Neues Buch über Michael von Jermaine Jackson (Herbst 2011)

[geli2709]

Interview mit Jermaine auf BBC:
(ab 2.22 min.)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0140z49/Steve_Wright_in_the_Afternoon_Chris_Tarrant_Sits_In/

[Lena]

Buchzusammenfassung Ivy, MJJC

Chapter 19 - Unbreakable

2001 - Invincible release. 30th anniversary concert. CBS Executives insisted on a Jacksons reunion as a part of the deal. Randy and Jermaine having problems with David Gest for charging $2,500 for a top-tier ticket and no hint of Motown on the show. So they release statement about the prices and say they won't perform. Later back down because it was important to create a special night for Michael. Jermaine says they didn't see much of Michael - other than the performance and rehearsal.

9/11. Michael overslept because he went to bed late and didn't go to his appointment at Twin Towers. Marlon was in air but okay. Janet tried to send tour busses but they weren't allowed to Manhattan. Randy and Jermaine stop a bus on the street and put everyone in and drive to California. Michael makes his own getaway plan. "what more can I give?" song. Sony doesn't release it. Michael's relationship with Mottola is turning bad slowly.

Family meeting at Hayvenhurst. after the 30th anniversary in NY, family thinks Michael is again having problems with prescription drug dependency. Early 2002 Intervention at Neverland - Jermaine was out of town. Katherine, Jackie, Tito, Randy, Janet, Rebbie and La Toya with a doctor go to Neverland. Guards don't let them in, one brother jump the gate. Tito asks Michael if something was wrong.

"Michael was reassuring and relaxed. He said everyone had got it wrong. He was fine; there was nothing wrong with him, he insisted. Even the doctor had to agree. So there was actually no intervention and everyone departed happier if not 100 percent reassured."

Jermaine says later Michael admit in lawsuits that his judgement could have been impaired due to painkillers. So "no doubt concealment was going on". Reason for the second dependency - bridge fall in 1999.

Jermaine is also angry that the press portrayed this "non-intervention" as an "intervention".

Sony: Relationships are getting worse and Michael would seek "divorce from Mottola". Michael finds out his masters aren't reverting to him until 2009/2010 (he thought 2000) and the lawyer who advised him also advised Sony.Michael wants to get out of his contract early. Conditions : one more album (Invincible), one greatest hits (number ones) and a box set. So as Michael was leaving with his share in the catalog, they wanted Michael to fail so that they can control the catalog. Invincible. Sony doing the minimum required contractually.

"But Michael felt it went deeper than that with Sony, especially after he’d heard from fans who couldn’t find the album in certain stores. He based that on information received in a phone call from someone he trusted. He felt strongly that everything was designed to back him into a financial corner: the less successful his albums, the less royalty income. The less he earned, the more reliant he’d be on his share of the Sony-ATV catalogue which he’d already borrowed against to the tune of $200 million from Bank of America . . . guaranteed by Sony. And the more debt he had, the stronger the chance he’d be forced to sell his interest in the catalogue. At least, that was Michael’s thinking."

Sony protests. Jermaine says Invincible not maxing sales because Michael didn't tour isn't true. He says that a worldwide and US tour was planned to start early spring 2002 but Michael cancelled it after 9/11. This causes an argument between Mottola and Michael, Michael angry that they are not promoting his album, Mottola angry that Michael cancelled the tour. Jermaine explains Michael's reason not to tour that he could be a hit for terrorist attacks and Michael didn't want to risk his staff and fans. Jermaine says if 9/11 didn't happen Michael would be touring 2002 spring to 2004

"Since 2009, there has been a lot of debate and misunderstanding about my brother’s appetite for the road because he made no secret of the fact that he didn’t like touring. It induced anxiety, insomnia and dehydration, and left him feeling miserable. His insomnia was the curse of live shows that left him filled with adrenaline. Other artists may empathize with this, but Michael suffered chronically. That was why, on most tours, he took a qualified anaesthetist with him. This choice had nothing to do with a prescription-drug dependency, and everything to do with the desperate need to sleep when on the road; he needed to be knocked out in order to rest. But with a specialist alongside him—and his intake closely monitored. Michael also trusted that his physicians would monitor him at all times while he was under. While this may seem unorthodox, it was his coping mechanism when touring—a quick fix to a long-term problem that illustrated the downside to touring."

Michael said "no more touring" since 1981 but still toured because he loved the stage. He could also say I'm not touring to one person and turn and say I'm touring to another person.

Debbie and Michael's seperation. Jermaine knows nothing but doesn't think there was any heartbreak.

"But Michael wanted more children so “Blanket” came along as a result of artificial insemination with an anonymous surrogate mother. Nobody knows who she is, not even the family.".

Blanket and hotel incident.

"Michael was probably the most forgetful person I knew—because, as an artist, he was preoccupied with creativity. One Family Day at Hayvenhurst, Prince and Paris were there with “Blanket” who was still in diapers, tucked up in a carrier-cradle. At the end of a happy afternoon, Michael’s chauffeur loaded everything into the trunk and the children got in the car. We were all on the steps and Michael was all smiles, with his arm waving out the window as they drove away. We knew what he had forgotten even if he didn’t. How long would it be before he realized? We waited and waited. About five minutes later, we saw the nose of the car turn back into the driveway. The car door flew open and Michael jumped out, looking all sheepish and with his hand to his mouth, dashed out, rushed by us and hurried back inside. “Oh, I forgot Blanket!”"

Arvizos. Bashir interview. Jermaine watching the interview on TV (he had no idea of what's going on before the interview). Getting angry as he sees the edit to portray Michael in a bad light. The Michael Jackson Interview: The Footage You Were Not Meant To See. Bashir pay tribute to Michael after his death saying "“There was a small part . . . which contained a controversy, but the truth is that he was never convicted of any crime, I never saw any wrong-doing myself and while his lifestyle may have been a little unorthodox, I don’t believe it was criminal.” Too little too late.


Chapter 20 - 14 White Doves

Neverland raid. Michael trashing his hotel room in Las Vegas when hearing the news. Michael never stayed in the main house again, stayed in the "Elizabeth Taylor" guest house. Flying back to LA, surrendering, hand-cuffs.

"Michael returned to Vegas and started to talk. It was less an opening up and more of an unloading of concern about a group which I’ll call “The Men’s Club of Beverly Hills”—a group of well-connected power brokers from the music industry who, he said, were behind everything and “trying to bring me down” and he added: “They don’t want me around . . . They want me in jail . . . They want to finish me.”"

"it was the sincerity of his tone that got me thinking because—whether true or not—we as a family could see the financial rationale in where he was pointing us: that if he went to prison, what control would he have over the catalogue as a convicted criminal? And with countless lawsuits against him lining up like planes from certain business dealings, he’d likely lose them all from prison. This outcome would have ultimately led to big losses and him defaulting on his bank loan—and his share of the catalogue would revert to Sony."

DCFS finds nothing. Sneddon still continues. Feb 2003 Gavin saying nothing happened. June 2003 Gavin saying he was molested after Feb 2003 interview.

Michael tells Jermaine he doesn't feel secure. NOI as security. Randy working as Michael's right hand man. Hiring Tom Mesereau. T-Mez giving them assurance. Jordie refusing to testify and not talking to his parents for 11 years for making him lie. Trial. Family support. Testimony. Lies. T-Mez proving his points.

Trial affecting Michael's finances. Sony/ATV loan 272M, lost 100M due to not touring for Invincible. $23M loan on Neverland. $1M a month to run Neverland. Catalogue bringing $25M a year. Jermaine goes to Bahrain to do a deal to ease Michael's financial situation. Prince Abdullah, not only music but theme parks,hotels, movies etc as well. Two Seas contact Prince Abdullah, Jermaine and Michael 33.3 share each.

Back to trial. Michael going to restroom during testimony. Waiting for verdicts. Going to court to hear the verdicts. Rebbie reading the Bible all the way to the courthouse. Not enough seats. Jermaine and Janet in a room waiting. they can't see or hear the courtroom. They hear a cheer from outside. They find a window to look outside and see a woman releasing white doves. They go to meet rest of the family.

"Michael wasn’t smiling, like everyone else: he looked stunned, and we just kept walking. There was no time for hugs. We could do all that back at Neverland."

to be continued

2 more chapters to go.. the next chapter jumps to 2008 (from mid 2005)

Chapter 21 - The Comeback King

Fall 2008. Michael is happy and healthy. Dancing and recording. Wheelchair photo - was an act. Michael trying to make everyone think he wasn't ready or capable for comeback.

"Because no comeback is truly a comeback until the odds seem impossible."

"Michael got stronger and stronger, week by week, and he shed weight when I didn’t think he had any more to lose. Again, some people point to this “thinness” as if it were a disturbing sign, but he had shrunk ever since the trial and his fitness regime made him skinnier. It was also normal—after each tour he ever did, he’d lose three inches off his waist. Michael was simply shedding weight because of those daily four hours of dance."

"In late 2008, he was so fit that, further down the line—eight weeks before he died—when he bumped into a friend in a doctor’s office, he lifted his shirt and said, “Have you seen my six-pack?”"

Michael's plans: New house in Vegas as a new neverland, his kids see him perform. make money from tour to pay his debts. Performing in China after TII. Do Superbowl. 2 tours of "back by popular demand" concerts till 2014. TII was the beginning not the end. 5 year plan.

Still worried if the tickets would not sell, tested the waters with 10 in Europe. Wasn't sure about USA reaction to him.

Flashback to after trial and time in Bahrain: Although Jermaine was instrumental in the deal with the Prince, he's cut off and it becomes a deal between only Michael and Prince Abdullah. Prince pays for Michael's lifestyle in Bahrain. Michael in good faith believed these to be gifts and he didn't realize it was part of his contract. Michael thought he was to do one album but the contract was for music,musicals,movies, books etc. So as he doesn't want to be owned by anyone he leaves. Prince sues Michael. Jermaine can't believe Michael signed a contract without reading.

A lot of lawsuit against Michael worth $100M. Sony loan now $300M. Sony has the option to buy his 25%. Good news Michael buys 5% share from Branca. Jermaine thinks "once great business relationship" between Branca and Michael floundered as Branca wasn't exclusively on Michael's side (conflict of interest idea). Struggling to pay Neverland's costs, salaries, animal costs. Ranch shut down in 2006.

Summer 2006 Michael received a set of documents that showed that some individuals were deliberately getting people to sue Michael to force him into involuntary bankruptcy. Jermaine never saw the documents. don't know what happened to them.

Michael trusted a less people. There was one person he thought as a friend and advised him unofficially since 2001. Michael was often a guest at his house. One sleepless night during his war with Mottola , Michael overhears this person on the telephone with Mottola saying not favorable things.

Michael wanted to play "Willy Wonka" but the role went to Johnny Deep. 2007 "Crystal City" - Neverland theme park and Jackson Academy of performing arts in Middle East. 4 meetings but they didn't have the money to fund it.

2007 when in Africa in a business meeting trying to find a backer for the project, a friend mentions Tohme Tohme as a guy "who knows a lot of people". March 2008 Jermaine and Halima goes to meet Tohme. Not charming but gracious. Jermaine discusses Crystal City to Tohme without mentioning Michael. 4 meetings with Tohme. Tohme says he'll try to come up with oil-rich investors to fund $6billion and report back.

Neverland foreclosure news. Jermaine worries that Michael would need to sell his catalog to save Neverland. He decided to call Tohme. Halima says "you hardly know the man". April 2008 Jermaine meets with Tohme , tells him the situation and asks if he knows anyone that can help. Tohme says Tom Barrack / Colony Capital would help and "he'll make sure of it". Jermaine goes to Las Vegas to talk to Michael. Security doesn't let Jermaine in. He goes to a hotel and comes back 3 times, still they don't let him in. He calls Katherine who calls Grace who lets Jermaine in. Jermaine complains about the security not letting him in. Michael tells him he'll make changes soon. Jermaine tells Michael about Tom Barrack.

"I know that my sister La Toya has said she wished she could have “protected” him from the likes of Tohme-Tohme, but had she known the history and the dire reality of the situation, I doubt she’d have held such an opinion."

Jermaine takes Tohme to meet Michael. Michael talks with Barrack on the phone. Meeting with all of them is set. Shortly before foreclosure Barrack pays $23M and gets 50% ownership at Neverland. Barrack and Tohme are heroes. Tohme becomes Michael's manager. Tohme looks over Michael's finances. Cash poor, asset rich. a lot of expenses.

2008 summer Michael shows Jermaine the photos of the house he wants to buy in Vegas that belonged to Prince Jefri of Brunei. He saw the house in 2007, decided to buy it in 2008 and was in negotiations in 2009 to make a $15M down payment for it funded by his TII contract.

Michael and Barrack get along very well. Barrack wants to open a thriller tower in his Hilton hotel. Michael asks him if he wants to partner with him on Sony/ATV catalog. Jermaine doesn't want to leave Michael vulnerable to Barrack and Tohme so he tries to recruit lawyer Joel Katz and Michael agrees. Tohme turns against Jermaine as he brings in a lawyer. Neverland auction. Michael approved it thinking only furniture in storage will be sold. He did not want Neverland would be dismantled and his personal possesions be sold. Michael soon fires Tohme.

Jermaine says before his firing even Tohme turned into a gatekeeper not allowing him to see Michael.

“I don’t understand why you keep coming around. Your brother does not want to see you. If someone does not want to see you, I wouldn’t keep humiliating myself and showing up . . .”

March/ April 2008 dinner with Barrack is when TII idea started. TII is one way to earn big money or he would have need to work at McDonald's as he told Karen Faye. Jermaine says Michael long dreamed a residency tour - in Paris. Tohme reaches out to AEG and Live Nation. Jermaine knows AEG because he talked to them in 2004 about a Broadway musical about Jacksons life story. 2008 Barrack seals the deal with Phil Anschutz of AEG for TII that came with a minimal payment of $36.5M with an upside potential of $300M. 3 movies were a part of it as well as the $15M Vegas home. Also an agreement to do spot concerts as well as 2 tours. One of the tours would be a Jackson 5 reunion tour because Katherine had told Michael that before she died she wanted to see her sons tour together one last time. One more solo tour as final curtain call. He said he would retire from music at when he was 55 years old and then only focus on Hollywood for movies.

TII announcement. Michael being late, not staying long etc. Jermaine says earlier that day Michael learned that guitar player David Williams died.

May 14, 2009 Family day. Katherine and Joe's 60th anniversary surprise. Michael is 4 weeks into TII rehearsals.

"When I spoke with my brother at the Indian restaurant, there was no question that he was fit, healthy and focused. He was skinny, but only in an athletic sense, and the photos that still stand on an end table in my living room confirm it. More importantly, he was genuinely excited about “doing something special for the fans” and there was talk of special guest appearances by the likes of Slash and Alicia Keys. At least, that was an idea he had been toying with."

"The only thing he complained about was that he’d signed up to do “10 shows only” as advertised but somewhere along the line, due to the demand tickets, AEG had added an extra 40 dates. Even they sold out within five hours on-line. Michael said no one had checked with him first, but at no point did he give me the impression that the schedule was too punishing or beyond him, because it wasn’t. Not for a man in his condition."

"He always had breakfast and dinner with his kids, and while they went to bed at around 8 pm, he soon followed around nine. He had been sleeping soundly (his insomnia was only ever tour induced) and he seemed the most centered and content I had seen him in years."
"When it was time for him to leave, everyone hugged and said their goodbyes. “You’re all coming to London, right?” Michael asked us. “Yeah! We’ll be there!” I said, as we all did. “Okay, everyone. See you in London!”"

to be continued.

one more chapter left. It's about Michael's death, what happened during TII rehearsals, funeral.

(note: I looked over Jermaine is saying that Michael was down to 136lbs from 150-155lbs)

[Christine3110]

Chapter 22 - Gone too soon

June 25 Halima receives a call from Larry King asking them if they know anything about Michael's condition. Jermaine calls Katherine as he hears she's leaving the house for hospital, Halima and Jermaine drives to the hospital as well. Joel Katz calls Jermaine on the way and says that it's bad. Janet calls Jermaine panicked. Katherine calls Jermaine and says that Michael is dead. Jermaine arrives to the hospital, finds Katherine alone in a room. sees Latoya and Randy. Randy is saying "someone did this". Jermaine goes to see Michael's body. Can't believe how skeletal he was, like half the size he was a month ago. He caresses Michael's hand, kisses his forehead. MJ's kids come with a nurse and Jermaine says what they said and did should remain private between them and their father.

Jermaine sees Randy Phillips, Dileo and Tohme. Someone walks up to Jermaine and wants him to read the statement. Attorneys and medical staff feels it's appropriate if the statement comes from family. Reads the statement. Goes back to where Katherine was. Murray comes in and offers his condolences.

Jermaine later learns that Murray has been in Michael's life long before TII.

"He was apparently first called out in Vegas to treat Paris for something, and Michael retained him soon afterward. At Michael’s request, he was hired by AEG for the tour. I don’t know what, if any, checks they did in regard to his suitability, but by having him on their payroll, they were, in my opinion, responsible for his duty of care to their artist. Not to mention the doctor’s own responsibilities under the Hippocratic Oath."

Carolwood Katherine, Janet and Latoya goes. "In fact, La Toya’s boyfriend Jeffre Phillips stayed at the house overnight by himself for two weeks, presumably as a presence to guard against vultures."

"The autopsy report ruled that Michael had had a healthy heart and had died from “acute Propofol intoxication” with no other factor related to the immediate cause of death. The media would go on to falsely portray him as a “junkie,” trying to make the link with prescription pill usage but that, and drugs like Demerol, was not the reason why his heart stopped. What was clear is that the anesthetic Propofol was everywhere in his system. I didn’t even know what “Propofol” was but I’ve since learned that it is not a recreational drug and it was no prescription medicine. Propofol is what people are given intravenously as an anesthetic before major surgery, or doctors use it for sedation. This, I would find out, is what Michael relied on to be knocked out when desperate for sleep, but it should be given only by a trained anesthesiologist and its intake should be carefully monitored with the appropriate medical equipment in place. Michael was usually beset by sleeping problems only on tour so it was, to the best of my knowledge, a departure for him to be using this kind of sleep-inducer during rehearsals. It’s also worth noting that the last time Michael would have needed something like Propofol would have been his last tour, “HIStory,” in 1996. It didn’t surprise me that his insomnia was returning in the run-up to his London dates because of the unimaginable pressure, most of it self-imposed. He was his own biggest competition in the relentless drive to be perfect within the great comeback he’d envisioned."

The below is what Jermaine discovered:
-Michael went from 150-155 to 136 lbs.
- TII is a clever edit.
- start of june michael focused and business like. He wasn't "on fire" but he always held back so this was normal.
- tour opening pushing had nothing to do with health. Michael wanted to rehearse at O2 and not at wembley.
- insomnia starting
- michael told people that he would have a word and change / arrange the workload.
- some people working on TII were chosen over the people Michael worked with / wanted to work with and Michael wasn't happy with it but he said he will make changes when we went to UK.
- Michael's strategy was to do 10 concerts and renegotiate the 40 concerts using the media and public interest. Jermaine says this is the reason why Michael seemed laid back , little input to discussing the concerts. He was waiting for the right time to take over the control.
- Michael not happy with AEG bringing in Dileo and Branca. Jermaine assumes AEG needed handling of Michael and they brought it people that knew Michael.
- Dileo after he comes , keeps people informed on a need to know basis. Protective on Frank's mind but other people around are unease as they think Michael is under control of someone.
- Mid June Michael's health detoriating. He's missing rehearsals or coming in late. His security increased from 2 people to 10 people.
- June 17 he's like a ghost.
- He's making mistakes in dance routines. repeating sentences or words like he has OCD. struggles to finish songs, need teleprompter for lyrics. need help up and down the ramps/stairs.
- inner circle gets worried. "In fairness to AEG, maybe its people didn’t observe the same signs as those with a closer proximity? But, even if that was the case, people would still sound the alarm bells to those in authority to actually do something to help."
- Paris : Daddy was always cold. Karen Faye realized this as well. Michael made a phonecall to a nurse about one half of his body being cold and other half being hot.
- patience running out with michael's absense and being late. Jermaine thinks AEG thought it was due to drug dependency.
- Michael being treated badly, belittling.
- thinner he becomes he colder he gets. 3 layers of clothing while others are baking. june 19 michael was like block of ice to the touch.
- someone calls one of Michael's old doctors and tells the symptoms "“toxic poisoning of the brain” and take him to hospital. AEG doesn't know this call, still Michael chose not to go to hospital.
- murray isn't giving any sense of emergency. after michael sent home on june 19, murray sends a fax to AEG saying that Michael needs 2 days of rest.
- michael acting brave and do not want anyone to think something is wrong.
- closest to Michael : Karen , Bush and Thompson frantic with worry asking for a person with authority to intervene.
- final week. Michael is being taken out of rehearsal space with his arms around bodyguards shoulders - like he collapsed or weak to stand.
- no one called Jacksons. and Jermaine says the responsibility for it was at AEG.
- Jermaine says although the investigation focused on the events on June 25, something was wrong long before.
- Ortega seemed to be the only one that cared. sending him to rest, feeding him, rubbing his feet.
- June 18 , 20 meetings. Riot act. AEG should have cancelled the concerts but they didn't. Michael if didn't do the concerts would lose his catalog.
- Follower fans emailing Karen.
- Michael Bearden asking the staff to pray for Michael
- Last 2 days everthing changes. Michael is upbeat and sharp. other than weight loss, there was no sign of anything being wrong in those 2 days.
- Michael was scheduled to work on his vocals the following days.
- Leaves around 12:30, was supposed to make a diversion and visit Tohme to sign the papers for the new Las Vegas home. Jermaine doesn't know if Michael made a stop at Tohme's or went straight home.
- Murray , trying to sleep. Murray on the phone. Murray's girlfriend hearing a commotion. Security footage is only limited to 4 minutes, rest is erased. why?
- Hope the justice doesn't fail Michael.

Epilogue - Smile

Memorial. Ambitious plans such as Washington Monument. Katherine wanting something private. they find the middle ground. private JW viewing before the public memorial. AEG offer Staples Center. They accept without knowing what went on at rehearsals. Family plan it at Theather at Hayvenhurst. One moment they hug each other, Joe says stop you're going to make me cry. Jermaine wants Michael to be burried at Neverland in a area close to train station. Katherine rejects it as Michael said he never wanted to go back there. Jermaine still thinks Neverland is where Michael should be. Kingdom Hall private service ended with Paris's request of listening to Michael sing "Gone to soon". Staples center. How the brothers were pallbearers. Before TII concerts Michael had planned to take his children to Switzerland to visit Chaplin house. Jacksons decided that none of them would perform but Jermaine wants to sing "Smile", Katherine says do it. Jermaine is good at rehearsal, had a hard time during performance. Private burial. Katherine needed to feel close to Michael her own way so she went back to Gary to the old house and stayed there for a month. As people started to stop by Gary house they got it fixed and painted. January 2011 Jermaine and Halima goes to Senegal. Non English speaking village. they know Michael. Jermaine starts writing the book 2 weeks after that so that the world can understand who Michael is, his legacy and his life.

The End




The media would go on to falsely portray him as a “junkie,”

Ich glaub er hat nicht die IVs seiner Schwestern u. deren Aussagen zu diesem Thema registriert.

[Lena]

Nach den Kapitelzusammenfassungen von Ivy, MJJC, hier auch noch eine pers. Review von ihr zum Buch auch mit Vergleich zu Latoya`s Buch:

Some asked me to write my overall review about the book. I'm going to make it as detailed as possible and comparing to other books - especially Latoya's book.

- Literary wise Jermaine's book is better - well most probably because he has a ghost writer.

- Also Jermaine's book is a lot better organized - Latoya's kept jumping back and forth in time, Jermaine's follow chronological order.

- The book is not about Jermaine - unlike Latoya's which was a mixture of her life and Michael. So if you are Jermaine fan and want to read / learn about Jermaine this is not the book. Other than Jermaine's stay with Motown there's not much about Jermaine personally. It's a book about Michael.

- Jermaine does a wonderful job of defending Michael against molestation claims and "weird / *****" stories. For a non fan / general public it could change some opinions and serve a purpose.

- In regards to addiction (not addiction but dependency) and plastic surgery (he had a reason but went overboard / body dysmorphic) the book was okay. I didn't see them to be that defending personally and it can be seen as either way.

- As a fan for 25 years and read almost anything and everything about Michael, Jermaine's book only had the new information of "Word to the Badd", "How did Tohme came into MJ's life", supposed "5 year plan of Michael". I was also interested in reading Jermaine's take on Michael's death (the last chapter).

- The rest although had some new tidbits (such as Michael forgetting Blanket) was all things that I heard / read before. Especially the beginning chapters of the book seems like the book version of "The Jacksons : An American Dream" movie. I guess it's not surprising as Jermaine and Margaret was behind that also.

- I think that Jermaine was very close with Michael in the beginning (1958 to 1975) and had a close relationship till the end of Victory tour (1976 and 1984).

- After reading both Jermaine's and Latoya's book, I personally think no Jackson (perhaps except Katherine) had close relationship with Michael after 1985.

- Both books blames other people around Michael or Michael's busy schedule for the lack of communication. However I personally don't believe it because
----- People around Michael change but not allowing family doesn't.
----- At times Jacksons can't reach to Michael directly , other people have no problems reaching him directly (such as when Jermaine can only leave messages to MJJProductions offices and hope Michael to call, Princess Diana is making direct phonecalls to Michael).
----- Similarly while Michael supposed to be busy with recording and touring and can't attend Family days, Michael has no time issues for hanging around with his surrogate families.
As a result to me it seems this distance from Jacksons is something that Michael wanted.

- The distance / lack of communication in the later years also make the book turn into a lot more 3rd party stories.

- There are no "evil" people in this book. Everyone is either really good (such as Karen Faye, Lisa Marie, Nanny Grace and even Debbie Rowe) or at worst they are "human" with good and bad sides (such as Tohme is being a hero for saving the Neverland but having personality issues and Auction fiasco or Branca being good for getting the Catalog but then having conflict of interest with Sony etc).

- Similarly the book also has a middle of the road and even playing to two different sides feel to it. I don't know if this is Jermaine's personality (harmonious person) or a tactic to get more sales. For example
---- Not an addict but had dependency issue at times
---- inner circle realized what was wrong but in all fairness AEG wasn't inner circle
---- AEG should have stopped the production but Murray told them there was nothing to worry
---- Dileo seems like controlling but it's being protective
---- Sony not promoting Invincible common practice for a artists that's leaving but they also stop distribution
---- Even at Michael's claims of people behind his catalog is portrayed as "don't know whether it's true or not but made sense"
This is hugely different from Latoya's approach which was loud and blaming people and companies for stuff and even portrayal of evil.

- If you hoped to get a better understanding of what happened behind the scenes or what is "the truth" in regards to Michael's death, unfortunately the book doesn't give any insight in regards to that. Jacksons are on the outside as we all are and as dependent as we are on to other people's versions. I personally didn't think that it included any real or different information that made me say "that's it". It's still a mystery with multiple versions.

- Different versions of events coming from different Jackson's also make it a lot more confusing. (such as Jermaine portraying Ortega as a person that cared, but Karen Faye / TINI blaming him, Katherine suing him and Randy not apologizing or taking back anything)

- Finally I will classify this book as "okay" and whether you'll be satisfied with it will depend on your expectations. Personally I do not see the money I spent on the book as a total loss (Latoya's book was totally valueless IMO) but at the same time -if- Cascio book has first hand experience and stories could be a better investment than Jermaine's book.

[Lena]

Roger Friedmann-Kommentar zum Buch:

Jermaine Jackson: In New Book Denies Father’s Abuse But Michael was “Terrified of Him”

09/17/11 9:41pm Roger Friedman

There’s not much fact in Jermaine Jackson‘s newest attempt to cash in on his late brother Michael. His book, “You Are Not Alone,” reads like a compendium of fictions and half-truths to anyone who’s reported anything about Michael Jackson over the last 20 years. It’s so far from reality that Jermaine defends his father while citing his abuse; still argues that Michael’s kids are his biologically; and basically excises the people closest to Michael like his personal assistant Evvy Tavasci and surrogate family, the Cascios.

This is largely because Michael didn’t have much to do with Jermaine after his 1991 recording, called “Word to the Badd.” Jermaine was jettisoned from Michael’s life. And yet, the older brother would continue to try and get back into Michael’s inner circle, playing on his vulnerabilities.

“You Are Not Alone” contains at least one anti-Semitic reference and is full of inaccuracies. It’s hard to believe, really, that a reputable publisher (Simon & Schuster) did no fact checking on “You Are Not Alone.” The anti-Semitic part is not a surprise. Jermaine is happy to go into details of his life as a Muslim, his following of Louis Farrakhan, and his introduction of the Nation of Islam into Michael’s life. Ironically, it’s NOI bodyguards who don’t let Jermaine in to see Michael in Las Vegas.

It’s Jermaine’s description of Joseph Jackson’s original business partner, Richard Aarons, that says it all. Jermaine writes of Aarons: “A short Jewish lawyer who always wore suits arrived on the scene.” There’s only other passing mention of the “short Jewish lawyer” in Jermaine’s book. But it was Aarons who partnered with Joseph Jackson, brought the Jackson 5 to Motown, and made the deals. For a long time, their company was called Jackson-Aarons. It was Aarons to whom many of the Jackson kids turned when their father was abusing them.

Jermaine does give credit, however, to their tutor, Rose Fine, also Jewish, also pointed out in case we didn’t get it.

None of this is terribly shocking. It was Michael who wrote and sang in “They Don’t Care About Us”: “Jew me. sue me…kick me, **** me…”

Otherwise., “You Are Not Alone” is quite a fanciful read. Jermaine basically absolves his father of all wrong doing, and says Michael misunderstood his “abuse.” It was just Joseph trying to keep the kids away from gangs. So he beat them. Jermaine dismisses all press reports of Joseph’s violence. But I can tell you that between Joseph’s own admissions and those of past employees–even Katherine Jackson on “Oprah”– none of what Jermaine says is true. This is sad.

Jermaine is wrong about so many things–about Michael’s manager Frank Dileo, and about how the “This Is It” concerts were originally conceived. He says that Michael’s manager in 2008, the non doctor Tohme Tohme, came up with the idea. In fact, it was Randy Phillips of AEG Live, in 2007, who first told me he’d approached Michael to play a series of dates at London’s O2 Arena. And it was not AEG that brought in Dileo and John Branca during the 2009 rehearsals. Michael happily brought Frank Dileo back, and Dileo brought back Branca. If anyone was unhappy, it was Jermaine–he was cut out again.

What Jermaine does reveal: that he and his wife Halima (there’s no mention of Jermaine’s second wife, Alejandra, mother of two of his children, and mother of two children with brother Randy–that whole episode of spousal sharing is absent) found Tohme and introduced him to Michael in 2008. In an interview I did with Tohme in 2009, the faux doctor made it seem like he’d been friends with Michael and the Jacksons for years. In fact Jermaine says he and Halima heard about him from mutual friends in Gabon, Africa in 2008. Later Jermaine is shocked when Tohme turns against him and tries to auction off all the possessions from Neverland without authority.

But you can only feel sorry for Jermaine Jackson. He rationalizes his father’s abuse while detailing beatings and violence, including the use of “switches.” He confirms that “over time, Randy and Janet got to know what the belt felt like, mainly for disobedience.” Jermaine admits “There is no denying that Michael was terrified of our father.” But in the same breath, Jermaine writes: “If he [Joseph] had truly abused us, we wouldn’t still be speaking to him…” I would counter that Michael was not speaking to his father at the time of his death, and would be mortified to see how Joseph Jackson has since behaved.

That Jermaine lives in denial is most evident when he writes about his own relationship with Michael.. Jermaine wrote and recorded a song called “Word to the Badd” in the 90s as a rebuke to Michael’s scandal-ridden life style. Now he blames LA Reid and Kenny “Babyface” Edmonds for allowing out a “leaked” version that Jermaine never intended. The result was a sit down with Michael and their parents. Of course, in Jermaine’s version, Michael forgives him and the brothers become closer. And so “You Are Not Alone” becomes a fantasy.

[Christine3110]

lol...da hats einer auf den Punkt gebracht!

[TrueCrypt]

Habe ich das erste Kapitel überlesen?? Oder fehlt dieses etwa, mmmmmh fiiiiiiiinde es nicht!!
Liefere es mal nach und es kommt mir vor, als ob Jermaine es so manches mal aus dem Moonwalk hat....

http://www.legendarymichaeljackson.nl/?p=6026

Excerpt from Jermaine’s book about Michael: ‘You Are Not Alone’
According to Jermaine’s PR “You Are Not Alone – Michael: Through a Brother’s Eyes, is*the most authoritative account from inside the Jackson music dynasty illuminating the private man, the son, the father, and the brother. In this story of brotherhood, Jermaine writes a faithful and loving portrait, giving fans a close look at the complex heart, mind, and soul of the King of Pop. It is a frank but sophisticated examination of the human, not the legend, with revealing insights and no subject off limits. It is written as a full and final understanding of who he was, why he was, and what shaped Michael Jackson.”

LMJ offers you the first book excerpt:

CHAPTER ONE

Eternal Child

Michael was standing beside me —I was about 8, he was barely 4—with his elbows on the sill and his chin resting in his hands. We were looking into the dark from our bedroom window as the snow fell on Christmas Eve, leaving us both in awe. It was coming down so thick and fast that our neighborhood seemed beneath some heavenly pillow fight, each floating feather captured in the clear haze of one streetlight. The three homes opposite were bedecked in mostly multicolored bulbs, but one particular family, the Whites, had decorated their whole place with clear lights, complete with a Santa on the lawn and glowing-nosed reindeers. They had white lights trimming the roof, lining the pathway and festooned in the windows, blinking on and off, framing the fullest tree we had seen.

We observed all this from inside a home with no tree, no lights, no nothing. Our tiny house, on the corner of Jackson Street and 23rd Avenue, was the only one without decoration. We felt it was the only one in Gary, Indiana, but Mother assured us that, no, there were other homes and other Jehovah’s Witnesses who did not celebrate Christmas, like Mrs. Macon’s family two streets up. But that knowledge did nothing to clear our confusion: we could see something that made us feel good, yet we were told it wasn’t good for us. Christmas wasn’t God’s will: it was commercialism. In the run-up to December 25 we felt as if we were witnessing an event to which we were not invited, and yet we still felt its forbidden spirit.

At our window, we viewed everything from a cold, gray world, looking into a shop where everything was alive, vibrant and sparkling with color; where children played in the street with their new toys, rode new bikes or pulled new sleds in the snow. We could only imagine what it was to know the joy we saw on their faces. Michael and I played our own game at that window: pick a snowflake under the streetlight, track its descent and see which one was the first to “stick.” We observed the flakes tumble, separated in the air, united on the ground, dissolved into one. That night we must have watched and counted dozens of them before we fell quiet.* Michael looked sad—and I can see myself now, looking down on him from an 8-year-old’s height, feeling that same sadness. Then he started to sing:




“Jingle bells, jingle bells, jingle all the way* Oh what fun it is to ride,* In a one horse open sleigh . . .”

It is my first memory of hearing his voice, an angelic sound. He sang softly so that Mother wouldn’t hear. I joined in and we started making harmony. We sang verses of “Silent Night” and “Little Drummer Boy.” Two boys carol-singing on the doorstep of our exclusion, songs we’d heard at school, not knowing that singing would be our profession.

As we sang, the grin on Michael’s face was pure joy because we had stolen a piece of magic. We were happy briefly. But then we stopped, because this temporary sensation only reminded us that we were pretending to participate and the next morning would be like any other. I’ve read many times that Michael did not like Christmas, based on our family’s lack of celebration. This was not true. It had not been true since that moment as a four-year-old when he said, staring at the Whites’ house: “When I’m older, I’ll have lights. Lots of lights. It will be Christmas every day.”

“Go faster! Go faster!” Michael shrieked, hitting an early high note. He was sitting in the front of a shopping cart— knees to chin—while Tito, Marlon and I were running and pushing it down 23rd Avenue, me with both hands on the handlebar, and my two brothers either side as the wheels wobbled and bounced off the road on a summer’s day. We built up speed and powered forward like a bobsled team. Except this, in our minds, was a train. We’d find two, sometimes three, shopping carts from the nearby Giants supermarket and couple them together. Giants was about three blocks away, located across the sports field at the back of our home, but its carts were often abandoned and strewn about the streets, so they were easy to commandeer. Michael was “the driver.”

He was crazy about Lionel toy trains—small but weighty model steam engines and locomotives, packaged in orange boxes. Whenever Mother took us shopping for clothes at the Salvation Army, he always darted upstairs to the toy section to see if anyone had donated a secondhand Lionel train set. So, in his imagination, our shopping carts became two or three railroad cars, and 23rd Avenue was the straight section of track. It was a train that went too fast to pick up other passengers, thundering along, as Michael provided the sound effects. We hit the brakes when 23rd Avenue ran into a dead end, about 50 yards from the back of our house.

If Michael wasn’t on the street playing trains, he was on the carpet in our shared bedroom with his prized Lionel engine. Our parents couldn’t afford to buy him a new one, or invest in an electric- train set, complete with full length track, station, and signal boxes. That is why the dream of owning a train set was in his head long before the dream of performing.

Speed. I’m convinced our excitement as kids was built on the thrill of speed. Whatever we did involved going faster, trying to outgun one another. Had our father known the extent of our thirst for speed, he would have banned it for sure: the potential for injury was always considered a grave risk to our career.

Once we grew bored of the shopping-cart trains, we built go-carts, constructed from boxes, stroller wheels and planks of wood from a nearby junkyard. Tito was the “engineer” of the brotherhood and he had the know-how in putting everything together. He was forever dismantling clocks and radios, and reassembling them on the kitchen table, or watching Joseph under the hood of his Buick parked at the side of the house, so he knew where our father’s tool box was. We hammered together three planks to form an I-shaped chassis and axle. We nailed the open cockpit—a square wooden box—on top, and took cord from a clothes line for our steering mechanism, looping it through the front wheels, held like reins. In truth, our turning circle was about as tight as an oil tanker’s, so we only ever traveled in straight lines.

The wide open alleyway at the back of our house—with a row of grassy backyards on one side and a chain-link fence on the other—was our race-track, and it was all about the “race.” We often patched together two go-carts, with Tito pushing Marlon, and me pushing Michael in a 50-yard dash. There was always that sense of competition between us: who could go faster, who would be the winner.

“Go, go, go, GO!” yelled Michael, leaning forward, urging us into the lead. Marlon hated losing, too, so Michael always had fierce competition. Marlon was the boy who never understood why he couldn’t outrun his own shadow. I can picture him now: sprinting through the street, looking down to his side, with a fierce determination on his face that turned to exasperation when he couldn’t put space between himself and his clinging shadow.

We pushed those go-carts until the metal brackets were scraping along the street, and the wheels buckled or fell off, with Michael tipped up on his side and me laughing so hard I couldn’t stand.

The merry-go-round in the local school field was another thrillride. Crouch down in the center of its metal base, hold on tight to the iron stanchions, and get the brothers to spin it as fast as they could. “Faster! Faster! Faster!” Michael squealed, eyes tight shut, giggling hard. He used to straddle the stanchions, like he was on a horse, going around and around and around. Eyes closed. Wind in the face.

We all dreamed of riding the train, racing the go-carts and spinning on a real carousel at Disney. We knew Mr. Long way before we had heard of Roald Dahl. To us, he was the original African-American Willy Wonka; this magical man—white hair, wizened features, leathery dark skin—dished out candy from his house on the next block, on 22nd, en route to our elementary school at the far end of Jackson Street.

Many kids beat a path to Mr. Long’s door because his younger brother went to our school. Knowing Timothy meant we got a good deal, two to five cents being good value for a little brown bag full of licorice, shoe strings, Lemonheads, Banana Splits—you name it, he had them all neatly spread out on a single bed in a front room. Mr. Long didn’t smile or say very much, but we looked forward to seeing him on school mornings. We grasped at our orders and he dutifully filled the bags. Michael loved candy and that morning ritual brightened the start of each day. How we got the money is a whole other story that I will reserve for later.

We each protected our brown paper bags of candy like gold and back at the house, inside our bedroom, we all had different hiding places which each brother would try and figure out. My hide-out was under the bed or mattress, and I always got busted, but Michael squirreled his away somewhere good because we never did find it. As adults, whenever I reminded him of this, he chuckled at the memory. That is how Michael laughed throughout his life: a combination of a chuckle, a snicker, a giggle; always shy, often self-conscious. Michael loved playing store: he’d create his counter by laying a board across a pile of books, then a tablecloth, and then he’d spread out his candy.* This “store” was set up in the doorway to our bedroom, or on the lowest bunk-bed, with him kneeling behind, awaiting orders. We traded with each other, swapping or using change kept from Mr. Long, or from a nickel found in the street.

But Michael was destined to be an entertainer, not a savvy businessman. That seemed obvious when our father challenged him about getting home late from school one afternoon. “Where were you?” asked Joseph.

“I went to get some candy,” said Michael.

“How much you pay for it?”

“Five cents.”

“How much you going to re-sell it for?”

“Five cents.”

Joseph clipped him around the head. “You don’t re-sell something for the same price you bought it!”

Typical Michael: always too fair, never ruthless enough. “Why can’t I give it for five cents?” he said, in the bedroom. The logic was lost on him and he was upset over the undeserved whack on the head. I left him on the bed, muttering under his breath as he sorted his candy into piles, no doubt still playing store in his head.

Days later, Joseph found him in the backyard, giving out candy from across the chain-link fence to other kids from the street. The kids who were less fortunate than us—and he was mobbed. “How much you sell ‘em for?” Joseph asked.* “I didn’t. I gave them away for free.”

Eighteen hundred miles away, and more than 20 years later, I visited Michael at his ranch, Neverland Valley, in the Santa Ynez region of California. He had spent time and money turning his vast acres into a theme park and the family went to check out his completed world. Neverland has always been portrayed as the outlandish creation of “a wild imagination” with the suggestion that a love of Disney was its sole inspiration. Elements of this may be correct, but the truth runs much deeper, and this was something I knew immediately when I saw with my own eyes what he had built.

Childhood memories were brought to life in a giant flashback: white Christmas lights trimming the sidewalk, the pathway, the trees, the frame and gutters of his English Tudor mansion. He had them turned on all year round to make sure that “it was Christmas every day.” A huge steam train ran between the shops and the movie theater, and a miniature train toured the circumference of the estate, via the zoo. In the main house—through the doors, passed the welcoming, model life-size butler with tray, up the wide stairway and down the hallway—was the playroom. Inside, beyond the full-size Superman and Darth Vader at the door, was the biggest table dominating the room. On it, a vintage Lionel train set was always running: two or three trains traveling the tracks with lights on, around a model landscape of hills, valleys, towns and waterfalls. Inside the house and out, Michael had built himself the biggest electric train set you could ever imagine.

Back outside, there was a full-fledged professional go-cart track with chicanes and tight bends, and the merry-go-round was spinning to music, a beautiful carousel of ornate horses. There was a candy store too, where everything was free, and a Christmas tree lit up all year round. In 2003, Michael said he developed the ranch “to create everything that I never had as a child.” But it was also about re-creating what he had enjoyed for too short a time, rebuilding it in an exaggerated version. He called himself a “fantasy fanatic” and this was his eternal fantasy.

Neverland brought back our lost days because that is how he perceived his childhood—as a missing person; an inner child wandering around his past looking to somehow reconnect with him in the future. It wasn’t a refusal to grow up because if you asked him, he never felt like he was a boy in the first place. Michael was expected to be an adult when he was a kid, and he regressed into a kid when he was expected to be an adult. He was more Benjamin Button than the Peter Pan comparison he made himself. However much I might remember laughter in our childhood, he struggled to recall it, which probably had a lot to do with the fact that I am four years older.

A friend, a nephew and I took quad bikes to explore Neverland’s 2,700 acres, which seemed endless, rolling beyond every green horizon, scattered with oak trees. One dusty fire road took us climbing to the highest peak, far away from the developed area, and a plateau, providing a 360-degree vista. My eyes scanned it all—the property, the theme park, the lake, the ferris wheel, the trains, the greenery—and it filled me with awe and pride. Look at what you’ve created, I said to my brother in my head, and repeated it to him later.

“A place of ultimate happiness,” he told me.

The later warped perception of Neverland shows how Michael was judged on the face value of his world and, in many cases, on the claims of others. There only ever seemed to be lurid judgments about him and his ranch without any attempt to figure out the more complex “why?” As with everyone, his background shaped him. But fame—especially the iconic status attached to my brother—built a public barrier as big as a dam in front of his need to be understood. But to understand him, we need to walk in his shoes and see life from his perspective. As Michael said in 2003, in a message to his fans via Ed Bradley at CBS: “If you really want to know about me, there’s a song I wrote. It’s called ‘Childhood.’ That’s the one song people should listen to . . .”

Michael’s honest awareness that he was a grown man with a kid’s mind shows in the lyrics: “People say I’m strange that way because I love such elementary things . . . but have you seen my childhood?” His way of saying, this is the way I’ve been made. This is who I am.

Many people have attempted to look through the window of our childhood, and see past the smears of media coverage and the persona of a pop icon. But I feel that you need to have lived it, and shared it, to truly know and understand it. Because ours was a unique world, as brothers and sisters under the roof of one big family. It was in a small house at 2300 Jackson Street—named after President Andrew Jackson, not us that we shared memories, music and a dream. It is here that our stories and his lyrics begin, and where, I hope, a better understanding of just who Michael was can be found.

- END OF EXCERPT -

[TrueCrypt]

Ein weitere Geschichte die Jermaine preisgab.....


Remembering 9/11 : Jermaine says Michael had meetings in Twin Towers
In a new interview, Jermaine Jackson*gave Access Hollywood’s Billy Bush a preview of*his book*where he revealed that his brother was supposed to be in The World Trade Center on Sept. 11, 2001.

“My mother had stayed up with him all the way until four in the morning and he just slept; he missed his appointments, which was great,” Jermaine told Billy, saying Michael had planned to attend meetings in the Twin Towers that day.

“My mother told us that he was fine,” Jermaine recalled.

http://www.legendarymichaeljackson.nl/?p=6040

Freitag, 16. September 2011Michael Jackson sollte am 11. September 2001 im World Trade Center sein
Michael Jackson hätte schon 2001 tot sein können. Warum? Weil er tatsächlich am 11. September, also dem Tag der Anschläge, im World Trade Center hätte sein sollen. Jermaine Jackson enthüllte jetzt, eigentlich hätte sein Bruder an diesem Tag Termine in den Zwillingstürmen gehabt, hätte diese aber verschlafen. Laut der „Sun" meinte Jermaine wörtlich: „Wir waren in heller Aufruhr als die Türme fielen, wir wussten nämlich, dass Michael dort sein sollte. Aber meine Mama erklärte mir, es ginge ihm gut. Er hatte seine Termine verpasst, Gott sei Dank!" Michael Jackson verstarb allerdings im Jahr 2009.

Quelle: fan-lexikon.de

http://www.ffn.de/musik/starnews.html

[Eva]

Michael Jackson hätte schon 2001 tot sein können. Warum? Weil er tatsächlich am 11. September, also dem Tag der Anschläge, im World Trade Center hätte sein sollen.

JJ kann's nicht lassen: Selbst wenn Michael Termine an diesem Tag im WTC gehabt hätte, würde ich davon ausgehen, dass der Termin bestimmt nicht um 9 Uhr Ortszeit angesetzt worden wäre. *Ironie on* Also, so oder so: Michael hätte (und hat ja auch) trotzdem überlebt.

Aber, was ich in dem Zusammenhang viel interessanter finde: Michael war ja nun mal zu der Zeit in NYC (30jähriges Bühnenjubiläum). Er hat für meine Begriffe eine Super-Performance hingelegt. Die Konzerte waren hochkarätig besetzt und super besucht. Achtung, Ironie on: Aber, mal wieder Michael-typisch in dieser Zeit: schlechtes Timing! Wovon redete die Welt nicht, welche Schlagzeilen waren nicht in den Zeitungen und Zeitschriften, welche Ausschnitte sah man nicht im Fernsehen? Richtig: eine Berichterstattung über MJs Konzerte war den Anschlägen zum Opfer gefallen.Ironie off.
Was natürlich auf der Hand liegt und richtig war, denn die Welt war duch diese teuflischen Terroranschläge fortan eine andere - auch für Michael Jackson.

[Lena]

@Eva. Die Konzerte wurde einige Wochen zeitversetzt im amerk. Fernsehen mit einer Rekordeinschaltquote ausgestrahlt.

Hier aus einen IV von Jermaine zu 9/11:
Remembering 9/11 : Jermaine says Michael had meetings in Twin Towers 14 Sep, 2011 | Author: admin Wesley | 3 Comments »
In a new interview, Jermaine Jackson gave Access Hollywood’s Billy Bush a preview of his book where he revealed that his brother was supposed to be in The World Trade Center on Sept. 11, 2001.

“My mother had stayed up with him all the way until four in the morning and he just slept; he missed his appointments, which was great,” Jermaine told Billy, saying Michael had planned to attend meetings in the Twin Towers that day.
“My mother told us that he was fine,” Jermaine recalled.

Demnach wäre Michael`s Mutter bei MJ gewesen. Michael`s Version sieht anders aus. Seine Familie wäre in einem anderen Hotel untergerbracht gewesen. Vibe-Interview 2003:
Post 50

http://www.mjackson.net/forum/showthread.php?11042-Sammlung-Reden-und-Interviews-von-Michael&p=463215#post463215

[Eva]

@Lena: ich meinte damit natürlich zeitnah. Dass es Ausschnitte aus den Konzerten gab, weiß ich. Es ist doch noch mal etwas anderes, wenn direkt medial über ein Konzert berichtet wird...

[Lena]

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1109/19/joy.01.html

JOY BEHAR SHOW
Jermaine Jackson Talks About Michael`s Death; Interview with Rachael Ray

Aired September 19, 2011 - 22:00 ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.


ANNOUNCER: Coming up on THE JOY BEHAR SHOW, Michael Jackson`s brother, Jermaine is here to talk about Michael`s death and the upcoming Conrad Murray trial. And Joy wants him to explain his claim that he had an escape plan for Michael if he`d been convicted of child molestation back in 2005.

And Joy has the big story lines from last night Emmys including Alec Baldwin`s bailout and Charlie Sheen`s reconciliation.

Plus Rachael Ray weighs in on some celebrity chef feuds and the fight to stop childhood obesity.

That and more starting right now.

JOY BEHAR, HLN HOST: Michael Jackson was known by almost everyone in the world but one person who really knew him the best and the longest was his older brother, Jermaine. In his new book, "You Are Not Alone: Through a brother`s eyes", Jermaine Jackson gives an inside look into Michael`s life, death and all the controversy surrounding him.

So welcome to the show Jermaine.

JERMAINE JACKSON, BROTHER OF MICHAEL JACKSON: Thank you.

BEHAR: We saw each other earlier today. I feel like I know you now.

You know, the Conrad Murray trial is going to start very soon. Do you think we`ll find out what happened to Michael in that trial?

JACKSON: I really don`t know. That`s why it was important to write the book because I wanted to sort of give the facts and explain how things happened.

BEHAR: Well, reportedly, the doctor gave Michael this drug Propofol, which caused his death. So ipso facto, that would make him culpable. Is he?

JACKSON: Is he meaning what?

BEHAR: He gave it to him. So does that make him guilty?

JACKSON: That makes the doctor -- he was the one that administered it to him outside of the hospital setting, which was wrong, because you need the proper people. He took an oath to take care of his client, not to kill him.

BEHAR: Yes.

JACKSON: At the same time, you have to be licensed to inject Propofol into anyone. You have to be an anesthesiologist. He`s a cardiologist, he knew not what he was doing.

BEHAR: Right. Propofol is the drug that they give people who are going under in a hospital setting. And you know, somebody told me in another interview I did that when you take Propofol, you do not even dream, that`s how deep in a sleep you become. Why do you think Michael had to be so deep in a sleep?

JACKSON: Michael had problems sleeping because of coming offstage and all the excitement. And whether or not he asked for it, the fact that it should have been in a proper setting, should have been administered with the proper person. And it wasn`t. He had a job to keep Michael -- keep Michael healthy, keep him alive.

BEHAR: Yes. But he was taking this Propofol quite regularly.

JACKSON: I really don`t know. Even if he was, the --

BEHAR: The doctor should have known better.

JACKSON: Yes. He should have known better because you have to -- you have to have the right medical equipment to administer this stuff. It wasn`t in a hospital setting. We don`t know how much he was giving him. That`s why we`re hoping we get answers from the trial.

BEHAR: Did you know he was doing this Propofol? Did the family know?

JACKSON: We knew he had problems with sleeping. We knew there was a thing that he was taking Demerol for pain. But none of this had --

BEHAR: What was the pain from?

JACKSON: The pain was from the Pepsi burn and the pain was also for when he --

BEHAR: Pepsi burn -- when he did the commercial?

JACKSON: Yes. Also when he performed in Munich and he fell. He fell on his back because the hydraulics gave way. But the symptoms I write about in the book, the symptoms we never heard he`s never experienced before in his entire life of being on stage. That adds up to what were they doing? How much were they giving him? And it was in an improper setting.

BEHAR: But there was no intervention by the family or anybody else. Did they not know about it? Were they afraid to do something?

JACKSON: The family? There was supposed to have been an intervention in 2001, but there wasn`t because there was not one. But when you have these symptoms that we`ve never heard or he has never experienced before, that`s what brings questions to our minds as to what was the doctor doing? What was his intentions? We would never know if he acted alone because a lot of the surveillance tapes were erased from the house.

BEHAR: That`s funny. A lot of people, they think they can tell the doctor. I know somebody years ago, a friend of the family and she -- her appendix was rupturing, she wouldn`t go to the hospital and the doctor said, well, she doesn`t want to go, and she died.

JACKSON: Wow.

BEHAR: You know, I mean a lot of times the patient and the doctor are in some kind of co-dependency. Do you think that might have had something to do with this?

JACKSON: No, no, no, no. The doctor has given an oath, all doctors do. Their oath is to do their job, according to their law, the medical laws. And Dr. Murray`s job was to keep Michael healthy, to keep him alive. And the fact that he went from being healthy beyond mid-June for this tour and then all of a sudden these things happened, the symptoms.

BEHAR: So you blame the doctor?

JACKSON: I blame the doctor because of his negligence. I blame the doctor because of just irresponsible -- the sad whole situation.

BEHAR: You also write in the book that there was a conspiracy to -- that Michael thought there was a conspiracy to finish him off, to kill him, basically. He wore bullet proof vests. Do you believe that?

JACKSON: Yes, he wore a bullet proof vest here in New York. He was always threatened. We were threatened quite a bit on the "Victory Tour" when we were going to the concerts.

BEHAR: Who threatened him?

JACKSON: There were people -- there were just series of random threats from sick people.

(CROSSTALK)

BEHAR: Well, that happens to a lot of celebrities, I think. It`s not really serious, people say things.

JACKSON: Yes. But you take all threats seriously because you never know. See Michael was such a great star, there was like so much coming at him, and he didn`t trust. Later, he did not trust.

BEHAR: Yes. Who do you think wanted to kill him specifically? I mean do you believe that this Propofol death was deliberate or premeditated in some way or an accident?

JACKSON: If you`re a doctor, I can`t say whether it was an accident because he should have known, whether he should have been putting this in him or not even if Michael asked for it.

BEHAR: I know that part. But I`m saying -- you don`t think it`s deliberate, do you?

JACKSON: What I put in the book, read the book. And what I did is even before the Propofol, I gave you all the events and all the things that took place even from when he put out "Thriller" and was a major success and all of a sudden he`d become all these crazy names and all this stuff, all the way to the point of his death.

I want them to read it to examine for themselves what happened to Michael Jackson. And they need to know especially on Chapter 17 all these false allegations from day one. Michael says in there, to walk in my shoes, to walk in his moccasins, then you can judge him as to who he really was.

BEHAR: Yes. Well, we`ll get to all of that. I want to get to everything in this interview. But I`m still working on this part about, you know, what happened to him.

Your sister, Latoya told me on this show, like call warned her, he said, "I`m going to be murdered for my music publishing." She also said this.

Let`s watch the tape of Latoya.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

LATOYA JACKSON, SISTER OF MICHAEL JACKSON: I think it was a conspiracy, because the way my brother laid it out to me, everything happened exactly the way he said it would happen. I think that there are very many people involved. This was premeditated. It was pre-planned. I think Dr. Murray just happened to be the fall guy.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BEHAR: She says it was premeditated. Do you think it was premeditated?

JACKSON: I don`t know.

BEHAR: She seems to.

JACKSON: That`s why the trial is so important because there again, I wanted to not yell this or not yell -- we are family members but still we have our own opinion as to what happened.

BEHAR: Right. So you don`t agree with her?

JACKSON: I`m not saying I don`t agree with her. The bottom line is I do agree to the fact that he is not here and it was by the hands of the doctor as well as whoever else was coming in the house that we will never know because the tapes were erased. I`m saying the doctors should have known better. Should have known better.

BEHAR: Yes. Before his death, Michael was rehearsing for a series of 50 concerts. How was his health during that time?

JACKSON: Michael`s health was incredible. He was in shape.

BEHAR: So he was in good shape to do 50 concerts?

JACKSON: He was in very good shape. It started out with 10. He was in very good health. He was dancing four hours a day with Lovell Smith. He was cut, he was ripped, he excited about just all the creative aspects of the show and what he wanted to do when he got there to make changes. Not only that, he was looking forward to doing that and going beyond that by putting a down payment on a home that he wanted in Vegas and he had plans. He had plans to move on beyond "This Is It".

BEHAR: I wonder if there`s any side effects to Propofol. I mean the next day, you don`t have a hangover; you don`t feel -- I mean --

JACKSON: But see, even if he had had Propofol in the past, it had to be with the right anesthesiologist who was licensed and there were never these type of symptoms that --

(CROSSTALK)

BEHAR: Well, apparently he did not know better to ask for an anesthesiologist either.

JACKSON: No.

BEHAR: Michael didn`t.

JACKSON: It`s --

(CROSSTALK)

BEHAR: Yes.

JACKSON: -- to administer Propofol, you have to have one.

BEHAR: Right. Well, we reached out to the AEG people, the promoters but they did not return our calls because we were going to ask them about, you know, maybe pushing him too hard.

JACKSON: Yes.

BEHAR: But you say no.

JACKSON: Well, pushing him, they were pushing him. They were -- I state in the book, there was one time he didn`t show up for one of the rehearsals at a certain time and they -- from our eyes and ears that were at the rehearsals, they tore into him, they went to his house and they read him the riot act. And it was very tough, it was very tough for him.

BEHAR: Ok and we`re going to take a break and we`ll have much more with Jermaine Jackson all the way. So stay right there.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Coming up later, Joy dishes the dirt with celebrity chef, Rachael Ray.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

BEHAR: And we`re back talking to Jermaine Jackson about the turbulent life and death of his brother, Michael, which was revealed -- which is revealed in -- in Jermaine`s new book, "You are not Alone." Ok.

There`s a lot of family love in the book, right? You had -- you were a loving family in many ways. What kind of boy was Michael as he -- when he was a child?

JACKSON: Michael was a lot of fun. What I put in the book was pretty much the brotherhood, and the love we had for one another when we were growing up. And so many wonderful moments -- wonderful meaning funny times of us just acting like the three stooges and having fun. Food fights on tour.

(CROSSTALK)

BEHAR: Food fights.

JACKSON: The Jackson 5 days, of just putting pranks and -- and because at the end of the day, this is to show the human side as well as to address all the things that has -- that has happened. That there`s a beautiful story here because Michael comes from a family we were raised to respect people, to respect one another, to have love for life and love for God`s creations. And he never lost that all through his life.

BEHAR: Yes. Your -- your father, you father Joe, admitted to Oprah that he did whip you kids.

JACKSON: Yes.

BEHAR: And you write that Michael would have to pick the branch that Joe would whip him with and he -- and he beat -- he beat up Marlon and Michael the most. Would you say that`s a sadistic behavior?

JACKSON: No. No. He didn`t beat them -- this is -- this is amazing because --back in the day, we were raised a little different from anyone else. We -- we -- we got spankings for things that we were told not to do. We were kids but it -- it wasn`t beatings, it wasn`t abuse and we were raised like any other kids on the block.

BEHAR: So then -- so then why did you write that Michael would have to pick the branch that Joe would whip him with?

JACKSON: We all had to pick a branch which was just a little thing like this and you would just get --

(CROSSTALK)

BEHAR: That hurts.

JACKSON: Yes.

BEHAR: That hurts, that leaves marks.

JACKSON: But -- but about -- no, no. There were no whips, there were no marks, nothing. The bottom line, is there was so much going on around us, growing up, in a neighborhood that was just infested with gangs and drugs.

BEHAR: Where was this?

JACKSON: In Gary, Indiana.

BEHAR: Gary, Indiana.

JACKSON: And having to duck because -- and turn the lights out and hit the floor because they are shooting and they are fighting right around you. My father did not want us to get involved with that. At the same time, all our friends are either on drugs or dead or -- or just tragic endings.

So he was very careful not to let us get involved in those types of things that were all around us all the time.

BEHAR: I understand that.

JACKSON: But there was nothing about abuse, Michael being younger, he was frightened because anybody young who`s going to get a spanking, they run --

(CROSSTALK)

BEHAR: How old was he when he got spanked?

JACKSON: We were -- we were all like -- he was -- I`m four years older, so if I was 10, he was 6, and it`s just that that`s the way the families were raised in the neighborhood.

BEHAR: Yes.

Well, you know, I understand, you know, why your father and your mother would want you to stay out of gangs and all of those of drugs and other bad behaviors but that`s -- I mean -- so -- so you discipline your children so harshly to keep them away --

(CROSSTALK)

JACKSON: No, it wasn`t harshly, it wasn`t harshly.

BEHAR: It wasn`t?

JACKSON: No it was not harshly.

BEHAR: All right. Ok. If you say so, it sounded to me like it because I`m totally against spanking.

JACKSON: But I think I was -- yes. But -- but you got to realize the things they call Columbine, kids come to school and he just shoots up his friends and the whole school.

BEHAR: Right.

JACKSON: That comes from nobody not caring for them, disciplining them at the right time, knowing their whereabouts and what`s going on.

BEHAR: Well, I guess.

(CROSSTALK)

JACKSON: No, really. Really.

BEHAR: But that -- Jermaine, there are other ways to discipline children besides corporal punishment, that`s all I`m saying?

JACKSON: No, no it wasn`t that type of punishment. My father didn`t do anything else. He raised the family during a time there was so much going on to come between family. He brought us from Indiana to California drug-free and without getting involved with gangs and we were all loving each other.

BEHAR: Well, ok maybe it didn`t affect you as much but it might have affected Michael --

(CROSSTALK)

JACKSON: No --

BEHAR: -- because when he asked you if you would cry if your father died and he said that he didn`t think he would. Why not?

JACKSON: Because he was the youngest. He didn`t understand, but he wouldn`t say that today, when they were giving him trouble at the final rehearsals. He -- when he was trying to get people to listen to him at these last days of his rehearsals, he said I bet you if my father come down here you all would listen to me. He loved his father, he respected his father. And he respected his father.

People gave my father a bad rap because he did not kiss butt. When you were wrong, you were wrong. And he did not walk into Hollywood and smile on your face and talk about you behind your back. If he liked you, he liked you, if he didn`t like you, he didn`t like you.

BEHAR: Ok. Back with Jermaine Jackson after a quick break.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

BEHAR: We`re back with Jermaine Jackson. You know, Jermaine, there`s all this conversation that we`ve had over the years about Michael sharing his bed with children, ok. What?

JACKSON: Go ahead.

BEHAR: Why did he do that?

JACKSON: Talking about the first case, Michael took care of the family. It was the mother, the kid, the sister, they all have gifts.

(CROSSTALK)

BEHAR: Maybe that`s why -- that`s maybe why they didn`t complain.

JACKSON: No. But no one ever said that Michael was seducing the mother. The mother was there all the time with the kids.

BEHAR: Well, maybe he wasn`t interested in the mother.

JACKSON: No. You can`t say that. Have you ever called my brother a pedophile before?

BEHAR: No.

JACKSON: You haven`t?

BEHAR: No. I don`t know. I wasn`t there.

JACKSON: Listen, that first case, the system knew, the media knew -- they knew the extortion attempt the father wanted to do.

BEHAR: Why would he do it? It bothers me that he would think it was ok for people to look at that and say, ok, he`s a 40-year-old guy with little kids --

JACKSON: Because -- because I`ll explained to you why. Michael grew up -- we grew up in a room with bunk beds and all the brothers. Psychologically that never left him, the children together.

BEHAR: I know but you grew up that way, too, and you didn`t do that.

JACKSON: No. I`m still around kids all the time.

BEHAR: You have them in your bedroom?

JACKSON: Absolutely. There`s nothing wrong with that. If I`m responsible for kids and their parents leave them with me, what`s wrong with it? Because that`s never going to cross my mind of doing anything like that. You see, the world today is so demented and so sick that they look at these things the wrong way.

My brother never touched anyone and they knew this and the media knew this too. But they figure, oh, let`s say Michael did this. Why? Because it`s going to create ratings. It`s going to create newspapers. They knew the difference. They knew the truth.

In the book, I speak about all of this. Because when you talk about him, you`re talking about all of us.

BEHAR: Yes.

JACKSON: We`re family, we`re the Jacksons. He`s carrying my name, I`m carrying his.

BEHAR: Well, just -- I think it just has that appearance, you know. And after the molestation charges, he continued to do it. Why do it?

JACKSON: Because he did nothing wrong. He has a wonderful love for children. What you have to realize is --

(CROSSTALK)

BEHAR: And didn`t you want to have -- yes.

BEHAR: -- Michael is a kid himself. You`re looking at Michael through grown-up eyes.

BEHAR: A little bit of an arrested development, would you say?

JACKSON: He`s looking at kids through child`s eyes because he didn`t have a childhood. There was never -- none of that.

BEHAR: And didn`t you want to whisk him away to Bahrain if those charges held up and he went to jail?

JACKSON: No. That`s not true. Because you have to be --

BEHAR: Well, tell me what it was. Straighten me out.

JACKSON: You have to -- why do they do this?

BEHAR: It`s in the book.

JACKSON: For me to be here, you can rest assured I have researched and made sure everything in this book is true.

BEHAR: Ok. So it`s not true that you were going to escape with him, take him out of the country?

JACKSON: Let me tell you. Let me explain to you.

BEHAR: Go ahead.

JACKSON: Watching my brother being handcuffed for no reason, nine counts of what? What? At the same time, child services, even before these counts, cleared him, investigated him, there`s nothing that he did.

And he knew this, too. At the same time, all this is going on, I`m watching this --

BEHAR: You were worried.

JACKSON: Worried?

BEHAR: You were worried maybe he would not get off -- the charges would not be dropped.

JACKSON: He would not get a fair trial. After hearing the judge say when he had fallen, he went to the hospital and came back, the judge said, if he`s not back in 45 minutes, we`re sending him to jail. This is what they wanted to do.

BEHAR: All right, Jermaine. Thank you very much for this. Ok.

His book is called "You Are Not Alone."

[Hippolytos]

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JOY BEHAR SHOW
Jermaine Jackson Talks About Michael`s Death; Interview with Rachael Ray
Aired September 19, 2011 - 22:00 ET

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ANNOUNCER: Coming up on THE JOY BEHAR SHOW, Michael Jackson`s brother, Jermaine is here to talk about Michael`s death and the upcoming Conrad Murray trial. And Joy wants him to explain his claim that he had an escape plan for Michael if he`d been convicted of child molestation back in 2005.
Ansager: Beginn der “Fröhlichen Bahar Show”. Michael Jacksons Bruder, Jermaine Jackson ist hier um über über Michaels Tod und den bevorstehenden Prozess gegen Conrad Murray zu reden. Und Joy möchte, dass er seine Behauptung über einen Fluchtplan für Michael erklärt, wenn dieser wegen Kindesbelästigung im Jahr 2005 verurteilt worden wäre.

JOY BEHAR, HLN HOST: Michael Jackson was known by almost everyone in the world but one person who really knew him the best and the longest was his older brother, Jermaine. In his new book, "You Are Not Alone: Through a brother`s eyes", Jermaine Jackson gives an inside look into Michael`s life, death and all the controversy surrounding him.
Joy Behar, Gastgeber: Michael Jackson wurde von fast jeder Person auf der Welt gekannt, aber eine Person, die ihn wirklich am besten und am längsten kannte, war sein älterer Bruder Jermaine. In seinem neuen Buch „You Are Not Alone Durch eines Bruders Augen“ gibt Jermaine Einblick in Michaels Leben, Tod und in die Kontroversen rund um seine Person.
Herzlich willkommen in der Show, Jermaine.

BEHAR: We saw each other earlier today. I feel like I know you now.
You know, the Conrad Murray trial is going to start very soon. Do you think we`ll find out what happened to Michael in that trial?
Behar: Wir sahen einander bereits früher heute. Ich fühle, als ob ich Sie nun kenne.
Sie wissen, der Prozess von Conrad Murray wird bald beginnen. Denken Sie, dass wir durch diesen Prozess herausfinden werden, was mit Michael geschehen ist?

JACKSON: I really don`t know. That`s why it was important to write the book because I wanted to sort of give the facts and explain how things happened.
Jackson: Ich weiß es wirklich nicht. Das ist der Grund, warum es wichtig war, das Buch zu schreibenweil ich gewissermaßen Fakten geben und erklären wollte, wie sich die Dinge ereigneten.

BEHAR: Well, reportedly, the doctor gave Michael this drug Propofol, which caused his death. So ipso facto, that would make him culpable. Is he?
Behar: Gut, wie verlautet, gab der Arzt Michael dieses Medikament Propofol, das die Ursache für seinen Tod ist. Allein schon diese Tatsache würde ihn schuldig machen. Ist er es?

JACKSON: Is he meaning what?
Jackson: Ist er meint was?

BEHAR: He gave it to him. So does that make him guilty?
Behar: Er gab es ihm. So macht ihn das schuldig?

JACKSON: That makes the doctor -- he was the one that administered it to him outside of the hospital setting, which was wrong, because you need the proper people. He took an oath to take care of his client, not to kill him.
Jackson: Das macht den Doktor – er war derjenige, der es ihm außerhalb des Krankenhauses gab, was falsch war, weil man dafür die richtigen Leute braucht. Er schwor einen Eid, für seinen Patienten zu sorgen, nicht, ihn zu töten.

BEHAR: Yes.
Behar: Ja.

JACKSON: At the same time, you have to be licensed to inject Propofol into anyone. You have to be an anesthesiologist. He`s a cardiologist, he knew not what he was doing.
Jackson: Und außerdem muss man die Erlaubnis haben, Propofol irgendjemandem zu verabreichen. Man muss Anästhesist sein. Er ist Kardiologe, und er wusste nicht, was er tat.

BEHAR: Right. Propofol is the drug that they give people who are going under in a hospital setting. And you know, somebody told me in another interview I did that when you take Propofol, you do not even dream, that`s how deep in a sleep you become. Why do you think Michael had to be so deep in a sleep?
Behar: Richtig. Propofol ist das Medikament, das sie Leuten im Krankenhaus für eine Narkose geben. Und wissen sie, in einem anderen Interview sagte mir jemand, dass man nicht einmal träumt, wenn man Propofol nimmt, weil der Schlaf so tief ist.. Was denken Sie, warum Michael in einem so tiefen Schlaf sein musste?

JACKSON: Michael had problems sleeping because of coming offstage and all the excitement. And whether or not he asked for it, the fact that it should have been in a proper setting, should have been administered with the proper person. And it wasn`t. He had a job to keep Michael -- keep Michael healthy, keep him alive.
Jackson: Michael hatte Schlafprobleme weil er nicht abschalten konnten und wegen der anzen Aufregung. Und ob er danach fragte oder nicht, Tatsache ist, dass es in der richtigen Art gegeben werden sollte von der richtigen person. Und das war nicht der Fall. Er hatte den Job, Michael zu halten--- Michael gesund zu halten, ihn am Leben zu halten.

BEHAR: Yes. But he was taking this Propofol quite regularly.
Behar: Ja. Aber er nahm dieses Propofol ziemlich regelmäßig.

JACKSON: I really don`t know. Even if he was, the --
Jackson: Ich weiß es wirklich nicht. Selbst wenn er es tat, der---

BEHAR: The doctor should have known better.
Behar: Der Arzt sollte es besser gewusst haben.

JACKSON: Yes. He should have known better because you have to -- you have to have the right medical equipment to administer this stuff. It wasn`t in a hospital setting. We don`t know how much he was giving him. That`s why we`re hoping we get answers from the trial.
Jackson: Ja. Er sollte es besser gewusst haben weil ma dazu--- weil man dazu die richtige medizinische Ausrüstung haben müssen, um mit diesem Zeug umzugehen. Es war nicht in einem Krankenhaus gegeben. Wir wissen nicht, wie viel er ihm gegeben hat. Das ist der Grund warum wir hoffen, Antworten durch diesen Prozess zu bekommen.

BEHAR: Did you know he was doing this Propofol? Did the family know?
Behar: Wussten Sie, dass er dieses Propofol nahm? Wusste es die Familie?

JACKSON: We knew he had problems with sleeping. We knew there was a thing that he was taking Demerol for pain. But none of this had --
Jackson: Wir wussten, dass er Probleme mit dem Schlafen hatte. Wir wussten, dass es einen Grund dafür gab, dass er Demerol gegen Schmerzen nahm. Aber nichts davon hatte---

BEHAR: What was the pain from?
Behar: Woher kamen die Schmerzen?

JACKSON: The pain was from the Pepsi burn and the pain was also for when he --
Jackson: Die Schmerzen waren vom Brand bei Pepsi und die Schmerzen waren daher, als er--

BEHAR: Pepsi burn -- when he did the commercial?
Behar: Brand bei Pepsi—als er die Werbung machte

JACKSON: Yes. Also when he performed in Munich and he fell. He fell on his back because the hydraulics gave way. But the symptoms I write about in the book, the symptoms we never heard he`s never experienced before in his entire life of being on stage. That adds up to what were they doing? How much were they giving him? And it was in an improper setting.
Jackson: Ja. Auch als er in München auftrat und fiel. Er fiel auf seinen Rücken, weil die Hydraulik nachgab. Aber die Symptome, ich schrieb darüber in dem Buch, wir haben niemals von diesen Symptomen gehört, er hat sie nie zuvor erfahren in seinem gesamten Bühnenleben.
Das führt zu: Was haben sie getan? Wie viel haben sie ihm gegeben? Und es war in einer falschen Umgebung.

BEHAR: But there was no intervention by the family or anybody else. Did they not know about it? Were they afraid to do something?
Behar: Aber es gab kein Eingreifen durch die Familie oder sonst jemanden. Wussten sie nichts davon? Hatten sie Angst, etwas zu tun?

JACKSON: The family? There was supposed to have been an intervention in 2001, but there wasn`t because there was not one. But when you have these symptoms that we`ve never heard or he has never experienced before, that`s what brings questions to our minds as to what was the doctor doing? What was his intentions? We would never know if he acted alone because a lot of the surveillance tapes were erased from the house.
Jackson: Die Familie? Es wurde angenommen, es habe 2001 ein Eingreifen gegeben, was es aber nicht gegeben hat, weil es ein Eingreifen nicht gab. Aber wenn man dieses Symptome hat, von denen wir niemals hörten oder er sie niemals zuvor erfuhr, das ist was Fragen aufwirft wie Was Tat der Arzt? Was waren seine Absichten? Wir werden nie wissen, ob er alleine handelte, weil viele der Überwachungs-Bänder im Haus gelöscht wurden.
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BEHAR: You know, I mean a lot of times the patient and the doctor are in some kind of co-dependency. Do you think that might have had something to do with this?
Behar: Wissen Sie, ich meine häufig sind Arzt und Patient in einer Art Co-Abhängigkeit. Denken sie, es könnte etwas damit zu tun haben?

JACKSON: No, no, no, no. The doctor has given an oath, all doctors do. Their oath is to do their job, according to their law, the medical laws. And Dr. Murray`s job was to keep Michael healthy, to keep him alive. And the fact that he went from being healthy beyond mid-June for this tour and then all of a sudden these things happened, the symptoms.
Jackson: Nein, nein, nein, nein. Der Arzt hat einen Eid geschworen wie alle Ärzte. Dieser Eid besagt, dass sie ihre Arbeit gemäß dem Gesetz tun, gemäß den medizischen Vorschriften. Und Dr. Murrays Job war es, Michael gesund zu halten, ihn am leben zu halten. Und Fakt ist, dass er gesund war bis Mitte Juni für diese Tour und dann passierten plötzlich diese Dinge, die Symptome.

BEHAR: So you blame the doctor?
Behar: Also machen Sie den Arzt verantwortlich?

JACKSON: I blame the doctor because of his negligence. I blame the doctor because of just irresponsible -- the sad whole situation.
Jackson: Ich mache den Arzt verantwortlich, weil er nachlässig war. Ich mache den Arzt verantwortlich weil er gerade verantwortungslos – die ganze traurige Situation.

BEHAR: You also write in the book that there was a conspiracy to -- that Michael thought there was a conspiracy to finish him off, to kill him, basically. He wore bullet proof vests. Do you believe that?
Behar: Sie schreiben auch in ihrem Buch, dass es auch eine Verschwörung gab – dass Michael dachte, dass es ein Komplott gab, ihn ferig zu machen, zu grundsätzlich zu töten. Er trug kugelsichere Westen. Glauben sie das?

JACKSON: Yes, he wore a bullet proof vest here in New York. He was always threatened. We were threatened quite a bit on the "Victory Tour" when we were going to the concerts.
Jackson: Ja, er trug eine kugelsichere Weste hier in new York. Er wurde immer bedroht. Wir waren ein wenig bedroht während der Victory-Tour, als wir Konzerte machten.

BEHAR: Who threatened him?
Behar. Wer bedrohte ihn?


JACKSON: There were people -- there were just series of random threats from sick people.
Jackson: Es waren Leute – es gab eine ganze Reihe von wirren Drohungen von kranken Leuten

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BEHAR: Well, that happens to a lot of celebrities, I think. It`s not really serious, people say things.
Behar: Gut, das passiert vielen Berühmtheiten, denke ich. Es ist nicht wirklich ernst gemeint, wenn Leute diese Dinge sagen.

JACKSON: Yes. But you take all threats seriously because you never know. See Michael was such a great star, there was like so much coming at him, and he didn`t trust. Later, he did not trust.
Jackson: Ja. Aber man muss alle Drohungen ernst nehmen, weil man das nie wissen kann. Sieh mal, Michael war so ein großer Star, es gab soviel Andrang zu ihm, und er war sich nicht sicher. Später traute er (keinem?) mehr.

BEHAR: Yes. Who do you think wanted to kill him specifically? I mean do you believe that this Propofol death was deliberate or premeditated in some way or an accident?
Behar: Ja. Wer, denken Sie, wollte speziell in töten? Ich meine, glauben sie, dass dieser Propofol-Tod absichtlich oder vorsätzlich auf irgendeine Art war oder ein Unfall?

JACKSON: If you`re a doctor, I can`t say whether it was an accident because he should have known, whether he should have been putting this in him or not even if Michael asked for it.
Jackson: Wenn Sie ein Arzt wären, ich kann nicht sagen, ob es ein Unfall war, weil er gewusst haben sollte, ob er ihm das geben sollte oder nicht sogar wenn Michaeldarum bat..

BEHAR: I know that part. But I`m saying -- you don`t think it`s deliberate, do you?
Behar: Ich kenne diesen Teil. Aber ich hatte gefragt--- Sie denken nicht, es ist Absicht, nicht wahr?

JACKSON: What I put in the book, read the book. And what I did is even before the Propofol, I gave you all the events and all the things that took place even from when he put out "Thriller" and was a major success and all of a sudden he`d become all these crazy names and all this stuff, all the way to the point of his death.
I want them to read it to examine for themselves what happened to Michael Jackson. And they need to know especially on Chapter 17 all these false allegations from day one. Michael says in there, to walk in my shoes, to walk in his moccasins, then you can judge him as to who he really was.
Jackson: Das steht in meinem Buch, lesen sie das Buch. Und was ich beschrieb, ist sogar die zeit vor dem Propofol, ich berichte Ihnen von allen Ereignissen und allen Dingen, die stattfanden sogar von der Zeit, als er „Thriller“ herausbrachte, der ein Haupterfolg war und plötzlich passten all diese verrückten Namen und all dieser Kram, den ganzen Weg bis zumPunkt seines Todes.
Ich will, dass sie es lesen damit Sie für sich selbst prüfen, was mit Michael Jackson geschah. Und Sie müssen speziell das Kapitel 17 lesen mit all diesen falschen Behauptungen vom Tag Eins. Michael sagt dazu, laufen in meinen Schuhen, laufen in seinen Mokassins, dann können Sie beurteilen, wer er wirklich war.

BEHAR: Yes. Well, we`ll get to all of that. I want to get to everything in this interview. But I`m still working on this part about, you know, what happened to him.
Your sister, Latoya told me on this show, like call warned her, he said, "I`m going to be murdered for my music publishing." She also said this.
Let`s watch the tape of Latoya.
Behar: Ja. Gut. Wir werden zu all dem noch kommen. Ich möchte zu allen Dingen kommen in diesem Interview. Aber ich bin noch nicht fertig mit diesem Part, wissen Sie, was mit ihm geschah.
Ihre Schwester LaToya erzählte mir in dieser Show, dass ein Anruf sie warnte, er sagte: „Ich
werde ermordet werden für meinen Musik-Katalog.“ Sie selbat sagte das auch.
Lassen Sie uns das Video von LaToya ansehen.

(Beginn des Video-Clips)
LATOYA JACKSON, SISTER OF MICHAEL JACKSON: I think it was a conspiracy, because the way my brother laid it out to me, everything happened exactly the way he said it would happen. I think that there are very many people involved. This was premeditated. It was pre-planned. I think Dr. Murray just happened to be the fall guy.
LATOYA JACKSON, SCHWESTER von MICHAEL JACKSON: Ich denke, dass es ein Komplott war, weil die Art, wie mein Bruder es mir darlegte, alles passierte exakt in der Art, wie er sagte, dass es passieren würde. Ich denke, dass sehr viele Menschen beteiligt sind. Es war vorsätzlich. Es war vorgeplant. Ich denke, Dr. Murray ist nur zufällig der Sündenbock.
(Ende des Video-Clips)

BEHAR: She says it was premeditated. Do you think it was premeditated?
Behar: Sie sagt, es war vorsätzlich. Denken Sie, es war vorsätzlich?

JACKSON: I don`t know.
Jackson: Ich weiß es nicht.

BEHAR: She seems to.
Behar: Sie scheinbar doch. (?)

JACKSON: That`s why the trial is so important because there again, I wanted to not yell this or not yell -- we are family members but still we have our own opinion as to what happened.
Jackson: Das ist es, warum der Prozess so wichtig ist weil dort wieder, ich möchte das schreien oder nicht schreien--- wir sind Mitglieder einer Familie, aber wir haben immer noch unsere eigene Meinung über das, was geschah.

BEHAR: Right. So you don`t agree with her?
Behar: Richtig. So stimmen Sie also nicht mit ihr überein?

JACKSON: I`m not saying I don`t agree with her. The bottom line is I do agree to the fact that he is not here and it was by the hands of the doctor as well as whoever else was coming in the house that we will never know because the tapes were erased. I`m saying the doctors should have known better. Should have known better.
Jackson: Ich sage nicht, dass ich mit ihr nicht übereinstimme. Im Endergebnis stimme ich ihr überein bezüglich der Tatsache, dass er nicht hier ist und das es durch die Hand des Arztes war ebenso gut wie wer auch immer in das Haus gekommen sein kann, was wir niemals wissen werden, weil die Bänder gelöscht wurden. Ich sagte, der Arzt sollte es besser gewusst haben. Sollte es besser gewusst haben.

BEHAR: Yes. Before his death, Michael was rehearsing for a series of 50 concerts. How was his health during that time?
Behar: Ja. Vor seinem Tod probte Michael über eine Reihe von 50 Konzerten. Wie war seine Gesundheit während dieser Zeit?

JACKSON: Michael`s health was incredible. He was in shape.
Jackson: Michaels Gesundheit war unglaublich. Er war in Form.

BEHAR: So he was in good shape to do 50 concerts?
Behar: So war er in guter Verfassung 50 Konzerte zu geben?

JACKSON: He was in very good shape. It started out with 10. He was in very good health. He was dancing four hours a day with Lovell Smith. He was cut, he was ripped, he excited about just all the creative aspects of the show and what he wanted to do when he got there to make changes. Not only that, he was looking forward to doing that and going beyond that by putting a down payment on a home that he wanted in Vegas and he had plans. He had plans to move on beyond "This Is It".
Jackson: Er war in sehr guter Verfassung. Es begann mit 10. Er war bei sehr guter Gesundheit. Er tanzte 4 Stunden pro Tag mit Lovell Smith. Er war hin- und hergerissen, er war aufgeregt über alle kreativen Aspekte der Show und was er noch ändern wollte. Nicht nur das, er sich freute darauf, es zu tun und dass er darüberhinaus Pläne, eine Anzahlung für ein Haus in Vegas zu leisten.Und er hatte Pläne weiter zu machen außer „This Is It“.

BEHAR: I wonder if there`s any side effects to Propofol. I mean the next day, you don`t have a hangover; you don`t feel -- I mean --
Behar: Ich frage mich, ob es irgendwelche nebenwirkungen von Propofol gibt. Ich meine den nächsten Tag, man hat keinen Kater, man fühlt sich nicht -- Ich meine ---

JACKSON: But see, even if he had had Propofol in the past, it had to be with the right anesthesiologist who was licensed and there were never these type of symptoms that --
Jackson: Aber sehen sie, selbst wenn er Propofol in der Vergangenheit genommen hat, es musste mit einem richtigen Anästhesisten sein, der lizenziert war und da waren niemals diese Art von Sypthomen, die----

CROSSTALK---Durcheinanderreden






Forts. folgt morgen

[Memphis]

so mehr ich über Jermaine lese um so uninteressanter wird für mich sein buch.
ansonsten: danke für die übersetzung

[TrueCrypt]

Hier mal ein Vids


Added On September 19, 2011
Jermaine Jackson explains to HLN's Joy Behar why it was okay for brother Michael Jackson to host sleepovers with kids.

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