Menschen die sich an eine Begegnung mit Michael Jackson erinnern

[Maja5809]

Video in POST 633 von geli..

Marvin Butts über Michael.. (ein ehemaliger Bodygard von Michael..)
(ich habe übersetzt, was ich verstanden habe...Ton ist nicht der beste..)


MB:..es war schön, für ihn zu arbeiten, und es hart zu verstehen, dass er nicht mehr da ist..

Frage: Was unterschied ihn vom Rest deiner Kunden?

MB: Michael hatte eine bestimmte Magie.. Leute hören seine Songs, und sie sagen "er ist magisch" ...wenn du längere Zeit mit ihm zusammen warst, hast du dich verändert.. zum besseren...er gab dir einen Auftrieb... (er hat) deine Augen geöffnet.. dein Spirit hat sich verändert...du wurdest wie er...du wolltest helfen, die Welt zu verändern. Oder Menschen zu verändern..
Es war da so viel Spirit, Auftrieb, Spass.. und....es wir nie einen anderen Michael geben. Es gibt nichts, was ihn ersetzen könnte. Ich weiss, es gibt viele Menschen, die sich mit ihm verbunden fühlen, jetzt, und ich denke darüber nach, was sie durchmachen...wie sie sich fühlen...aber das gute ist das, was er zurücklässt...seine Legacy...die Liebe..Frieden...einen unvollendeten Job...ich hoffe man kommt zusammen und vollendet, was er wollte., und das war der Weltfrieden und das Hunger-Problem zu lösen.

Frage: ..denkst du dass der Weltfriede und seine Kinder ihm mehr bedeuteten als die Musik?

MB: Nein...das ging Schulter an Schulter.. seine Musik und seine Kinder.. nicht nur seine eigenen Kinder.. die Kinder der ganzen Welt.. dafür lebte er, das war sein Image, seine Motivation.. hör den Liedern zu, von da, wo Billie Jean erschien, das ist der Punkt, wo die ganze Musik sich änderte.

Mike war ganz besonders.. er war der Auserwählte, er war derjenige, auf den Gott seinen Finger gelegt hatte.. das ist es, wie Mike alles was er tat überlebte.. er war spirituell gesegnet.

Ein Teil von mit ist gestorben, ich denke jeder spürt, dass ein Teil von ihm gestorben ist.. man hat einen Teil von sich verloren, denn Mike hat jeden berührt.
Michael ist 50, ich bin 2 Jahre älter..er berührte die Menschen im ganzen Universum, ich glaube nicht, dass es eine andere Person gibt, über die du das sagen kannst.

...wenn du jemanden kennenlernst, wie Mike, und da gibt es eine Verbindung.. das ist magisch...es ist magisch..

Michael hatte noch viel mehr zu bieten.. aber er bekam nicht mehr die Chance dazu..
die zweite Hälfte seines Lebens hatte erst begonnen.. er ist einfach zu früh gegangen..

Frage: Hatte er sein Leben im Griff.. zu der Zeit?

MB: Ja. Ohne Zweifel..

...zuviele Menschen sind schon gegangen.. das war auch ein Grund für den Song "Gone Too Soon".. und er ist definitiv "Gone Too Soon"..

Frage: Was sollten die Menschen über Michael Jackson wissen? ...sie kennen die Musik, ..was denkst du, dass sie wissen sollten?

MB: Michael war ein Engel.. ein menschlicher Engel...vergesst, was ihr über ihn gehört habt... Michael schrieb in einem Song.." how can you judge me if you don't even know me" hört den Text von diesem Song an.. er war ein Engel..

[geli2709]

"Wir müssen Magie in das Video bringen !"
Ich werde mich immer daran erinnern.


John Singleton, der Produzent des Videos "Remember The Time" erinnert sich an Michael


Michael Jackson Remembered: John Singleton on Challenging His Hero


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July 9, 2009 1:12 PM ET

John Singleton

When I first met him I didn't feel nervous because I kind of felt all my life was leading up to that moment. As a fan, he was always in my life. I was 15 years when I went to the Grammy Awards and saw him win all his Grammys at the Shrine. He asked me, "What songs do you like?" and if I wanted to do a video. And I said, "OK, well, can we put black people in the video?" [Laughs] I was challenging him. And he said, "Whatever you want." He was cool with me because I was straightforward with him, and I felt that everybody was always goose-stepping around him and never telling him the real deal. And this was from the perspective of a young black kid growing up admiring Michael Jackson, being inspired by the vision that he had not only in music but in his life. To be able to hang out with him and call him a friend was an honor for me.

On the set [of the "Remember the Time" video] he was mischievous. My choreographer in that video was Fatima Robinson, and the three of us got together and she did the routine with him. It was really a great vibe. Just seeing how he would get every little move, bit by bit by bit, the whole routine, like we were putting on a Broadway show. He said, "Whatever you want to make this as cool as possible, let's do it. Let's get Eddie Murphy. Let's get Magic Johnson." Magic Johnson was going through his thing where he'd just revealed he had HIV. Michael said, "We have to put Magic in this video." I'll always remember that.

He was a very visual guy. They weren't videos to him. They were short films — visualizing the funkiness of what he was trying to accomplish in the music. He was always trying to set the bar higher.

I was hoping he was going to finish his album. He's got umpteen tracks that he's done over the six or seven years. He was so meticulous about what he did. He had hit songs on reserve that he would never even let out, and he'd work with all these different producers. If you were somebody of any repute in the music business, Michael Jackson would call and ask to work with you. People would come. But he would never release any of the stuff.

I've eaten the Jackson 5 cereal, I've played the 45 records, I watched the cartoon when I was a little kid, I went to the concerts, I was at the Victory concert. I had a glitter tie, which I hate to admit. [Laughs] I will love him forever.


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Quelle:http://www.rollingstone.com/music/ne...-hero-20090709

[magictree]

Hallo Maja.......

OMG....dieser Text ist so schön........

er war der Auserwählte, er war derjenige, auf den Gott seinen Finger gelegt hatte.

Danke dafür.........

[Ines J]

Danke Maja, Geli und Blaue Blume - es tut so gut, das alles zu lesen !
Wird die Menschheit begreifen ?

[geli2709]

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~He’s so tender. He is so compassionate. He hurts, literally pains for other people’s suffering. If there is — like — the starvation of children in this country, in India, in Africa…He reaches out. I’ve been to the Orient with him. And he says: “Roll down the window! Roll down the window!” He reaches his hands out and just touches a baby’s face. Oh, you beautiful thing, and he just wants to give that baby everything, his life. He’d give him all his money if he could, and the car keeps on moving. And he’ll turn back: Oh, look at that baby.~


Elizabeth Taylor on Michael Jackson

vor etwa 1 Stunde MJJ-777 l Facebook

[geli2709]

Thursday, June 25, 2009

When Michael Jackson sang with Joe "King" Carrasco


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Back in the fall of 1981, the band I managed Joe "King" Carrasco & The Crowns, signed a recording contract with MCA Records to make their second album, Synapse Gap (Mundo Total) We lived at the Tropicana Motel on Santa Monica Blvd., ate breakfast at Duke's and spend the rest of the time at Studio 55 at 5555 Melrose, right by the Paramount Studio gates. The studio was a tricked out facility with two rooms that was owned by Producer Richard Perry. The other room was booked by the Jackson family who were mixing down their live album. Over the course of the next two weeks, we got to know the Jacksons, hang with them in the rec room where the TV was, and even share some of the fried chicken their aunt had bought them.

Michael was already a star, having hit platinum with his Off The Wall album; the best selling album of all time, Thriller, would be issued in less than a year. Michael seemed like a nice guy for a twenty three year old. He was quiet, shy, and polite, not saying a whole lot except when asked. The only indication he was Michael Jackson was the Rolls Royce Bentley he drove to and from the studio. Once he had a flat about a block from the studio but summoned help by using his mobile phone, the first wireless cell phone I'd ever witnessed. Then again, there were those times I'd walk into the men's room and see MJ standing in front of the mirror, playing with his face, like he had a big zit problem, or was contemplating some alterations......

About a week and a half into the recording session, Joe "King" mused, "Wouldn't it be cool with Michael Jackson would come in and sing harmonies on 'Don't Let A Woman (Make A Fool Out of You)'?"

It was a reggae-fied tune Joe had written that sounded more than a little like "No Woman, No Cry."

Someone said to Joe, "Why don't you ask him?" So he did, and Michael said Yes.

So there he was, headphones covering his ears, trying to figure out just who was this Joe "King" character, while he professionally stepped up to a microphone facing Joe, nailing the high harmonies and making Joe sound good. Someone by the mixing board wisecracked that Joe's vocals should be mixed out of the recording so we could release a dub version of Micheal Jackson singing the song.

As it turned out, the song was mixed with both voices and released on the album and as a single which generated some airplay for a few weeks before dying (dirty little secret: MCA didn't give a shit about Joe "King" who was signed by the label as a favor from their president, a former accountant, to another accountant who was doing JKC's books; and you wonder why the music industry is dead).

I had to pay union scale for Michael on the session, and cut him a check for $100. which was cashed. The album came and went, although Joe and band did tour with the Police behind the record. Within the year, Michael would release the best selling album on all time, Thriller.

Say what you want about his music career, his personal life, his plastic surgery and his love of children and of childhood, which he didn't have much of because he was too busy working. At the heart of it all, he struck me as a nice person, cocooned in a not-so-nice business.

SOURCE: http://joenickp.blogspot.com/2009/06...-joe-king.html
— mit Missy Snyder und Oscar Jackson Morales.
(http://www.joeking.com/press/mojo_jan_08.pdf)

[geli2709]

Ich habe gerade diese süße und berührende Geschichte gefunden:

MJ rettet ein kleines Mädchen, da es sonst überfahren worden wäre ...
und MJ ging verkleidet Eis essen ... eine ältere Dame erkannte ihn aber doch ...




Michael’s Armenian Driver Gokor after the Memorial, 2009

Michael's armenischer Fahrer Gokor, nach dem Memoral 2009


Michael’s driver and friend-Gokor was interviewed by a local Armenian channel shortly after the ‘memorial”(Gokor is Armenian). One day Gokor was driving Michael to an important meeting, Mike as usual was looking out of the window watching people outside and the red light went and they stopped.

There was a little girl with her mum on the pavement, she was playing with her ball while her mum was busy talking on the phone and then the girl’s ball rolled onto the motorway and the girl ran out to get it, and as she was doing so the green light for the cars turned back on and a car continued heading in the direction of the little girl.

Mike was following all of this happening and at that moment he opened the car door and ran out of his car to save the little girl. Gokor didn’t have enough time to figure out what was happening as all he could see was a car heading MJ’s way and he thought he was going to die. Luckily they both managed to make it across the street and the mother pulled her daughter away from the road.

When Michael got back into the car he and Gokor were trembling with shock and Mike was in tears over the thought that the car might have run the little girl down, but at that moment Michael hadn’t cared about his own life, he was ready to save the girl.

The driver also said that Michael used to disguise himself and take a mini cab with Gokor and they would go out to ice-crem shops and wait in queues and nobody would know that Michael Jackson was near them.

Once when they were waiting in line, Michael asked Gokor to tell the old lady who was next to them that he (Gokor) would pay for her. The lady turned Gokor down several times, finally Gokor turned around to Michael and said loudly: “You see MICHAEL JACKSON she doesn’t want me to.”

After that everyone turned to look at them and the old lady couldn’t believe it, she went down on her knees, was trembling and crying with shock. Michael helped her to stand up, held her, kissed her and then paid for ice-cream for everyone in the shop.

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[cori79]

Siedah Garrett schreibt bei facebook über einige ihrer Momente mit Michael (kleine Anekdoten)

MEMORIES OF MJ: (Repost) Michael had a mischievous sense-of-humor. While in the studio recording our duet "I Just Can't Stop Loving You", he began tossing popcorn in my face in an effort to make me mess-up. Producer Quincy Jones, not seeing this, began to chastise me for flubbing the takes. Michael, on the other hand, was just CRACKING UP! Love you MJ.

MEMORIES OF MJ: On Friday, I did a vocal session for my new cd with the incredible group Naturally 7 at LA's Westlake Studio, the same room where I recorded "Man In The Mirror" and "I Just Can't Stop Loving You" with Michael. It stirred up a lot of special memories, and I became overcome with emotion. We felt his spirit in the room as we sang the new lyrics "if you let love inside, then you'll see love will change your life". I love you, Michael. You changed my life.

MEMORIES OF MJ: At one of our full dress rehearsals for the Dangerous World Tour, Michael shared with me that he felt the most alive during the two hours he spent performing on stage. Although he found joy in writing, recording and in other areas, those two hours were the happiest of his life.

MEMORIES OF MJ: I came to the studio expecting to finish recording background vocals on “Man In The Mirror.” When I arrived, a different song was playing. Quincy asked, “What do you think about this song, Sid? Do you like it?” “Yeah, it’s nice,” I replied. “Do you think you can sing it?” “Uh…yeah.” “Why don’t you go on in there and see? Michael, go in there too.” Michael followed me into the vocal booth, and I saw the lyrics to “I Just Can’t Stop Loving You” on the music stand. It showed Michael was to sing the first verse and chorus and I to sing the second. It was at that moment that I realized I was going to be singing a duet with Michael frickin’ Jackson! Whoa!

MEMORIES OF MJ: After Quincy played the "Man In The Mirror" demo for Michael, he called me from the studio and put Michael on the phone. Next I heard a soft, high-pitched “Hello—“ Okay, in my mind, I was screaming, “OH, MY GOD”! This is Michael Jackson! Talking to ME! See, every black girl my age, who grew up listening to the Jackson 5, had a ‘husband’ from the group picked out. My sister’s was Jermaine and mine was Michael. So, as far as I was concerned, I was now talking to my childhood ‘husband!’ Yeah, inside I was a mess, but my outward demeanor was as unflappable as an AT&T telephone operator. I calmly responded, “Hello, how can I help you?”

Weiterhin schreibt sie, daß sie ein Buch schreiben will über ihre Zeit als Sängerin bei diversen Künstlern.

[geli2709]

Michael wollte, dass Nate Giorgio dieses Bild für ihn malt und gab ihr in einem Brief Instruktionen


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"Schwarzes Kind mit einem weißen Handschuh, der leuchtet"

http://www.mj-777.com/?p=8510#de

In diesem Artikel wird auch die tschechische Künstlerin Helena Kadlcikova
vorgestellt, die das Glück hatte Michael persönlich kennenlernen zu dürfen,
3 Monate auf Neverland verbrachte, und für ihn verschiedene Gemälde
anfertigte.
Sie schildert eindrucksvoll ihre Erlebnisse und Erfahrungen.

[Michaela]

Danke, diese Sammlung ist unbezahlbar!

[geli2709]

In The News : Michael Jackson Remembered by His Band


Geschrieben von PYT-ID am 14.10.2011 18:20 News by the same author


"All I know is when I was with him, he was the sweetest person in the world," says Tommy Organ, a guitarist who was a featured player in the This Is It rehearsals. "When he came on stage he was always happy, always trying to help. When he heard anything that was out of key or wasn't the right part, he would hum the exact notes he wanted and then he would end it with, 'I'm telling you with love.' It was never 'Hey, what are you doing over there!', it was always 'maybe you should try this, with love'. You wanna play for a person like that."

"Michael was not a musician but he had the ears of a musician, there was nothing that he didn't hear," recalls Kevin Dorsey, a backing singer for Jackson for over 20 years. "Always in the show, if someone made a mistake, he'd turn around and smile and point at them. He could hear through everything." He recalls his first rehearsals with Jackson, for the Bad tour in 1988. "We were two hours and twenty minutes into the show, and there was a lighting error, and Michael said 'all right, let's go to the top.' I thought, 'OK , go to the top of the song, get it over with and take a break'. I thought I had six minutes left. And the other guys looked at me, they laughed, and said, 'wait and watch.' He didn't mean the top of the song, he meant the top of the show. I had to do another two hours and 26 minutes. I said right there, this is going to be quite a run."


"To me he was the epitome of excellence," says Johnson. "This guy was totally involved in everything, more involved than I have seen any musician in my thirty years of career. In rehearsals, when musicians go through a run through, you might sing a wrong note or play a wrong chord and make a face like, 'oops, hope they didn't hear that'. Sometimes the artist will catch you, sometimes they won't. Michael would go through three or four songs in a row, and he'd be so into entertainment mode, he would rehearse as if there were thirty or forty thousand people in front of him. Then he'd stop and go, 'now in the first song, second verse, there should have been this part, and in the second song, first verse, you did this, then on the beginning of the third verse...' Like, how did he hear it, first of all, and how did he retain it when he was doing his performance to even come back and correct us? That was amazing to me. "


"He was not one of the guys, who'd go out with us to the Hard Rock and kick back with a beer," admits Dorsey, of the man he called Slim. "But we would have fun. He laughed a lot, quite a joker, he loved what he did. His work was his play." Dorsey suggests that Jackson didn't tour more often because of what it took out of him. "When he comes off that stage, there's nothing left. Nothing left. Then he goes back to the hotel, he showers, eats, looks at the performance that we had that night, and then rehearses until four or five in the morning. I've never seen anyone with that work ethic, that just refuses to be nothing less than perfect." Dorsey comes close to suggesting that the intense demands of the This Is It shows might have proved too much for Jackson. "A big thing was him being able to do things on his own terms. He was always comfortable when we worked twice a week, when we pushed him to three and four shows a week, it just wouldn't work. I'm not saying he was not in the physical condition, but when you put out like that, you just don't have that three and four times a week, it's virtually impossible... He gave so much but you can only spread yourself so thin. How much does anyone have to give?"


Dorsey, who is musical director of the Michael Forever band, admits it has been personally hard rehearsing his friend's songs with guest artists. "I'm so used to hearing it from him, I know there's certain parts to the song where he would dig in, and you need that, cause it takes us to the next gear, and then as he gets to the vamp, he digs in one more time, and we go up to the next gear. And an artist can be performing, and I'm waiting for that to kick in, and in their own way they do it, but no one can do it like him. This band is pushing all the vocalists. Either you get down like you live, or the band is going to take it over. With other artists, I don't know the intensity of their performance. With Slim, you always know what you're gonna get ... and that's everything."

Source: telegraph.co.uk

http://www.mjtunes.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=156

[cori79]

more memories from Siedah Garett:

Siedah Garrett II
MEMORIES OF MJ: Whenever Michael was at Westlake Studio recording with a group of guests or a choir, he liked to hide in the loft area above the room to observe other people in their "natural" element. Being unaware of his presence, many would do and say things that they would never do while standing in awe of his phenomenal talent. I always knew when he was hiding, and he would wink at me and "shush" me when I busted him peeking. I think he took to me because I was always myself when around him.

[geli2709]

03.11.11: Prince Michael spricht über Pläne für Singles während This Is It


La Velle Smith und Michael Prince waren in Piers Morgan Show auf CNN und sprachen nochmals über Michael Jacksons letztes Projekt This Is It. Auch über andere Projekte: “Wir wollten Kurzfilme machen. Du weisst, Michael liebt die Kurzfilme. Wir arbeiteten an einem Cowboy Film”, sagt La Velle Smith. So etwas wie ein modernes Musical von “Legs Diamond”, erklärt Prince Michael. “Weil Michael bereits einige gagstermässige Sounds wie Smooth Criminal hatte.”

Ein Plan war auch, alle paar Monate Singles zu veröffentlichen. Und am Ende wäre dann ein Album erschienen. Prince Michael bestätigt Morgans Behauptung: “Auf diese Weise wirst du nicht jedes Mal, wenn du ein Album rausbringst, mit Thriller verglichen. Darum wollte er das machen während wir auf Tour sind, vielleicht eine Single alle acht Wochen.
Und dann, sobald du zehn draussen hast fügst du zwei neue Songs hinzu und du hast ein Album. Er wollte auch ein Kinder-Album machen. Denn er liebte diese wunderschönen, unschuldigen Songs für Kinder zu schreiben. Er wollte ein klassisches Album machen, weil er eine Menge Melodien hatte, zu denen er keine Worte schreiben wollte.”
Das komplette Transkript des Interviews hier auf CNN:
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...01/pmt.01.html


Quelle: jackson.ch, cnn.com

http://www.jackson.ch/html/news.html

TRANSCRIPTS





PIERS MORGAN TONIGHT

Jaycee Dugard's Mother Speaks Out

Aired November 1, 2011 - 21:00 ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.


PIERS MORGAN, HOST: Tonight, an extraordinary story of survival against all odds. A child abducted in broad daylight on her way to school.

TERRY PROBYN, JAYCEE DUGARD'S MOTHER: You may like her but we love her, too. And it's time that she comes home to her family.

MORGAN: Jaycee Dugard's mother lived a nightmare for 18 years not knowing if her daughter was dead or alive. Then the impossible. Jaycee, her two daughters fathered by her captor, finally saved and rescued. But after all the headlines, how is Jaycee doing now?

Tonight her mother tells their incredible story.

Plus the inside story of Michael Jackson's inner circle. What really went on the hours before Michael died and two men who worked with the king of pop for years.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He said tomorrow, we're going to discuss all the vocals for the tour. You know? And that was the last time I spoke to him.

MORGAN: This is PIERS MORGAN TONIGHT.

Jaycee Dugard's mother never gave up hope that she could see her daughter again. But it took 18 agonizing years. Jaycee's story made headlines around the world. And as she and her family are putting their lives back together, joining me now is Jaycee's mother, Terry Probyn, and Rebecca Bailey, who's Jaycee's therapist.

Welcome to you both. An extraordinary story. One of the most extraordinary I think I have ever encountered in sort of 30 years of journalism.

The obvious question is, how are things going? I mean how is normal life? Can it be normal for you and Jaycee?

PROBYN: Absolutely. This is what's normal for us and every day is a challenge and we've worked through it and, you know, therapists help us and we help each other and it's one day at a time.

MORGAN: How's she?

PROBYN: Pretty awesome. She's happy. And healthy. And learning and experiencing new things every day. And I get the joy of watching that. I missed 18 years of that kid's life and every day is a blessing in my eyes.

MORGAN: Do you -- I mean, how hard is it to be relentlessly positive given the horrors that she had to endure, given the horror that you had to endure as somebody who didn't even know if she's alive or dead?

Obviously, it ended happily and you got Jaycee back but you've lost this huge amount of time with your daughter. And she must be scarred by what happened to her in ways you may not even realize yet. So how easy is it to just say, OK, we're going to rebuild and get on with our lives?

PROBYN: I think a lot of it depends -- is dependent upon Jaycee and her attitude. She is strong and she's a survivor and she has proved it over and over again. And I actually find her picking me up every once in a while with just her joy of life and her simple happiness that she and I are reconnected and, you know, life is -- life is OK. You know? You can get through the worst of the worst and she's living proof.

MORGAN: She wrote this - again, extraordinary book "A Stolen Life," which I read in one sitting.

PROBYN: Yes.

MORGAN: And it was searing and incredibly detailed and very self aware, I thought, about what had happened to her and the implications of all of this. But I was struck by something that she said in the acknowledgments about you, which I wanted to just read to you -- just parts of it because it was so moving.

"There are people many people I want to thank. First and foremost, I want to thank my mom. Mom, you're the bravest person I know, the ultimate survivor. If I was ever to harbor any hate in my heart it would be for all that you have suffered because of Phillip and Nancy Garrido. Mom, you never gave up hope that I would one day come home. And here I am, so glad to be back.

"You are everything I remember and more and you've embraced your grandchildren in a way I never believed possible. They truly have a grandmother that loves them unconditionally. Thank you for supporting me. As a single mother, you've always been my hero. I knew in my heart when I stared at the moon that you were still holding on to hope and that hope somehow helped me get by."

PROBYN: It helps me get by, too.

MORGAN: I found myself getting emotional. Never mind what you must have felt when you read that. I mean it's -- this picture of your daughter staring at the moon from this awful situation she was in. Believing that you were somewhere there.

PROBYN: Yes.

MORGAN: Never giving up hope. PROBYN: That's right. I have to share two days before I found out where she was I had worked a double shift. I had come home. I was tired. There was a full moon. I looked up at the moon. I said, OK, Jaycee, where are you? And my younger daughter came out to see who I was talking to. The moon, just the moon.

And so I did that all through the 18 years. That's one of my survival techniques was to just stay connected, finding something that we shared, and stayed connected with that kid. And it got me through and it paid off.

MORGAN: Let me take you back to the awful days she disappeared. And everybody knows the story now but for you that moment when you thought she'd gone, I mean, it's every mother's nightmare, it's every parent's nightmare. Can you remember that feeling?

PROBYN: Absolutely. Absolutely.

MORGAN: I mean, like it was yesterday?

PROBYN: It was -- I had a really hard time accepting it. I -- it was a nightmare. That I'm going to wake up and Jaycee experienced the same thing at the beginning. You know? OK. I'm going to wake up from this nightmare. I'm going to get through this.

And it -- it was a nightmare. I hate going back and it's really hard for me. I want to live in the present. I want to enjoy every moment I have with that kid but, you know, there's a lot of anger for what happened and I will somehow get through it.

MORGAN: Although Jaycee has been very forgiving, extraordinarily so, of the people that took her, you haven't. I totally understand why. I don't think I could forgive people who did that to a child of mine.

PROBYN: Absolutely not.

MORGAN: How do you feel now two years later? Has your feeling subsided at all or do you feel this awful hate towards them?

PROBYN: I -- the hate fuels the fire for the changes that need to be made. One of my big -- really big ones is that anybody that does a heinous crime to a child or anybody, anything that it's life without parole. You know? Bottom line. You don't give them second and third and fourth chances.

I strongly believe in that and I want to push for legislation and change. I want to -- don't want this to happen to anybody else. How many times -- I'm not here to point fingers but how many times was that house observed and gone through and, you know, the right thing to do is to speak out and say what you believe and if change needs to be made then let's do it.

MORGAN: You know, I mean, there were horrendous failings in the system that allowed this man who was a convicted kidnapper, sexual predator, nobody ever thought to look in the backyard. PROBYN: Nope.

MORGAN: I mean, just extraordinary that that could have happened. But it did end happily for you.

PROBYN: It did.

MORGAN: Unlike many people that go through this where it ends in a terrible way.

PROBYN: It taught us a lesson. It fueled a fire for the need and we formed a Jaycee Foundation where we're asking people to slow down, stop, care. Excuse me. Slow down, stop and care and take a minute and do your job.

MORGAN: And it stands for Just Ask Yourself to Care.

PROBYN: Yes.

MORGAN: And the pine cones that --

PROBYN: Yes.

MORGAN: You're both wearing, actually, around your necks. That is the symbol of this foundation.

PROBYN: Absolutely.

MORGAN: And the significance of that is what?

PROBYN: Well, it was not only the last thing that Jaycee touched that was her reality back then but it's also a symbol of new beginnings.

MORGAN: Because she actually touched a pine cone as she was being forced in to this nightmare.

PROBYN: Yes.

MORGAN: Physically dragged away.

PROBYN: And she has an attraction to pine cones and, you know, delving in to that with Dr. Bailey, just gave us an opportunity to say, wow, this could be a new beginning. We could make these changes. We're very hopeful that, you know, something -- somebody else doesn't have to go through the things that we went through.

MORGAN: I want to play you a clip from the interview you did with Diane Sawyer for ABC. A very moving interview. This is the happy bit so I think you'll enjoy this.

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JAYCEE DUGARD, RESCUED AFTER 18 YEARS OF CAPTIVITY: And I was crying, you know, and you're crying, you can't speak. I just said, come quick. I remember saying come, come quick. PROBYN: And I remember telling you I'm coming, baby. I'm coming.

DUGARD: And the rest was a blur.

PROBYN: Yes.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

MORGAN: What a moment. What a moment for you. Eighteen years and you get a phone call. How do you hear?

PROBYN: Wow. Yes. I was at work and the FBI had left me a message saying that it was urgent that I speak with them. And in the --

MORGAN: And what was your first thought when you -- when they did that?

PROBYN: I kind of blew it off because I had heard it so many times. I need to talk to you, Terry. What's going on? We think we have a lead. We don't have a lead. Not really misleading me but keeping me up to date, keeping me informed, and after 18 years I pretty much became immune, and so I didn't feel it was real urgent to call him back.

That I would call him back the next day or whatever or when I got off work and in the interim the sheriff's department had contacted my younger daughter and told her what was happening and she called me and said, mom, you really need to talk to the sheriff. He has news for you but she wouldn't say anything.

MORGAN: She knew?

PROBYN: She knew. She did.

MORGAN: But she wouldn't tell you?

PROBYN: She needed it to come from them. And it did.

MORGAN: So you called the sheriff?

PROBYN: No. The sheriff actually -- I picked up the phone the next phone call because I knew it was important enough to pick up and I did.

MORGAN: I mean, you're sensing it's good news now?

PROBYN: I -- no, I -- no. I just said, OK. Something's up. I don't know what's up. I'll figure it out. I'll take care of it. And -- so when I talked to them and they told me that we have your -- we know where Jaycee is, it was that disbelief again. It was not reliving the nightmare but the shock of having this happen and then having her come back was a little overwhelming and I wasn't going to get on that roller coaster and ride.

I was going to be real and then, you know, my excitement, being able to talk to her was phenomenal.

MORGAN: What were the first words that you exchanged? Do you remember?

PROBYN: No. What did I say?

MORGAN: You were too excited?

PROBYN: Too excited. Way too excited.

MORGAN: What did her voice sound like after all that time?

PROBYN: Same, same.

MORGAN: You knew instantly it's this little girl even though --

PROBYN: I knew it was her instantly. Yes, I hadn't seen her in 18 years so -- of course the rest of the evening wasn't anything I remember much of. Just getting on the plane and getting to her as quickly as I could.

MORGAN: Could you -- could you quite believe it?

PROBYN: No.

MORGAN: Could you quite believe it was happening? Was it like some strange fairytale ending to the nightmare?

PROBYN: Yes. It was. It's a good happy ever after.

MORGAN: And it's a fantastic happy ever after.

Let's have a little break and come back and talk about the darker moment when you came face to face with the man that had taken your daughter.

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MATTHEW CATE, CORRECTIONS SECRETARY: We agree that serious errors were made over the last 10 years. We obviously deeply regret any error that could have possibly resulted in the victims living under these conditions for even one additional day.

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MORGAN: An extraordinary moment in 2009 as California officials admit that mistakes were made in the hunt for Jaycee Dugard. Jaycee's mother Terry Probyn is back with me now and her doctor Rebecca Bailey, Jaycee's therapist.

You came face to face with this guy, Phillip Garrido. You saw him.

PROBYN: I wouldn't say face to face. I watched him being interviewed as sheriff asked him what happened that morning. Trying to get --

MORGAN: What emotions did you go through?

PROBYN: All kinds. Hate, anger, sadness. All of the above. No compassion. I have a lot of compassion and a lot of empathy for a lot of people but not him and certainly not her. How could another woman hold another woman's child for her sexual predator husband? Unbelievable.

MORGAN: Beyond comprehension.

PROBYN: Beyond.

MORGAN: And, you know, he was allowed to do because he'd been let out just 11 years for kidnap and rape, in itself is reprehensible for someone who had done this in that way before, could be back on the streets free to do it all over again. I mean no wonder you feel so anger -- angry.

What's I think amazing about you, you talk about your lack of forgiveness for the Garridos but actually the remarkable compassion you've shown for the two children that Jaycee had.

PROBYN: Oh, those are my grand babies. I love those grand babies.

MORGAN: Yes, I find -- I find that profoundly moving that you can do that.

PROBYN: How can you not? They're innocent children. I -- they're Jaycee's babies. You know? It's funny, you know. We find things that are alike in us and it's just really cool. I have two granddaughters.

MORGAN: Can you block out his involvement in their lives? Can you block it out completely?

PROBYN: I have to. For their sake. For their health. For their wellbeing. They don't need my anger. I need to direct my anger to do the better good of the foundation. You know? We want to service families. In fact, the foundation mandates us to service family that go through this kind of tragedy.

MORGAN: Let me bring in Dr. Bailey here because this -- you specialize in this kind of reunification I think you call it where you have experienced of lots of cases like this, not obviously as horrific as this I would imagine. I mean, a very complex situation psychologically, emotionally, physically.

You know, a young girl taken in her -- before she's even 10 years old and she's had two babies who grow up and still in this captivity, and then she gets saved and, you know, in many cases that's when a lot of the problems really start, when they try to come back to real life.

How's it been with Jaycee? How have you been able to rehabilitate her back to some kind of normality? REBECCA BAILEY, JAYCEE DUGARD'S THERAPIST: We have a fantastic team. We have a great group of therapists. We have a fantastic family. We have wonderful animals. We have a whole group of people and she --

PROBYN: We choose not to be the victim actually.

BAILEY: Right. And as strange as this sounds she was living a life. It wasn't a life she chose. It wasn't a life anyone -- any of us would choose for her either but it was a life. She was getting up in the morning. Going to bed at night.

PROBYN: Surviving.

BAILEY: Surviving. And she's taught all of us an awful lot. And to say the word complex is not even a strong enough word.

MORGAN: Understatement, right?

BAILEY: It is the understatement of the year. This -- the experience has been incredibly challenging. At the same point, my approach and the approach of the therapists that I work with has always been to take each case individually and let the families teach us about themselves.

MORGAN: What advice do you give in terms of how the family should think of the people that did this to them? And also, the guilt that came through clearly from Jaycee's book that she didn't try and get away when she had maybe some opportunities? The guilt that she feels to her children that she didn't somehow get out of it. How do you tackle that kind of emotional dilemma?

BAILEY: Well, I think guilt is your word. I think that, again, when people are in a situation, they do what they have to to survive and in many homes in this country, in this world, there are horrendous things happening, and people come out scarred certainly but nevertheless people survive through amazing circumstances so I think Jay is -- Jaycee is -- the most important thing she has taught all of us is in the word she said during her interview is that she refuses to give them one more moment of her time.

MORGAN: Yes.

BAILEY: And these children are signs of hope. They are not signs of despair.

MORGAN: How are they dealing with the reality of discovery of the whole thing?

BAILEY: I think it's been extremely important that the media has respected -- thanks to the fabulous PR person, has respected their space.

MORGAN: I found her amazing in that interview. Her poise. Her intelligence. Her -- you know, her confidence almost actually which I really wasn't expecting. You expected to see a broken woman. Were you surprised by --

PROBYN: She could have been.

MORGAN: Yes.

PROBYN: But I think that immediate response to our needs, our dilemma was what saved us. We had a team of specialists come in and just pretty much take over and spend time with us and care for us.

MORGAN: Hold that thought for a moment. Let's have a break and come back and talk about what the future holds for Jaycee, for the girls, for you.

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PROBYN: She's pretty, young, innocent child, and you may like her but we love her, too. And it's time that she comes home to her family. Her sissy's been asking for her. And she needs to be with us.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

MORGAN: That was Terry Probyn just days after her daughter Jaycee Dugard was abducted in 1991.

I'm back now with Terry and Jaycee's therapist, Rebecca Bailey.

I mean hard for you to even look at that, isn't it? Unsurprisingly.

PROBYN: Yes. Just brings back all the haunting nightmares and the memories and, you know, reading her book validates what she was going through. You know, all of the imaginations, the truth.

MORGAN: The one big positive out of this is this foundation. We discussed it earlier. It was called JAYC, Just Ask Yourself to Care. And I want to play a little public service announcement which is --

PROBYN: That would be great.

MORGAN: It's very powerful.

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DUGARD: Hi, this is Jaycee Dugard. Just ask yourself to care. If you see something that looks wrong or amiss, speak out. You might be wrong but you might just save someone's life.

This is presented by the JAYC Foundation.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

MORGAN: What's been the best thing do you think for Jaycee since she came back to you and her old life? What's been the thing that she realized other than just seeing you again that she missed the most?

PROBYN: Having a life. Not being told what to do, when to do, how to do, where to do. She pretty much makes her own decision. She's an adult woman.

MORGAN: Can she lead any kind of -- does she want to work? Does she want to -- well, she works for the foundation but does she want to do anything else with her life? Does she have ambition now?

PROBYN: Absolutely. She truly believes in this foundation. She wants to pay it forward. She wants -- she doesn't want somebody else to go through what she had to go through even for a moment and I think caring about people and working with animals has been her whole life dream.

The diary that she kept while in captivity, you know, all of her dreams are coming true. That's what makes Jaycee happy.

MORGAN: What's been the best part of it for you?

PROBYN: Being able to hold her. Kiss her, hug her. Yes. I miss that kiss good-bye that morning. It's a constant reminder, constant, you know, guilt thing but I see she forgives and I can forgive and forget.

MORGAN: Do you think she'll -- may meet a Mr. Right, get married, live a fairy tale life that you would imagine you wanted for your daughter?

PROBYN: I hope so. I hope so. That's her decision, though. You know? It's what makes her feel comfortable.

MORGAN: And Dr. Bailey, is it very hard for someone like Jaycee in this position to form a normal relationship with a man again? I mean what advice do you give for that aspect of her life? Because she's 31 now?

BAILEY: I don't think -- she's had a normal relationship with a man at all. She has her horse and she's passionate about her horse and working with her horse. I think that that's a question best left unanswered. Who knows? She lives fully and she's extremely happy. She embraces each other day with an awful lot of joy and excitement, just the little things that we take for granted.

MORGAN: Does she have terrible days? Sort of awful flashbacks, nightmares?

BAILEY: She worked through some material early on and that's where the horse work was tremendously useful with her was that some of the early difficult experiences she was able to get in touch with in the arena with the horses, with my assistant and the other therapist assistants and --

MORGAN: What's the idea behind that? When you bring in horses to somebody who loves animals, loves horses and so on, what's the concept for how that acts as therapy? BAILEY: It's actually so simple that it's hard to describe sometimes.

PROBYN: I would say insight.

BAILEY: Insight into to your own. Horses are archetypes. They represent the themes we see over and over in our life. The best example I can give you is of a young girl that I was working with whose best friend had been murdered by her mother, and one day we walk and she wasn't able to talk about it. It was a 6-year-old. We walked down in to the arena and laying in the arena, in the sand were the horses, the dog and the cat flat out in the sand and this little girl's jaw just dropped as did mine, and she looked at me and she said, I think that's what happened to my friend.

It was sort of you can't describe some of the things that happen. You can't really put a word to it. It's certainly not magic but it has the ability to bring forward images that might be -- they're difficult to sit in an office and talk about so for Jaycee to go in to the arena and work through some of these experiences.

I was asking her to give me an example of one that she particularly liked. And it was when she first came out the first week, she made a box out of posts in the sand. And after the first day, the horse wouldn't come out of that for the next four or five sessions. And she said she was able to look at that and say, well, that's how I feel. It's really hard to be out of that box which she just in talking, sitting in the office we weren't getting to that.

MORGAN: How important finally is the love and the strength of a mother like Terry who just never gave up, who made sure this picture of Jaycee that the famous iconic images were seen again and again and again?

How vital is that do you think to what happened?

BAILEY: You can look at this wonderful woman right here, and you can see where so much of Jaycee's strength comes from, in her poise, in her ability to stare things straight down. So everything, everything to come home to a mother who you talk about forgiveness, to come home and have a mother who didn't even skip a beat in accepting those two daughters. Didn't even skip -- didn't even --

MORGAN: It's been an amazing thing that you have done. I think you're a remarkable woman. Your daughter's a remarkable woman.

PROBYN: Thank you.

MORGAN: And I'm just so happy for you and your family that it ended the way it did.

PROBYN: Thank you.

MORGAN: Thank you very much for joining. It's been a real pleasure.

PROBYN: Thank you.

MORGAN: Thank you for joining me.

BAILEY: Thank you.

MORGAN: Coming up, Michael Jackson's last days from two of the men who really did know him best.

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MORGAN: Joining me now two members of Michael Jackson's inner circle. Men who may have known him better than even his famous family. Lavelle Smith and Michael Durham Prince worked with Michael as he prepare to go on tour and with him in those fateful, final days.

Gentlemen, thank you very much for joining me.

LAVELLE SMITH, JR., CHOREOGRAPHER: My pleasure.

MICHAEL DURHAM PRINCE, SUPERVISING MUSIC EDITOR, "THIS IS IT": Pleasure.

MORGAN: Having followed Michael a long time and reported on him and see him in concert, I know how integral you guys were to his world. Strange times for you it must have been.

SMITH: Very strange.

MORGAN: Since the death.

SMITH: Very strange.

MORGAN: I mean, how would you sum up your feelings?

SMITH: Sadness. Sadness but I do feel really blessed because the happiness that he left with me was all the work we did together. You know? That won't go away. But the sadness that we don't get to create anymore with him. That's sad.

MORGAN: You were dancing with him since 1987.

SMITH: Yes. "Smooth Criminal" was actually the first video. The first tour was "Bad," and then "Dangerous," and then "History." And then we started working on "This Is It." When he called that in 2008 in Vegas, and that was going to be -- he was excited. You know?

We were both bringing out costumes, picking props. You know, thinking about what that show could be. Had no name. And just had a great time for six months in Vegas working like crazy. He was excited. I was excited. You know, whenever he gets excited, I get excited.

MORGAN: Michael, you can't believe what happened? I mean, you guys, had been working with Michael right to the end. Was there a massive shock? I mean, were there any signs that he was -- you know, I've heard contrary views. I heard that he was very frail, that the stuff you didn't see in the movie, he was fainting. He was always kind of faint. That's what some of the family believe.

What did you see?

PRINCE: All of 2008, I was in Vegas along with Lavelle. He'd show up on dance days. I showed up on music days. And I just had the feeling, Michael is getting ready for his close up. He just started looking better. You could tell he was -- his energy was going up. And then in 2009, extremely excited. You know?

He gave us a speech about how important this was to him. That he could spend the rest of his life doing his greatest hits, but that's not what he wanted to do. He said, I want to write new songs. I want to have better songs than I ever had. We're going to add those to the show. And I really have never seen him that energized before. That in the moment before, right up until the last night when I gave him a hug and he gave me a hug, you know. And he felt strong. He said tomorrow we're going to discuss all the vocals for the tour, you know. And that was the last time I spoke to him.

MORGAN: I mean, from a dance point of view, from a voice point of view, where was he do you think given all the experience you have had with him? Was he ready to go?

PRINCE: Yes.

SMITH: There was no stopping him.

MORGAN: To do 50 shows?

PRINCE: Oh, yes.

SMITH: Yes, 50, but at first --

PRINCE: Remember his pace -- not to interrupt, but his pace was going to be two, two and a half shows a week. His family was going to be there. He was going to have a house in London, outside of London. And we had a good chat. He and I about that.

How this was the hard part, rehearsing is the hard part. You know, four, five, six nights a week. Doing videos during the day. Once we got to the U.K., once we started the shows, that was going to be almost a vacation. Truly, you know. I don't want to say that because they were going to pay me, but I mean, honestly, it would have been. And he knew that.

MORGAN: So originally it was ten shows.

PRINCE: Yes.

MORGAN: Then he got made in to 50. I remember that happening. I think, you know, Michael, you're talking about a guy who was not as young as he used to be. 50 shows is pretty demanding, even if you're only doing 2, 3 shows a week.

PRINCE: Absolutely. SMITH: I remember him saying there's ten shows. It's going to be fantastic. And I do remember a day when the ten shows turned to 34. He said, Lavelle, you know, there's 34 shows, I got to do them. That seemed to be a little bit like, you know, wow, this is a lot. And Then I remember it kept growing.

What I remember is that he was really honored that that many people wanted to see him.

MORGAN: I had tickets to the first one.

SMITH: Yes.

MORGAN: I was excited. I mean, he -- I saw him in Paris once. It was the best concert I ever saw.

SMITH: Men, he was just honored that people wanted to see so as much as maybe 34 or the 50 shows were like, oh man, this is going to be crazy. The smile on his face showed me that he felt so honored that people really wanted to see him.

MORGAN: Let me ask you a different question. Did you ever see him taking drugs of any kind?

PRINCE: Never.

MORGAN: He seems to have been a very closed world. What we're hearing from all this trial that's happened and from interviews of people involved is that there were two Michaels.

There was the Michael that people thought they knew and there was the guy who chronic pain from when he had the terrible Pepsi accident and then to counter this, the terrible insomnia he used to get, mixed with the pressure and everything else, and so he got more and more into sleeping medication ending up with Demerol for the pain and the Propofol for sleeping.

I mean, you put it all together and he was leading two lives. I mean, there was a night time Michael Jackson that you guys I assume didn't see.

PRINCE: Did not see. And honestly, most of the time, when we were with him, I don't think that night time Michael Jackson was around because he had the kids around. We were at the ranch. We were at a hotel almost like a vacation and we're working on new songs. And there was no pressure on him. He didn't have to get up the next day if he didn't want to. He didn't have to perform the next day. I think that pressure comes in to play when there's a show. You know? When there's a huge tour.

SMITH: Exactly.

MORGAN: Let's take a little break. I want to come back and talk to you about the dreadful day that you both found out that Michael died. And how you see his legacy developing. How you would like it to develop. (COMMERCIAL BREAK)

ANDERSON COOPER, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Breaking news on "360." At 10:00 p.m. Eastern, we'll talk to an attorney for one of Herman Cain's accusers. He says his client is, quote, "very upset" and believes Cain is not telling the truth about the sexual harassment allegations against him. Cain is also speaking out tonight saying he's the victim of a smear campaign. Does he have the facts to back that up? We're keeping him honest.

Also tonight, more fallout from the investigation of "Fast and Furious," the botched operation to let guns go to the hands of Mexican drug cartels. New information about how that disaster could have been prevented. Those stories and tonight's "Ridiculist" at the top of the hour.

PIERCE MORGAN back in a moment.

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MICHAEL JACKSON, MUSICIAN: Yes. That's a cool move.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK.

JACKSON: Cool move.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Just spreads out too much at the end.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We need to stop it.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Boom.

JACKSON: Go to infinity.

(END VIDEOCLIP)

MORGAN: Back with two of Michael Jackson's closest work colleagues. Lavelle Smith and Michael Prince.

I've got to ask you a difficult question because I know how close you were. Where were you both?

I'll start with you, Lavelle, when you heard that Michael had died.

SMITH: I was at home in my bedroom watching CNN and I heard Michael Jackson went to the hospital with a heart attack. And I thought, OK. That's -- kept watching and it kept getting worse and worse. And I just thought this really either is a really bad publicity stunt or something is desperately wrong.

MORGAN: And you knew that Michael, you know, he could do publicity stunts.

SMITH: Of course. He's a show man.

MORGAN: I mean, he'd been in wheelchairs before to create an impression that he was somehow in a terrible state.

SMITH: Yes.

MORGAN: And then the next -- because he always had this thing, make the public go low in expectation and then dazzle them with the high. This was

PRINCE: Absolutely.

SMITH: P.T. Barnum. That's what you do as a showman. Yes, you build it.

MORGAN: A part of you is thinking --

SMITH: Yes.

MORGAN: -- Is this another Michael stunt?

SMITH: Yes. And I really was hoping for that. I kept hoping, and then it got worse. And then when they finally said, dead, of course, even that I didn't believe until it stayed there.

MORGAN: You saw that on CNN?

SMITH: Yes. It all went up from heart attack to something happened.

PRINCE: Not breathing.

SMITH: Not breathing, and then dead. And I was like, OK, just wait a few more minutes. And then it didn't go away. And I thought this is really crazy. I called his assistant. And she said, it's a madhouse around here. And I thought, OK, this is the real deal. I just went numb. I remember being numb for days and days. I couldn't cry. I think anger. Just every emotion except I couldn't cry.

I didn't cry until I did the TV shows with Jermaine in London. "Move Like Michael Jackson," and I was doing a little outtake like, you know, how you do for the show reading something that said Michael Jackson was -- I kept saying Michael Jackson is -- and they're like, you have to say was. I said, I got it this time. Michael Jackson is -- OK. Finally when I got was, it was over. It was over.

MORGAN: And for you? Where were you?

PRINCE: I was at the Staples Center. I was getting ready for that day's rehearsal. I had a list of changes to do from the night before, instructions from Michael. And when they said that the first thing I thought was he wants two more weeks to rehearse, you know.

And then when they finally announced that he was D-E-A-D, I still -- I went back to my computer. I made all the changes from the night before, because I was stunned. I said, well, no, he might come back, you know. And later that day, I just -- I finally had to ask somebody what to do? And he said pack your stuff up, you know? And that was -- it was dreadful.

For anything, I feel for his children, you know? He was the greatest dad in the world. Those were the loves of his life. You know? And --

MORGAN: They are extraordinary children.

SMITH: They are.

MORGAN: When I saw them in public recently, at the concert, I mean, they had remarkable confidence. And I guess you might expect it from Michael's --

PRINCE: They were brought up so well. So much love. They read a lot.

SMITH: Disciplined.

PRINCE: A lot.

SMITH: It's amazing.

PRINCE: Well-spoken, beautiful children. And I just want them to know how much he loved them. And I saw the love that they had for him. And he and I talked about that in his dressing room, you know, about when we get to the UK, and when this seven-day week thing is done, you are going to be with your family, you know, again and have a lot more quality time with them.

MORGAN: What do you guys make of the trial? Did you know Conrad Murray? Did you see him much?

SMITH: No, not at all.

MORGAN: So all this was sort of brand new to you?

SMITH: Yes.

PRINCE: Right.

SMITH: To me it is simple.

MORGAN: Does it seem like a weird other world?

SMITH: It does. It is a world that I'm forced, I don't know why, but I'm drawn to I have to have the information, and the stuff that I'm hearing is out of this world. Out of this world. To me, it is really about a legend, a doctor and something going horribly wrong that I feel like none of us will really ever get to the bottom of. There's more that --

MORGAN: My gut feeling is, I mean, Michael Jackson is not going to want to kill himself. There's no way he was in any kind of suicidal mood. SMITH: Absolutely.

PRINCE: Oh my God, no, no, no.

MORGAN: He was enjoying the preparation. He was enjoying being a father, and so on. And just from everyone I have talked to about Conrad Murray, he didn't want to kill Michael Jackson.

SMITH: Why would he?

MORGAN: So you're left with a terrible accident. And I think you are left with the technicalities of how this happened and who did what, and so which we may never know answers to.

SMITH: I have a feeling, I've said, we may never know.

MORGAN: But was it a shock to you when the tapes were played? I mean, I was staggered.

SMITH: I had no words.

MORGAN: When I first heard this, I thought this can't be Michael Jackson.

SMITH: But, listen, I know that voice, over 23 years. I knew that was him, but I didn't know why it existed. Why do that tape exist.

MORGAN: Have either of you ever heard him speak like that?

SMITH: Never. Never.

PRINCE: Never. And honestly, I told Lavelle this, I said, I think the doctor might have made that to show Michael maybe the next day, Michael, you did fall asleep, because Michael might have said I didn't fall asleep, you know.

But no I mean -- I would have never made that recording.

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SMITH: I mean who knows what he could have done with it later. That is the only --

PRINCE: That's sort of weird.

SMITH: It is weird, but it's -- it happens. Things happen that way.

MORGAN: I mean, Michael's whole life was a bit crazy, ever since the people around him and the circus element and, you know, I just felt the whole thing just unraveled in a very, very strange way and we will probably never know what really happened.

SMITH: Yes.

PRINCE: I don't think so.

SMITH: I hope we get to. But one thing I know is important is that, what Michael taught me, all the dance and all that stuff will live on because his -- his goal was to take dance and continue to take dance to higher and higher levels.

MORGAN: There were lots of theories about what Michael was planning to do. What was he planning to do?

SMITH: We were going to do short films. You know, Michael loved the short film. We were working on a cowboy film.

PRINCE: Legs Diamond --

SMITH: Legs Diamond.

PRINCE: He wanted to do like a modern musical on "Legs Diamond." Because Michael already had some gangster-ish, sounds like "Smooth Criminal."

SMITH: Yes, "Dangerous" and "Criminal."

MORGAN: I heard he also wanted to release singles every few months.

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And at the end of that have an amazing album. It could be a very unusual way of doing it.

PRINCE: Right. And that way you don't get compared to "Thriller" every time you put out an album. So he was going to do it while we were on tour, maybe a single every eight weeks. And then once you had ten out, you add two new songs and you have a record.

He also wanted to do a children's album. Because he loved to write these, you know, beautiful, innocent songs for children. He wanted to do a classical album, because he had a lot of melodies that he didn't want to write words to.

MORGAN: How good was Michael Jackson, as an entertainer?

SMITH: The best.

MORGAN: Let's talk voice, first of all, his voice. How good a singer was he?

PRINCE: Amazing. I mean, he could go from a ballad, a soft song, to -- he had one of the best rock voices. I mean, I would compare it to, you know, somebody like in -- not like Led Zeppelin, but I mean, he could sing rock 'n' roll like you wouldn't believe, you know. I always wanted to like get him on some really hard rock stuff.

MORGAN: And dance-wise, mesmerize?

SMITH: Top. Just top of the line, you know. MORGAN: Have you ever seen a better dancer?

SMITH: A better natural dancer? Not in my life so far ever. I mean, I was trained ballet dancer and we would share, he would teach me, because his stuff was always so strange to me, but once we started sharing, I shared ballet moves or technical things, and he would share his stuff. And that's where our bond came from, just a sharing of dance and a love of dance.

MORGAN: How do you think, finally, Michael would like to be remembered?

SMITH: I think he would like to be remembered as someone that was always, you know, making sure that what he delivered to his fans and to his audience was original. It was innovative. And he didn't mind if people copy it, but he would always wanted to be the one that did it first.

MORGAN: Michael, you were going to say?

PRINCE: I was going to agree with that and say that anything he wanted to do, he wanted it to be the best. He wanted himself to be the best, every dancer behind him, every musician, down to the lighting, down to whoever was running what piece of equipment, they had to be the best.

SMITH: Cameras. Everything had choreography. I love it when he use that word. The cameras have choreography. The light have choreography. And that's kind of stuff he taught me.

MORGAN: That's what he was. He was remarkable. I mean, to me, he achieved that. He was the best. The best entertainer I ever saw.

PRINCE: He really was.

MORGAN: Lavelle, Michael, thank you both very much. A pleasure meeting you.

SMITH: It has been my pleasure.

PRINCE: My pleasure.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

MORGAN: Tomorrow, I'll talk to Condoleezza Rice for a live, no- holds-barred interview. She was the ultimate Bush White House insider. So I will ask her why she says former Vice President Dick Cheney attacked her integrity. And why she threatened to resign after 9/11. Condoleezza Rice live tomorrow night.

That's all for us tonight.

"AC 360" starts right now.

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EXCLUSIVE EXCERPT From Carrie Fisher's New Book 'Shockaholic': Michael Jackson's Last Christmas

Auszug aus C. Fischers neuem Buch "Shokaholic", Michael Jacksons letztes Weihnachten

Michaels Ruhm verwandelte viele Leute in eifrige, gierige "Starjäger" die nur etwas von ihm wollten, was jenseits von allem war, was von einem "normalen" Menaschen zu geben erwartet würde. Sie waren nur da, um eine Anekdote zu bekommen. Das ist, was ich den "Glanz" nenne. Sie wollten sich daran reiben, und indem sie das taten, wuchs ihr eigener Wert. Aber ich möchte einen Grund benennen, warum Michael die Gesellschaft von Kindern bevorzugt hat - so wie ich hörte - vor der von Erwachsenen.

Kinder in einem gewissen Alter sind zu jung, um das Phänomen von Ruhm zu verstehen, und es ist sicher leichter ihnen zu vertrauen und mit ihnen zusammen zu sein, wie mit einer bestimmten Sorte Erwachsener, die, wie ich vorher schon dagte, sehr oft die Tendez zeigen sich völlig daneben zu benehmen, wenn sie mit jemand so berühmten wie Michael zusammen sind. Kinder verhalten sich wohl viel seltener derartig, denn sie wissen garnicht genau, was "berühmt" bedeutet. Für sie sind Zeichentrick Figuren berühmt, oder Muppets, oder Barney. Es ist für Kinder eine sehr abstrakte Sache.

An Michaels letztem Weihnachten, 2008, ging ich zu seinem Haus, was nur ein wenig weiter unten am Hügel von meinem ist, ein paar Blocks weiter. Er ermöglichte seinen Kindern die Kindheit, die er nie hatte. Eine Kindheit abseits von Celebrity, mit Menschen, die sie nicht als "Sache" behandelten. Denn normalerweise war für Michael das Leben das eines ein Tiers in einem Zoo. Wie eine gefährdete Art, die für immer hinter Gitterstäben lebte. Ich konnte in diesen Käfig mit Michael, ohne auszuflippen, und es gab nicht viele Menschen, die wussten wie, oder die sich auch nur vorstellen konnten, dass sie dazu überhaupt jemals Gelegenheit haben könnten, dieses mit ihm zu tun. Aber ich hatte diese Gelegenheit.

Ich besuchte Michael für Stunden in diesem Zoo. Wir machten Fotos, assen Cookies und schmückten den Baum. Und dann fragte Michael mich, ob ich für seine Kinder die Star Wars Rede halten könnte. Natürlich konnte ich. Es musste mich doch tatsächlich jemand daran erinnern, was für ein großer Star Wars Fan Michal war.

Während ich dort war, auch wenn wir die Situation garnicht so erlebten, machten wir Bilder davon. Arnie machte Photos von mir und Michael und den Kids, ich machte Photos von Arnie und seinen Feunden und der Familie Michaels. Mein Lieblingsfoto ist eines, auf dem Michael mein Buch "Wishful Drinking" (?) liest.

Ich werde diese Weihnachtskonstellation immer in guter Erinnerung behalten. Rückblickend war es so, als ob Michael garnicht wußte, wie er sich verhalten solle, in einer Situation, die nicht von einer Kamera aufgezeichnet wurde. Die Sache ist die, dass er es einfach so gewohnt war, dokumentiert zu werden. Aber der Grund, es diesesmal zu dokumentieren, waren Arnies Freunde, die Bilder von ihrem Treffen mit Michael haben wollten, damit sie diesen "Glanz" herumtragen konnten. Diese Begegnug lies sie abheben. Es wurde zu : "Oh, ich hatte ein Weihnachtsessen mit Michael Jackson. Was hast du so gemacht?" Trotzdem, wir hingen alle freizeitsmässig herum und hatten Spass, und es war auch Spass. Wir machten Fotos, benahmen uns kindisch (das war es wohl). An einem Punkt sagte Michael "OK, ich lass euch Fotos von meinen Kindern machen, denn ich weiß, ihr werdet diese Bilder nicht herum zeigen, denn ich will nicht, dass jeder meine Kinder sieht."
Er wollte, dass seine Kinder so wenig wie möglich aufgenommen wurden. Die Afrikaner glauben, dass du jedesmal ein Stück deiner Seele verlierst, wenn ein Photo gemacht wird, danach hätte Michael schon lange Zeit keine Photos mehr machen lassen. Aber er versuchte, die Dinge so zu gestalten, dass seine Kinder ihre (Seele) behalten konnten. Seine Kinder sind sehr süße, gute Kinder. Und das ist, weil ich denke, dass Michael - was auch immer er sonst war oder nicht - ein wirklich guter Vater war. Seine Kinder sind nett, sehr höflich, ausgeglichen und im Grunde völlig unberührte/unverdorbene Kinder. Und das kommt nicht von einer Nanny. Das kann man nicht "faken". Es kommt von den Eltern. Und die Eltern waren Michael.

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Francis Ford Coppola — who directed Captain EO, a 3-D fantasy film starring Michael Jackson that was shown at Disney theme parks — issued this statement to EW.com about the pop star: "I knew him slightly, mainly during the time I worked on Captain Eo. Every Friday, I'd buy him a present — something small and fun — and he'd be very excited about what it was. He was very sweet, but also very deliberate. He loved to learn and during rehearsal he had fun learning how to properly salute and do an about face. He got a kick out of being military. He reminded me of a kid — innocent, eager and joyful."