions of dollars," Briggs said. And a lot needs to be in place, like audience, distributors, etc. He said just advertising a movie in the US can be 50+ million dollars. Briggs said the last feature film MJ was associated w/ "Miss Cast Away," released in 2004-05 and it went straight to video, not in theaters. Briggs said that even at the distribution phase, it doesn't mean film will be profitable/successful. "It's all a risk up until this point." Only after 3-6 weeks in the theater it's possible to figure out if the movie is profitable or not, Briggs said. Briggs named some big films that have been disappointments: John Carter, Battleship, Jack the Giant Killer. Briggs: These movies had big actors, big dollars, big movie studios and big decision process that can't always be right. Each studio releases 15-20 films/year, Briggs said, and only about half of them are known to the public. "Just because you make something it doesn't mean it will go on to critical success," Briggs said. (ABC7)

                              Briggs: Mr. Erk simply stated he believed Michael would do movies. Briggs said there were periods of times where MJ would have great connections in the movie industry, then fire them only to hired them back. Great connections do not equate that things will get done, let alone be successful," Briggs testified. Briggs: "Not everything that's attempted is a resounding success." Regarding MJ's personal history with respect to feature films, Briggs was emphatic: "I do not believe MJ was successful," the expert said. "Even Mr. Erk said he was not successful in movies," Briggs said. Briggs: I don't know how anyone can project, with reasonable certainty, that MJ would be successful at making movies. (ABC7)

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                              Court broke for the day, and there were brief arguments by plaintiff’s attorney Brian Panish about Briggs’ billing records. Panish wants detailed records of the work Briggs has done on the AEG case and said the expert’s firm has been paid $600-$700k so far. Panish said he also wants to know what other work Briggs has done for AEG Live so he can address his “bias” on cross-examination. (AP)

                              Rebbie Jackson was to testify on Wednesday but is sick. Other witnesses expected this week: Debbie Rowe and Randy Jackson via video depo. (ABC7)


                              Zusammenfassung von Ivy, MJJC #61


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                              Zusammenfassungen der vorangegangenen gerichtstage:
                              Day 1 - 50
                              Day 51 - zeuge Dr. Emery Brown Video Deposition; zeuge Peter Formuzis
                              Day 52 - zeugin Katherine Jackson
                              Day 53 - forts. zeugin K. Jackson; AEG-zeuge John Meglen
                              Day 54 - forts. AEG-zeuge Meglen
                              Day 55 - zeugen J. Meglen; Dr. Alimorad Farshchian Video Deposition
                              Day 56 - zeuge David Fournier
                              Day 57 - zeugen Dr. Scott Saunders per video depo.; Eric Briggs

                              Exklusiv transcripts eröffnungsstatements u.a. (MJJC #1 ff.)

                              Zeugenaussage von Prince Michael Jackson Jr.; exklusiv transcripts von MJJC # 7

                              Deposition transcripts filed with the court.
                              Note : these are not the full depositions, they are only the portions played in the court.

                              Dr. Stuart Finkelstein Deposition video transcript
                              Dr. Earley Deposition video transcript
                              Tim Leiweke Deposition video transcript
                              Randy Phillips Deposition video transcript
                              Quelle Ivy, MJJC #50

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                              • Ich stell das mal hier ein. Das sind Auszüge von Debbies Rowe Aussage bei der Llods-Klage (die Aussage darf ja auch bei der AEG-Klage verwendet werden).
                                Sicherlich ein Hinweis darauf was in Debbies anstehender Aussage kommen wird.

                                From Partial Lloyds deposition

                                - Debbie worked at Klein's office between 1978 - 1997
                                Debbie arbeitet in Kleins Praxis zwischen 1978 bis 1997


                                - She was an office assistant but learned to make injections - most common cortisone injections.
                                Sie war Bürokauffrau aber erlernte Injentkionen zu machen- am häufigsten Kortisoninjektionen

                                - Injected Demerol to MJ on Klein's orders.
                                Injezierte Demorol auf Kleins Anweisungen

                                - Debbie was present at Bad Tour with Klein. Klein made his assistants inject Michael Demerol (100 mg ) when he injected collagen.
                                Debbie war präsent auf der Bad Tour mit Klein. Klein ließ seine Assistenten Demorol (100mg) bei Michael injezieren als er Collagen injezierte.

                                - Question : you said to media Klein got MJ addicted to Demerol. DR : He did Question:Why do you believe that DR : I know that.
                                Frage: Sie sagten den Medien Klein machte MJ abhänig mit Demorol?
                                DR: Er tat es.

                                Q: Warum glauben Sie das?
                                DR: Ich weiß es.

                                - Debbie Rowe : "Klein was above all that. Klein did what Klein wanted to do"
                                Debbie Rowe: "Klein war über allem. Klein machte was Klein wollte"

                                - Debbie Rowe worked with Alan Metzger after the Bad tour to get Michael off Demerol. (timing unclear see below) Debbie says Michael was visiting Hoefflin and Klein a lot and the doctors were sending her to babysit Michael after they gave him drugs.
                                Debbie Rowe arbeitete mit Alan Metzger nach der Bad Tour um Michael vom Demorol wegzubekommen. Debbie sagt Michael besuchte Hoefflin und Klein viel und Ärzte schickten sie zum Babysitten von Michael, wenn sie Michael Medikamente gaben.

                                - Debbie says Hoefflin gave Demerol, Versed and Diprivan (Propofol) and sometimes would put Michael under and say he did work on him when he did not. (She says she saw both Klein and Hoefflin's treatments) She says Hoefflins treatments were after Bad and before History tour. she says he would put Michael under for 6-7 hours. She saw this 3 times. She says she learned from Michael and Klein that he went to Hoefflin's office 2-3 times a month.

                                - Debbie sagt Hoefflin gab Demerol, Versed und Diprivan (Propofol) und manchmal würde er Michael darunter setzen und sagen er mache etwas an ihm, obwohl er es nicht tat. (Sie sagt, sie sah sowohl Klein und Hoefflins Behandlungen) Sie sagt Hoefflins Behandlungen waren nach Bad und vor der History Tour. Sie sagt, er würde Michael legte für 6-7 Stunden beäuben. Sie sah dies 3 mal. Sie sagte, sie erfuhr von Michael das er Klein und dass er Hoefflin Praxis 2-3 mal pro Monat besuchte


                                - Debbie says Metzger was the one doctor that cared about Michael and she called him after three incidents over three months. One was at Universal Hilton incident and Two times at Century City. At one time (Universal Hilton) he was loopy and with slurred speech, Debbie goes to the hotel and found Dilaudid given to Michael by Hoefflin for his scalp issues. She calls Klein and tells him Michael took too many and asks him what he wants her to do, take him to hospital. Klein says to her stay there and keep and eye on him. She stays with Michael for 2 days. Second one Michael calls her and he was rambling and she went to his house at Century City. (Partial deposition cuts here)
                                - Debbie sagt Metzger war derjenige Arzt, der sich um Michael kümmerte und sie rief ihn nach drei Vorfälle über drei Monate. Ein Vorfall war bei Universal Hilton und zwei in Century City. Zu einer Zeit (Universal Hilton) hatte er eine durchgeknallte und verwaschene Sprache, Debbie ging zum Hotel und fand Dilaudid, dass ihm gegeben von Hoefflin für seine Kopfhaut -Probleme. Sie ruft Klein und sagt ihm, Michael nahm zu viel und fragt ihn, was sie tun soll, nimm ihn in ein Krankenhaus. Klein sagt ihr sie solle bei ihm bleiben und ihn im Auge haben. Sie sagt Michael blieb für 2 Tage. Beim 2. Mal rief Michael sie und er war unruhig und sie ging zu seinem Haus in Century City. (teilweise Auszüge aus der Deposition hier)

                                - It sounds like Debbie gave copies of MJ's records to Metzger so he knows what's going on.
                                - Es klingt so, dass Debbie Kopien von MJs Akten an Metzger gab, damit er weiß was los ist.

                                - Intervention with Metzger: Timing isn't clear. At one part she says it was after Bad tour sometime 1989 - 1990, at another time she says it was before Bangkok part of the tour (which I mean is referencing Dangerous tour). At the later part it sounds more like 1993 and sometime between Super Bowl / Rose Bowl halftime and Bangkok. Between January 1993 and August 1993 is mentioned as Metzger intervention later on.
                                - Intervention mit Metzger: Timing ist nicht klar. An einem Teil sagt sie es nach der Bad Tour irgendwann 1989 - 1990, zu einer anderen Zeit, sagt sie, es war vor Bangkok- Teil der Tour (und damit meine ich verweist sie auf die Dangerous Tour). Beim späteren Teil klingt es eher wie 1993 und irgendwann zwischen Super Bowl / Rose Bowl Halbzeit und Bangkok. Zwischen Januar 1993 und August 1993 wird Metzger bei Intervention erwähnt.

                                - She says Metzger told her what to do to get Michael off Demerol, patches they used and other medications. she stayed with Michael every night for 3 weeks doing what Metzger told her. One day she comes and Michael has left for Bangkok. Their treatment wasn't finished. Debbie was told to meet with a doctor and give the doctor the schedule to be followed with the detox. Debbie was worried they would not follow the detox program and Metzger told her there's nothing they could do. She later says Michael had a relapse in Bangkok.

                                - Sie sagt Metzger erzählte ihr, was zu tun ist, um Michael vom Demerol weg zu bekommen, sie verwendeten Pflaster und andere Medikamente. sie blieb bei Michael jeden Abend für 3 Wochen wie es ihr Metzger gesagt hat. Eines Tages kommt sie und Michael hat Bangkok verlassen. Ihre Behandlung war noch nicht fertig. Debbie wurde gesagt, dass sie sich mit einem Arzt treffen soll und gibt dem Arzt den Zeitplan mit der Entgiftung . Debbie war besorgt, sie würden sich nicht an das Detox-Programm halten und Metzger sagte ihr, es gibt nichts, was sie tun können. Später sagt sie Michael hatte einen Rückfall in Bangkok.

                                - While they are doing the intervention with Metzger, Michael mentions anesthesia and being put out for a certain amount of time so he didn't have to go through withdrawals. They say no.
                                - Während sie dabei Intervention mit Metzger machte, erwähnt Michael Anästhesia und das für eine gewisse Zeit darunter gesetzt werden könne, damit er nicht durch die Entzugserscheinungen gehen muss. Sie sagen nein.

                                - History tour anesthesia are at :Lyon France, Paris France and Munich Germany - at hotels (Lyon and Munich and at an apartment (Paris). (this is the only times Debbie saw anesthesia for sleep). She talks to Michael he says he needs to sleep, she tells him it's not a good idea. Doctors explain anesthesia to MJ with warnings and saying it's not recommended. Debbie says to Michael "You could die, this is a little rash". Michael tells her he would be fine. Debbie thinks it's because he had anesthesia many times before so he did not consider it a problem.
                                - History Tour -Narkosen sind:.. Lyon Frankreich, Paris Frankreich und München Deutschland - in den Hotels (Lyon und München und in einer Wohnung (Paris) (dies ist das einzige Mal das Debbie Anästhesie für den Schlaf sah). Sie spricht mit Michael und er sagt er müsse schlafen, sie erzählt ihm, dass es nicht eine gute Idee ist. Ärzte erklären Anästhesie für MJ mit Warnungen und sagen es ist nicht empfohlen. Debbie sagt Michael "Du könntest sterben" Michael sagt ihr, er wäre in Ordnung. Debbie denkt, es ist, weil er Anästhesie so oft hatte vor, so dass er es nicht für ein Problem hielt.


                                - Time unclear but Debbie mentions Michael going to Klein, Hoefflin and Sasaki at the same time and she went with him to keep track of medications.

                                - Zeit unklar, aber Debbie erwähnt dass Michael zu Klein, Hoefflin und Sasaki in der gleichen Zeit ging und sie ging mit ihm um den Überblick über Medikamente zu halten.

                                - Debbie doesn't have much info after stop working Klein's office and divorcing.
                                - Debbie hat nicht viel info nachdem sie nicht mehr für Kleins Praxis arbeitete und nach der Scheidung.


                                - Debbie says Rish (Klein's partner) called her in 2009 after Michael's death complaining about Klein giving Michael too much Demerol and seeing him quite often.
                                - Debbie sagt Rish (Kleins-Partner)rief sie im Jahr 2009 nach dem Tod von Michael an und sagte Klein gab Michael zu viel Demerol und sah ihn ziemlich oft.

                                Quelle: Ivy, MJJC

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