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  • Hier ist ein Transkript von der gestrigen Anhörung. Denke mal das es die Anhörung tatsächlich wiederspiegelt (auch wenn es von der Taaj Malic-Seite kommt)

    Für mich wirkt die Verteidigung bei der Anforderung des Materials wirklich planlos.


    PEOPLE VS CONRAD MURRAY JUNE 16TH 2011

    These notes are taken from the official Court transcripts from the hearing of June 16th 2011

    Conrad Murray waived his rights to appearance Pursuant to 977, “Waiver of personal appearance.”

    For Defense, present today was: Ed Chernoff (EC), J Flanagan, N. Gourjian (NG)

    For $$ONY: Gary L. Bostwick (GB) from Bostwick and Jassy

    For the People: D Walgren and D. Brazil, Deputy District Attorneys

    Court: Judge announces all parties present: reviewed and considered motion to Quash filed by $ony and attachments and addenda thereto as well as the response filed by Mr Gourjian. $ony filed its motion late afternoon of the 14th Within the 10-day period; Court was informed counsel wanted to appear because they want additional time.

    NG: Had inquired about possible continuance, but dates were not good, after discussions with Mr. Chernoff decided to file whatever response we have and go forward with today’s hearing. In order to provide some light of the Opposition, we have not had time to put together a reply to the Opposition, so we would move to strike Opposition that would be our first position.

    We are more then agreeable if $ony needs additional time to our brief and put this over. If that is what they want, we are happy to do that. As far as striking our response I think we have right to withdraw out motion, reserve it until a later date.

    GB: The nature of the subpoena has changed drastically and we did not know this until Tuesday June 14th. We originally got “Any and all recordings of the Rehearsals” was subpoenaed, but on the Opposition page 3, it says: “$ony began its production from raw footage from two personal cameras” and this is all that is requested. We have spent hundreds of hours and put it all in that paper in front of you in order to be able to respond to the subpoena that we got. Now we see something different. Honestly, I can not tell you for a fact $ony has the raw footage from two personal cameras.

    I think we should have a right to respond to some of their points and authorities. The Court needs to see how we would respond to things they say about Journalist “Shields;” both theCalifornia and First Amendment “Shield.”

    We don’t know if we have what they are looking for. We need more time to respond to the Opposition.

    Court: has no problem with any of that. The concern is the scope of the subpoenaed material and whether in essence the Defense, through its subsequent pleading, has changed the nature of the Subpoena Duces Tecum. The original subpoena wanted “Everything,” now they say “No” we don’t want everything, “Don’t rely on what we say.” So what is it exactly you want?

    EC: It was our understanding from the Preliminary Hearing from Kenny Ortega’s testimony the “Raw” footage encompassed “This is it” Movie was taken from just two cameras, which Michael used himself. Our understanding is that was the “Raw” footage. So when we got $ony’s reply: “We are talking about all kinds of cameras” that does not comport with the testimony under oath from Kenny Ortega, so that’s where the confusion has come from. We understood the “Raw” footage that we requested consisted of specific items, and no MORE! We simply disagreed with $ony’s reply because it was different from what was portrayed to us. So, forgive us if the scope seems too great. We believed at the time of the subpoena those writings were consistent, now we have not had time to discuss what $ony actually has. We are not asking for everything. We don’t want all kinds of edited or enhanced and musical numbers. We just want what was filmed before there was a determination the documentary was to be produced. And, if you recall the testimony from Kenny Ortega, he explained how that was.

    Court: I still don’t understand. So, this is more then what was recorded on camera?

    EC: That’s for $ony to answer. I don’t know if it’s more. I don’t know if there is more then just two cameras. We thought it was just two cameras. Now $ony is saying its more, that is something we did not know.

    Court: But that was in the motion to “Quash.” $ony made it clear there was a lot going on and Defense came back and said: “We only want two cameras.” So, I still don’t know what it is you want?

    EC: Okay, Judge, $onys response disagreed because our understanding is that the “Raw” footage that we requested was the film MJ took himself, with aid of helpers and Kenny Ortega during rehearsals supposedly to be used by MJ to aid in his choreography and to help with production. That’s what we believed the raw footage consisted of so our response to $ony when they say there are 20 boxes didn’t make sense. We were told the raw footage was 100 hours, which is what Kenny Ortega said was from two cameras. Now, they tell us there is 100 hours, but from different cameras. So our response was: that’s not how we understood it from the testimony from the Preliminary Hearing. We are not asking for them taking the two cameras, creating whatever they do with it, splicing it, putting it in different digital forms, putting it in taped form. We just want what was provided to them of those cameras that were there recording MJ, essentially the period of time before his death. And if that is more then two cameras.

    Court: What is that period of time, beginning of rehearsals?

    EC: Yes. Now if there is more then two cameras, then obviously the footage from more than two cameras, then we want it all. But at the time we made our response we were under the assumption, as we were told by KO, there were literally two cameras: “The footage came from two cameras.”

    Court: Mr Bostwick?

    GB: There were more than two cameras! There were those two cameras, but I am not sure yet if we have those. The clients are looking. That material may have been transferred in the raw form to $ony, but several cameras were used! And now I don’t want to be insulting, but what the Defense is talking out to the both sides of his mouth. He says he wants everything, then he says he wants just the recording of the two cameras, and when he said that, he had looked at our response, so he already knew there are 20 boxes with 100 hours, so in the Opposition, which is a response to us, they say “just two cameras.” If we have those, we can make arrangement, but consider our concerns which I would like to go into further after this part of the discussion.

    But if they want everything then our motion stands the way it is, our motion is to the original subpoena.

    Mr Goujian and I talked on the phone when I first told him what there was. I said there is tons of material, no one until Tuesday at 2.50 said we are really looking at two cameras that MJ took to rehearsal, that we have not heard so I am confused. In fact, what they want is everything! And we are right back where we started. Now I would like to talk about the confidentiality concerns.

    Court: We haven’t got there yet!

    GB: Good!

    Court: What does the Defense want?

    EC: If everything to $ony means all the raw footage that was filmed no matter how many cameras, then yes we want that. But my understanding when we made our response to $ony was that’s not what existed, they claim not on cameras its in H.D, CAM, S.R DEIGI, BETA CAM, DVD form!

    Court: Slow down. I don’t understand.

    EC: I don’t myself! This is the information they provided us, that this is vast amount of information which they say they have wasn’t downloaded from 2, 3, 5, cameras. We just know from the testimony from Kenny Ortega (assuming he was telling the truth) where this movie came from! Now they are saying it is multiple cameras taken by A.E.G. or Columbia or $ony or whomever, then obviously we need “Raw” footage, that’s exactly what we are asking for. In our response to their complaint “it was oh so expensive for them” is my understanding is they downloaded it from two cameras.

    Once again they haven’t had time to respond the way we did. We have to address the Prosecution that with other writings and raw footage that is possessed by $ony! If it’s more than two cameras then we are asking for it. But right now we haven’t been told that it is more then two cameras.

    Court: Oh, I think you have been told.

    EC: $ony did not take that film themselves. They did not film the procedure at the rehearsal, so I don’t know if AEG did. We don’t know yet, but yes everything would include the raw footage, 100 hours; 100 hours even in digital, high def, digital is a hard drive of a certain size, so…

    Court: Just a moment everything does not include….

    EC: When you download digital information, if you are making a movie, okay, you are going to take that digital information and do things with it if you are a movie maker, that’s what $ony did in “This Is It.” Why they did it and what they did we are not interested in that stuff. We just want the raw footage.

    Court: As a lay person when I hear “Raw” it means footage that was taken whether it was downloaded or not? Blah blah blah...…

    The Subpoena is overbroad. It doesn’t say “only downloaded or not.” I think it just says “Raw footage.” I need guidance, Defense? $ony? Both sides are going to get guidance from me! As a lay person, clarifications need to be made of certain issues. Not going to strike response by Defense.

    Motion by $ony is well crafted raising constitutional and statutory issues and fact specific matters as well.

    Defense was well crafted Motion as well. Any Motion to strike response by Defense is Denied. $ony have adequate time to address the issue, but I still don’t know the scope of the Defense subpoena.

    Defense should particularize to $ony what exactly it wants. Defense should modify the subpoena. I do not know if there are only two video cameras or film cameras or some other type of cameras. I need to know what information is available about ALL cameras used at rehearsals. I am restricting the Defense as I have Prosecution to the two days before Mr Jackson’s death.

    I don’t know the definition of HD. CAM, SR that is in the Motion. I need some information about data drive storage devices. I would like to know if the actual original tapes exist? $ony alleges all footage is on data drive from different cameras stored in 20 boxes. Are these boxes numbered, dated? I am amazed by what is submitted by $ony that there is no way to tell what footage is in what box. Are there indexes? indices?

    Court: $ony has said I should rid myself of the idea that the materials will be the type as when we go on a trip and take camera or video.

    Is anything labeled or is it in disarray without being organized?

    I am interested in this because a film was made from these materials and I would think it would be in a more organized manner than just existing out there in the Cyber Universe.

    So, $ony has said the materials are on recorded media on data drives from different cameras. I don’t understand the meaning of this. If there are multiple cameras, how many more than two and can we disguish between the various cameras?

    I can inform Sony of my thoughts on the First Amendment and “Shield” Law Issues that were raised. I am unimpressed by the allegations that the materials Subpoenaed are somehow covered and Priviledged under the “Newsperson” Priviledge “Shield” Law under the Evidence Code in California. I do not believe that is the case nor believe under these circumstances that there is a First Amendment Issue that would prohibit the Defense from receiving these materials if they are otherwise entitled to receive them.

    I will hear more; however, I do not want to share with the parties my position on both of these issues. I do not see the Subpoena as implicating a “Newsperson” “Shield” Law Priviledge under California Law or under existing U.S. Supreme Court Precedence.

    I think the Defense-$ony has misunderstood the U.S. Supreme Court Case in Branzburg vs. Hayes (408 U.S. 665 and California Constitution, Article 1 and 2, Sub. B and the Evidence Code, Section 1), but I am willing to listen to more, but I don’t see that as the issue in this case.

    I am certainly sensitive to turning over the materials that could be thought of as a “fishing expedition.”

    I am also extremely sensitive to the Confidential issues involving $ony and the Michael Jackson Estate, as well as the possibility that if the materials are provided and “out there,” there could be consequences to $ony and the Michael Jackson Estate. I recognize those issues; however, if I were inclined to have $ony turn over the materials to the Defense, I would not want the Defense to be able to just “do with it what it wants.”

    I need some additional guidance from Counsel on the issues I raised and the issues that Counsel has raised and I certainly want to give $ony the opportunity to reply to the issues raised by the Defense in response.

    Court: Does $ony want to address confidentiality?

    GB: What the Prosecution will be showing comes from the film that’s already been published. It’s out there. The raw footage is “out scenes” that can be used for the future. Example: Anniversary type production. If it becomes public record, we require and order that the Defence or Prosecution will not show it to anyone.

    But if it becomes an Exhibit, we have a problem. Mr Hotz, Declaration, Page 3 talks about multiple cameras and data, we can provide what is necessary, but are concerned if it lease and goes viral on internet sites, the value will be demised to a significant extent.

    Court: In this case we are dealing with criminal prosecution, not civil, copyright or trademark case. The District Attorney made a powerful argument that the Court allow them to play for the jury certain segments of the movie because it disputes here among the parties as to the mental and physical condition of the Deceased. I accepted that. If the Defense feels there is material out there that helps them, then the due process and fair trial consideration distinguishes that in this type of a case. Also extreme interest is the contractual provision that in developing any material or any films that the descendent MJ not be portrayed in a Quote: “Negative Light.”

    So, the People seek to have certain material to establish the decedent in a “positive light.” One would not expect that the film would show anything that might be regarded as “Negative” as to Mr Jackson and that is exactly the Defense’s theory. There may be “Negative.”

    GB: I did not think that. I do not want to get into a fight between the two sides. We are aware the Defense has certain constitutional rights. In the media business we do that all the time with respect to “Voir Dire” and other things like that. But, there is a “Gordian” knot solution. I never thought I could bring it to your attention but will mention it. If the Court visits the ruling that “This Is It” can be shown when Mr Ortega is on the stand, this entire situation with respect to threats upon the rights that the Defendant disappeared.

    Court: Maybe, maybe not! I can just rule no side is permitted to show the Movie, but that may not be satisfactory under the Constitution

    GB: It may not, but I did that with certain amount of difference, but it may be implicated at some point in time.

    EC: Defense is sensitive to $ony’s rights as $ony is concerned about Dr Murray’s due process rights. I am concerned about their Intellectual Property. There has to be ways we can come together and protect both interests.

    Court: Good. I will leave it up to you to figure it out. Please take a look at another not cited by either party. It’s very interesting. It’s from the Second Circuit Court of Appeals from January 13th, CHEVRON CORPORATION VS BERLINGER, 629 FED. 3rd 297 dealing with Production called “Crude.” It addresses certain allegations Shenanigans involving The Ecuadorian Government, Chevron Corporation, etc.. There is some powerful language from the Judge. I am ware and value decisions from the Federal Courts, so please take a look.

    Can we address the issues at hand by next week? It seems like a short time; I am jammed with trials, blah blah blah…

    GB: I have Graduation to attend Friday next week.

    ALL PARTIES DISCUSS WHAT DATE THEY CAN NEXT ATTEND HEARING. JUDGE ASKS MR WALGREN IF HE HAS ANYTHING TO ADD? NOTHING TO ADD OR SAY. DATE SET FOR NEXT HEARING:

    JUNE 24TH 9.30 A.M..


    Zuletzt geändert von Lena; 17.06.2011, 23:21.

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    • Eine einzige Eierrei und ein einziges Verwirrspiel, inszeniert von Sony !

      Das ist das, was mir beim lesen dieses Transkripts aufgefallen ist !

      Die Verteidigung möchte die Rohfassung der gesamten Probeaufnahmen (ungeschnitten und unbearbeitet) sehen.
      Was ist daran so schwer zu verstehen ?
      Es ist doch völlig egal, von wieviel Kameras es aufgenommen wurde.

      Letztendlich ist es doch so, dass Michaels körperliche und psychische Verfassung während der Proben, die beide Seiten anhand der Filmaufnahmen aus ihrer Sicht versuchen zu beweisen, nichts mit dem Fehlverhalten, den Versäumissen, der Fahrlässigkeit und Inkompetenz von Dr. Murray zu tun hat.
      Er kann sich nicht von seiner Schuld befreien, selbst wenn Aufnahmen gefunden werden, die eindeutig zeigen, dass es Michael streckenweise nicht gut ging und er in keiner guten Verfassung war.

      Umso mehr hätte er sich um ihn sorgen und kümmern und die "richtigen" Maßnahmen/Behandlungsmethoden ergreifen und einleiten müssen.
      Notfalls auch die Reißleine ziehen und die Proben und Shows stornieren/vertagen müssen oder seinen Auftrag verweigern.

      Michael war derjenige, der die Proben dokumentieren/filmen ließ, es waren seine bestellten 2 Kameras und deren Mitschnitte, aus denen der TII-Film geschnitten und produziert wurde !
      (auch laut Aussage von Kenny Ortega !)
      Die gesamten Filmaufnahmen wurden an Sony verkauft, mit der Auflage, nichts zu veröffentlichen, was MJ in einem ungünstigen oder negativen Licht erscheinen läßt.
      Demzufolge und dementsprechend wurden die Aufnahmen für den Film gesichtet, gefiltert, bearbeitet und zusammen geschnitten.

      Murrays Verteidigung möchte das gesamte Rohmaterial davon sehen !
      Nichts anderes !
      Zuletzt geändert von geli2709; 18.06.2011, 00:02.

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      • Zitat von geli2709 Beitrag anzeigen
        Eine einzige Eierrei und ein einziges Verwirrspiel, inszeniert von Sony !

        Das ist das, was mir beim lesen dieses Transkripts aufgefallen ist !

        Die Verteidigung möchte die Rohfassung der gesamten Probeaufnahmen (ungeschnitten und unbearbeitet) sehen.
        Was ist daran so schwer zu verstehen ?
        Es ist doch völlig egal, von wieviel Kameras es aufgenommen wurde.s !
        Also den Text habe ich anders gelesen. Bis zum 14. Juni wollte die Verteidigung alle Probeaufnahmen. Auf diese Anforderung hatte Sony sein Antwortschreiben ausgerichtet, eben mit dem Hinweis des Umfangs (20 Boxen, Sicherheitsmaßnahmen, Wert der Aufnahmen......)
        Am Dienstag 14. Juni hat die Verteidigung nun die Anfrage geändert, wünscht Aufnahmen mit den 2 Kameras von MJ, obwohl sich dann im Verhör rausstellt, dass sie letztendlich gar nicht wissen von was sie reden. Gut können sie auch nicht wirklich, weil sie ja gar nicht wissen was wie aufgenommen wurde. Aber dann hätten sie es doch dabei belassen sollen alles anzufordern. Die Verwirrung hat die Verteidigung reingebracht. Und das Sony den Rechtsschutz haben will, dass das Material nicht leaked ist doch klar.


        Und das Gericht hat das Ganze ohnhin schon auf die letzten Probentage beschränkt.
        Defense should particularize to $ony what exactly it wants. Defense should modify the subpoena. I do not know if there are only two video cameras or film cameras or some other type of cameras. I need to know what information is available about ALL cameras used at rehearsals. I am restricting the Defense as I have Prosecution to the two days before Mr Jackson’s death.


        So habe ich das Ganze verstanden.
        Zuletzt geändert von Lena; 18.06.2011, 12:31.

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        • Zitat von geli2709 Beitrag anzeigen
          Eine einzige Eierrei und ein einziges Verwirrspiel, inszeniert von Sony !

          ......Letztendlich ist es doch so, dass Michaels körperliche und psychische Verfassung während der Proben, die beide Seiten anhand der Filmaufnahmen aus ihrer Sicht versuchen zu beweisen, nichts mit dem Fehlverhalten, den Versäumissen, der Fahrlässigkeit und Inkompetenz von Dr. Murray zu tun hat.
          Er kann sich nicht von seiner Schuld befreien, selbst wenn Aufnahmen gefunden werden, die eindeutig zeigen, dass es Michael streckenweise nicht gut ging und er in keiner guten Verfassung war.

          Umso mehr hätte er sich um ihn sorgen und kümmern und die "richtigen" Maßnahmen/Behandlungsmethoden ergreifen und einleiten müssen.
          Notfalls auch die Reißleine ziehen und die Proben und Shows stornieren/vertagen müssen oder seinen Auftrag verweigern.

          Letztendlich kollidieren hier wohl auch unterschiedliche Interessen. Während es der Verteidigung um einen Versuch geht, möglicherweise und wofür, darauf komme ich später zurück, will Sony natürlich seine Interessen wahren.

          Es ist nachvollziehbar, dass die Sache derzeit, mal wieder, einigen hier die Zornesröte ins Gesicht treibt, ich gebe aber zu bedenken, dass es ein rechtsstaatlich verbrieftes Recht der Verteidigung ist, Anträge zu stellen, wie es ihr beliebt. Wie diese
          beschieden werden und vor allem, welchen Erfolg sie erzielen, steht aber noch mal auf einem anderen Blatt.

          Ich bitte diesen Satz mit dem Recht der Verteidigung nicht misszuverstehen. Es soll kein klagloses Hinnehmen bedeuten aber etwas Gelassenheit in die Sache bringen, denn man erinnere sich daran, dass die Mittel, die die Verteidigung anwendet letztendlich auch ein wenig Aufschluss darüber geben, wo die Verteidigung steht. Wenn die Verteidigung versucht und es ist ein Versuch, nicht mehr, Michaels Gesundheitszustand in den Tagen davor als Verteidigungsstrategie zu verwenden,
          dann stellt sich doch unweigerlich die Frage, ob hier nicht eine gewisse Verzweiflung vorherrscht. Denn letztendlich ist es naheliegend, dass es für die Tatausführung, ob der Tod fahrlässig herbeigeführt wurde oder nicht, nicht relevant ist.
          Es war mal lange Zeit eines meiner Lieblingssätze hier, sinngemäß: solange die Verteidigung überhaupt was sagt bzw. tut, darf man hoffen.

          Somit zeichnet sich zumindest hier ggf. ab, dass die Verteidigung auf die Gesamtumstände setzt um ein mögliches Strafmaß eventuell damit zu reduzieren. Und man sollte es so werten, wie es ist, es ist ein Versuch.

          Um es kurz zusammenzufassen - Aktionen dieser Art sollte man vielleicht besser mit einem Lächeln quittieren, zeigt es doch nur, was die Verteidigung so auf der Tasche hat...... selbstredend ohne sie dabei zu unterschätzen. Denn den Fortgang und die weiteren Entwicklungen kann man damit natürlich nicht bewerten. Jedoch die alte Lebensweisheit - Schweigen ist Gold - kann die Verteidigung nicht nutzen, da sie in Verteidigungspositon ist ... ob der nicht günstigen Beweislast gegen ihren Mandanten, was anzunehmen ist.
          Zuletzt geändert von Billy; 18.06.2011, 12:30.

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          • Ich freue mich über ihr Ansinnen/Vorhaben, besser gesagt, begrüsse es, weil damit vielleicht auch endlich ein Auge auf AEG und deren potentielle Mittäterschaft/Mitwisserschaft/Schuld/Ignoranz/Profitgier/Rücksichtslosigkeit/ Verantwortungslosigkeit und Fehlverhalten gerichtet wird und es zu deren Aufdeckung hoffentlich beitragen kann !

            Denn noch versuchen sie alles zu verschleiern und zu vertuschen, peinlichst unter der Decke zu halten und eine Mitschuld weit von sich zu weisen !
            Zuletzt geändert von geli2709; 18.06.2011, 15:58.

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            • Hier sind noch 2 aktuelle interessante Tweets von Jermaine:

              jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
              reminder all: this aint a debate about Michael's fitness. It's about justice for a life taken
              3 hours ago


              jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
              let me be clear: Michael WAS fit & healthy & ready to rock the world when we last saw him in the may. no myth. no contradiction.
              4 hours ago

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              • Ich weiß zwar nicht, worauf sich Jermaine bezieht oder in welchem Zusammenhang und vor welchen Hintergrund er sich äußert, aber eins ist doch wohl klar:

                Zwischen dem 15.5.09, als Jermaine Michael zum letzten Mal sah, und dem 25.6.09, als Michael (6 Wochen später) starb, ist die Zeit nicht stehen geblieben, sondern hatte sich eine Menge ereignet und verändert !!!

                Der Druck, der Stress und die Ängste und Zweifel sind größer geworden, Michael hat noch einmal 15 Pfund Körpergewicht verloren, wurde krank und mußte mehrere Tage aussetzen, geriet noch mehr unter Druck, in dem er gemaßregelt, gegängelt und bevormundet sowie bedroht wurde, zukünftig keine Proben mehr zu versäumen, weil man ansonsten den Finanzteppich unter ihm wegziehen würde!...............nur um einiges zu nennen !

                Und ganz nebenbei tat Murray sein Werk und legte ihn jede Nacht in Narkose !

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                • Sony hat zugestimmt, dass die Anwälte von Murray alle 21 Boxen Videomaterial (über 100 Stunden) sehen dürfen. Diese dürfen keine Aussagen über den Inhalt der Boxen an die Öffentlichkeit geben.



                  Sony agrees to show ‘This Is It’ raw footage to lawyers for doctor accused in Jackson death

                  By Associated Press, Updated: Thursday, June 23, 10:06 PM

                  LOS ANGELES — Sony Pictures Entertainment has agreed to allow lawyers for Dr. Conrad Murray to view some 100 hours of raw footage of Michael Jackson’s rehearsals for his “This Is It” concert. But they are not allowed to make public statements about what they see. .
                  A stipulation filed with a Los Angeles court on Thursday said that the lawyers and Murray will be able to view the contents of 21 boxes containing audio visual recordings of Jackson’s rehearsals, which became the basis for a concert movie after the singer’s death. Murray is charged with involuntary manslaughter in the superstar’s June 25, 2009, death from an overdose of the anesthetic propofol and other sedatives. His lawyers are seeking footage that may show Jackson was not well in the days before his death.

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                  • Hier nun genauer aus den Gerichtsdokumenten :

                    Sony erlaubt Murray und Anwälten Matarial vom 15. Juni bis 24. Juni zu sehen an einem festgelegten Ort bestimmt von Sony
                    danach sollen Murray`s Anwälte eine Liste machen von dem was sie wollen
                    Sony sagt sie besitzen die Rechte von jedem dieser Anforderungen
                    Sony möchte dass Murray für alle Kosten dieses Sehens aufkommt (Personalkosten etc.). Murray stimmt nicht zu. Sie fragen das Gericht an darüber eine Entscheidung zu fällen.
                    Murray und seine Anälte dürfen keine öffentlichen Stellungnahmen über alles Gesehene geben


                    - Sony is going to allow Murray and his lawyers to watch the footage only from June 15 to June 24 at a location chosen by Sony
                    - then Murray's lawyers will make a list of what they want
                    - sony says they reserve the right to object to any of these requests
                    - sony wants murray to pay for any expenses for this viewing (personnel costs etc) , murray doesn't agree. they are asking the judge to make a decision about this
                    - it also says that Murray and his lawyers cannot make any public statement about what they watched whatsoever
                    Quelle: Ivy MJJC
                    Zuletzt geändert von Lena; 24.06.2011, 07:53.

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                    • Aber die Gerichtsverhandlung wird doch öffentlich sein! Was nützt denen denn, sämtliche Sichtung aller Videos, wenn sie sich dann nicht dazu äußern dürfen?
                      Erlaubt Sony denn auch der Anklage die Sichtung? Gleiches Recht für alle, oder?
                      Ich versteh das nicht!

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                      • Von der Vorgehensweise ist es so:
                        Murray und Anwälte dürfen an einem Ort von Sony bestimmt sämtliches Material vom 14. bis 24. Juni sehen. Nach der Sichtung sollen sie sagen welches Material sie davon nun im Prozess verwenden wollen. Und über dieses Material wird dann natürlich geredet, aber nur im Prozess.

                        Mit dem Schweigebot an die Öffentlichkeit schützt Sony ja auch die Rechte zu seinem Material, z.B. dürfen ja auch keine Auskünfte darüber gegeben werden welche Performances noch geprobt worden sind usw. usw.

                        Wenn es bei diesen Proben Michael in komplett schlechter Verfassung gab werden wir dies beim Prozess erfahren, da Murray und Anwälte ja offensichtlich die Intention haben dies so darzustellen. Wie ihnen dies helfen sollte, sollte es solches Materilal geben hat sich mit allerdings immer noch nicht erschlossen.

                        Hier auch ein Bericht aus der Huffingter Post dazu:
                        Read the latest headlines, news stories, and opinion from Politics, Entertainment, Life, Perspectives, and more.


                        Sony resisted the defense request at first and the company's lawyer, Gary Bostwick, said he was concerned the material would leak out and go viral on the Internet.

                        Superior Court Judge Michael Pastor said at a previous hearing that access to any footage would come with restrictions to prevent it from being disseminated on the Internet and elsewhere.

                        "If Michael Jackson materials are just out there, there could be amazing consequences for Sony and the Jackson estate," the judge said. "I'm not inclined to order that they just turn them over."

                        The parties later reached agreement.

                        "Sony has agreed to allow Dr. Murray and his counsel to inspect and view the materials in question at a location to be designated by Sony Pictures Entertainment," the stipulation said.

                        After the viewing, it said, lawyers will prepare a log of segments they want to obtain for use in Murray's case.

                        It specified that neither Murray nor his agents or attorneys will make any public statements about "the content or nature of the materials, their storage, their location or their quality."


                        The only issue left for the judge to resolve is who will pay the costs of personnel required for the viewing and copying of segments designated by the defense..

                        A hearing on the issue is scheduled for Friday but lawyers for both sides indicated in the papers they will ask for the matter to be continued to July 27.
                        Zuletzt geändert von Lena; 24.06.2011, 10:54.

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                        • Die Staatsanwaltschaft will offenbar eine Verschiebung des Prozesses.


                          Prosecutors want another delay in trial of Michael Jackson's doctor
                          By Alan Duke, CNN
                          June 24, 2011 -- Updated 1757 GMT (0157 HKT)
                          Los Angeles (CNN) -- Prosecutors want another delay in the start of the involuntary manslaughter trial of Michael Jackson's doctor, but the judge will wait until next month to decide the request.

                          "I'm not surprised by all of this," Los Angeles County Superior Court Judge Michael Pastor said during a hearing Friday.

                          The trial has already been delayed twice since Dr. Conrad Murray invoked his right to a speedy trial after his arraignment in January.

                          "When I got myself involved in it, I said 'It ain't gonna happen,' " Pastor said, referring to the original starting date of late March. The case has been "creepy crawly," he said.

                          Jury selection was under way in May when the defense requested a delay so its expert witnesses could have more time to prepare for new experts hired by the prosecution. Pastor then dismissed hundreds of prospective jurors and rescheduled the trial to start on September 8.

                          Deputy District Attorney David Walgren said Friday morning that the prosecution needed another three weeks to prepare because of "scheduling issues." Defense lawyers did not object to moving jury selection to the end of September.

                          Pastor, who said he "rearranged all sort of cases, including capital cases" to start the trial in September, said he would wait until a July 12 hearing to decide.

                          Also on Friday, the judge approved a plan to allow defense lawyers and prosecutors to view dozens of hours of raw video shot of Michael Jackson's last rehearsals. The video was bought by Sony Pictures for its film "[lexicon]This is it[/lexicon]."

                          Pastor hasn't ruled on what clips, if any, defense lawyers might be able to show at the trial. He has previously limited the prosecution to just raw video of Jackson's last two days alive.

                          Saturday is the second anniversary of Jackson's death, which the Los Angeles coroner ruled was from an overdose of the surgical anesthetic propofol, combined with other drugs.

                          Murray, who was hired as Jackson's personal physician as he prepared for his comeback concerts in London, is charged in the singer's death.

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                          • Ist dieser Artikel alt oder neu? Im Artikel steht das Datum 30.06.2011

                            Conrad Murray
                            Schiebt Schuld weiter auf Michael Jackson


                            Michael Jacksons Arzt behauptet, er habe sich die Medikamente, die ihn umbrachten, selbst eingeflößt. Dr. Conrad Murray verlangt vor Gericht, dass eine von Joe Jackson, dem Vater des Sängers, eingereichte Klage gegen ihn fallengelassen wird, da Jackson selbst für seinen Tod verantwortlich sein soll.

                            Der King of Pop starb im Juni 2009 an einer Propofol-Vergiftung, als er sich in der Obhut des Arztes befand. In den Anwalts-Papieren des Beklagten heißt es nun, der Star habe die Medikamente genommen, ohne dass Murray davon gewusst habe, so auch am Tag seines Todes. Demnach, so heißt es weiter, soll der Sänger für seinen eigenen Tod verantwortlich sein.

                            Ursprünglich hatte es in der Klage des Vaters geheißen, Dr. Murray habe den Angestellten der Notaufnahme nicht die Krankengeschichte seines Patienten aushändigen wollen und habe nur eingestanden, Jackson drei Medikamente verabreicht zu haben. Von Propofol sei dabei keine Rede gewesen. Bei der Obduktion des Sängers war ein Cocktail verschiedener Medikamente in seinem Körper gefunden worden.

                            Laut Anklage habe Murray der Polizei unterschiedliche Aussagen über seinen Patienten und die Medikamente, die er nahm, gegeben. Sein Patient habe auch andere Ärzte besucht, die ihm ebenfalls Medikamente verabreicht hätten und der „Leave Me Alone“-Star habe es versäumt, ihm eine komplette Medikamenten-Übersicht zu geben oder ihn detailliert darüber in Kenntnis zu setzen, welche Tabletten er nahm.

                            Murray erwartet noch ein weiteres Verfahren, in dem er sich der fahrlässigen Tötung verantworten muss. Der Beginn des Verfahrens soll am 12. Juli stattfinden.

                            Michael Jacksons Arzt behauptet, er habe sich die Medikamente, die ihn umbrachten, selbst eingeflößt ...


                            Ich sah gerade, es ist eine ungefähre Übersetzung vom letzten Posting von Lena
                            Zuletzt geändert von ANGEL-OF-PEACE; 01.07.2011, 16:51.

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                            • @AOP. Der Artikel den Du eingestellt hast bezieht sich auf den Zivilprozess von Joe Jackson gegen Murray, nicht auf den Strafprozeß

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                              Hier noch etwas aus den Gerichtspapieren zu dem TII-Material:

                              - Judge asks although he said "last 2 days" why they are looking into "3 weeks". Murray's lawyer says that there might not be anything in the last 2 days.
                              - Judge asks why this dates are important. From their response it seems like they are looking to the footage from the day Michael wasn't feeling well and sent home. (They mention June 20th meeting at home and June 16th producers complaining Michael not attending rehearsals.)
                              - Prosecution says they are surprised and thought that it was only limited to last 2 days. They ask to have same access to the footage as the defense. Judge is okay with this.

                              - Richter fragt, obwohl er sagte: "die letzten 2 Tage", warum sie nach "3 Wochen" suchen. Murrays Anwalt sagt, dass da in den letzten beiden Tagen vielleicht nichts ist.
                              - Richter fragt, warum diese Daten wichtig sind. Von ihrer Antwort scheint es, dass sie nach Aufnahmen suchen von dem Tag wo sich Michael nicht wohl fühlte und nach Hause geschickt wurde. Sie erwähnen das 20. Juni-Treffen im Haus und den 16. Juni wo die Produzenten sagen, dass Michael nicht an den Proben teilnahm.
                              - Die Staatsanwaltschaft sagt sie sind überrascht und dachten, dass es nur auf die letzten beiden Tage beschränkt ist. Sie fragen, um gleichen Zugang zu dem Material, wie es die Verteidigung hat. Richter sagt, dass ist ok.


                              Quelle: Ivy, MJJC

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                              • Eine Anhörunng wurde vom 12. Juli auf den 20. Juli verschoben:

                                Der Richter sagte er wolle dann wissen wenn das Verfahren weiter gehen kann. Es ist für den 9. September angesetzt.
                                Der Murray Anwalt sagt sie werden Wochen brauchen bis sie all das TII-Material durch sind. Sie hätten Tag und Nacht gearbeitet seit dem 28. Juni und erst eine Box von 21 Boxen gesehen. "So weit haben wir viel interessantes gefunden" sagt Gourrjan
                                Staatsanwalt Brazil sagt er arbeitet mit Gourjan, Ed Chernoff, einem Sony-Anwalt und einem Techniker zusammen um die Festplatten durchzugehen.
                                Gourjan sagt: Er glaubt es ist weit mehr als 100 Stunden. "Es gab 8 bis 10 Kameras und jede hat andere Aufnahmen und Sichtweisen. So es ist wichtig das wir das Material von jeder Kamera sehen"



                                By LINDA DEUTSCH AP Special Correspondent
                                LOS ANGELES July 7, 2011 (AP)

                                A hearing in the criminal case of Michael Jackson's doctor has been postponed because lawyers are bogged down viewing hundreds of hours of rehearsal footage from the singer's "This Is It" concert.

                                In a conference with attorneys on Wednesday, Superior Court Judge Michael Pastor accepted the requests to delay a July 12 hearing to July 20. He said he wants to know then when the involuntary manslaughter trial of Dr. Conrad Murray can go forward. It is now set for Sept. 8.

                                Prosecutors want to show jurors clips from the posthumous feature film "This Is It" to prove Jackson was healthy in the days before his death. The defense wants to show he was ill.

                                Murray, a Houston cardiologist with an office in Las Vegas, is accused of giving the superstar an overdose of the anesthetic propofol and other sedatives when he could not sleep. Jackson died on June 15, 2009, in his rented Beverly Hills mansion where Murray had been attending him.

                                Murray has pleaded not guilty. The transcript of the conference with the judge and attorneys was released on Thursday.

                                Attorneys indicated it will take weeks for them to view all of the relevant video recordings of Jackson. They said they have been working every day since June 28 and have gotten through only one of 21 boxes of materials.

                                "So far, we have found a lot of important stuff," said defense attorney Nareg Gourjian.

                                Attorneys have been barred from discussing publicly any evidence they find in the videos.

                                Prosecutor Deborah Brazil said she has been working along with Gourjian, defense attorney Ed Chernoff, Sony lawyer Kevin Vick and a technician going through material on computer hard drives.

                                Gourjian, who originally estimated there were 100 hours of footage from rehearsals, said he now believes there is much more.

                                "There are about eight to ten different cameras that were recording the rehearsals and each one has different views and different footage," he said. "So it is critical that we review the footage from each camera."
                                Zuletzt geändert von Lena; 08.07.2011, 13:31.

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