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  • Mal kurz in Form gebracht.....

    Der Anwalt von Casey Anthony beauftragte einen Berater dieser analysiert über 40.000 hochgeladene Meinungen, positiv und auch negativ aus dem Sozialen Netzwerk und Blogs.
    Er will dies als handwerkliche Prozess Strategie zur Verteidigung von Anthony nutzen, ob es nutzt?
    Letzte Woche wurde Casey, an den Tod Ihrer Tochter Caylee freigesprochen. Ob es daran lag das gebloggte in Sozialen Netzwerken darüber diskutiert haben, bleibt offen.

    Singer, setzt auf diese Pro bono Taktik der Netzwerk, wie Facebook und Twitter dadurch könnte Anwälte Ihre Kunden besser verteidigen. Der Mordprozess Anthony revolutioniert dies durch das große Interesse in den Netzwerken.

    Für Prof. Shiv Persaud ist es das erstmal das Er so eine Beratung und eine Studie darüber machen muß.
    Er redet über eine NEUE ART VON WERKZEUG.

    Nach den Verhandlungstag scannt ein Team ALLES aus dem WEB. Analysiert und ausgewertet, was dort für Meinungen geschrieben werden....
    Das wurde dann Beaz zugeführt, Verteidiger von Anthony, Er konnte dadurch eine optimale Strategie entwickeln.

    Singer, mit 32Jahren Berufserfahrung hat so etwas noch nicht gesehen. Soziale Netzwerke sind ein Werkzeug und kann durchaus entscheidend sein......



    So dann Murray, kannste mal einpacken.....Wenn es WIRKLICH gilt, das ALLES analysiert wird.
    Zuletzt geändert von TrueCrypt; 23.08.2011, 16:07.

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    • Soziale Netzwerke in Gerichtsverhandlungen einbeziehen?? Und dann stimmt womöglich die Allgemeinheit per Twitter darüber ab, ob jemand schuldig ist oder nicht...
      Mh. Ich weiß ja nicht. Find ich auf Anhieb erstmal echt fragwürdig. Naja. Andererseits, vielleicht sollten wir unseren Teil dazu beitragen und denen einen Link zu unserem Forums-Miss-Marple-Thread von damals schicken? Den müssten sie sich dann nur noch übersetzen lassen, dann sind die für den Prozess bestens gerüstet

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      • NEW TWEET EDIT
        KarlaJorge
        Posted 8 days ago


        Justice for Michael Advocacy Request. Please Share & Retweet


        It's time for #JUSTICE4MJ advocates to come together and do a little work in preparation for the upcoming trial. The media is already gearing up for their biggest moneymaker this year with the usual lies and misinformation.

        This may not cure the ignorance being spewed on TV but it may help to educate a few and to make some others think a little beyond what they are told by the media. Various programs have started their countdown to the Dr. Conrad Murray trial and the things we've seen and heard are absolutely outrageous.

        Not that we didn't know this is what would happen, but it should be expected that they at least talk about Conrad Murray since he is one on trial. However, we've found that they choose to totally dissect Michael again, instead.

        Dr. Drew Pinsky on HLN has been on this topic daily since last week. He brings in people whom he presents as Michael Jackson friends, close Jackson family friends and others from other cases whom he suggests are similar situations, which really are NOT. For example now-suspended lawyer and camera-whore Brian Oxman, Deepak Chopra, Damon Elliot (Dionne Warwick's son http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JZpd2_Xxls), and Anna Nicole Smith's Dr. who was charged with enabling her with prescription drugs but found not guilty. Anna-Nicole's death is nothing like Michael's and they are not comparable. As for the rest of these people, none of them are experts, nor were they around Michael enough, to know what was going on.
        Dr. Drew made a horrific introduction to his show last Tuesday where he introduced Michael by repeating the same old tabloid junk we've heard in the past. He claimed Michael had no nose and that is why he wore a mask, he claimed Michael bleached his skin and worst of all, he called him "*****".

        On Wednesday night he talked about Jason Pfeffier and how he claims in his lawsuit against Dr. Klein, that Klein filled prescriptions under other aliases, over-prescribed and over-medicated MJ up to the point he could not walk out of his office without assistance.

        This is also being taken out of context if one does not consider the reasons MJ visited Klein and what procedures were being done that required sedation, and other medications. Why would Dr Drew give any credence to what Jason Pfeiffer has to say regarding medical issues? He is not a doctor and furthermore obviously has his own agenda.

        UPDATE: Last week Dr. Drew was better in his judgement when guests tried to blame Michael because of alleged "drug addiction" and he said that the patient should never be blamed. But tomorow he is having an Ex-Chief of Security from Neverland to discuss what happened behind the gates. Although I wasn't able to hear the name of who it is, I fear it may be a slanderous ex-employee who testified against Michael in 2005. Again Dr. Drew bringing in guests to talk about Michael when the one in perspective should be Dr. Murray, while we are still awaiting the experts he should be bringing in instead.

        We must respond to these ignorant reports with facts, answer the questions they present to the public on their social networking sites, post links to facts and blogs with correct information and research, and suggest alternative guests they should invite to discuss the trial. These people should be EXPERTS in fields which are relevant to the case against Murray, not people who did not know and were not around Michael, and/or who are just searching for 5 minutes of fame.


        Some experts to suggest are:

        Dr. Patrick Treacy

        Dr. Barry Friedberg

        Dr. Johnny Benjamin

        Aphrodite Jones

        Other Doctors, Anesthesiologists and Propofol experts


        In his affidavit, Murray has admitted to giving MJ certain medications - does Dr Drew think this was the right course of action, medically speaking? One of a doctor's responsibilities is to "First do no harm". Murray was responsible for one patient but that patient died under his hands as a result of what he administered.


        The point needs to be clear that the one under scrutiny for his action and inactions to take care of his patient is Dr. CONRAD MURRAY and not the victim who is deceased and died under his care. In a doctor/patient relationship it is the doctor who has the power, the patient is the vulnerable one. "Homicide at the hands of another" - isn't that what the Death Certificate says? That is why Murray is on trial.



        Some examples of tweets or comments that have been made are these, you can use them, or make your own, have them handy and copy/paste, repeat them over and over everyday or every opportunity that you can, they must be seen.



        Anyone that compares MJ to Anna Nicole Smith has no understanding of pharmacology, addiction OR autopsy reports @DrDrewHLN

        @DrDrewHLN Experts state Conrad Murray violated 18 standards of care while "caring" for MJ--why not discuss that rather than MJ's "addiction"?

        @DrDrewHLN Have you looked into the Lorazepam level (169 ng/ml) and looked at the evidence that supports MJ was sedated well before his death?

        @DrDrewHLN Why don't you invite a REAL MD onto your show who actually treated MJ-- his name is Dr. Patrick Treacy.

        @DrDrewHLN Are you basing your assumptions on Conrad Murray's "story" which can be proven false with scientific evidence?

        @DrDrewHLN Conrad Murray claims MJ was unable to "sleep" the entire morning yet Murray was on his phone all AM--does that make sense? No.

        @DrDrewHLN Furthermore, no one's death should ever be sensationalized. It is sick and disrespectful.

        @DrDrewHLN How about discussing why a cardiologist would claim to be a "propofol expert"?

        @DrDrewHLN Read the autopsy report, the search warrants, the court testimony and SEEK the FACTS!

        @DrDrewHLN By condemning the victim and defending a doctor of death you are putting yourself in the SAME CLASS as Doctor Murray.

        @DrDrewHLN What you WILL find is a suspicious case of a healthy 50 year old man deceased from the act of HOMICIDE via INJECTION by ANOTHER.

        Was he pill shopping? Read form 3A. The answer is NO! Insane speculation says more about @DrDrewHLN than MJ!

        @DrDrewHLN DEA investigation did NOT find any evidence of pill shopping. Please stick to facts.

        @DrDrewHLN Dr. Barry Friedberg, Bd Cert. Anesthesiologist, says MJ's death was a preventable tragedy. U should spk to him-an actual expert.

        "He doesn't need to talk about Michael not having a nose, bleaching his skin and Dr. Murray the pitiful Dr. who has to pay for the death of an addict, sorry but you never blame the dead unless they did it themselves, Murray killed him and it has nothing to do with Michael's previous alleged problems. It is not about denying MJ may have had a problem, it's about the actions of a DR who administered drugs without the proper setting or care. The drugs found in his home and in his system were none of the ones he supposedly had a problem with. Propofol is not addictive, it may be abused by people but not because the body craves it."

        The victim here is Michael, he is deceased, STOP the blame the victim attitude and respect Michael, that is the first step. Then take the TIME to read about this case and especially the AUTOPSY REPORT, do your research on PROPOFOL and SEDATIVES. BRING IN EXPERTS on PROPOFOL and SEDATIVES, not people who claim to know Michael and have been close friends who don't know, they are only attention grabbing vultures. The facts are in the Autopsy Report, WHAT drugs killed him, HOW he was killed, and the state of his body and health at the time. He had a NOSE, and he had VITILIGO, so stop using TABLOID reports from the past and get to the PRESENT FACTS!



        Some sites and links that can be cited, linked and posted are:


        Seven doctors who treated Michael Jackson in the years before his death will not face charges, US investigators say.


        Now that they are reluctantly letting go of Casey Anthony coverage, HLN already found its next rating grabber. Conrad Murray Trial didn’t ...


        On June 25, 2009, “Dr” Conrad Murray killed Michael Jackson. Subsequently, he was charged with one count of involuntary manslaughter and no...




        http://investigation.discovery.com/v...-drug-use.html A. Jones on Michael's drug use.

        http://investigation.discovery.com/v...y-defense.html - A. Jones on Conrad Murray's defense.

        This is the most complete autopsy report available publicly regarding Michael Jackson's death. As much as I hate uploading it here for view I find it necessary given the rumors and false information out there regarding his health and drug use especially.


        http://www.reflectionsonthedance.com...sTheTruth.html - all about what the autopsy revealed

        I am literally tired of seeing this article reproduced everywhere. At the same time, I am tired of trying to reply to it everywhere, too. ...


        Michael Jackson Did Not Administer Propofol to Himself--A Medical Perspective Introduction: A few months ago I caught wind that Conrad Murra...


        Copyright 2010 Please do not reproduce this information without consent. The capacity to become physically addicted to propofol has not been...


        When one looks at previous cases where propofol ultimately caused the death of someone in a residence, though they are few and far between, ...


        The following blog is basically a stream-of-consciousness narrative concerning the best-known/developed time line of Conrad Murray's phone c...



        http://www.mj-777.com/?p=7251 - Dr. Barry Friedberg: "Michael's Death, a Predictable, Avoidable Tragedy"

        http://www.mj-777.com/?p=7958 - explosive claims by Dr. Patrick Treacy about MJ's death, banned by the press

        http://www.mj-777.com/?p=7534 - Lisa the Lawyer completely deflates Conrad Murray's defense

        http://www.twitlonger.com/show/c9othf (Michael's 30-year makeup artist on his nose - yes he did have one and it was fine - this is also the person who did his makeup for the last time before he was intered)

        http://www.mj-777.com/?p=6148 - David Nordahl - friend of Michael's for over 20 years, confirms that that he had vitiligo

        http://www.mj-777.com/?p=5453 - Conrad Murrays ridiculous attempts at defending the indefensible



        These are some of the pages that can be monitored and checked for updates on their shows, posts about their contents for the day and for questions they may post for people to participate and comment among other things.





        http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form5.html?124 (Submit our thoughts on what he is presenting on his show. State what we think happened that fateful day, suggest people he should bring in to interview, send links of where information may be found, facts, etc)











        


        Also, Twitter accounts that we can tweet to:





















        www.twitter.com/InSession (This one will most likely be the one broadcasting the trial Live)


        I will be updating this XL tweet when necessary, as things change and when new things come up to keep it up to the current happenings. Also open to any suggestions from anyone who want to contribute and send more info.


        Zuletzt geändert von geli2709; 23.08.2011, 19:31.

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        • Zitat von Zodiac Beitrag anzeigen
          Den müssten sie sich dann nur noch übersetzen lassen, dann sind die für den Prozess bestens gerüstet
          man Zodiac, du lebst ja noch voll in der steinzeit! "übersetzen lassen".....wozu gibt es google-übersetzung?
          google und twitter, da steigt die rate von unschuldig hingerichtete (usa cä 15%) auf 50%. das volk liebt soetwas.

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          • Zitat von Memphis Beitrag anzeigen
            man Zodiac, du lebst ja noch voll in der steinzeit! "übersetzen lassen".....wozu gibt es google-übersetzung?
            Pff, ich lege eben Wert auf Qualität

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            • Interview mit MIKE LA PERRUQUE, ehemaliger Sicherheitschef auf Neverland, fragt man sich echt was diese Fragen überhaupt mit dem Prozess zu tun haben und das Zeigen der Balkonszene darf auch nicht fehlen.
              Wann wird eigentlich das Leben von Murray beleuchtet?????


              Now, next, the man responsible for protecting the lives of Michael Jackson and his children, no one had more access to the "King of Pop" or the intimate details of his life. Michael Jackson`s former chief of security is here with me after the break.

              Stay with us.

              (COMMERCIAL BREAK)

              DR. DREW PINSKY, HOST: Breaking news in the upcoming manslaughter trial of Michael Jackson`s Dr. Conrad Murray. He is accused of giving the King of Pop a lethal dose of what is a surgical anesthetic. Now, tonight, Murray`s attorneys have asked the court for his sequestered jury, filing a petition that says, quote, "There`s a reasonable expectation" -- and I think they`re right -- "that Dr. Murray`s trial will be the most publicized trial in history," unquote.

              Now, over the coming weeks and months, HLN will be covering this trial like no other network, and I personally will give you insight that I bet you just can`t get anywhere else. I`ll be bringing you exclusive interviews from Jackson insiders that you can only see right here on this set.

              And tonight, I talk one-on-one with the man who is part of the entertainer`s most inner circle. Watch this.

              (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

              PINSKY (voice-over): Michael Jackson`s chief of security was responsible for keeping him and his children out of harm`s way, but Michael La Perruque also built a strong bond with the King of Pop. He became one of Jackson`s closest confidants. Perruque`s knowledge of Jackson`s private life was so intimate that he was subpoenaed at the infamous 2005 molestation trial. Now, his name is surfaced as a possible witness in the upcoming murder trial surrounding Jackson`s untimely death.

              (END VIDEO CLIP)

              PINSKY (on-camera): And Michael La Perruque is with me now. Michael, you saw Michael Jackson just before he died. I guess, a few weeks before. Tell us about that and that conversation you had with him.

              MIKE LA PERRUQUE, MICHAEL JACKSON`S HEAD OF SECURITY: Well, Michael was attending a party that was put on by Janet. It was a surprise party at a restaurant in Beverly Hills. And, I was in charge of running the security for that particular party. Shutting it down, make sure all the video cameras were off, and everything. So, we knew that Michael was going to show up to the restaurant, so I had done my job as far as getting a private room. Michael showed up with the three children and was standing off at another room.

              He sees me, and we hadn`t seen each other in a couple years, I guess. So, he saw me standing in the room. He yells out Mike, and he comes running over to me and gives me a big hug, asks me to come over and sit down with him because I had a private room for him. There was great -- you know, we talked about how good it was to see each other. And, then, I had asked him about him going off to Europe.

              He says, yes, I`m going to go to London for the shows. And I said Michael, you`re skinnier than I`ve ever seen you. What`s going on? Put some meat on your bones. And he said that he lost a lot of weight because he was going through -- he was doing all the rehearsals for the "This Is It."

              PINSKY: The stress and the preparation.

              LA PERRUQUE: Right. Well, he was always a thin guy, anyway.

              PINSKY: Yes.

              LA PERRUQUE: But I think -- like I said, this was the skinniest I`ve seen him or thinner side I`ve ever seen him. So --

              PINSKY: Did you feel concern for him at that point? Did you think, oh my gosh, how`s he going to do this?

              LA PERRUQUE: No, not at that time, because I knew he was strong.

              (CROSSTALK)

              LA PERRUQUE: No, I don`t think so. And we talked about a little bit later about the children and how they were doing. And then, I actually used a term that you coined. And I told him that, Michael, I have great affection for you, and I want you to know that no matter where you are in this world, no matter what time it is, whatever you`re doing if you need me, I will always be there for you. I don`t care what it is.

              I`ll drop whatever I`m doing, and I will come see him -- or, I`ll come see you. And after that, he -- his head of security or his assistant came walking in, and he told the assistant, hey, get Mike`s number. Always keep Mike`s number with you no matter where we are. We may need him later. Always keep it with you. With that, I said, go on back to your party, and I`ll see you later. That was the last time I saw him.

              PINSKY: I`m actually moved that you used that word affection, because that`s a very special kind of relationship with somebody like this when you feel that deep affection and you appreciate them as a person.

              LA PERRUQUE: Exactly.

              PINSKY: You`ve known him for a lot of years.

              LA PERRUQUE: Yes, I started with him at the end of 2000, and I worked for him through 2004. And then, he asked me to come back to work for him in 2007 through 2008.

              PINSKY: It`s kind of a special thing, because he`s not a cartoon character to you or the King of Pop. He`s a human being that you have real affection for you. Appreciate him as a person. And I want to get into that as we talk today. Let me ask you this. Where were you on June 25th, 2009, when you found out that Michael was dead?

              LA PERRUQUE: I was at San Jose Airport. I was just finishing up a business meeting. And, I was at the airport, and then, all of a sudden, I heard -- you know, I saw a lot of people were starting to talk with each other and cell phones going off, and you know, you could definitely tell that there was some kind of a --

              PINSKY: Something happened.

              LA PERRUQUE: Some event that was happening that was catching everybody`s attention. And, then, I got a phone call from a person that I worked with on Michael`s detail, and she was very close with Michael. And she says well, Michael just had a heart attack. And I need you to meet me over at the hospital. And I, of course, said, well, of course, but I`m up here in San Jose. I`m about ready to jump on a flight.

              As soon as I get down to Burbank Airport, I`ll, you know, get in my car and I`ll meet you over there. And, it was a few minutes after that that I guess another network had broke the news that he had died. And then, of course, there is quite a bit of hubbub in the airport.

              PINSKY: Did you get to the emergency room?

              LA PERRUQUE: I finally did towards the end of the day. Yes, I did. And, anyway, she had told me that, you know, Michael passed away on the phone. And, then, she says, you know, I can`t believe it. I refuse to believe it.

              PINSKY: Did it surprise you? Did it really surprise you?

              LA PERRUQUE: You know, yes. It surprised me.

              PINSKY: You had just seen him. He looked ill. He didn`t look well. He had a lot of stress coming. We`re going to talk in a minute about the drug use that you did or didn`t see. So, but first, what I want to do is go to a recording. On the day Michael Jackson died, a security guard who, I guess, still works for you now, a guy named Alberto Alvarez?

              LA PERRUQUE: Yes.

              PINSKY: He made this 911 call from Jackson`s bedroom. Let`s listen.

              (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

              UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He`s unconscious? He`s not breathing?

              VOICE OF ALBERTO ALVAREZ, JACKSON`S FORMER BODYGUARD: Yes, he`s not breathing, sir.

              UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK. And he`s not conscious either.

              ALVAREZ: No. He`s not conscious, sir.

              UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK. All right. Is he on the floor? Where is he at right now?

              ALVAREZ: He`s on the bed, sir. He`s on the bed.

              UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK. Let`s get him on the floor.

              ALVAREZ: OK.

              UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK. Let`s get him down to the floor. I`m going to help you with CPR right now, OK?

              (END VIDEO CLIP)

              PINSKY: And Mr. Alvarez still works for you to this day?

              LA PERRUQUE: Yes.

              PINSKY: How do you feel when you hear that phone call?

              LA PERRUQUE: You know, it`s sort of chilling at the same time. I feel for Alberto, because I know him. And, he`s a really good guy.

              PINSKY: Funny, you can kind of tell that. You can tell his real genuine concern, and he was doing his job.

              LA PERRUQUE: He was doing his job, but if you can imagine, you know, the situation happening and how surreal it must be. And you have to -- as a protection agent, someone as protecting someone, you have a certain amount of duty and responsibility towards that person. And to realize that this person that you`re in charge of his care has, you know, passed away or something like that, especially at the magnitude of the popularity of Michael.

              PINSKY: Does Alberto to this day feel guilt? Does he lay blame with Dr. Murray? I don`t want you to speak on his behalf, you can`t, but people in the room, how did they feel about what went down, I wonder.

              LA PERRUQUE: I can`t answer that. And, I`ve had conversations with Alberto. And, not only does he work for me, but he is a personal friend of mine.

              PINSKY: Maybe I`ll ask him to come and talk to us himself. Let me ask you this. Did you ever imagine that drugs would kill Michael Jackson?

              LA PERRUQUE: No. You know, you want to hope for the best.

              PINSKY: Impacting to that response, though, I suspect, is you did see him doing drugs or you were aware he was doing drugs.

              LA PERRUQUE: I was aware that he was doing drugs.

              PINSKY: Were you aware of the magnitude of the problem?

              LA PERRUQUE: Yes.

              PINSKY: And so, when you say you hope for the best, you hoped he didn`t die of it?

              LA PERRUQUE: Of course.

              PINSKY: Were you aware of his use of propofol?

              LA PERRUQUE: No. I had never -- I never heard of the word propofol before. It came out after his passing.

              PINSKY: And given -- I mean, for me -- I will just tell you, propofol used outside of a hospital was a bizarre. I mean, when I heard about that, it`s like really, like an asteroid hit outside my house or something. It`s like, what world does that happen? But OK. So, that was happening, and apparently, been happening for awhile, I guess. What are your thoughts in the charges against Conrad Murray? Do you have any?

              LA PERRUQUE: Well, my personal thoughts would be that the charges are very -- they are the correct charges against (ph) regarding manslaughter charges. I don`t think that Conrad Murray would have any kind of predetermined thoughts to, you know, wanting to kill the King of Pop.

              PINSKY: Premeditation.

              LA PERRUQUE: Premeditation.

              PINSKY: How do you respond to some of the Jackson family like La Toya who say that Murray was just sort of the fall guy for a bigger guilty party? It`s sort of, you know, inadvertent murder like they were worked into doubt (ph) or something. It seems to be the implication.

              LA PERRUQUE: Well, it would almost sound like it`s some kind of conspiracy.

              PINSKY: Yes.

              LA PERRUQUE: And I don`t think that conspiracy was in there. I think that everybody deals with their own grieving process in a certain way. And, that you just don`t want to believe that, you know, for his family members that someone would do that or would need to take some kind of medication that would ultimately kill them.

              PINSKY: In terms -- again, in speaking about his use of medication, the producers told me that you actually -- he would be so, I guess, intoxicated or affected by medication that, sometimes, you`d actually have to carry him out of meetings?

              LA PERRUQUE: Yes. There were a few meeting a few times where he seemed to be under the influence of some kind of stimulant, and he would basically sit there and just pass out. So, I would have to walk in and stop the meeting. And then, basically, try to wake him up and then carry him into his room. And, I would unzip his boots, put him in bed, and then, for the next couple hours, I would just sit there and watch him just to make sure he was breathing.

              PINSKY: Was there a doctor that you would call to come and to attend at that point?

              LA PERRUQUE: No.

              PINSKY: That seems strange to me.

              LA PERRUQUE: He was being seen by physicians. And, I guess, because I had seen it so many times that I felt comfortable in just being able to watch him. And then, of course, if he has stopped breathing or if it did take a turn for the worse, then, of course, I would have called the 911.

              PINSKY: Of course.

              LA PERRUQUE: Not even (ph) waited for a doctor.

              PINSKY: OK. Up next, as a part of Michael`s inner circle, Michael La Perruque also spent countless hours with Jackson`s children. So, we`re going to find out what Prince, Paris, and Blanket are really like and what kind of dad was the King of Pop. We`ll find that out next. Stay with us.

              (COMMERCIAL BREAK)

              (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

              PARIS HILTON, MICHAEL JACKSON`S DAUGHTER: I just wanted to say ever since I was born, daddy has been the best father you could ever imagine.

              (END VIDEO CLIP)

              PINSKY: That really was just one of the saddest moments. That was Paris Jackson speaking at her father`s memorial service in July 2009. Michael La Perruque, he`s Jackson`s chief of security speaking (ph) over to me and said, you know, during that, none of us -- no one had a dry eye during that service. He, of course, was there. You spent a lot of time with Michael. What was he like as a dad?

              LA PERRUQUE: He was an excellent father. You would not believe the extent that he would go to just to make sure that he provided a very normal life for his children.

              PINSKY: So, they weren`t spoiled that they weren`t sent away to nannies? I understand each one had their own little team, isn`t that right?

              LA PERRUQUE: No.

              PINSKY: That`s what the rumor. Well, this is the part, you know, I`m trying to imagine what it`d be like to be a child and have Michael Jackson as your father. It`d be kind of peculiar.

              LA PERRUQUE: I don`t think that there was that much of a -- the children never expressed like my daddy is Michael Jackson. It was just my daddy is daddy.

              PINSKY: Now, again, I get that. That`s what I keep hearing is that they loved him as dad, and he was dad like anyone is just dad, but he was an unusual person. He didn`t seem like the kind of person to easily get close to. That that ever affect or was that a more natural role for him?

              LA PERRUQUE: I think that was the role for him. I mean, his role as a father was probably more natural than his dancing and that was a God- given talent. So, I think that, you know, his raising the children and trying to just give them that unconditional love and gave that unconditional love back.

              PINSKY: I actually did a fundraiser with him at Carnegie Hall for -- it was a children`s fundraiser. And he seemed to always be involved in children`s fundraising activities. And did any of that sort of -- and then the Peter Pan stuff and all -- did any of his sort of almost excessive preoccupation with children interfere with his parenting?

              LA PERRUQUE: I don`t think so.

              PINSKY: Didn`t get anything --

              LA PERRUQUE: I never got that impression at all.

              PINSKY: And tell us about Paris and Prince and Blanket. What are they like as kids?

              LA PERRUQUE: Great kids. I mean, they just, you know, -- they love their father.

              PINSKY: That is clear. I mean, that was so genuine. It`s so heartfelt.

              LA PERRUQUE: Yes.

              PINSKY: It`s like I can`t even think about it.

              LA PERRUQUE: Yes. And, you know, Prince was always sort of the adult around with the other two children looking out after his sister and his younger brother. Blanket, we affectionately called him was always very quiet. And Paris, you can probably tell she`s going to be the stronger of all three of them.

              PINSKY: Did they have normal peer relationships with other kids?

              LA PERRUQUE: Oh, yes. There were always other kids around.

              PINSKY: OK. And yet, their confidentiality was carefully maintained.

              LA PERRUQUE: Of course.

              PINSKY: Their identity was carefully protected. Was that him being paranoid or was that appropriate? I mean, you were the head of security. So, did you advise that kind of thing?

              LA PERRUQUE: As a protection agent, you always want to take care of your principals, but then his children as well. And, you want to protect the children and protect the man himself. So, as part of that is that you`re always aware of the potential possible kidnapping. Michael wanted the children to be raised at that tender -- during those tender ages without the cameras in front of them, without any kind of publicity.

              So, we want to make sure that if, like, sometimes I would take Paris out to the local park just so that she could, you know, play on the swings and go down the slides and I would stand there and watch her or push her on the swings so that they would maintain some sort of sense of normalcy.

              PINSKY: Were you, guys, part of the decision to put stuff over their face, the masks and things?

              LA PERRUQUE: It was instructed to us to make sure that whenever they went out publicly with Michael around, that they would have some kind of a mask which wrapped (ph) over their face.

              PINSKY: I see. So, when they`re with him, they didn`t --

              LA PERRUQUE: Yes.

              PINSKY: I Oh, that`s very interesting. There was that one episode where he held the child over the balcony. Was that just a misadventure?

              LA PERRUQUE: I think it was a misadventure. You have to -- you know, again, everybody was saw it from the camera view. And, I didn`t realize what happened until later on that day when I start hearing about everything, but, you know, it was like Michael was just -- he was caught up in the moment, and sometimes, you see fathers take their kids and throw them up in the air and try to catch him or catch them.

              And he was just kind of like, he was in the moment and he was presenting his children because the crowds down below -- we had been at that hotel for numerous days. And there was -- they held it -- the fans held a 24-hour vigil. So, sometimes, you know, he would wave and the crowd would get --

              PINSKY: I`ve seen what the fans do. They, like, throw themselves at it. It`s kind of wild.

              LA PERRUQUE: It is.

              PINSKY: But Mike, I`m going to ask you a tougher question. I know you have affection for him. You sure you didn`t drink the Kool-Aid?

              LA PERRUQUE: No.

              PINSKY: You know what I mean? Because we looked at that --

              (CROSSTALK)

              PINSKY: No. Not the (INAUDIBLE) juice, but the Kool-Aid. I saw that picture of him in the balcony, I though, that did not look good to me.

              LA PERRUQUE: It didn`t look good to me either.

              PINSKY: OK. All right. I just want to make sure we`re looking at the same footage.

              LA PERRUQUE: We`re looking at the same footage, and yes, there was a definite concern. In fact, later on, I had to make sure that he didn`t do something additionally silly.

              PINSKY: Did he do silly stuff like that?

              LA PERRUQUE: Yes, he did. I mean, and that was sometimes his -- he was his own worst enemy that he would do things like irresponsibly not think about the consequences later on down the line.

              PINSKY: So, himself being a little childlike.

              LA PERRUQUE: Sometimes.

              PINSKY: OK. Now, in 2005, jury selection began for the infamous Michael Jackson molestation trial. The entertainer was indicted on 14 counts including four counts of molesting a minor. Jackson maintained his innocence throughout and released this videotape statement to the media. Watch.

              (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

              MICHAEL JACKSON, ENTERTAINER: Years ago, I allowed a family to visit and spend time in Neverland. Neverland is my home. I allowed this family into my home because they told me their son was ill with cancer and needed my help. Through the years, I have helped thousands of children who were ill or in distress. These vents have caused a nightmare for my family, my children, and me.

              (END VIDEO CLIP)

              PINSKY: In June 2005, the jury found Jackson not guilty on all 14 charges. Mike, you have maintained throughout that he was innocent. You, guys, have chance to observe him with other children and other families. In fact, my understanding is you were almost always there.

              LA PERRUQUE: Yes. I had total access. I was -- whenever he was leaving Neverland Ranch, that`s basically when I went into action. I was in charge of his travel team and then provided the protection dealing with whatever the event was, whether it was a public event or something along those lines. So, there was a lot of interaction with, you know --

              PINSKY: Did you see him with this family that had --

              (CROSSTALK)

              PINSKY: The ones that had these allegations against him?

              LA PERRUQUE: Yes. In fact, they came down to Florida, Miami, Florida, and spent two weeks with Michael just prior to him going back to Neverland Ranch.

              PINSKY: All right. We have to wrap this up. Sorry to interrupt you, but you didn`t see any inappropriate?

              LA PERRUQUE: No.

              PINSKY: No, nothing even a hint of that trouble?

              LA PERRUQUE: Not even a hit.

              PINSKY: That`s what I understood you to say.

              OK. Up next, did Michael Jackson really suffer from a skin condition called Vitiligo. And, did his nose fall? We`re going to talk to Mike La Perruque about the facts versus the fictions when we come back.

              (COMMERCIAL BREAK)

              (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

              (APPLAUSE)

              (END VIDEO CLIP)

              PINSKY: My special guest tonight served as Michael Jackson`s head of security. His name is Mike La Perruque. He was also Michael`s confidant. He knows about the truth versus the fiction. He knows about his skin condition, but before we start about his Vitiligo, you just link (ph) over to me again. I want to bring you back here. I`ve got a million more questions for you, but you said something about him trying to get away from the drugs. Tell me that again.

              LA PERRUQUE: Yes. Michael worked very hard to try to get away from the drugs. I knew about him using certain prescription drugs, but he wanted to be clean. He did not like taking the medications. And, he was strongly against any kind of illegal narcotics. So, I know of two times that he worked hard working with doctors to try to get himself clean, sober, and away from the hard narcotics.

              PINSKY: I tell you one of the most heartbreaking things I hear my peers tell patients sometimes is I know what`s good for you. I`m your doctor. Listen to me. You need these medicines. Did he ever hear that kind of stuff?

              LA PERRUQUE: Yes. Unfortunately, yes.

              PINSKY: OK. Look, Mike, I`ve got many more questions about how the doctors related to him and whether they would give you instructions or him instructions, but we`re running out of time here. Let`s get to the fact versus the fiction here. Vitiligo. Did he have Vitiligo and is that why he lightened his skin?

              LA PERRUQUE: Yes. And here`s --

              PINSKY: Vitiligo, by the way, is white patches. It is very pronounced on dark skinned people.

              LA PERRUQUE: Yes. And you wouldn`t probably see him -- you probably wouldn`t know it, but if I got relate a story. I got called into his hotel room one day, and we were in his bedroom and he was talking about having rash on the back of his legs. So, he says it`s itchy, da-da-da-da, and while he was talking to me, all of a sudden, he just dropped his pajama bottoms.

              And I started standing there just looking at him. And he`s talking about, you know, the rash on the back of his legs, and I started laughing. And he looked at me like, why are you laughing at me? You know, when I`m trying to tell you about my rash. And I said Michael, you just dropped your pants in front of me, you know --

              PINSKY: And what`s he looked at?

              LA PERRUQUE: And he`s standing in there with his tiny whitings (ph) on, but yes, on his leg, he had dark patches of skin.

              PINSKY: Dark patches.

              LA PERRUQUE: Yes.

              PINSKY: Well, what`s interesting about that, that`s not Vitiligo. Dark patches what happen to dark skin`s people when they scratch, they hyperpigment. So, that goes against the Vitiligo theory. Interestingly, he did have some kind of skin problem, but all that scratching makes it get darker. It can also make it depigment, but darker, that`s opposite of Vitiligo.

              Vitiligo is an autoimmune attack on the skin. So, we have to look into that a little more. How about this business about him having like major complications with plastic surgery like his nose fell off, which is, by the way, no such thing as that. Anything like that ever --

              (CROSSTALK)

              PINSKY: Any weird, major complications or anything that people we could set the record straight for?

              LA PERRUQUE: Not that I saw.

              PINSKY: I`ve got only 20 seconds. Why did he keep refusing to acknowledge he was having plastic surgery?

              LA PERRUQUE: I don`t know.

              (CROSSTALK)

              PINSKY: That`s always seemed sad to me like he was hiding and ashamed -- I mean, he had a major, you know, burn. Were you with him during all the burn?

              LA PERRUQUE: No. Not at all.

              PINSKY: I have a whole bunch of more questions for you. Thank you, Michael. I do appreciate being with us. I hope you come back.

              LA PERRUQUE: Thanks for having me.

              PINSKY: All right. Now, guys, we`ve got another high-profile trial in about a month. I`m guessing many of you already made up your minds about Dr. Murray, about whether he`s guilty or not in the death of Michael Jackson, but take a beat (ph) here for a second, admit that after hearing what Michael`s long-time bodyguard told us tonight, you might be thinking twice about some those opinions you formed about Michael, about Michael as a father, about past allegations.

              Now, it`s a matter of whom you`re going to believe, of course. Maybe, we should all stop and reserve judgment about dr. Murray until we hear what`s presented in court. And even then, a jury is going to decide, not us. We`ll be discussing it all right here, though, the evidences, the witnesses, the facts. HLN had got it all covered. Thank you all for watching tonight. See you next time.

              END
              Zuletzt geändert von Lena; 24.08.2011, 14:25.

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              • Conrad Murray's attorneys seek sequestered jury in Jackson trial

                Man hört sich Heute die Argumente an, Absonderung der Jury oder doch nicht??
                Der Medienrummel um Murray könnte größer werden, als der Fall von Casey Anthony hervorbrachte und diese Familie stand nicht in der Öffentlichkeit.
                Das sieht bei der Familie Jackson schon anders aus, es wurde bis dato ja ALLES in den Medien gesetzt von Belang oder nicht.
                Der Medienrummel während des Murray Prozess könnte enorm werden........Beeinflussung der Jury dadurch wäre daher nicht ausgeschlossen.....

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                • ... ich befürchte weniger eine persönliche belastung der geschworenen durch die medien, sondern die käuflichkeit.
                  und zwar auf ganz menschlicher ebene - niemand weiß, was einzelne vertreter der medien zu bieten bereit sind und
                  am ende der schlacht ist jeder mensch käuflich. das meine ich nicht mal böse - im ernst: wenn es um das eigene wohl
                  und wehe und das der familie geht, kann der stärkste mann umfallen. insofern hoffe ich auf die gerichtliche entscheidung
                  auf abschottung der geschworenen. so wird niemand in versuchung geführt, niemand wird eventuell ziel von angriffen ( man stelle sich
                  vor, da geraten interna über die entscheidungsfindung nach außen) der öffentlichkeit und niemand gerät in die lage,
                  gezielt beeinflusst zu werden. wenn z.b. fans an das wissen gelangten, dass geschworener x eine für sie unpopuläre meinung vertritt,
                  können wir uns alle vorstellen, was passiert... auch das ist dann nicht mal zwingend böse gemeint, ich rede nicht einmal von
                  drohungen, aber dass aus emotionalen gründen dann druck aufgebaut würde, der einfach nicht in die verhandlung gehört, sollte auch
                  klar sein.

                  was die restliche schaumschlägerei betrifft: klappern gehört bei denen zum handwerk, insofern würde ich nicht alles, was hinz und kunz
                  dazu noch zu sagen hat, überbewerten.
                  interessant wird, was beim prozess passiert. was vorher -gezielt- öffentlich breitgetreten wird, kann man - meine sicht der dinge - am
                  rande wahrnehmen, aber allzuviel bedeutung sollte man dem nicht beimessen.
                  wir leben nun mal im 21. jahrhundert und da gibt es soziale netzwerke und twitter und tmz - damit leben wir und gut isses.
                  man kann das ganze im vorfeld auch tot ananlysieren, um schon mal für alle möglichen endergebnisse vorzubauen. ob mich das jetzt
                  beeindrucken muss? .... ich hab im moment eher das gefühl: nein.
                  der prozess findet vor einem gericht statt. und am ende passiert da nix anderes, als vor 20 jahren - da sitzt ein angeklagter, ein richter,
                  ein paar anwälte, die geschworenen, zeugen und gutachter - und genau zwischen diesen menschen findet das ganze statt. ganz real und
                  wenig virtuell.
                  Zuletzt geändert von Briánna; 25.08.2011, 12:47.

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                  • 24.08.2011: Interview mit ehemaligem Security Chef von MJ

                    Dr. Drew von CNN hat mit Michael Jacksons ehemaligem Sicherheitschef und Bodyguard, Mike La Perruque, über den angeblichen Medikamentenmissbrauch, Vitiligo und plastische Chirurgie gesprochen. Hier zwei kurze Aussschnitte aus dem Interview:

                    Clip 1 http://edition.cnn.com/video/#/video...iref=allsearch
                    Clip 2 http://edition.cnn.com/video/#/video...iref=allsearch


                    Quellen: jackson.ch, cnn.com



                    Transkript des Interviews im Post #1028 von @ Lena !
                    Zuletzt geändert von geli2709; 25.08.2011, 15:42.

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                    • Der Antrag auf Abschottung der Jury wurde von Richter Michael Pastor abgewiesen.
                      Die Juroren sollen sich nicht wie Gefangene fühlen.
                      Richter Michael Pastor entschied ... auch wenn Michael Jackson's Tod eine unglaublich hohe Bekanntheit hat (? und der Prozess dazu auf ein großes Interesse stoßen wird) , fühlt er sich zuversichtlich, dass ausreichende Massnahmen getroffen werden, um zu gewährleisten, dass die Jury nicht belästigt und gestört wird.

                      Um den Schutz sicherzustellen, erhalten die Juroren jeweils Mahlzeiten und Snacks im Jury Zimmer - nicht in den umliegenden Orten für Mittagessen, die für die Medien und die Öffentlichkeit offen sind.

                      Richter Pastor sagte, dass Geld nicht der Grund für diese Entscheidung ist, obwohl Abschottung teuer ist.

                      Dr. Conrad Murray -Michael Jackson Jury Will NOT Be Sequestered
                      The Dr. Conrad Murray jury will NOT be sequestered, because the judge does not want jurors to feel like inmates.

                      Judge Michael Pastor just ruled ... even though Michael Jackson's death was incredibly high profile, he feels confident sufficient measures will be in place to make sure the jury is not contaminated or harassed.

                      To ensure protection, jurors will each get meals and snacks in the jury room -- not in surrounding lunch areas open to the media and public.

                      Judge Pastor said money is not the issue, even though sequestration is expensive.
                      Quelle: TMZ


                      Nachtrag
                      Hier ist eine ausführlichere Meldung dazu von CNN : http://edition.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/08...a.murray.case/
                      Zuletzt geändert von Annika; 25.08.2011, 20:45.

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                      • haha...die Verteidung möchte, dass der Fokus ausschl. auf den 25.6.09 gelegt wird. Also...dann aber gleiches Recht für Michael. Warum wühlen sie dann ständig in Mikes Vergangenheit rum?

                        Die Verteidung wollte auch, dass die Kameras aus dem Gerichtssaal verbannt werden, was vom Richter abgelehnt wurde.
                        Sie müssen ganz schön Schiß vor der öffentlichen Meinung haben, wenn rauskommt was der gute Murray alles verbockt hat...ganz abgesehen von seinem sonstigen Leben.

                        Richter Pastor: "Frequently talking heads are talking through other body parts than their heads."

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                        • Hier mal was zum Bodyguard, wen es interessiert.

                          Regarding Mike La Perruque's recent claims (Ex bodyguard)
                          von Samantha De Gosson, Mittwoch, 24. August 2011 um 04:41

                          Regarding Mike la Perruque's recent and sudden claims: This jerk showed up at Carolwood a few weeks before Michael died! I was there and he told us why he was there. He tried to get into Carolwood but failed, like many others! He was Michael's bodyguard a few years ago for a short period of time and slept with quite a few fans, promising them meetings etc. After an incident at Christian Audigier's birthday party in Beverly Hills (Michael got paid to attend) he decided to take it upon himself to represent the "victim" in this incident. Of course by then he was no longer employed by Michael. Bodyguard suddenly turned attorney! LOL. Yes, you got it, just another clown making money off of Michael, like everyone else. He showed us pictures and asked us if we recognised certain people (other bodyguards) in the pictures. We didn't. The claim was that some of Michael's bodyguards attacked an innocent by-stander taking pictures of Michael and bruised this poor guy up. I guess Mike La Perruque can finally make some money off of his ex-employer now, and God knows what happened to the "victim" in the incident he spoke of. I guess he sucked at being an attorney too.Btw, Michael got angry at him a few years back in Las Vegas when Michael wanted to talk to fans and this jerk got agressive. Michael shouted back at him. Just another pirhana in the pool...

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                          • In another development, prosecutors filed a motion seeking to exclude or limit the testimony of 26 witnesses including Jackson’s many health care providers and a police detective who participated in Jackson’s 2003 child molestation investigation in Santa Maria. Jackson was acquitted in a high profile 2005 trial and prosecutors said in their motion that such testimony “is irrelevant and highly inflammatory.”
                            “The current case should focus on the events surrounding the medical care provided to Michael Jackson by Conrad Murray,” said the motion. “The case should not be allowed to deteriorate into an unfair, unwarranted and irrelevant attack on the deceased victim.”
                            They asked the court to bar any reference to the molestation case.

                            Die Staatsanwaltschaft hat einen Antrag gestellt, dass 26 Zeugen ausgeschlossen werden, darunter Gesundheitsberater und ein Polzeidedetiv der in Jackson`s 2003-Anklage wegen Kindesbelästigung beteiligt war. Jackson wurde freigesprochen und die Staatsanwaltschhaft sagt das die Zeugenausagen "irrelevant und hoch entzündlich sind. Der derzeitige Fall solle sich auf die medizin. Behandlung von Murray an MJ beschränken. Der Fall soll nicht in unfaire Attakcken gegen das verstorbene Opfer gewandelt werden." Sie beantragen beim Gericht jeglichen Bezug zum Kindesbelästigungfall auszuschließen.
                            Zuletzt geändert von Lena; 25.08.2011, 23:52.

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                            • Prosecutors in the Dr. Conrad Murray manslaughter case want to block all testimony related to allegations that*Michael Jackson molested children.

                              According to court docs obtained by TMZ ... prosecutors want Judge Michael Pastor to bar Steve Robel -- a key Santa Barbara County Sheriff's investigator in the 2005 MJ molestation trial -- from testifying* in Murray's defense.* Robel is on the defense witness list.

                              In fact, prosecutors want all references to alleged molestation barred from Murray's trial, on grounds it has nothing to do with MJ's death and would merely inflame the jury.

                              And, prosecutors have also asked the judge to block the testimony of a number of doctors who treated Michael Jackson but were not involved in caring for MJ on the day of his death.

                              This is a huge motion that could have a profound impact on the case.* As TMZ first reported, the defense will argue that dozens of doctors had addicted MJ to prescription meds -- including Propofol -- and they are largely responsible for the condition Michael was in the day he died.

                              Judge Pastor has not ruled on the motions.

                              Fällt mir NIX mehr dazu ein......

                              Hier noch etwas
                              Dr. Conrad Murray Case: Prosecutors Seek Ban on Michael Jackson Molestation References



                              Es wird langsam anstrengend ALLE Infos in dem richtigen Licht zustellen/werten....
                              Warten Wir es ab....
                              Sollte Frank Dileo, Gott hab Ihn selig, nicht auch als Zeuge fungieren??
                              Was nun?? Fehlt dort dann nicht etwas entscheidenes??

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                              • Bin ich mal gespannt, wenn dem aktuellen Antrag der Staatsanwaltschaft stattgegeben würde, blieben schätzungsweise nicht mehr viele Zeugen der Verteidigung übrig. Denn diese Liste der 103 ist ja eh sehr "löcherig". Entweder wurden von der Verteidigung (noch) keine Aussagen vorgelegt, oder sie wurden (noch) gar nicht befragt, oder die Aussagen sind durch die Ermittlungen der Staatsanwaltschaft entstanden, oder aber sie haben eigentlich so gar keinen Bezug zu dem was im Juni 2009 geschehen ist.

                                Und auch die Patienten von Dr. C. Murray, von denen die Verteidigung Statements vorgelegt hat, waren doch weder am 25.06.2009 dabei, noch haben sie MJ selbst behandelt. Diese Zeugen sind dann wohl die "Politur" der beruflichen Reputation des Angeklagten.

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