Anklage wegen fahrlässiger Tötung: Dr Murray vor Gericht

[Maja5809]

...zu dem "SEARCH WARRANT" habe ich schon mal was gepostet, wo man ganz gut die Ungereimtheiten von Murrays Aussagen erkennt...
Will jetzt nicht nochmal alles reinkopieren, war etwas länger, deshalb geht am besten mal zurrück auf

S 97 zum Post 970...da stehts..

[tinamj]

Er wird am Ende bestimmt DER Arzt sein, dem da...huch, hoppala..... ein "kleines" Missgeschick passiert ist, was vielleicht sowieso irgendwann mal passiert wäre, wenn nicht bei ihm dann beim nächsten!?

...das kleine Missgeschick, Michael Jackson umgebracht zu haben ...
ich hoffe nicht. Soviel Vertrauen hab ich selbst in die Amis, dass sie DAS nicht zulassen - so blöd können sie nicht sein und soviel werden sie auch aus OJ Simpson gelernt haben und auch aus einem gewissen Druck der Bevölkerung heraus spüren

Es ist immer von verschwundenen Überwachungsvideos die Rede. Aber gab es die überhaupt? Auf Neverland gab es wohl keine, zumindest nicht bis 2003. Und das Zimmer, in dem Michael ohne Atmung gefunden wurde, war nicht sein normales Schlafzimmer.

Ich dachte, alle Räume wären überwacht
Warum eigentlich war er nicht in seinem normalen Schlafzimmer, das ist doch auch alles unlogisch...

Ich weiß echt nicht was ich zu diesem Typ sagen soll...
Sollte er nicht genügend Jahre bekommen wird er so oder so umgebracht oder er bringt sich selbst um, ich denke das weiß er auch.
Und umso mehr Sachen ans Licht kommen, desto schlimmer!

Dazu sag ich nur, Mark Chapman lebt immer noch. Und umgebracht hat er sich auch nicht. Und bei dem gab es null Zweifel, ob er Schuld ist oder nicht - der war sowas von Schuld

Genau. Ich suche die ganze Zeit einen Bericht, in dem, natürlich die Sch....-Presse, schreibt, wie Michael´s letzter Tag abgelaufen sein soll.

Es ist zum davonlaufen, wenn man die Sch...medien braucht, sind sie nicht da - ich warte immer noch auf den ausführlichen Lebenslauf von Murray, den ich allen Zeitungen erwartet hätte

[Bernarda]

Hei Tinamji
Auf der Homepage von Dr. Murrays Anwälten ist ein Lebenslauf von ihm veröffentlicht. Vielleicht hilft der Dir weiter.
Ich kann aber keinen Link reinstellen, weiß nicht, wie das geht.
Google doch nach Chernoff.

Gruß
Bernarda

[Rain]

Hei Tinamji
Auf der Homepage von Dr. Murrays Anwälten ist ein Lebenslauf von ihm veröffentlicht. Vielleicht hilft der Dir weiter.
Ich kann aber keinen Link reinstellen, weiß nicht, wie das geht.
Google doch nach Chernoff.

Gruß
Bernarda

Stimmt ja, da gibt's einen kurzen Lebenslauf.

Dr. Conrad Murray was born in St. Andrews, Grenada. He spent the first seven years of his life being cared for by his maternal grandparents. His mother, Milta, traveled to Trinidad and Tobago, seeking better occupational opportunities. His grandparents were indigent farmers who lived off the land.
At age seven he moved to Trinidad & Tobago to join his mother and stepfather. He later became a citizen and completed his primary schooling under the British education system. At age 18 he spent a year as a voluntary elementary school teacher in Trinidad. He then became a customs clerk, and later worked as a part-time insurance underwriter for American Life Insurance Company. When he was 19 years old he bought his first home. The proceeds of its sale later funded his education in the United States.
In 1978, at the age of 25, he met his father for the first time, Rawle Andrews, M.D.. Dr. Andrews served the greater Houston metropolitan area for 37 years prior to his death.
In the spring of 1980, Dr. Murray returned to Houston and enrolled at Texas Southern University. He completed his degree in pre-medicine and biological sciences in three years and graduated with honors as Magna Cum Laude.
In 1989 he graduated with a degree in medicine from Meharry Medical College in Nashville, Tennessee. This followed his return from 4th year senior elective medical training at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minnesota. In 1992, he completed his internship and residency at Loma Linda University Medical Center, in Loma Linda, CA.
After Loma Linda Medical Center, he attended the University of Arizona for his Cardiology Fellowship training. Dr. Murray later went into his sub-specialty training at University of San Diego and Sharp Healthcare in San Diego, California. There, Dr. Murray was under the guidance of renowned Interventional Cardiologist, Professor Maurice Buchbinder, M.D., with whom he spent 3 years following his training as the associate director for the interventional cardiology fellowship-training program at Sharp Memorial Hospital San Diego.
In 1999 Dr. Murray moved to Las Vegas, NV, and because of the patients and people he met in the community he opened a private practice in the spring of 2000. In honor of his father who had dedicated his life as a servant for the underserved, in July 2006, Dr. Murray opened The Acres Heart and Vascular Heart Institute in Houston, Texas. The institute is located in an area known as Acres Homes. It is a 14 square mile community in Harris County. The demographics from this community show that it has the highest incidences of cardiovascular disease, peripheral vascular disease, loss of limb, and morbidity and mortality in the county due to underlying vascular pathology and low socio-economic status. Many of the patients have to choose between purchasing food or medicine.
Dr. Murray also opened and developed the Interventional Cardiology Division for performing off-site balloon angioplasty procedures for Doctors Hospital in Houston, Texas. He has performed more than one hundred interventional revascularization procedures for both coronary and peripheral arterial disease at Doctors Hospital without having a single patient transfer due to a major complication. Dr. Murray travels twice monthly to care for the citizens of Acres Homes. The cost to maintain that practice exceeds any collection. Nonetheless, Dr. Murray is still dedicated to the clinic and remains relentless in his support due to his love for that community.
In May 2009, Dr. Murray became Michael Jackson’s personal physician.

http://houstoncriminallaw-pressroom.com/biographical-information-%E2%80%93-dr-conrad-murray/

@Bernarda: Das ist ganz einfach, die URL oben kopieren (Rechtsklick / "kopieren" auswählen) und hier wieder einfügen (Rechtsklick / "einfügen" auswählen).

[tinamj]

Danke - aber das ist kein Lebenslauf, das ist eine Werbebroschüre

ich hab mich vielleicht auch falsch ausgedrückt. Ich hätte einfach erwartet, dass nach dem 25.06. zig Wegbegleiter, Freunde, sog. Freunde, Bekannte, die Kiosktante von nebenan, die Patienten, Familie, Studienkollegen, Arbeitskollegen mit wachsender Begeisterung ihre mehr oder weniger qualifizierte Meinung über CM abgeben. Aber er ist und bleibt einfach ein Phantom

[Engel1]

Aber er ist und bleibt einfach ein Phantom !

Sorry fürs OT,aber vergiss nicht den Onkel von Murray,der gesprochen hat:-))))Nur dumm das wir erkannt haben,das es der Doc.selber war,nur ein bischen am Bild rumgewuselt und schon ist es der Onkel:-)))Sie mussten
ja irgendwann mal jemanden aus seiner Familie zeigen,da sich schon
viele darüber gewundert haben:-)))Auch seine 7.Kinder,die er ja angeblich
haben soll,hat man auch noch nirgends entdeckt.....oh,die Zahl 7.da war doch was*lol*

[Rain]

Ich hätte einfach erwartet, dass nach dem 25.06. zig Wegbegleiter, Freunde, sog. Freunde, Bekannte, die Kiosktante von nebenan, die Patienten, Familie, Studienkollegen, Arbeitskollegen mit wachsender Begeisterung ihre mehr oder weniger qualifizierte Meinung über CM abgeben. Aber er ist und bleibt einfach ein Phantom

Ja - ich würde auch eigentlich jede Menge Infos erwarten, die kein Mensch braucht - hier hat CM eingekauft, hier ging CM zum Sport, hier trank er vor der Arbeit immer einen Kaffee, hier war er neulich im Kino, blah blah. Halt diese ganzen Sachen, die die Presse normalerweise so auskramt. Aber nix.

[ANGEL-OF-PEACE]

Umso mehr man über Murray forscht, desto wirrer wird man im Kopf.

Habe diesen Artikel gefunden:

Adding a surprising twist to the Michael Jackson homicide investigation Dr. Conrad Murray’s attorney Michael Flanagan tells RadarOnline.com exclusively that his client made a mistake when he was initially interviewed by the LAPD following Michael Jackson’s death in June 2009.

Dr. Conrad Murray Pleads Not Guilty – Bail Set At $75k

"Dr. Murray's timeline of events that day when Michael Jackson died is wrong,” Flanagan says. “Doctors make mistakes, and that is what he did, and it was simply just that, a mistake.”

Dr. Murray changing the story that he initially told police in the aftermath of Jackson’s death is a significant event for both the prosecution and the defense.

According to police reports Dr. Murray initially told the LAPD that he administered the powerful sedative Propofol to Jackson at 10.50am, and that he then left Jackson alone for two minutes to go to the bathroom. Murray then went on to say that when he returned to Jackson’s room he wasn’t breathing and this is when he began CPR.

PHOTOS: Dr. Conrad Murray Arrives At Court

However, the 911 call wasn’t actually made until 12.21 pm, considerably after Murray stated that he had discovered Jackson in distress and started CPR. In addition, a voicemail message was released Monday that Murray reportedly made at 11.54 am to another patient of his, Bob Russell. In the voicemail Murray sounds calm and collected as he informs his patient about the results of a heart scan. That’s a situation that seems incredible if Murray had in fact been performing CPR on Jackson for approximately an hour before the call.

AUDIO: Listen To Dr. Murray's Message To Bob Russell

But now Flanagan says that Murray was wrong about the timing of events. He would not, however, get more specific about when Murray found Jackson in distress.

PHOTOS: The Jackson Family Arrive At Court

The timeline of events surrounding the death of Jackson will most likely be central to the criminal case against Dr. Murray. Some reports say that both the defense and the prosecution plan to use the newly surfaced voicemail as a centerpiece to their case. Murray’s legal team aims to discredit cops' initial interviews with their client in a bid to convince a jury that they bungled the situation, according to some sources.

VIDEO: Crowd Shouts “Murderer” As Dr. Murray Arrives At Court

But Flanagan, who still hasn't received formal discovery from the prosecutors, and hasn't heard the official voicemail <http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2010/02/exclusive-interview-michael-jacksons-dr-got-timeline-wrong-says-lawyer> message that Dr. Murray left for Bob Russell, says that he believes his client simply made a mistake when it came to the timeline that fateful day. "Dr. Murray's timeline was wrong," he told RadarOnline.com, adding that he also believes there is another phone call that has not been uncovered. And that other voicemail is reportedly a phone call between Murray and his girlfriend in Houston, shortly after noon. 911 was called at 12:21.

So if Murray did administer Propofol to Jackson at 10:50 am as he initially told police, it would be natural for cops to assume he did not come back and check on Jackson until several minutes after mid-day, when he rushed off the phone to go to Jackson’s aide. That would mean he most likely left Jackson alone for approximately 73 minutes – not two minutes as he claimed -- after administering Propofol, which would be extremely damaging to his defense. Murray’s calm phone call to a patient at 11:54 am would fit a police theory that he did not check on Jackson after administering Propofol.

Now, with Flanagan saying Murray was wrong about the timeline, it favorably (for Murray) explains why he was calm during the call to his patient and does not make it look like the doctor left Jackson alone for a long time after administering Propofol.
http://www.radaronline.com/category/tags/propofol

Wusstet Ihr, dass 1957 in USA eine Serie lief Namens "Conrad Murray"?

Merkwürdig, merkwürdig...

http://www.tv4u.com/show-large-video.asp?cid=12&sid=663&vid=1753&t=The%20Conrad%20Murray%20Case&cat=Drama

[Engel1]

Ja,das wusste ich....da geht es um einen "scheinbar Schuldigen"wie passend:-)))

Das hatte ich mal gepostet,aber da wurde ich als verrückt hingestellt

The court of Last Resort....the Conrad Murray case!Da gehts um Gerichtsverhandlungen,etc....da gabs mehrere Folgen von

The Court Of Last Resort
"The Court of Last Resort was founded by Erle Stanley Gardner in the 1950s. The team sought to reveal whether someone already found guilty might really be innocent. The show dramatized the original crime then followed the investigation. Actual cases were used "
The show was about a team of investigators visiting old cases in which people where found guilty and sent to jail, to try and prove them innocent.

One of the episodes happened to be tittled "The Conrad Murray Case"
and the actor who played Conrad Murray was in a TV show called "Thriller"
and anouther one called "This Is It".


After serving many years in prison for a double murder, Murray has
through his own efforts become an expert electrical engineer. Using this
knowledge he improves the prison's electrical system, saving the
taxpayers a fortune. The Court of Last Resort champions Murray as a completely
rehabilitated criminal and is in favor of granting him the parole thus
far denied him. [RF]
Synopsis 2:
Conrad Murray is up for parole after 34 years as an exemplary prisoner. [RF]

[ANGEL-OF-PEACE]

Hier noch eine Biographie.

Dr. Conrad Murray Biography
Cardiologist, personal physician. Born Conrad Robert Murray on February 19, 1953, in St. Andrews, Grenada.
The man who would become embroiled in the controversy surrounding the King of Pop's death in June 2009 did not come from money. With his mother Milta spending most of her time in Trinidad and Tobago in search of better paying work, Murray lived with his maternal grandparents, two Grenadian farmers. His fractured family life was compounded by the total absence of his father, Rawle Andrews, a Houston area physician who, up until his death in 2001, focused his career on offering medical services to the poor. Conrad didn't meet his dad until he was 25.
At the age of seven, Murray relocated to Trinidad and Tobago to live with his mother, where he became a citizen and finished high school. Like Milta, Murray was determined to make a better life for himself, demonstrating at an early age a propensity to work hard. After high school he volunteered as an elementary school teacher in Trinidad, an experience he followed with work as a customs clerk and an insurance underwriter in order to pay for his college education. Murray also wasn't afraid to take advantage of an opportunity. At the age of 19 he bought his first house, then later sold it for a decent profit to support his university tuition in the United States.
In 1980, two years after first visiting Houston and getting a chance to introduce himself to his father, Conrad Murray returned to Texas to enroll at Texas Southern University, where in just three years he graduated magna cum laude with a degree in pre-medicine and biological sciences. From there, Murray followed in his father's footsteps and attended the primarily African-American Meharry Medical College in Nashville, Tennessee.
Upon graduating Maharre, Murray enrolled for additional training at the Mayo Clinic in Minnesota and then completed his residency at Loma Linda University Medical Center in California. Other training stints followed; he studied at the University of Arizona on a Cardiology Fellowship, and landed back in California, where he eventually worked as the associate director for the interventional cardiology fellowship-training program at Sharp Memorial Hospital in San Diego.
In 1999, Dr. Murray left California for a second time and struck out on his own, opening up a private practice in Las Vegas. Locating his office just east of the strip, Murray—again taking a cue from his father—aimed to serve not just the city's wealthy, but its underserved as well. In 2006, Murray expanded his scope and returned to the city where his father had made a name for himself to open the Acres Homes Heart and Vascular Institute.
"We have been so lucky to have Dr. Murray and that clinic in this community," Houston patient Ruby Mosley told People magazine. "There are many, many patients that thank God this man was here for them."
Those who've had financial dealings with the doctor, however, might feel otherwise. Unpaid debts, lawsuits, and tax liens have followed Dr. Murray's life. More than $400,000 in court judgments alone were issued against his Las Vegas practice, and in December 2008 Dr. Murray, who has an unknown number of children, was ordered to cough up $3,700 in unpaid child support
In fact, it was Dr. Murray's debt situation that set the stage for his working relationship with Michael Jackson. The two men had first met in 2006 when the singer, a frequent Vegas visitor, had contacted Dr. Murray about treating one of his children for an unknown medical situation. Reports indicate that the two men soon became friends and, as Jackson began making plans for his upcoming 2009 concert tour, he hired Dr. Murray to be his personal physician for an astounding $150,000 a month.
Jackson's motivation to bring Murray aboard, though, may have had less to do with friendship and more to do with the singer's own complicated reliance on prescription medicine. Following Jackson's death, police discovered more than 20 prescriptions inside his rented Holmby Hills home, including methadone, fentanyl, percocet, dilaudid, and vicodin.
By all accounts, Jackson had become an insomniac and had pushed for the use of propofol, an anesthetic, to help him rest. Along with a mix of other drugs Jackson used to go to bed, he often referred to the concoction as his "milk" or "liquid sleep." But it was propofol he seems to have had a particular fondness for. Cherilyn Lee, a registered nurse and nutritionist whom Jackson employed, told ABC News that the singer begged her to buy more of the drug for him. She refused.
"The problem with you telling me you want to be knocked out," Lee said she told him, is "you might not wake up the next morning. You don't want that."
Dr. Murray, however, was another matter. While court documents showed he never actually purchased the drug for Jackson, over the course of the six weeks he worked for him, the doctor administered a nightly intravenous drip of propofol—despite his concerns that Jackson may be addicted to the drug.
That was the case on June 25, 2009, when Jackson, exhausted from a long rehearsal session at the Staples Center in Los Angeles that went past midnight, returned home and tried to get some rest. A familiar routine followed, with Murray hooking up his client to an IV in order to administer the propofol. Dr. Murray also gave Jackson lorazepam, an anti-anxiety medicine, and midazolam, a muscle relaxant.
According to records, the doctor then left Jackson's side for a few minutes to go to the bathroom. When he returned he found the singer with a weak pulse and had stopped breathing. Reportedly, Murray immediately started applying CPR to revive the singer. In addition, in what has garnered plenty of controversy, Dr. Murray also administered another drug, flumazenil, to try to offset the sedatives already circulating in Jackson's body. Some experts have said Murray's use of this additional medicine may have actually exasperated the problems propofol had caused.
While questions remain about Dr. Murray's work to try and save Jackson's life in those first harried moments, what is clear is that 82 minutes passed before the doctor or anyone else at Jackson's home called paramedics to the house. When emergency officials did finally arrive, Dr. Murray at first failed to tell them about the drugs he injected into the singer. Jackson was officially pronounced dead at Ronald Reagan UCLA Medical Center, where he had arrived via ambulance with Dr. Murray at his side
In the months that followed the pop star's death, Conrad Murray's working relationship with the singer became not only the target of irate and shocked Jackson fans, but police investigators as well. In mid August more than two dozen DEA agents, LA police detectives, and Houston officers raided the doctor's Houston medical office to take a forensic image of Murray's computer and collect a myriad of medical documents.
Around that same time, news reports indicated that Dr. Murray was soon going to be charged with manslaughter, something that was heightened on August 24, 2009, when preliminary findings by the chief coroner for Los Angeles county revealed that Jackson had died as the result of lethal levels of propofol.
For his part, Dr. Murray has said little about his work with Michael Jackson and the circumstances surrounding the singer's death, confining his remarks to a teary-eyed video he posted on YouTube. "I have done all I can do [to help the police]," Dr Murray tells the camera. "I told the truth, and I have faith the truth will prevail."

http://www.biography.com/articles/Dr.-Conrad-Murray-481814

[Bernarda]

Also kann es so gewesen sein: Dr. Murray gibt MJ das Propofol (10.50 Uhr), geht aus dem Zimmer und telefoniert fast eine Stunde, kommt zurück zu MJ, und findet ihn ohne Atmung vor (mit schwachem Puls? Glaub ich nicht.), also, er findet ihn tot.

Die weiten, lichtstarren Pupillen, die er geprüft haben wird, müssen ihm klargemacht haben, daß der Atemstillstand schon vor längerer Zeit eingetreten ist und somit eine Reanimation wenig Aussicht auf Erfolg hat.
Trotzdem versucht er natürlich die Reanimation, erfolglos.
Dann der Notruf und alles Weitere, was bekannt und durch Dritte belegt ist.

So kann es gewesen sein.

Propofol injizieren und den Patienten dann 1 ! Stunde allein lassen? Das gibt's doch nicht.


Der Prozeß wird hier Aufklärung bringen, wenn alle Fakten auf dem Tisch liegen (hoffentlich).

Bernarda

[Bridge]

Was Murray macht bzw. früher gemacht hat, wieviele Kinder er hat usw. interessiert mich nicht im geringsten. Da können sie berichten, was sie wollen, ich lese mir das gar nicht durch. Ich will nur, dass er eine gerechte Strafe für seine schreckliche Tat bekommt.

Ich hatte es ja schon einmal geschrieben, Murray hat es faustdick hinter den Ohren. Ich glaube kein Wort von dem, was er sagt. Er wird nie die Wahrheit sagen. Wer weiß, was an diesem Tag alles passiert ist. Es ist eine Tragödie.

[Corina]

Bridge

Was Murray macht bzw. früher gemacht hat, wieviele Kinder er hat usw. interessiert mich nicht im geringsten. Da können sie berichten, was sie wollen, ich lese mir das gar nicht durch. Ich will nur, dass er eine gerechte Strafe für seine schreckliche Tat bekommt.

Ich hatte es ja schon einmal geschrieben, Murray hat es faustdick hinter den Ohren. Ich glaube kein Wort von dem, was er sagt. Er wird nie die Wahrheit sagen. Wer weiß, was an diesem Tag alles passiert ist. Es ist eine Tragödie.
__________________

So sehe ich das auch. Wer weis was er noch alles zu verbergen hat.Der schwindelt denen bestimmt die Hucke voll.

[ANGEL-OF-PEACE]

@Bernarda, es kann durchaus so gewesen sein, wie Du es beschrieben hast. In der Zwischenzeit habe ich im anderen Murray-Thread (fahrlässige Tötung) gelesen. Auch dort interessante Thesen. Auch ein merkwürdiges Telefonat von Murray ist hören. Ja, hoffen wir mal, dass der Prozess uns Aufklärung bringen möge.

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@Engel1, während dem Lesen im anderen Thread, habe ich festgestellt, dass wir beide gleichzeitig in gleicher Richtung am Ermitteln waren. Auch Du hast dort den gleichen Link gepostet, wie ich hier.
Merkwürdig finde ich allein diesen Namen "Conrad Murray", der ausgerechnet in einer Filmserie vorkam (The Conrad Murray Case). Merkwürdig, merkwürdig... Vielleicht ist unser Conrad Murray in Wahrheit ein Schauspieler...(?)..

Da Du die Telefonate von Murray aufgestöbert hast, wäre ich Dir persönlich sehr dankbar, wenn Du sie alle in einem Posting zusammentragen könntest, damit wir Unterschiede besser heraushören können. Danke schon mal.

[Engel1]

kann ich gerne machen,aber es ist ja nur das eine Telefonat!

http://www.twitvid.com/79F0E

und zum Vergleich eben das Video!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2jnVYE01BA