K. Jackson-Klage gegen AEG- Der Prozess- Nur News -Keine Diskussion

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E-Mail die bei Payne-Aussage gezeigt wurde (Aus ABC-Tweets)

An e-mail written by "This Is It" band director Michael Bearden to Ortega 11 days before Jackson's death was displayed in court.
Ein-E-Mail von This ist it band dirketor Michael Bearden an Ortega 11 Tag vor seinen Tod wurde im Gerichtssaal gezeigt.
"MJ is not in shape enough yet to sing this stuff live and dance at the same time," Bearden wrote. "He can use the ballads to sing live and get his stamina back up, Once he's healthy enough and have more strength I have full confidence he can sing the majority of the show live. His voice sounds amazing right now, he needs to build it back up. I still need all big dance numbers to be in the system so we can concentrate on choreography."

E-Mail von Michael Bearden an K. Ortega 11 Tage vor Michaels Tod:
"MJ ist noch nicht in Form genug um gleichzeitig zu singen und zu tanzen, schrieb Bearden. "Er kan die Balladen live singen und seine Ausdauer wieder aufbauen. Sobald er gesund genug ist und mehr Stärke hat, habe ich volles Vertrauen dass er die Mehrheit der Show live singen kann. Seine Stimme klingt wunderbar jetzt, er muss es wieder aufbauen. Ich benötige alle großen Tanznummern im System, so dass wir uns auf die Choreographie konzentrieren können"


Bina shows an email from Ortega to Gongaware on Jun 14: "We're you aware that MJ's doctor didn't permit him to attend rehearsal yesterday?"
"Are Randy and Frank aware of this? Please have them stay on top of his health situation."
"Without invading MJ's privacy, it might be good idea to talk to his doctor to make sure everything MJ requires is in place
"Who is responsible for MJ getting proper nourishment/vitamins/therapy everyday?"
"Personally, I feel he should have a top Nutritionist and Physical Therapist working with him on a regular basis."
"The demand in this guy are mentally and physically extraordinary! The show requirements exhaust our 20 year olds."
"Please don't underestimate the need to stay on top of this."

E-Mail von Ortega an Gongoware am 14. Juni:
Wusstest Du, dass MJS Arzt ihm gestern nicht erlaubte an den Proben teilzunehmen? Wissen Randy und Frank das? Bitte, lass sie immer über seine Gesundheits-Situation im Bilde sein. Ohne in MJS Privatleben einzudringen, ist es vielleicht eine gute Idee mit seinem Arzt zu sprechen, um sicher zu gehen, dass alles wonach MJ fragt da ist.
Wer ist verantwortlich dafür, dass MJ täglich angemessene Ernährung,Vitamine,Therapie bekommt?
Persönlich denke ich, wir sollten einen Top -Ernährungsberater und Physiotherapeut haben, um regelmässig mit ihm zu arbeiten.
Die Anforderungen an den Mann sind mental und körperlich aussergewöhnlich! Die Show erschöpft unsere 20-Jährigen.
Bitte bewertet es nicht unter, da dran zu bleiben“

[rip.michael]

Jacksons vs AEG - Day 10 - May 13 2013- Summary

Katherine and Rebbie Jackson are in the courtroom.

Stacy Walker and Travis Payne – witnesses for AEG- are testifying out of order as they will be leaving for Japan for work.

Stacy Walker Testimony

AEG direct

AEG attorney Bina is doing the direct examination.

Stacy Walker was the Associate Choreographer for "This Is It" tour. She's choreographer, director. Worked w/ MJ, Gaga, B. Spears, Usher, others. Stacy Walker said she 1st worked w/ MJ in 96 on a 40-minute movie, "Ghost." "He never made a music video, only made movies," Walker said. On the "History" tour, Walker worked about 6 months. She was one of the two girl dancer in The Way You Make Me Feel. "I feel it's my song" (ABC7). Walker had worked as a dancer on Jackson's 40-minute video "Ghost" in the mid-1990s, a job that she said was the big break of her career, and toured with him. (LATimes)

History tour: dancers rehearsed by themselves in LA. Then went to France, rehearsed in a studio at Disneyland. MJ showed up one or two times. Walker didn't remember if MJ had doctor on staff while on History tour. She never saw any signs of drug abuse, saw MJ on stage, amazing! (ABC7)

Walker told the jury Travis Payne was the main choreographer for "This Is It." She thinks she was an independent contractor hired by AEG. Walker said the casting of dancers began in April 2009. She was the associated choreographer, got direction from Payne/Ortega and Michael. (ABC7)

Walker said for the "This is It" tour a lot of choreography was done many years ago. The only new was "Drill" and everyone worked together. Drill" was like a soldier marching dancing, Walker said. "MJ said we can't use guns, since it was not good for the kids," Walker recalled.(ABC7)

Walker said during rehearsals for "This Is It" in April/May 09, MJ was there occasionally, but they were teaching dancers the choreography (ABC7)

During rehearsals at the Forum, MJ was supposed to be there more often, Walker said. Payne worked w/ MJ, she was in charge of dancers.(ABC7)

Walker: "I can remember being frustrated at times, he (MJ) wasn't coming when we were hoping he would." (ABC7)

"I wasn't shocked he wasn't coming, I was irritated, but I wasn't shocked," Walker said, noting that maybe MJ wanted to stay with his kids (ABC7). She said she wasn't "shocked" Jackson was missing rehearsals. "I was irritated he wasn’t coming.”(LATimes)

Walker said she never saw MJ sick. She said he seemed normal to her, he was much thinner, but she never felt he was acting intoxicated. (ABC7)

"He looked much thinner to me than in 97," she said, but she doesn't remember noticing a dramatic difference between April and June of 09. (ABC7) Walker also testified that Jackson was much skinnier than he had been when she had worked with him previously. (LATimes)

Walker: I remember 1 night he excused himself to his room, wasn't feeling well. He didn't say anything, it was a general understanding (ABC7)

Walker remembered MJ wearing jackets/layers but didn't think of him being insanely cold. "Different artists like different temperature." Walker: He wore a lot of jackets, I assumed he was cold but he never said anything. I never saw him shivering. He just wore a lot of jackets (ABC7)

Walker said she attributed Jackson's multilayered wardrobe to a personal preference. She said she recalled one incident in which Jackson may have appeared groggy or drugged, but she said she couldn't remember whether she witnessed or heard about it from others on the show. (AP)

Jessica Bina: Did you ever see MJ drink any alcohol?
Walker: No (ABC7)

"My only concern was that he was really thin and I wish he ate more," Walker recalled. (ABC7)

Walker got emotional when she said she wasn't looking for things that could be wrong w/ MJ at the time. "I wish I was," she said. (ABC7)

Walker said she never saw any of shivering and appeared unprepared, although she acknowledged that her job was to work with other dancers and not Jackson directly. "I wasn't looking for things at the time," she said. "I wish I was." (AP)

When she talked about MJ's last two rehearsals, Walker cried saying he was great. "He was great, I finally saw what I wanted to see." "He was great, very bratty and sassy as he was. He was just a funny guy at times," Walker said. (ABC7)

Walker testified she was frustrated the singer was missing rehearsals but that her concerns were swept away during the last two preparation sessions for his anticipated “This Is It” comeback concerts in London. (LATimes)

“I finally saw what I was looking to see,” said Stacy Walker. (LATimes)

Walker said she called her mom after the rehearsal and asked her to buy a ticket for the opening and she did. "It was great." (ABC7) Walker said she was so encouraged she told her mother to buy a ticket for opening night in London. "I was very excited and relieved and hopeful,” she testified. (LATimes)

Bina: Any doubts he could perform the tour?
Walker: Not after those two nights (June 23 and 24) (ABC7)

She said despite Jackson missing multiple rehearsals, she was convinced based on his performances the last two days of his life that he was ready for the series of shows.(AP)

On Jun 25, Walker was rehearsing Michael's disappearing act. She said Payne called saying he heard on the radio MJ was in the hospital. Walker: "I remember telling them don't worry, everything will be fine. I didn't believe, I thought that everything was going to be ok." (ABC7)

Bina: when you heard MJ passed away, were you surprised?
Walker: Yes, it was shocking, 12 hours ago he did "Beat It" and "Thriller" (ABC7)

When asked if Walker was familiar with the name Dr. Conrad Murray, she said yes, but she never met him or knew who he was prior to June 25. (ABC7)

Travis Payne had a loving, trusting relationship with MJ, Walker testified. Payne would go over to MJ's house around 1PM PT to work (AP) Walker was associate choreographer on "This Is It," working mainly with the dancers. Choreographer Travis Payne, she said, would often rehearse with Jackson in another room or at his rented mansion. (LATimes)

Walker said she felt MJ was more open this time around. In "Ghost" she said they didn't talk at all, but that he was so nice to everybody. Walker said she remembers telling MJ about McDonald's -- he had never been and she told him he had to go. (ABC7)

Regarding the "This Is It" tour, Walker doesn't know if MJ was excited. "He always seemed happy, he liked to watch the dancers dance" (ABC7)

Walker said MJ was the nicest person ever, they were not friends. "Guarded is a strong word, he let people see Michael Jackson, not Michael" (ABC7)

"I just never in a million years thought he'd leave us," Walker said crying. "I was frustrated but never thought that would happen" (ABC7) Walker: "I just never in a million years thought he would leave us, or pass away. It just never crossed my mind." (AP)

Walker didn't remember MJ having cold/stomach flu. "I've seen people that were drunk or high and he didn't appear to be that way" (ABC7)

Jackson cross

Planitffs attorney Kevin Boyle did the cross examination. Boyle asked Walker if her job was to focus on dancers and not MJ. She said yes.

Boyle: And it wasn't your job to look if MJ was sick?
Walker: It was not (ABC7)

She also agreed that it wasn't her job 2 supervise Dr. Murray or observe MJ's health. Walker didn't have info if Dr. Murray gave MJ Propofol (ABC7)

Walker: I was relieved because he was there, he was going full out. Last 2 rehearsals it was the first time we saw everything come together (ABC7)

Boyle plays clip of film "Ghost". Walker said MJ was pretty impressive, played 5 different roles. "Probably one of the hardest jobs I had." "He was a huge risk taker, was very innovative as a dancer and choreographer," Walker opined, saying he was an excellent dancer, confident (ABC7)

Walker said MJ and her were not friends, they had a work relationship. Walker never went to his house, had dinner or social interaction. MJ never told Walker about his health, never discussed Propofol use since they didn't talk about that stuff. (ABC7)

Boyle: Did you ever see MJ covered in blankets watching rehearsal with heaters?
Walker: I never saw heaters or blankets (ABC7)

Walker heard MJ had problems with prescription drugs from the press. She also heard about the sleeping problems. Walker said she knew Ortega kept on Michael about eating and thinks they had a massage therapist come in for him.(ABC7)

"I've seen other artists bring chefs, masseuses, trainers sometimes," Walker said. The idea of bringing a doctor on tour didn't surprise her (ABC7)

Walker: MJ didn't want to change the choreography, it wasn't broken, so why change it? She thought it was going to be a great show. (ABC7)

“Did Mr. Phillips ever tell you he instructed Mr. Gongaware in writing to take out footage that (made Jackson) look like a skeleton?” lawyer Kevin Boyle asked choreographer Stacy Walker.

“He didn’t tell me that,” Walker replied. (NYDailyNews)



Christopher Rogers Testimony

Jackson direct

Dr. Christopher Rogers, a deputy medical examiner, began testifying last week, but was interrupted to take other witnesses.(AP)

Rogers testifies that he found no conditions during Michael Jackson’s autopsy that would affect his long-term survival.(AP) Death was not due to trauma and was not caused by natural disease. "He died of acute Propofol toxicity," Dr. Rogers said.(ABC7)

Koskoff: did you find any factors that could impact MJ's long-term survival?
Dr. Rogers: From the autopsy, no I did not.(ABC7)

AEG cross

AEG lawyer Kathryn Cahan did the bulk of the afternoon questioning of Rogers. She focused on prescription drug aspect of Jackson’s death. In response to a Cahan question, Rogers says Jackson’s death was considered a polypharmacy death. That means it involved multiple drugs. Rogers noted that propofol was the main drug that killed Jackson, but told jury that other drugs (benzodiazepines) were present. (AP)

Dr. Rogers said MJ's doctor, Dr. Murray, made a statement to the police saying MJ wasn't breathing but he felt a faint pulse.(ABC7)

Cahan also asked Dr. Rogers whether he knew about other doctors treating Jackson before his death. Rogers says yes. Rogers says he became aware that dermatologist Arnold Klein was treating Jackson.(AP) Dr. Rogers said he was uncertain who MJ's primary physician was, he understood he was seeing several doctors.(ABC7)

Cahan also asked whether he ever concluded that any other doctors contributed to Jackson’s death. “I don’t believe so,” Roger said. (AP) (Note: there have been conflicting reports about this AP say they checked the transcripts and their version is correct).

Cahan also asks about Jackson’s weight at the time of his death. He weighed 136 pounds, with a Body Mass Index of 20.1, Rogers tells jury. Rogers testified that Michael Jackson’s Body Mass Index was within the normal range. A BMI figure below 18.5 would be underweight. (AP) At the autopsy, Dr. Rogers said MJ weighed 136 lbs, was 5'9. His body mass index was 20.1, which is within the range of normal weight. (ABC7)

“He looked thin in comparison to most people,” Rogers said. He says Jackson did not appear emaciated. Says singer didn't appear emaciated. Dr. Rogers said Jackson’s body didn’t have characteristics of someone who starved to death. Rogers said Jackson’s health appeared excellent. (AP) "He looked thin in comparison to most people," Dr. Rogers said. MJ didnt look one who died from starvation or anorexia. (ABC7)

Roges testified that Jackson was not underweight when he died and appeared to be in excellent health. Despite testimony from some witnesses that Jackson appeared emaciated, Dr. Christopher Rogers said the singer did not bear the signs of someone who was starving when he died.(AP)

Cahan: Did you rule out starvation as possible Mr. Jackson's cause of death?
Dr. Rogers: Yes (ABC7)

Cahan: Was his general health excellent?
Dr. Rogers: As far as the autopsy goes, yes(ABC7)

There was more testimony about the condition of Jackson’s lungs, which were damaged in a way that might lead to pneumonia or other problems.(AP) Autopsy report: MJ had lung damage, which wasn't cause of death but made this individual especially susceptible to adverse health effects.(ABC7)

Dr. Rogers said MJ had a bit of degeneration of the lower thoracic spine, degenerative osteoarthritis of lower lumbar. Not sure how painful(ABC7)

Rogers testified he was interested in role of prescription drugs in Jackson’s death based on finding propofol and other meds at the scene.(AP) Dr. Rogers said he had some concerns about drug abuse due to the investigator's report listing all the medications found at the house. Dr. Rogers said he didn't find any opiates, opioids, Demerol in MJ's body. He had 1 other case of Propofol overdose, person in medical field (ABC7). Dr. Rogers testified that propofol shouldn’t be given in a home setting, and when someone is sedated they need to be continuously monitored. Rogers said he’s only worked one other propofol overdose case. That person was a medical professional, he said. (AP) He also said that Jackson was only the second coroner’s case he had worked on in which the person had died of propofol toxicity. The other person worked in the medical field, he said. (LATimes)

Propofol, he said, “caused his death by sedation. “Essentially, he was so sedated his vital functions stopped.”(LAtimes)

Jackson re-direct

Plaintiff’s attorney Michael Koskoff asks Rogers about whether hospital treatments might have added weight to Jackson’s body. Koskoff doesn’t state how much weight might have been added to Jackson based on IV treatments by paramedics, hospital staff. (AP) under questioning by Jackson attorney Michael Koskoff, Rogers said that by the time the pop star was weighed, intravenous fluids had been administered to him in the ambulance and at Ronald Reagan UCLA Medical Center, which could have increased his weight. (LATimes)

Rogers did say that Jackson’s body had some fat, but that most of his weight appeared to be in the singer’s muscles.(AP) Rogers testified that Jackson didn’t have much fat on him. (LAtimes)

"I don't know what his normal weight would be," Dr. Rogers expressed. He said MJ didn't have a great deal of fat, but there was some(ABC7)



Travis Payne Testimony

AEG direct

Travis Payne took the witness stand and began explaining his experience. (AP) Payne worked with Paula Abdul, Brandy, Diana Ross, Mick Jagger, Marilyn Manson, MJ, among others.(ABC7)

He tells the jury about working on tours, music videos, video games. Travis Payne worked on the “Michael Jackson Experience” video game. In the game, he taught players Jackson’s dance moves. Payne first worked with Jackson on the “Remember the Time” film/music video. He was a dancer in the film. Many witnesses have told jury that Jackson called his music videos films. Jackson treated them more like films than videos, they’ve said. He then worked as a dancer and choreographer on Jackson’s “Dangerous” tour. By that point, he’d developed a rapport with Jackson. He helped choreograph moves for Jackson’s song “Dangerous” and “Jam” on the “Dangerous” tour, Payne testified. Payne says it was goal since being a child to be a dancer and work with Michael Jackson. The “Dangerous” tour was realization of that dream. “On the “Dangerous” tour at that tour, I was really very ecstatic. I was working with my idol,” choreographer Travis Payne, on Jackson.(AP) During "Dangerous" relationship with MJ grew. Payne said all he knew pain was an ongoing issue for MJ since the Pepsi commercial accident (ABC7)

Payne worked with MJ in "Ghost" in 1995/96, then "History" tour, other tv shows and commercials and culminated with "This Is It."(ABC7)

On the “HIStory” tour, Payne said Jackson rehearsed both with and without his backup dancers.(AP) Rehearsals for "History" tour was very extensive, Payne said. He was involved w/ selecting dancers, ideas for costumes and whatever needed. Payne said MJ rehearsed with the dancers and separately. Dancers would get up to speed in the beginning, MJ was good at giving space 2 learn (AbC7)

Travis Payne also worked with Jackson on “One Night Only” show that was canceled after incident in which Jackson fainted on stage. (AP) Payne worked with MJ in the "One Night Only" show, one time performance by MJ and dancers in New York. The show never happened. Payne: Michael had an incident, appeared to faint, we were asked to leave the theater and were told later the show was not going to happen(ABC7)

Payne worked privately with Jackson on “This Is It” rehearsals. He says he didn’t see any signs of drug abuse by Jackson at this time. (AP)

Payne says dermatologist Dr. Arnold Klein and nurse Debbie Rowe were only medical professionals of Jackson’s that he met.(AP) Payne said he knew there were physicians tending to MJ, only ones Payne personally met were Dr. Klein and Debbie Rowe. (ABC7)

The choreographer also testifies that he never saw Jackson drink alcohol or take any medications. He says he saw no signs of addiction.(AP) Payne said he never saw MJ take drugs, medication or alcohol. "Nothing." (ABC7)

Payne said he worked with Kenny Ortega for many years. Payne and Ortega were in Vegas when MJ called Ortega asking to work in new project. Payne didn't personally meet with MJ until after the press conference announcement. He said he was excited to work with him again. (ABC7)

After mid-afternoon break, Payne resumed testifying about how he came to work with Jackson on “This Is It” preparations. “I believe he missed performing. I believe he missed direct contact with his fans,” Travis Payne says about why Jackson wanted to tour. (AP)

Payne said he knew MJ was excited about the tour and his children, to share this experience with them. Payne met w/ MJ in late March/2009.(ABC7)

"He looked fine to me health wise, I thought he was thinner from what I have seen him in the past, but nothing alarming," Payne recalled.(ABC7)

Payne said he found out that his role would not include dancing, he would choreograph and would be the associate director in "This Is It"(ABC7) Travis Payne served as an associate director for the “This Is It” shows. He wouldn't be dancing in the concerts, he said. Payne testified “This Is It” would be different from Jackson’s previous tours. AEG would be a partner, not a sponsor. The choreographer said Jackson explained to him that having AEG would be a good thing for the “This Is It” shows. (AP) "This is It" was a partnership with AEG. Payne said this new way of doing business would revolutionize the way tours were done.(ABC7)

Payne attended an April meeting at Michael Jackson’s home. Said he saw no signs of impairment, drug abuse by the singer.(AP)

Payne, who rehearsed one-on-one with Jackson and helped craft the creative vision for the show, said he never saw signs that Jackson was ill or impaired in early preparations."I thought he was thinner than he was in the past, but I didn't have any reason to be alarmed," Payne said. (AP)

Payne also testified that Jackson was involved in almost every detail of his scheduled shows, such as costume, wardrobe and set design, choosing the dancers and the bandleader. (LATimes) Payne: Everything started with Mr. Jackson, always. As his support team, we would contribute with ideas. MJ had the final word.(ABC7)

They auditioned 5,000 dancers, MJ chose the final ones. Payne said MJ chose the band director also.(ABC7)

Payne spent several minutes describing details of the “This Is It” show, including a torch and costume that would light up. Jackson wanted a torch in the Italian Baroque design. Actually, he wanted two, in case one broke, Payne tells jury. Payne also shown an email in which he described a costume for “Billie Jean” in which the clothing material would light up. When Payne was describing the illuminated “Billie Jean” costume, he looked out into the audience and nodded at Katherine Jackson. (AP) Bina shows an email Payne wrote. It said MJ was very persistent about having a torch, a concept that meant a lot to Michael.(ABC7)

Payne was then asked about his one-on-one rehearsals with Jackson at the singer’s home. These were scheduled for 5 days a week.(AP) Payne said they started rehearsing after the press conference, and stopped the day before MJ died. He spoke with MJ every day. MJ told Payne he expected him to be in every show. He wanted Payne to take notes to make sure show was as perfect as possible. "Customarily, we would see each other every day," Payne said. Rehearsal with MJ was scheduled five days a week.(ABC7)

He also ate lunch with Jackson on many days. He said MJ’s appetite depended on the day. (AP &ABC7) Payne, however, worked with Jackson individually almost every day for the last three months of the singer's life. He ate lunches with Jackson, saying the star's appetite varied daily. (AP) The choreographer said that on most days he would rehearse with Jackson at the singer’s rented Holmby Hills mansion for several hours, but as show time approached, he missed some rehearsals with the full crews, causing “production” to worry whether he would be ready.(LAtimes)

Payne said MJ's dancing seemed fine to him. He said they were working on things created decades before to make them age appropriate, dynamic (ABC7) MJ was able to perform many of his familiar dance moves, although they had to be modified because the singer was 50 years old and not as limber as he had been decades earlier. He said Jackson was tired for some of the sessions and that "some days would be better than others." (AP) Payne and associate choreographer Stacy Walker said they were working to modify Jackson’s dance routine to his age. “I was realizing that’s Michael Jackson, but he’s not 20 or 30 any more,” Walker testified, “he’s 50 and how is that going to be? We have to figure it out.” (LATimes)

"Drill" was the last thing they worked together, Payne said. Michael had a great love for military precision. (ABC7)

"He seemed very tired, we all were," Payne said.(ABC7)

Payne testified that production wanted MJ to be more in attendance with all the cast, rather than just MJ rehearsing by himself at his house. Payne: because there was inconsistency with MJ appearing at the rehearsal, production was concerned they would not meet their goals.(ABC7)

AEG attorney Jessica Stebbins Bina asked Payne whether he thought Jackson could have finished “This Is It” show. Payne said yes.(AP)

Payne said Jackson’s goal was to sing every song in “This Is It” live. Jackson had used vocal-assist tracks on previous shows, he said.(AP) Travis Payne said Michael Jackson told him that on the “This Is It” concerts, he wanted to sing all the vocals live, “which he had not done in the past on every tour…. This was a goal he set for himself.”(LATimes) "MJ told me he wanted to sing all the songs live," Payne said. "He had not done that in the past." Some songs were vocalist tracked 2 assist. By June 25, Payne said MJ had not developed the goal of singing and dancing at the same time.(ABC7)

Payne said that Jackson had never performed a complete show with just his live vocals.He said Jackson had not reached his goal by the time he died June 25, 2009, but the choreographer thought he could have pulled it off. (LAtimes)

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Payne will continue to testify

After jurors left, Judge Palazuelos said she sustained plaintiffs objection and will not allow defense to use Dr. Murray's intvw w/ LAPD. In it, Dr. Murray said he was hired by MJ to be paid by AEG. Plaintiffs said it's hearsay and judge agreed.


Zusammenfassung von Ivy MJJC #12

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Es geht ein bischen weiter mit Karen Faye Cross, Fortsetzung von Post 44:

Q: War es die einzige Zeit wo sie MJ in Reha sahen?

A: Ja

Q. Sie sind nicht sicher wie viele Tage Sie da waren?

A: Ich erinnere mich nicht. Ich glaube über Nacht- einige Tag

Q: Hatten Sie eine Unterhaltung warum Mr. Jackson dachte das er da ist?

A: Ja, wir hatten eine Unterhaltung.

Q: Und er dachte er sollte da sein?

A: Nein, Sir

Q: Warum nicht?

A: Er dachte nicht, dass er ein Problem hatte, Sir

Q: Sagten Sie ihm, dass Sie glauben, dass er ein Problem hat?

A: Ich ermutigte die Situation. Ich sagte es ist ein schöner Platz, jeder ist nett. Es ist gut für Dich.

Q: Erinnerten Sie ihn daran was in Singapur passierte ?

A: Ich erinnere mich nicht

Q: Fanden Sie heraus warum Michael Jackson Sie da haben wollte?

A: Ich denke er wollte mich um ihm Unterstützung zu geben. Ich wusch seine Haare. Diese Art von Dinge.

Q: Mr. Jacksons Haare fertig zu machen war mehr als Shampoo?

A: Ja, war es

Q: Sie sagten gestern, während des Strafprozesses starteten Sie um 3 a.m. um ihn fertig zu machen?

A: Ich ging dahin, weil es ein Prozess für ihn war runter zu gehen zum Raum wo er arbeitete, durch den Prozess zu gehen. Ja

Q:Nun als Mr. Jackson zur Reha ging, erinnern Sie sich, dass er eine Ankündigung machte für die Reha?

A: Ja, er machte ein öffentliche Ankündigung. Er erklärte in pers. Worten was los ist.

Putman spielt Audio von der Ankündigung Nov 1993

Q: Erinnern Sie sich?

A: Ich erinnere mich an das Visuelle. Er hatte die Wimpern, die ich nicht –die ich hasste

Q: Sagen Sie das nochmals

A: Er trug die Wimpern. Er wollte das ich die Wimpern drauf mache. Ich wollte nicht, tat es aber.

Q: Sagen Sie sie taten die Wimpern auf und begleiteten das Video?

A Ja, ich ging nach Neverland um es richtig zu machen.

Q: Haben Sie die Ankündigung gesehen

A: Sie fragten mich das in der Depostion. Ich bin gewöhnlich im Raum, aber ich kann mich nicht erinnern ob ich ihn fertig machte und er dann in einen Nebenraum ging und die Veröffentlichung machte

Q: Nun, wenn die Ankündigung passierte 1 Tag nach Tourende

A:Warten Sie , war es ein Tag nach Tourende?

Q: Lassen Sie mich fragen. Wissen Sie wann dies erschien?

A: Ich muss sagen. Ich kann nicht genau sagen wann das war

Q: Und Sie wissen ob dies Veröffentlichung oder nach ihren Besuch von Mr. Jackson in der UK war?

A: Ich kann mich nicht erinnern

Q:Sie erinnern sich, dass Sie mir heute Morgen sagten Mr. Jackson ging und sie wussten nicht wo er war. Sie fanden schließlich heraus, er ist in der UK.

A: Habe ich, Sir.

Q:Zeigt das nicht Sie wussten wo er war, denn Sie halfen ihm mit dies?

A:Nun, wenn er die Ankündigung zuvor machte, o Gosh- Sie habe mich gefangen. Das ist eine lange Zeit her. Wie lange? Mexico-City (lange Pause.) Ich kann mich nicht erinnern. Ich weiß ich war da um das Make-up für die Ankündigung zu machen. So, wenn er dies machte bevor er ging? Sie haben mich, es tut mir leid.

Q: Warum ist das?

A: Nun-meine Erinnerung- ich versuche logistisch Dinge zu erinnern und eine Menge ist schwierig für mich.

Q:Nun lassen Sie mich darüber fragen.

A: Weil Sie sind ein Anwalt sind. Und versuchen, Sie machen Ihren Job

Q: Sie haben eine lange Geschichte mit Tweets Online?

A:Ja, Sir

Q:Ist es fair zu sagen Sie 100erte, wenn nicht 1000sende Tweets über Michael Jackson gesendet?

A:Wahrscheinlich

Q:Haben Sie einen Blog?

A: Ja

Q: Haben Sie eine Webseite?

A:

Q: Auf dem Blog haben Sie ausführlich über Ihre Beziehung zu Michael Jackson geschrieben?

A:Nicht extensiv, eine Weile. Es wurde zu schmerzhaft, dann stoppte ich.

Q. Und die Fotos, die wir gestern sahen, waren Fotos von dem Blog?

A:Ich war da nicht in einer langen Zeit. Die Fotos? Auf meinem Blog? Ich weiß nicht wo sie sind. Ich tue sie auf viele Webseiten.

Q:Haben Sie verschiedene Seiten?

A:Ja, ich habe verschiedene Accounts, ich nutze das Internet.

Q:Und es gibt viele MF-Fanseiten, da?

A: Ja

Q: Ist es wahr, dass Sie auf diesen Seiten gepostet und kommuniniziert haben?

A:Nun in der Zeit wo ich für MJJ-Source arbeitete. Aber ich habe nicht, ich gehe nicht auf diese Seiten.

Q:Was ist MJJ-Source?

A:MJJ-Source ist eine Seite, die Michael und Randy Jackson zusammen kreierten um ein Vehikel für die Wahrheit zu haben während des Prozesses. Den Prozess während der Missbrauchsvorwürfe.

Q:In Fakt in all diesen Tweets und Blogs haben sie eine Menge nicht vorteilhafte Dinge über AEG gesagt?

A:Ich habe die Wahrheit aus meiner Erfahrung heraus gesagt, Sir.

Q:Meine Frage ist nicht über Wahrheit. Haben Sie viele unvorteilhafte Dinge über AEG gesagt?

A: Ich gebe Ihnen die gleiche Antwort, Sir?


Q:Ich frage nicht nach der gleichen Antwort. Ich frage Sie ob Sie das Wort unvorteilhaft verstehen?

A: Ich denke- unvorteilhaft. Können Sie das Wort definieren?


Q:Sachen ins Internet über AEG stellen, indem sie diese in ein Licht stellen, das nicht vorteilhaft ist, in einem schlechten Licht.

A: Ich habe sie in einem wahrheitsvollen Licht geschildert aus meiner Erfahrung.

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Karen Faye-Cross:

Q:Betrachten Sie das als positives Licht. Haben Sie AEG beschimpft auf diesen Seiten?

A:Ich habe sie nicht beschimpft- ich sie nicht gepriesen


Q: Sie sagten mir vorher, ich wäre froh, wenn Sie sich nicht an die Fakten erinnern können. Ich versuche herauszufinden warum Sie das sagten. Ist es wegen der Dinge, die Sie auf verschiedenen Webseiten sagten?

A:Nein, weil Sie ein Anwalt sind, Sir.

Q: Lassen Sie uns zurück kommen für einen Moment. Reha. Sie sahen und hörten die Ankündigung und Sie sagen Sie sind nicht sicher ob Sie da waren?

A: Entschuldigung, können Sie es nochmals sagen?

Q: Sie wissen nicht wo Mr. Jackson war als er in Reha ging?

A: Richtig

Q:Aber Sie sind sicher, Sie waren für die Ankündigung da?

A: Ich mache, das Make-up, die Haare, Sir:

Q:Und das Visuelle, sind Sie sicher Sie waren da, ist das Visuelle was ihre Anwesenheit begleitet?

A:Ich kenne nur die Visuelle, ich bin nicht familiär mit der Geschriebenen, die Sie zeigten.

Q:Nachdem Sie Mr. Jackson in Reha sahen, kamen Sie zurück in die Staaten?

A:Ja

Q: und Sie sagten als sie da waren sagte M. Jackson er denkt er brauche nicht da sein

A: Ja

Q:Sagten Sie es seiner Familie?

A:Ich hatte keinen Kontakt zu seiner Familie.

Q. Ließen Sie seinen Managern wissen, das Mr. Jackson denkt, er solle nicht da sein?

A: Ich hatte keinen Kontakt zu seinen Managern

Q: Was ist mit seinen Ärzten? Ließen Sie seine Ärzte wissen, dass er denkt, er solle nicht da sein?

A: Ich war nicht in Kontakt mit seinen Ärzten.

Q: So das passierte 1993. Arbeiteten Sie nach 1993 weiter mit Mr. Jackson nachdem er aus der Reha zurück kam?

A: Ja

Q.Die nächste Tour war die History-Tour in 1996. Zwischen Ende der Dangerous-Tour und der History-Tour, haben Sie in den 3 Jahren für Mr. Jackson gearbeitet?

A:Ich bin sicher ich tat es. Ich arbeitete mit Michael als Klient.


Q:Während dieser Zeit sprachen Sie je über die Zeit in der Reha?

A:Ich kann mich nicht erinnern.

Q: Erinnern Sie sich in dieser Zeit je eine Unterhaltung mit ihm über Drogenbrauch gehabt zu haben?

A:Ich versuche mich zu erinnern was passierte. Ich bin nicht sich ob wir Kurzfilme drehten oder-können Sie es mir sagen was Michael beruflich in dieser Zeit machte? Weil so habe ich einen Bezug was ich machte, weil ich arbeitete für ihn.

Q: Wie arbeiteten Sie für Ihn?


A: Ich arbeitete als Makeup-Artist für ihn, Sir.

Q:Ich muss Sie enttäuschen. Und Ihr Verständnis für Anwälte. Ich habe keine Idee. Erinnern Sie sich?

A: Welches Album war draußen?

Q. Jetzt ist es History.

A:History kam raus. Okay. Es gab einen History-Trailer in Bukarest. Das war als er Lisa Marie heiratete. Während dieser Zeit.

Q: Sagen Sie den vollen Namen für die Akten.

A: Lisa Marie Presley, Sir, ich glaube er war in New York in dieser Zeit. Ich ging nach Budapest. Ich kann mich nicht an Sorgen in dieser Zeit erinnern.

Q: Nahmen Sie an Mr. Jackson`s Hochzeit teil?

A: Mit Lisa Marie Presley? Nein, Sir.

Q: Machten Sie die Haare dafür?

A: No. Er heiratete in der Domikan. Republik. Ich war nicht da.

Q: So die History-Tour war 1996 bis 1997. Sie ging auf diese Tour?

A: Einen Teil davon.

Q: Das war die Tour wo Sie informiert wurden, dass Sie nicht länger benötigt werden?

A: Nach dem ersten Leg.

Q: Wer fragte Sie mit auf Tour zu gehen?

A: Michael

Q: Sie nahmen wahr, das Mr. Ortega auf dieser Tour war. Wissen Sie was er gemacht hat?

A: Creativ-Direktor, wie gewöhnlich.

Q: War Travis Payne auch wieder auf dieser Tour?

A: Ich glaube ja.

Q: Er war Chorograph.

A: Ein Tänzer, Choreograph.

Q: Und das ist die Tour wo Paul Gongaware eine höhere Position hatte als auf der Dangerous Tour?
A: Es schien so.

Q: Wissen Sie ob es zu dieser Zeit eine Firma namens AEG gab?

A: Nein, nicht dass ich mich erinnern kann.

Q: Was machte Paul Gongaware für die Tour?

A: Ich nahm an Tarrock oder was immer für eine Organisation die aufsetzte.

Q: Wer war Tarrock?

A: Es gab einen saudiarab. Prinz oder König in dieser Zeit.

Q: War Tarrock Saudiarab. Royality?

A: Nein er arbeitete mit ihnen, glaube ich. Sie reden erneut über der Linie. Das sind Leute wo ich niemals die genaue Position wusste. Ich machte nur meinen Job als Make up und Hair arist. Ich war nicht informiert was jeder für eine Postition hat.

Q: Was meinen Sie mit unter und über der Linie?

A: Die Kommandobrücke. Da gibt es Arbeiter und es gibt Leute für die die Arbeiter arbeiten und berichten.

Q: Mr. Tarrock war über der Linie?


A: Ja

Q: Er war Mr. Jacksons Manager?

A: Ich würde keinen Stempel draufsetzen, dass er es war, Sir.

Q: Sie arbeiteten mit ihm auf der History Tour?

A: Er reiste in einer andere Gruppe als ich. Er reiste in der A-Gruppe, ich reiste in der B-Gruppe. Ich würde sagen er arbeitete auf einer Ebene gleich mit Paul Gongaware. Persönl. Meinen Vertrag verhandeln. Jemand der die Regeln macht.

Q: Hatten Sie Unterhaltungen mit beiden Tarock und Paul Gongaware während der History Tour um ihren Vertrag zu entwickeln?

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Karne Faye-Cross

A: Woran ich mich erinnere, es waren 2 Leute mit denen ich verhandelte und berichtete..

Q: Sie arbeiteten nicht weiter auf der History Tour. War das nachdem Sie einen Streit mit Tarrock hatten?

A: Ja

Q: Worum ging dieser Streit?

A: Tarrok hatte ein Auge auf mich. Und ich fand das machte die Dinge sehr schwierig für mich. Er sagte mir, er erlaube mir nicht mit Michael zu sprechen während ich sein Make up mache. Und meine Bezahlung wurde reduziert. Und die Zahl, die er mir gab war ein sehr geringes Gehalt. Ich habe ein Kind und ein zu Hause, es gab keinen Weg wie dies finanziell händeln konnte.

Q: Hatten Sie ein Verständnis dafür warum Tarock Ihnen sagte während der History Tour ihm seine Haare zu machen, aber nicht mit ihm zu sprechen?

A: Es wurde mir nie erklärt, aber mein Gefühl war Kontrolle.

Q: Wenn Sie Kontrolle sagen, was meinen Sie?

A: Jeder Manager der über Michael kam wollte mich ersetzen. Weil in einer Position vor Michael war und ihn berührte. Und es war immer sehr deutlich-sogar Michael sagte mir- jedes Management wollte mich mit jemand ersetzen vorne vor Michael. Es ist sehr üblich in Hollywood. Es gibt einen Machtkampf. Die Leute an der Spitze wollen Kontrolle über die Leute unter der Linie. So es war üblich für mich jemand über der Linie zu haben der mich nicht in langer Begleitung von Michael wollte.

Q: So Tarrok sagte Ihnen Ihre Dienste werden nicht länger benötigt?

A: Ja

Q: Haben Sie das mit Mr. Jackson besprochen?

A: Nein bis danach.

Q:Wann war das?

A: Als Tarrock gegangen war, nach der History Tour und Michael mich zurückfragte.

Q:Fragte Mr. Jackson oder sein Manager Sie ob Sie zurückkommen?

A: Sein Manager, Wer war sein Manager Sir?

Q: Ich weiß es nicht, ich fragte ob es Tarrock war und Sie sagten Sie wissen es nicht.

A:Nun er hat sicher nicht nach mir Ausschau gehalten, er war derjenige der entlassen wurde.

Q:Mr. Jackson fragte Sie nicht warum Sie nicht da waren?

A:Nein.

Q:Ist es Ihr Verständnis, dass Mr. Jackson wusste, dass Sie nicht weiter bei der History Tour dabei sine.

A:Michael Jackson erzählte Bush. Er fragte Bush warum ich nicht da bin.

Q:So Ihr Verständnis ist Mr. Jackson wusste nicht warum Sie nicht da sind?

A: Weil M. Bush mir erzählte, er fragte warum ich nicht da bin, diese zeigte mir er wusste es nicht. Ich weiß wirklich nicht was irgendjemand wusste oder auch nicht wusste. Weil ich nicht da war.


Q: Kamen Sie jemals zum Glauben, dass Debbie Rowe eine Rolle darin hatte warum Sie nicht da waren?

A: Ein bischen.

Q: Wer war Mrs. Rowe zu dieser Zeit?

A: Seine Ehefrau

Q:Sie sagten mir vorher, das LMP seine Frau zu der Zeit war, ich bin etwas konfuss.

A:Pardon?

Q: So zu dieser Zeit war LMP nicht seine Frau?

A:Nicht bei der History-Tour, Sir.

Q: So Sie kamen zum Glauben dass Debbie Rowe eine Rolle darin hatten, dass Sie nicht weiter auf Tour waren?

A:Nachher sagte sie es mir. Nachdem ich zurück war entschuldigte sie sich, dass sie eine Rolle spielte das ich weg war.

Q:Verstehen Sie was sie für eine Rolle spielte?

A. Das ist kompliziert. Ich brauchte eine andere Person, die mit mir arbeitete. Debbie Rowe stellte mir einen Hair Dresser namens Tommy Simms vor, guter Freund von ihr. Ich mochte ihn sehr und nahm ihn mit auf Tour. Da ging eine Menge vor wo ich keinen Einblick hatte oder ich nicht verstand. Debbie war schwanger und sie war offensichtlich verliebt in Michael Jackson. Sie erzählte mir dies viele Jahre vorab. Es war ihr Wunsch mit ihm zu sein. Sie sagte mir sie war eifersüchtig, das ich seine Makeup-Artistin bin. Sie dachte Michael mag mich mehr als sie. Und sie fühlte sich wohler als ihr Freund Simms meine Rolle einnahm.


Q: So Sie waren auf dem ersten Leg der History -Tour dabei. Sie sahen Mr. Jackson in Reha 1993. Sie sagten Sie waren häufig besorgt in der Dangerous Tour, dass Mr. Jackson Medikamente nahm. Waren Sie besorgt, dass Mr. Jackson Medikament während der History Tour nimmt?


A: Um ehrlich zu sein ich war immer besorgt, aber es schien ihm gut zu gehen auf diesem Leg.

Q: So auch mit der Vorgeschichte, Sie sahen nichts auf dieser Tour was eine Besorgnis für Sie war?

A:Nicht das ich mich erinnere.

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THE JACKSONS VS. AEG LIVE — ZEUGEN DER JACKSONS, 5. TEIL

13. MAI 2013

Die Befragung von Karen Faye, Michael Jacksons langjähriger Hair and Make-up Artist, dauerte zwei Tage lang (für die Aussagen am ersten Tag siehe gestrige Meldung vom 12.5.). Am zweiten Tag erzählte Faye u.a. ein Anekdote von Michael Bush, Michaels Kostümdesigner, als dieser Michael Jackson bei den Proben sechs Tage vor Michaels Tod kurz ins Badezimmer begleitet hatte, um ihm frische Kleider zu geben, da Michael immer sehr stark schwitzte. Michael Jackson war noch im Badezimmer, als Bush erschrocken zu Karen in den Wohnraum kam und ihr sagte: “Oh mein Gott, Turkle [Michael Jacksons Spitzname für Karen], ich kann Michaels Herzschlag durch die Haut seiner Brust sehen”.

Als man sich Sorgen über Michaels Gewichtsverlusts machte, soll Frank DiLeo schlicht gesagt haben, man solle ihm eine Schüssel Hühnchen bringen [wohl, weil bekannt war, dass Michael gern KFC (Kentucky Fried Chicken) Fast Food hatte]. “Es war so eine emotionslose Reaktion; es brach mir das Herz,” so Karen Faye unter Tränen.

Karen Faye äusserte sich auch zur “This Is It” Dokumentation und sagte aus, dass der Michael Jackson, der darin der Öffentlichkeit gezeigt wurde, nicht der Wirklichkeit entsprach. Man war im Rahmen der Dokumentation an sie heran getreten und bat sie, dabei zu helfen, das Videomaterial zu retouchieren, damit Michael auf der Kinoleinwand gesünder aussehen würde. Aber sie weigerte sich, dies zu tun. “Es war eine Lüge. Ich wollte nicht lügen. Alle lügten, nachdem er gestorben war und sagten, dass Michael gesund war, und dabei wussten alle, dass er es nicht war,” so Faye.

Hier der Link zum ausführlichen Protokoll vom zweiten Tag von Karen Fayes Zeugenbefragung. Heute soll Stacy Walker, eine von Michaels ehemaligen Tänzerinnen und “This Is It” Choreographin, in den Zeugenstand gerufen werden.

Quellen: jackson.ch, cnn.com, teammichaeljackson.com Teilen mit:

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Link:

http://teammichaeljackson.com/archives/8342

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THE JACKSONS VS. AEG LIVE – ZEUGEN VON AEG, 1. TEIL

15. MAI 2013

Keine Sorge, die Jackson Seite hat nicht schon ausgedient mit ihren Zeugen. Aber Stacy Walker und Travis Payne, ehemalige Tänzer und Choreographen für Michael Jackson und beides Zeugen für AEG Live, mussten diese Woche geschäftlich ins Ausland und wurden deshalb vorgezogen. Auch wurde gestern Dr. Christopher Rogers, der Gerichtsmediziner und Zeuge für die Jacksons, nochmals befragt.

Als erstes wurde am Montag Stacy Walker befragt. Sie machte klar, dass ihre Hauptaufgabe im Rahmen der “This Is It” Shows war, mit den anderen Tänzern zusammen zu arbeiten und nicht direkt mit Michael Jackson. Was sie persönlich angelangt, hatte sie keine Anzeichen gesehen, dass Michael Jackson krank gewesen wäre oder sterben könnte. Nicht in einer Million Jahre hätte sie gedacht, dass er sterben würde. Ja, Michael habe dünner ausgesehen als in vergangenen Jahren und er habe bei den Proben mehrere Schichten Kleider getragen, so Walker, aber sie dachte, das habe er so gewollt. Und obwohl er zu einigen Proben nicht erschien, war sie überzeugt, dass Michael gestützt auf seine Performance in seinen letzten zwei Proben vor seinem Tod bereit war für die Shows in London. Als Walker gefragt wurde, ob Michael jemals wackelig erschien, sagte sie, sie erinnere sich an einen Vorfall, aber sie könne sich nicht mehr erinnern, ob sie diesen selbst miterlebt hatte oder ob ihr jemand davon erzählt hatte. “Ich habe nicht nach Anzeichen gesucht zu jener Zeit. Ich wünschte, ich hätte es”, so Stacy Walker.

Für das detaillierte Protokoll der Zeugenaussage von Stacy Walker
siehe hier: http://teammichaeljackson.com/archives/8361

Travis Payne wurde als nächstes befragt. Er sagte aus, dass AEG Live in Betracht zog, die “This Is It” Shows elf Tage vor Michael Jacksons Tod zu annullieren. “Es war ‘Wir müssen dies auf die Reihe kriegen oder wir müssen den Stecker ziehen’ “, so Payne im Kreuzverhör von Brian Parish, dem Anwalt der Jacksons. Den Geschworenen wurden von den AEG Anwälten zwei E-Mails gezeigt. In der einen schrieb Kenny Ortega, dass Michael sich nur allmählich an die Arbeit ranmachte. Ortega hatte auch verlangt, dass vor der Bühne ein Telepromter aufgestellt wurde, da Michael Jackson zum Teil Mühe hatte, sich an die Songtexte zu erinnern. Dies sei noch nie zuvor bei einem Konzert vorgekommen, so Payne. In der zweiten E-Mai schrieb der Musical Director Michael Bearden an Kenny Ortega elf Tage vor Michaels Tod: “MJ ist nicht gut genug drauf, um alle Songs live zu singen und gleichzeitig zu tanzen. Er kann die Balladen live singen und gleichzeitig seine Stamina aufbauen. Wenn er fit genug und stark ist, bin ich voller Zuversicht, dass er die meisten Songs in der Show live singen kann. Seine Stimme klingt im Moment fantastisch, er muss sie einfach noch weiter aufbauen. Es ist erforderlich, dass alle grossen Tanznummern einstudiert sind, so dass wir uns auf die Choreographie konzentrieren können”. Ortega habe Michael jedoch bei den nächsten Proben drei Tage später nach Hause geschickt, weil er krank war.

Als Jackson Anwalt Brian Parish andeutete, dass Travis Payne die gesundheitlichen Probleme von Michael Jackson herunterzuspiele, machte Payne klar, dass er “keinen Hund in diesem Rennen hat” und somit keinen Grund habe, irgend etwas zu verheimlichen. “Mr. Jackson hat mir erklärt, dass er Schlafprobleme hatte, dass er müde war, und das hat mir genügt”, so Payne. Und als er Michael sagte, dass er dünn ausschaue, sagte ihm Michael, “Nun, ich gehe auf mein Kampfgewicht runter” und Payne habe keinen Grund gehabt, dies in Frage zu stellen. Ja, manchmal erschien Michael etwas beduselt, aber das sei meistens gewesen, nachdem er direkt nach dem Arztbesuch beim Dermatologen (Dr. Klein) zu den Proben kam, was in den paar Wochen vor seinem Tod zwei- bis viermal pro Woche vorkam. Payne erklärte, dass Michael sich kosmetischen Prozeduren unterzog, damit er sich toll fühlen und einen guten Job machen konnte. Betreffend die Proben an den letzten zwei Abenden vor seinem Tod habe Michael Jackson ihn sehr beeindruckt; er konnte den Hauptteil der Show durchmachen. “Ich hatte nicht erwartet, dass er gleich auftrat, wie wenn er vor der grossen Masse performen würde”, so Payne. “Alles was ich sah, war, dass es besser wurde und dass er seinen Zielen näher kam”. Eines dieser Ziele war, alle seine Songs live zu singen und dabei zu tanzen, und somit ohne Hilfe von im Voraus aufgezeichneten Tracks zu performen. Auch wenn er dies in früheren Touren zum Teil gemacht hatte, wollte er in London nur live singen, so Payne.

Payne erzählte aber auch ausgiebig über das liebevolle Verhältnis von Michael zu seinen Kindern, das er oftmals hautnah miterleben konnte, da er während der Vorbereitungsphase auch viel Zeit bei Michael zu Hause verbracht hatte. Er beschrieb auch die Charakteristika der drei Kinder und wie sich ihre Liebe und Verehrung Michael gegenüber äusserte.

Für das detaillierte Protokoll der Zeugenaussage von Travis Payne
siehe hier: http://teammichaeljackson.com/archives/8372

Dr. Christopher Rogers, der Gerichtsmediziner, der Michael Jacksons Autopsie durchgeführt hatte und Zeuge für die Jacksons ist, wurde gestern nochmals in den Zeugenstand gerufen, wo er u.a. bestätigte, dass Michael Jackson bei seinem Tod nicht untergewichtig war und allgemein in einem recht guten gesundheitlichen Zustand war. Für sein Alter war er gesünder als der Durchschnitt. Auch habe Michael Jackson bei seinem Tod keine medizinischen Anzeichen von Unterernährung aufgewiesen.

Für den zweiten Teil der gerichtlichen Aussage von Dr. Rogers
siehe hier: http://teammichaeljackson.com/archives/8385


Quellen: jackson.ch, cnn.com, kptv.com, teammichaeljackson.com

Weiterlesen unter http://www.jackson.ch/the-jacksons-v...on-aeg-1-teil/
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[Lena]

Fortsetung von Post 53 Karen Faye Cross

Q. Sie haben gestern gesagt, da waren Ärzte, die Sie auf der Tour sahen, Dr. Ratner?

A: Ich denke ich sah ihn nur einmal im Foyer, am Ende des 1. Legs.

Q:Was ist mit Dr. Klein? Sahen Sie Dr. Klein?

A:Ich kann mich nicht erinnern ihn gesehen zu haben.

Q:Was ist mit Dr. Metzger? Sie haben Dr. Metzger nicht gesehen?

A:Ich kann mich nicht erinnern ihn gesehen zu haben.

Q:So es gab eine Zeit wo Sie wieder mit Mr. Jackson arbeiteten, erinnern Sie sich wie es dazu kam?

A:Nur das Evvy mich anrief und sagte „Mr. Jackson möchte Dich zurückhaben. Wie findest Du das? Und ich sagte: „Großartig.“

Q:Erlärten Sie jemals Mr. Jackson was mit Tarrock passierte?

A:Ein bischen, weil er war im Raum als er Debbie fragte sich zu entschuldigen. So es gab Diskussionen und Entschuldigungen über die Situation.


Q: Gersten sprachen Sie über ein Ereignis in München, als die Brücke zu schnell war. Erinnern Sie sich das es 1999 war?

A: Ich erinnere mich nicht an das exakte Jahr, ja.

Q:Es war 1999.

A: Seoul und München.

Q:Arbeitete Mr. Ortega mit Mr. Jackson an den beiden Konzerten?

A:Ja.

Q: Arbeitete auch Mr. Payne wiederum dort?

A: Ich glaube.

Q: Paul Gongaware hatte keine Rolle dort, richtig?

A:Nach meiner Erinnerung nicht.

Q: Gestern beschrieben Sie als die Brücke zusammenbrach, Sie waren Augenzeuge, richtig?

A:Ja.

Q: Sie sagten Sie waren verzweifelt?

A: Ich hatte Angst beim Schauen.

Q:Sie erinnern sich, dass Sie sagten er könnte tot sein?

A: Als die Brücke zur Bühne runterfiel konnte ich es nicht sehen, ich ging zum Orchester-Teil, ich wusste nicht was passiert ist und dachte es ist möglich.

Q:Ich möchte den ganzen Clip zeigen.

A: Ok. schauen wir es nochmals.

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Q:Schien Mr. Jackson dünn zu sein zur damaligen Zeit?

A: Ich habe nicht danach geschaut. Er war immer schmal. Nun, nicht immer, es gab Zeiten da war er etwas schwerer, wie am Ende von Mexico, als wir ihn herausnahmen, er war etwas schwerer.

Q:Lassen Sie mich verstehen. Sie sagen er wurde dünner, als er in die Reha ging?

A:Ja, Sir

Q:Können Sie sich an eine andere Zeit erinnern wo Mr. Jackson schwerer war?


A: In New York bei der Veröffentlichung von Invincible war er schwerer.

Q:In der Zeit von München und Seoul waren Sie besorgt über Mr. Jacksons Medikamentengebrauch?


A:Nein, Sir.

Q:So das ist 1999 und Sie arbeiteten weiter mit Mr. Jackson, 30th anniversary.

A: Die Madison Square-Show

Q: Madison 2002?

A:Ja

Q: Das ist die Show wo Sie gestern sagten, dass der Arzt ihm Medikamente gab?

A:Ich ging zum Zimmer um ihn fertig zu machen für die Show und der Arzt war da, als ich klopfte.

Q:War es ein anderer Arzt?

A: Ja. Er sagte er gab ihm eine Schlafmedizin

Q: Sagte er was für eine Schlafmedizin?

A:Nein, aber er sagte es würde ihn 5 oder 6 Stunden schlafen lassen.

Q: Er sagte Michael würde schlafen und in 5 oder 6 Stunden wach sein?

Q: Haben Sie Michael gesehen und bestätigen Sie das er da war zu der Zeit?


A:Michael war da. Ich denke Frank Cascio ging ins Schlafzimmer und brachte ihn auf für mich, weil ich nicht ins Schlafzimmer gehe.

Q: Warum sagen Sie das?


A: Weil ich eine Lady bin. Ich gehe nicht unangekündigt in Männerschlafzimmer.


Q: So Mr. Cascio ging rein. Wer ist Mr. Cascio?

A: Er arbeitete als Michaels Freund und Assistent.

Q:Wissen Sie wer Mr. Jacksons Manager war zu der Zeit?

A:Ich glaube er hatte keinen zu der Zeit. Ich erinnere mich nicht ob Dieter Wiesner da war. Ich glaube nicht. Ich kann mich nicht erinnern.


Q:Ist Dieter Wiesner eine andere Person die zu einer Zeit als Mr. Jacksons Manager arbeitete?


A: Manager- ich denke wir schmeißen mit dem Wort herum, auch wenn sie für Michael arbeiteten war es eher vage was ein Manger war und was für eine Rolle er hatte. Es gab Leute, die in sein Business involviert waren, seine Karriere managten, sein Geld managten, es ist wirklich nicht klar was Sie mit Manager meinen. Wenn Sie mich fragen, ich kann Ihnen wirklich nicht sagen ob da ein Manager war. Es gab Leute, die vielleicht sein Manager waren, aber nicht in einer Rolle arbeiteten, die ich als Manager bezeichnen würde.



Q:So lassen Sie mich fragen, haben Sie eine Einschätzung darüber ob es da jemanden gab, der Mr. Jacksons Karriere managte oder nicht oder sind dies nur Ihre Vermutungen? Zum Beispiel Tarrock? Sie bezeichneten ihn als Manager? Hat dies je jemand Ihnen gesagt, dass er dies ist?

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Karen-Faye-Cross

A:Für mich gab es über und unter der Linie. Das ist so klar wie es eben ging für mich. Wie ich sagte ich war nie sicher welche Verantwortungen die Leute über der Linie hatten. Es gab eine Menge Leute drumherum. z.B Charles Bobbit. Ich war nie sicher über die Position, noch fragte ich um Klärung.

Q:So an verschiedenen Punkten wurden Sie gefragt ob jemand Manager war. Sie haben angenommen welche Rolle jemand spielte. Das war nichts was Ihnen jemand gesagt hat, es sind Ihre Vermutungen?

Einwand-Überstimmt

Q:Ihre Bewertung ist über und unter der Linie?

A Das ist eine der Faktoren, ja.

Q: Nun Sie arbeiteten weiter mit Mr. Jackson. Eine schwere Zeit, Anfang der der 2000er, der Strafprozess.

A: Es war Mitte 2000, glaube ich. Oh ja die Anschuldigungen, wir waren in Las Vegas als dies passierte und es herausfanden.

Q:Woran arbeiteten Sie ?


A: Wir arbeiteten an einem Song für Invincible, ich kann mich gerade nicht erinnern (One more chance). Es war so kurz, weil


Q: Das ist 2003. 2005 war der Prozess, richtig?


A: Richtig.

Q:Sie sagten heute Morgen auch, dass Sie mit Randy Jackson arbeiteten. Was war das? War es in dieser Zeit?


A:Ich kann nicht sagen ich arbeitete mit Randy Jackson. Ich arbeitete an der Webseite.

Q: Das war die Webseite gegründet von Michael und Randy Jackson, richtig?


A:Richtig.

Q:Arbeiteten Sie auch mit Tanya Zilkie an der Webseite?

A: Richtig

Q:Mrs. Zilkie sagten Sie heute Morgen ist auch Ihr Agent/Repräsentant?

Q:Ja

Q: Mrs. Zilkie wurde später Ihr Manager?


A: Nicht Manager. Sie managte nicht meine Karriere. Ich traf sie nach dem Prozess. Der Prozess war vorüber und Michael freigesprochen. Diese Zeitperiode, die wir miteinander verbrachten war sehr intensiv. Und wir kamen uns sehr nahe. Und wir sagten uns nun was.
Wir rappelten uns zusammen. Sie ist gut im organisieren und wir hatten einen guten Rapport auf der Webseite. Ich fragte Sie ob sie mich repräsentieren würde, nicht meine Karriere managen oder Jobs finden , sondern ein Zwischending wenn Dinge entstehen. Es ist nicht gut für einen Künstler selbst die Gage auszuhandeln mit dem Klienten. Ich brauchte jemand der die Verträge aufsetzt.

Q:Gestern sagten Sie es gab eine Zeit im Prozess wo Sie besorgt wurden bzgl. Medigebrauch von Mr. Jackson. War das die Zeit des möglichen Medikamentengebrauches?


A Die Zeichen waren da.

Q:Was waren die Zeichen?


A:Als er ins Krankenhaus ging. Die phys. Schmerzen. Er war unter Stress, konnte nicht schlafen, die Rückenschmerzen und das Emotionale da durchzugehen. Es ist schlimm genug für mich darüber zu reden. Es ist nicht vorstellbar was er durchmachte.

Q:So Sie fingen an sich Sorgen zu machen. Wie lange war der Prozess?

A: Um die 3 Monate.

Q:Und wuchsen in dieser Zeit Ihre Sorgen über den Drogengebrauch?


A:Ich war wachsend besorgt um sein Wohlbefinden, Sir.

Q:Und diesen Morgen sprachen Sie darüber, dass sie zusammen beteten als sie in fertig machten.

A:Ja.

Q: Sagten Sie etwas in diesen Zeiten zu Mr. Jackson, dass Sie besorgt sind?


A:Nein

[Lena]

Karen Faye-Cross

Q:Und während diesen Zeiten, Sie sagten Sie arbeiteten mit Randy Jackson und Mrs.Zilkie, teilten Sie Ihnen Ihre Sorge mit?

A: Ich glaube nicht, Sir.

Q: Und Mrs. Jackson, K. Jackson. Sie war jeden Tag beim Prozess, richtig?

A:Ja

Q:Gingen Sie tagsüber zum Prozess?

A:Mir war es nicht erlaubt, ich war auf der Zeugenliste.

Q: Haben Sie ausgesagt ?

A: Nein

Q: Haben sie mit anderen über Mr. Jacksons Medigebrauch gesprochen?

A:Michael Bush

Q. Das ist Mr. Jacksons Dressing Man, richtig?

A: Ja

Q: Niemals mit Mr. Jackson selbst, richtig?

A: Nein, Sir.

Q: Gibt es einen Grund dafür?

A: Die Zeit, die ich mit ihm verbrachte, war eine Zeit des Friedens. Keine Konfrontation. Er musste ins Gericht. Ich sah ihn nur am Morgen. Es war mein Job, es war meine Pflicht als Freund diese Zeit so friedlich wie möglich zu machen bis er ins Gericht musste. Ich wollte ihn mit nichts konfrontieren, was immer er auch tat. Ich könnte ihn nicht beschuldigen dafür, wegem dem Schmerz, dem phys. u. dem emotionalen Schmerz.

Q:: Hat Mr. Jackson Sie je nach Schmerzmittel gefragt?

A: Er frage mich einmal.

Q: Und was sagten Sie.

A: Ich habe keine.


Q:Sahen Sie jemals das Mr. Jackson Medikamente in der Zeit nahm?


A: Als er ins Krankenhaus ging, schien es als wenn sie ihm welche gegeben haben.


Q:Eine andere Zeit aus dem Krankenhaus wo er so erschien?


A:Nun, an dem Pyjama-Tag war es offensichtlich.


Q. Das war der Tag als sie ihn vom Krankenhaus brachten?


A:Nein, ich schaute es im Fernsehen, als er aus dem Auto ging.

Q:Sie sahen ihn im Fernsehen und dachten er steht unter Einfluss?


A: Er ging zum Krankenhaus, sein Schmerz wuchs, sein Gewicht sank drastisch.

Q:Wussten Sie warum Mr. Jackson ins Krankenhaus ging?


A: Er sagte mir er hat extreme Rückenschmerzen.


Q:Sagte er es hat mit dem Fall in München zu tun?


A:Ja.


Q:Aber Sie glaubten ihm nicht?


A:Ich glaubte es, ich glaube er hat Schmerzen und als er schmaler wurde und schwach hat es die Verletzung verstärkt.


Q: Gab es je eine Zeit wo Mr. Jackson zugab ein Medikamentenproblem zu haben?

A: Öffentlich oder mir persönlich?

Q: Ihnen persönlich.


A:Nein.


Q:Sie sagten es gab eine Zeit wo Sie eine Unterhaltung mit Rebbie Jackson bzgl. seines Medikamentenkonsums hatten?


A:Ja.


Q: War es in dieser Zeit?



A:Wie ich vorher sagte, ich kann mich nicht exakt an die Zeit erinnern.



Q:Es war in Ihrem Haus?



A: Ja.


Q:Versuchten Sie sie zu erreichen mit Ihrer Sorge?


A:Sie versuchte mich zu erreichen.


Q:Wissen Sie warum sie sie versuchte zu erreichen.


A: Sie sagte mir, dass sie nach ihrem Bruder fragen wollte.


Q:Wissen Sie was Sie ihr erzählten?


A: Alles was ich konnte. Ich beantwortete all ihre Fragen.

Q:Wissen Sie ob es nach dem Prozess war?


A: Ich sagte Ihnen davor. Ich kann mich wirklich nicht an die Zeit erinnern. Alles was ich sagen kann, es war zwischen 1990 und 2005. Ich weiß nicht wann es war. Ich wünschte ich könnte.
Vielleicht weiß es Rebbie und Sie fragen sie.


Q: Hatten Sie nie eine Art der Unterhaltung mit einem anderem Familienmitglied?

A:Nicht im dem Ausmaß


Q:Warten Sie. Zwischen wann und wann?

[Lena]

Karen Faye Cross

Q:Sie sagten Sie hatten die Unterhaltung mit Rebbie zwischen 1990 und 2005. Hatten Sie eine ähnliche Unterhaltung mit irgendeinem Familienmitglied bis zu seinem Tod?


A: Ich glaube ich hatte Unterhaltungen, aber in sehr kurzer Art mit Randy Jackson während der Zeit. Ich glaube es gab kurze Erwähnungen mit Randy Jackson während der Prozess-Situation.
Es gab Besorgnis um seine Verfassung.


Q:Und wissen Sie ob es jemals Versuche gab wegen dieser Besorgnis, z.B ihn in Reha zu bringen?

A: Es ist mein Verständnis das es sie gab.


Q:Es ist Ihr Verständnis, dass die Familie versuchte ihn in Reha zu bringen?


A:Es ist mein Verständnis, dass es Bemühungen gab Michael zu helfen.


Q:Haben Sie ein Verständnis ob dies mehr als einmal geschah?


A: Es ist mein Verständnis, dass es mehr mehrmals war.


Q:Wie ist Ihr Verständnis ob es jemals erfolgreich war, dass die Familie versuchte ihn in Rehe zu bringen.

A:Ich denke es war nie erfolgreich.



Q:Wissen Sie ob sie nie erfolgreich war? Wissen Sie das sie mit ihren Versuchen scheiterten?


A:Es ist mein Verständnis, dass sie nicht erfolgreich waren ihn in Reha zu bringen.


Q:Kam Rebbie Jackson zu Ihnen in Verbindung mit der Absicht ihn in Reha zu bringen?


A:Rebbie sorgte sich sehr um ihren Bruder. Und sie war sehr besorgt, Ich bin sicher sie versuchten Michael zu helfen in jeder Art sie konnten.


Q:Fragten Sie die Familie warum sie Sie fragten wegen seines Medikonsums?

A: Sie hatten einen Verdacht und wussten, dass ich viel Zeit mit ihm verbringe.


Q: Wissen Sie warum Sie Verdacht hatten?


A: Nein Sie hatten einen Verdacht.

Q: Wissen Sie ob sie sonst noch mit jemand über ihren Verdacht sprachen?


A:Ich bin eine Person mit der sie sprachen. Ich weiß nicht ob sie mit jemand anderen sprachen.


Q: Der Strafproess endete in 2005, richtig?

A:Ja.

Q: Und am Ende des Strafprozesses wurde Mr. Jackson freigesprochen, richtig?


A: Ja


Q:Verließ er dann das Land?


A: Zu meinem Wissen verließ er das Land.


Q. Wo waren Sie als das Urteil verkündet wurde?

A:Ich war in meinem Hotelzimmer in Solvang.


Q:Solvang ist in der Nähe von Mr. Jacksons Estate?


A: Richtig.


Q: Waren Sie dort während des Strafprozesses?


A:Viele Tage,ja.


Q:War jemand mit Ihnen?


A: Tanya und meine Tochter.


Q:Tanya Zilkie?


A: Ja


Q: Wann danach sahen Sie Mr. Jackson?


A: Danach sah ich ihn nicht mehr.


Q:So Sie waren im Hotelzimmer und verkündeten seinen Freispruch und Sie sahen ihn dann mehrere Jahre nicht mehr, richtig?


A:Richtig.


Q:Und er verließ das Land und Sie wussten nicht was geschah, richtig?


A:Nein. Ich sah es in den Medien. Die Leute erklärten mir was war.


Q: Das war in 2005. Kamen Sie zum Verständnis das er das Land verließ und nach Bahrain ging.


A:Ja


Q: Wann sahen Sie das nächste Mal Mr. Jackson?



A: Sahen oder gesprochen?


Q: Sahen.


A:In Carolwood, Sir.


Q:In Carolwood, dort lebte er für die TII –Tour-Vorbereitung?

A: Richtig

Q: So das war 2009?


A: Richtig.

[rip.michael]

Jacksons vs AEG - Day 11 - May 14 2013- Summary

Katherine Jackson, Rebbie and Trent are at court.

Choreographer Travis Payne and Katherine Jackson spoke briefly in the courtroom before the jury came in. They seemed cordial.(AP)

Travis Payne Testimony

AEG direct

Payne is wearing a black jacket with a gold emblem on the shoulders with the words “MJ” and a pair of wings. (AP)

Payne said he was concerned about MJ missing rehearsals. He didn't know why he wasn't showing up, but MJ was also working on album and book (ABC7)

Payne said he did not think that Jackson had a problem abusing prescription medications. He acknowledged that Jackson missed rehearsals and he saw the singer shivering or appear cold in some of his final rehearsals.(AP)

He worked with Jackson beginning in the 1990s and testified that he never saw Jackson drink alcohol or take any medications. The singer also never discussed his medical treatments, Payne said.(AP)

Payne told the jury he advised MJ he was looking thin and MJ said he was getting down to his fighting weight. "I had no reason to doubt him" (ABC7) Michael Jackson said, "I'm getting down to my fighting weight," Payne testified.(LAtimes) Payne said he noticed that Jackson looked thin but was satisfied with the singer’s response.

“He said, ’I’m getting down to my fighting weight,' which I took to mean that he was preparing for the performances,” Payne testified. (LAtimes)

Payne said there was one day when MJ was cold. He thought the frustration had MJ on edge, but he took it that he was fighting a cold. (ABC7) When Jackson needed to be layered in blankets and required a heater to be comfortable, Payne said, he believed Jackson was merely fighting a cold. (LAtimes)

"There were times he was tired and had to be not convinced but supported," Payne recalls.(ABC7) "Sometimes he was tired and lethargic and had to be, not convinced, but supported throughout rehearsals," Payne said. (CNN)

Payne said that in April, May, June, MJ missed 5 rehearsals with the whole group. He said one time Ortega sent MJ home. (ABC7)

Bina shows an email from Ortega to Gongaware on Jun 14: "We're you aware that MJ's doctor didn't permit him to attend rehearsal yesterday? Without invading MJ's privacy, it might be good idea to talk to his doctor to make sure everything MJ requires is in place. Who is responsible for MJ getting proper nourishment/vitamins/therapy every day? Personally, I feel he should have a top Nutritionist and Physical Therapist working with him on a regular basis. The demand on this guy is mentally and physically extraordinary! The show requirements exhaust our 20 year olds. Please don't underestimate the need to stay on top of this" (ABC7)

Another part of the same email chain, from Gongaware: "Frank and I have discussed it already and have requested a face-to-face meeting w/ the doctor... We want to remind him that it's AEG not MJ who's paying his salary We want him to understand what is expected of him. He has been dodging Frank so far.” (ABC7)

Payne said his understanding was that AEG was paying Dr. Murray's salary not Michael. The doctor was there 2 oversee many things, Payne said. Payne explained he didn't have much of reason to question Dr. Murray since he thought that a doctor selected to work with MJ was top notch. (ABC7)

Payne said he met Dr. Murray at the Carolwood house. "I was going up the steps, Dr. Murray going downstairs, Michael introduced us." Payne was coming up from the basement to the middle floor. Studio was at the basement. Payne said he never went 2 the top floor of the house (ABC7) Stebbins Bina asked Payne whether he ever met Conrad Murray. The choreographer says he met Murray twice. Payne says the first time was at Jackson’s Carrolwood Drive home. The men passed on a stairway and Jackson introduced them briefly. Payne says the second time was at the Staples Center, after a rehearsal and Jackson was leaving for the day. Both meetings were brief. (AP)

On June 19, Payne said he believed he was looking at someone who had blankets and heater. No one else was cold. He had flu-like symptoms. (ABC7)

On June 23/24, as to how MJ performed, Payne though it was in process, not at show standards, but MJ was rehearsing. "He was having his process, I didn't expect him to be like he would in front of a crowd," Payne explained. (ABC7) "He was not at show standards ... I didn't expect him to be as he would be in front of a crowd." Travis Payne on #MJ in 6/09 . Payne: "It ebbed and flowed. Some days were good, some days were not as good." (LATimes) Payne said the performance would float, some days were good, some days were not good. The last two days were good. "I thought he was in his way to the goals he set himself," Payne told the jury. He didn't have any question that MJ would be able to perform (ABC7)

Jackson "was not at show standards, but he was rehearsing," last two nights. Jackson was "on his way to the goals he had set for himself" before his death, Payne says (CNN)

Travis Payne testified he had no doubts about Michael Jackson’s ability to perform in the series of comeback concerts after seeing the singer at rehearsal in the days before his death.

“I thought he was on his way to the goals he had set for himself,” Travis Payne said, adding that he and others were impressed while watching Jackson rehearse at Staples Center on June 23 and 24, 2009.

“He was not at show standards but he was rehearsing,” Payne said. “He was processing — he was having his process. I didn’t expect him to be as he would be in front of a crowd.”(LAtimes)

Payne, though, said Jackson's rehearsals the last two nights were "impressive" when he "was able to do chunks of the show." "He was not at show standards, but he was rehearsing, he was processing," he said. "I didn't expect him to be as if he was in front of a crowd. The last two days were pretty good." (CNN)

Payne described the day MJ died: He was headed to rehearsal at MJ's home, got a call from his mother who said she saw reports on the news. Payne heard news on the radio, called Staples Center spoke to Stacy Walker, she said they were rehearsing. He was told to go to Staples. "We were optimistic of his arrival," Payne said explaining they were expecting MJ to rehearse at the Staples Center. Payne said Ortega got a series of calls. He remembers Kenny say 'tell me something that will make me know it's you and that this is true' " I remember him (Kenny Ortega) collapsing in his seat and crying," Payne testified. (ABC7)

Payne said he never saw MJ drink alcohol or take medication. "Sometimes, in rehearsal, Michael would appear just a little loopy," though. He recalled Michael being under the influence of something; said it happened mostly when MJ would come to rehearsals after seeing Dr. Klein. Payne also said he appeared groggy in the morning sometimes, which he attributed to lack of sleep.(ABC7)

"Mr. Jackson just explained to me that he had trouble sleeping, that he was tired, and that satisfied me," Payne testified. (CNN)

AEG attorney Jessica Stebbins Bina began day by asking Payne about how Jackson seemed at rehearsals in June. Payne told jury that at times Michael Jackson was lethargic and needed “support” to rehearse. The choreographer said at one point, he and others tried to bring in a top physical therapist who works with Olympic athletes to help MJ. Payne said Jackson didn’t want the physical therapist to work with him, thought it would be a violation of his personal space. (AP) Jackson didn't work w/physical therapist flown in for him. "He was just not comfortable with the invasion of personal space." (LATimes)

“At the last minute we realized that Michael was not going to go through with it,” Payne said. “He was just not comfortable with the invasion of personal space.”(Latimes)

MJ sometimes appeared "loopy" or "groggy" at rehearsals, Payne said.(LATimes) Payne testified MJ appeared "a little loopy" after visits with his longtime dermatologist in the weeks before his death. Travis Payne said he witnessed Jackson's unusual behavior after the singer visited Dr. Arnold Klein, who Payne believed was performing cosmetic treatments on the singer so that he would be comfortable performing onstage again. (AP) Payne said he understood MJ was undergoing "cosmetic procedures so that he could feel great and do a great job." (LATimes)

"Sometimes in rehearsal Michael would appear a little loopy, under the influence of something, but mostly when he would come to the rehearsals from the dermatologist," Payne testified. That happened two to four times in the weeks before his death, he said. "Michael was undergoing personal cosmetic procedures, so he could feel great and do a good job," Payne said. (CNN)

Payne testified that he saw Jackson appear "loopy" two to four times over the course of his sessions with the singer. He says the incidents always followed visits with Dr. Arnold Klein. Payne told that he didn't think Jackson had a problem with prescription drugs but was having cosmetic procedures done to help him feel comfortable returning to the stage for his planned "This Is It" concerts.(AP) Payne said that his understanding was that Michael was undergoing cosmetic procedures so he could feel great and do a good job.(ABC7)

"Sometimes in rehearsal, Michael would appear just a little loopy," Payne said, adding that the singer appeared to be "assisted or under the influence of something." (AP) Payne didn't deem MJ being loopy as a problem with drug addiction. He said that from what he observed he was not concerned at all.(ABC7)

Payne, the choreographer, said he witnessed Jackson's unusual behavior several times in the weeks before his death. The singer also appeared groggy during some morning sessions, Payne said, and Jackson occasionally complained he was having trouble sleeping.(AP)

Payne said Mr. Jackson explained to him he had trouble sleeping. He's not sure how much weight MJ had lost.(ABC7)

Payne mentioned one day in particular at a meeting with Andre Crouch and singers, MJ seemed a little out of it.(ABC7)

Bina played clip of "This Is It" from Jun 4 showing the green screen and making of "Drill" and Michael talking about the cool moves, dancing. Payne said the idea was to show the rehearsals and how things came together. The footage himself wasn't altered, but there was editing. Payne said they picked the best of the rehearsal to include in the documentary. He wanted to reshoot some scenes but was not allowed. (ABC7) Payne, who was an associate producer on the “This Is It” documentary, said the footage of Jackson had not been retouched or altered. (LATimes)


Jackson cross

Attorney Brian Panish cross examined Payne. He asked if MJ ever performed the entire show from beginning to end. Payne said no.(ABC7)

Was he ready to perform for an audience, Panish asked.
"I thought he was on his way to the goals he had set for himself," Payne answered. "All I saw was improvement and getting closer to the goals."(CNN)

Payne purchased copy of his deposition and watched it prior to coming to testify. He talked to Stacy Walker yes but not about her testimony (ABC7)

Payne's impression was that MJ loved being a father. He said he saw the beauty of their relationships, loyalty one another. "When we rehearsed, we had meals togethers," Payne recalled, talking about MJ and all three children. Payne thought the relationship between MJ and Prince was awesome, Michael was a proud father, great to see how they interacted. Prince wanted to be a director, Michael would point out things to him during rehearsal should that be his career, Payne remembered. As to Paris Jackson, Payne said be saw a very protective young lady, smart, astute, with knowledge of the production, very hands on. Payne said Paris seemed beyond her age, she was the female of the house, had lots of responsibilities, loved it, protective of the family. Paris was coming to find out MJ's global success, Payne said, adding that she would bless the food they ate. Payne said Paris was the most vocal of the children, always concerned about things in the house, asked what they wanted 2 eat, handled a lot. Blanket was the most quiet of the 3, Payne said, but was always very close by, in the rehearsal room. Michael guided and mentored him. Payne said he would be proud if MJ was his father and agreed the children suffered a tremendous loss. (ABC7) When rehearsing with Jackson at his Holmby Hills residence, Payne said the singer clearly delighted in being a father. Jackson encouraged his son Prince’s dreams of being a director, allowed son Blanket to attend his dance rehearsals, doted on his daddy’s girl, Paris, and shared meals with all three. (LATimes)

“I saw the beauty of their relationships. I saw their loyalty to their father, I saw his loyalty to them."-Travis Payne (LATimes)

Panish: Was Paris a Daddy's girl? Payne: Yes, I believe so (ABC7)

Payne was often inside Jackson's home rehearsing with him during his final weeks. He got an intimate view of what he called "the beauty" of Jackson's relationship with his three children.
Payne saw "their loyalty to their father" and their father "enlightened them and taught them," he testified. "I was very proud to see Michael as such a loving father."
His description of the close relationship Paris, 15, and Prince, 16, had with their father four years ago could foreshadow the significance of the children's testimony later in the trial.
Paris, who was 11 at the time, was "a very retentive young lady who was very, very smart, very astute," Payne testified.
"She had full knowledge of the day-to-day operations, from the time of lunch and what it was going to be, she was hands on -- far beyond her age," he said. "She had a lot of responsibility, which I think she welcomed.
Payne said she was "the female of the house," and also "a daddy's girl."
"She really loved her father," he said. "At that time, she was coming to find out his global successes and presence, so she would wear her Michael Jackson t-shirt, headband and bag," he said.
It was Paris who would bless the food when they were have lunch with their father at home, he said.
"She was always the most vocal of the three children and was very concerned about many of the details of the house, was the temperature correct, what do you want to eat," Payne testified. "She just handled a lot for her young age."
Jackson's relationship with son Prince, then 12, was "awesome," Payne said.
"It was great to see how they interacted," he said. "Prince wants to be a director, so Michael would share conversations with him about that process and point out things during our rehearsals,."
Blanket, who was 7 his father died, liked to watch his father rehearsing his dances with Payne in the basement studio of their home, Payne said.
"He was quiet, but always right there with his dad," he said. (CNN)

Payne always carries a video camera with him and shot videos of rehearsal. AEG took the footage that Payne shot and never returned to him. Email from Randy to Paul: "Make sure you take out the shots of MJ in that red jacket... He looks way too thin and skeletal." Payne said he was not aware of the email. He said MJ looked thin, but not skeletal. He doesn't know if Paul/Randy took any the footage out (ABC7) He told the jury he thought Jackson was thin, but told the jury he wasn't aware of an email that AEG executives sent seeking to remove footage of Jackson rehearsing from the "This Is It" film in which he was described as looking like "skeletal." The email was not displayed for the jury.(AP)

As to MJ's relationship with Katherine, Payne said there's no secret MJ loved his mother very much. It is kind of common knowledge (ABC7)

Karen Faye is a make up artist. She designed the make up, was always there when Michael was there, Payne testified. Payne said Faye and MJ had a long term working relationship. They spent a lot of personal time together. Faye was concerned and frustrated how Michael looked. She went to Payne kind of in an aggressive way. Payne told her to report to Ortega. (ABC7)

Payne said he wanted MJ to have a physical therapist, nutritionist, massage, have his family around. He said this was a different scenario. "This was the first time MJ was working with AEG," Payne testified, saying he had always been hired by MJJ production before. Payne said this was the first time MJ was not the sole producer of the show. Payne started working without a signed contract. This was the first time he was hired by a company other than MJJ. He was being paid by AEG. Panish showed Payne's written contract. It is between Payne and AEG, beginning April 1, 2009. The contract said only AEG could cancel it. (ABC7) Payne, who had worked with Jackson in the past, said he was usually hired by MJJ Productions and that the concerts represented the first time Jackson didn’t have full control. He testified that there was a delay in his contract with AEG because the salary was not in line with his standard charges, but that things worked out after he had a conversation with Jackson. Payne also said he believed AEG was paying Murray’s salary, not Jackson. (LATimes)

Payne was hired and paid by AEG. His contract was with AEG.
Panish: Who could fire you. AEG?
Payne: I'm sure (ABC7)

Payne said AEG didn't want to pay what he regarded as his standard operating cost. Jackson said to pay him what him and his agent requested (ABC7)

Panish asked if Payne remembers receiving a text message from Karen Faye asking him why he was lying to the media after MJ died. "I do not remember receiving text message from Karen Faye asking why I was lying to the media," Payne explained. (ABC7) Payne asked about text msg from Faye after MJ's death, accusing him of lying to media. Payne did not recall such a thing (LATimes) Things became heated when Panish inquired about a text message Jackson's hair and makeup artist Karen Faye sent to Payne that accused him of lying to the media. Payne said he didn't recall such a message. He said that earlier Faye had approached him in an "aggressive" way about her concern for Jackson's health but he told her to take her concerns to Ortega.(LAtimes)

Panish: Were you upset when MJ died?
Payne: Yes (ABC7)

Panish shows a picture of Payne at the red carpet premiere of "TII" documentary. He agreed he was happy about the premiere. (ABC7) During cross-examination, Payne was shown several photos of premieres for the documentary “This Is It.” In one, Ortega and AEG executive Randy Phillips flank Jackson’s manager, Frank DiLeo, who has a cigar hanging out of his mouth. All three are grinning. Brian Panish, the attorney for Jackson’s family, remarked that everyone looked pretty happy. (LAtimes)

Payne said he wasn't privy to details of what was expected of Dr. Murray. AEG was producer/promoter, but MJ was the star, had to be happy(ABC7)

Panish reminded Payne that he had testified in his deposition that AEG was trying to protect its “investment.”

“I don’t have a dog in this race so I’m not on either side,” an aggravated Payne countered. “I’m just saying I don’t want to be painted as somebody who’s trying to mask anything.” (LAtimes)Payne got frustrated with Plaintiffs attorney: "I don't have a dog in this fight," he said, adding that he felt Panish was being aggressive (ABC7) After several hours of testy exchanges with Panish, his voice quivered and he dabbed his eyes with a tissue.

"I don't have a dog in this race," Payne said at one point. "I'm just trying to have a conversation with you and tell the truth." (AP)
Panish asked Payne if defendants' attorney approached him during lunch to show him some documents. He said yes, saw parts of his deposition. (ABC7)

Under cross examination, Payne acknowledged that some of Jackson's behavior, including grogginess, lethargy, insomnia and occasional paranoia, were possible symptoms of prescription drug abuse. He also said that despite testifying earlier that he worked with Jackson one-on-one five days a week, he couldn't recall how many rehearsals the singer actually attended.(AP)

Plaintiff’s attorney Brian Panish after lunch break got Travis Payne to concede Jackson wasn't present for a May 19, 2009 rehearsal. Payne also conceded that Jackson was a no-show for a June 22, 2009 rehearsal. (AP) Panish confronted Payne saying that yesterday he said he was with MJ at a dance studio on May 19, that they were up on their feet, danced.

Panish: Sir, MJ was not with you May 19, 2009, was he?
Payne: No
Panish: He was at the doctor
Payne: If you're saying, I'm not disputing
Panish said that on May 19, MJ was having a cyst removed at Dr. Klein's office, so he could not have been rehearsing with Payne.
Panish then said on Jun 22 MJ wasn't there either, "wasn't he?"
Payne said he didn't know. Panish said MJ was at another doctor's office (ABC7)

Payne said he may have made a mistake about Jackson’s whereabouts, and he didn't know the pop singer’s personal schedule. Travis Payne had testified yesterday that he and Jackson ran through certain songs on May 19th. He said today he was testifying based on the schedule and notes he compiled and that his recollection might be wrong.(AP)

"We're human, sometimes we make mistakes," Payne explained, saying he's not disputing that MJ was or wasn't there on those dates. (ABC7)

Payne said there was always something for MJ to do. "He needed to come to rehearsal, it was part of the job." (ABC7)

Payne said MJ had hard time picking up some of the material. Email from Ortega to Gongaware: "He has been slow at grabbing hold of the work" (ABC7) Jackson was having trouble learning dances, choreographer Travis Payne says (CNN)

"Prior to June, I notice Mr. Jackson was thinner than I recognized him," Payne said, noting he never saw sudden weight change in MJ. (ABC7)

Second time Payne saw Dr. Murray was the night before MJ died at Staples Center. "I wanted Michael to go home and go to sleep" Payne recalls. Payne said he felt that Dr. Murray didn't look like a doctor to him and didn't feel he was an official doctor who should be working for MJ. Payne knew MJ had sleeping problems and that Dr. Murray was treating him for that. Ortega also knew; Payne thought Gongaware was aware too (ABC7) Payne also said he and Ortega knew that Jackson was having sleep problems. Attorney Brian Panish asks if AEG executives knew. There were several objections, and Payne was only allowed to answer “No” as to whether Paul Gongaware knew about Jackson’s sleep problems. (AP) (Note : There’s a conflicting info here)

Something about Murray felt off, Payne said. “He didn’t feel like an official doctor,” he said. (LATimes)

Panish asked Payne about choosing Jackson’s dancers for “This Is It.” Payne says they were whittled down from 5,000 applicants. (AP) Applicants submitted video clips and their submissions were used to cull down potential dancers from there. (AP) Payne said they received 5,000 applications for dancers, about 2,000 showed up 4 the audition. Payne says about 2,500 people showed up for a casting call. He taught them some dance moves, and the pool was further narrowed down. One note about the backup dancers _ Michael Jackson chose them from a group of finalists. (AP)

Panish then asked Payne whether he knew how many doctors AEG interviewed to work with Jackson on “This Is It.” “No,” Payne says. (AP) He didn't know how many doctors AEG screened (ABC7) Payne also says he isn't aware how much interviewing or investigation into Murray that AEG did. (AP) (Panish’s point appears to be that there was more scrutiny of Jackson’s backup dancers than Conrad Murray. AP)

During preparations for his anticipated “This Is It” performances in London, Michael Jackson at times seemed “under the influence of something” during rehearsals and once couldn’t take the stage because he appeared incoherent, Payne testified. Travis Payne said Jackson had trouble picking up some of the show’s choreography and requested a teleprompter to help him with lyrics — something the singer had never done before. (LATimes)

Payne said he was aware that Jackson had problems sleeping and chalked up the singer’s sometimes erratic behavior to sleep aids or sedatives from his dermatologist visits. (LATimes)

“You have to understand that one always says hindsight is 20/20,” he said. “In the moment I had no inkling of what, ultimately, what was revealed until Mr. Jackson’s passing.” (LATimes)

Payne saw MJ tired and fatigued. He agreed that those symptoms could be signs of drug addiction. Payne was aware that MJ was losing weight during rehearsals and he had not seeing him lose weight like that before. "He was not in great physical shape and was sore," Payne said. Payne felt that the reason MJ was groggy was because he was getting some sort of sleeping medication. "He just seemed assisted" (ABC7)

Payne says at one point, he told Kenny Ortega that Jackson appeared “assisted” _ meaning that he thought he was on drugs\meds. (AP)

Payne said some people were concerned about the goals not being met, including Randy Phillips and Paul Gongaware. (ABC7)
Payne said that he thought MJ was under some type of sedative after the came back from Dr. Klein's office; he would have cosmetic work done. Payne learned what Demerol was after MJ died. He also remembers a mention of Demerol in the song "Morphine". (ABC7)
"He was losing weight, he was sore, working up his stamina. Lack of sleep and proper nourishment were starting to show," Payne explained. (ABC7)

Panish asked if MJ knew the lyrics of his songs. "I think he did, he knew most of them, but he wanted to have a TelePrompTer for safety" Michael asked for the TelePrompTer, he didn't want to make any mistake, 2 refresh his memory. Also to use for sequence of songs, Payne said . Payne agreed that it was very unusual for MJ to have TelePrompTer with the lyrics of his own songs. He never used it before. (ABC7) He also asked that a teleprompter be placed near the stage to help him remember song lyrics, something Jackson had never used before during a concert, he said. (CNN) He said Jackson wanted to use a teleprompter during the shows as "extra security," but it was an aid the performer had not used in his two previous tours.(AP) Payne didn't specify which songs Jackson wanted teleprompter for, but said MJ had never used one on tour before. It was plaintiff's attorney Brian Panish who questioned whether Jackson could remember words to his songs. Travis Payne said the teleprompter was "extra security" for Jackson and would inform of him of changes in show, words for speeches.(AP)

Payne said a body double was requested for MJ. Misha Gabriel was MJ's body double, but shorter than him. Some of the scenes in the documentary are with the body double, Payne testified. Payne remembers at the Culver Studios in Smooth Criminal there was a stunt and Misha was asked to jump thru glass plate. (ABC7)

Payne said most it the time, MJ was present at rehearsals. "It wasn't s big deal," he expressed.(ABC7)

Panish showed an email from the band leader Michael Bearden: "MJ is not in shape enough yet to sing this stuff live and dance at the same time," Bearden wrote. "He can use the ballads to sing live and get his stamina back up, Once he's healthy enough and have more strength I Have full confidence he can sing the majority of the show live. His voice sounds amazing right now, he needs to build it back up. I still need all big dance numbers to be in the system so we can concentrate on choreography." (CNN)

Payne was aware that AEG was considering in mid June pulling the plug on the show. He said MJ looked exhausted and paranoid on Jun 19 (ABC7) Jackson's condition and missed rehearsals led to talk within the last 10 days of Jackson's life that AEG Live LLC, which was promoting "This Is It," might cancel the concert series.(AP) "It was 'We've got to get this together or the plug may be pulled,'" Payne says (CNN)

"It was 'We've got to get this together or the plug may be pulled,' " Payne testified. Jackson was having trouble learning some of his dances in the final weeks, he said. The jury saw an e-mail from show director Kenny Ortega saying Jackson had "been slow at grabbing hold of the work." (CNN)

Payne was working for AEG and said he relayed his concerns about Jackson's possible prescription drug use to tour director Kenny Ortega. Jackson was struggling to get into shape for the shows, and Payne said his voice coach suggested using a voice track for fast-paced songs until the singer's stamina improved. Travis Payne said he expressed concerns to the director of the "This Is It" shows that Jackson might be misusing prescription medications and was exhibiting troubling signs of insomnia, weight loss and paranoia in his final days. (AP)

Payne went to MJ's house on June 20. He was cold and had to light the fireplace and rub his hand and feet to warm himself up. (ABC7)

Panish showed a picture of MJ on June 24 rehearsing Thriller. Payne said MJ improved but was not at his best yet. (ABC7)
Payne knows of one incident, June 19 at the Forum, where MJ had to be wrapped around in a blanket and be in front of a heater. (ABC7)

Panish: Around June 20, was Ortega in the mindset that MJ was not ready for this?
Payne: Yes (ABC7)

Payne said MJ was not ready, it was not the MJ he knew. He died four days later. But he didn't see anything that alarmed him on June 23/24 (ABC7)

Panish: Did you see that MJ was getting pressured to get everything done in the last days?
Payne: Yes (ABC7)

Payne said he could sense something was wrong, but didn't know what it was. (ABC7) "You could sense that something was wrong, you just didn't know what it was?" plaintiff's attorney Brian Panish asked. Yes, Payne replied. (AP)

Payne said he had not seen MJ in the condition he saw him on June 19. Last two days were better. (ABC7)

Payne cried when he said he never doubted MJ and that part of his responsibility was to help getting him there, ready for the tour. (ABC7)

Payne said Jackson’s performances in the final days of his life were impressive, and it felt “like we were definitely on an upswing.”

“I never doubted Michael because he was the architect of this and he wanted to do it, so part of my responsibility was to help him get there,” Payne said, his voice racked with emotion. (LATimes)

Panish ended his direct examination of choreographer Travis Payne with three questions.
Panish: Did you see that Michael Jackson appeared to be pressured to get everything done at the Staples last rehearsals?
"Yes," Payne said
Panish: "The pressure about the shows started to manifest itself physically in Michael Jackson."
"Yes," Payne replied.
Panish: You could sense that something was wrong, you just didn't know what it was."
Payne responded "Yes." (AP)

AEG re-direct

Payne’s demeanor changed after Panish finished questioning him. He was holding back tears when AEG attorney started re-direct examination. For the next several moments, Payne blinked and dabbed both eyes with a tissue. It was first time he’d gotten emotional on stand. (AP)

Bina in re-direct asked: Do you think you could get him there?
Payne: Absolutely! (ABC7)

On re-direct examination, AEG attorney Jessica Stebbins Bina asked Payne again about how many rehearsals Jackson attended. Payne replied that it was a “significant” number, but he couldn’t recall dates, precisely how many that Jackson attended. (AP) Payne said MJ was present a significant amount of the days he was scheduled to work. (ABC7)

As to Gongaware email regarding what was expected of Dr. Murray, Payne said the inconsistencies with MJ missing rehearsals warrant a talk. Payne said he thought Dr. Murray was there to care for his patient, making sure right nutritionist was there, to get him ready for the show. Payne never discussed with MJ about his doctors or personal affairs. Payne and Faye were professionals with each other, but not friends. (ABC7)

"Production felt he wasn't coming to rehearsals enough, and that was frustrating to some of the staff," Payne testified. "I had a concern we needed to create a show Michael would enjoy doing it," Payne explained. (ABC7)

She also showed Payne photos from the “This Is It” premiere. Photos were of the choreographer with Jackson’s brothers. FStebbins Bina also showed another image of smiling Jermaine, Tito, Jackie and Marlon with Payne at “This Is It” premiere. First photo is of Payne shaking Jermaine Jackson’s hand at the “This Is It” movie premiere. Stebbins Bina also showed another image of smiling Jermaine, Tito, Jackie and Marlon with Payne at “This Is It” premiere. (AP)

Payne said Jermaine was at the premiere. Bina shows pic of Payne and Jermaine shaking hands; pic of Jermaine, Kenny, Tito, Jackie, Marlon. Payne cried saying he had been through so much and the rough part was behind them. He was pleased to show the fans what the show was to be. (ABC7)

Jackson re-cross

In re-cross, Panish notes that none of MJ's brothers are part of this lawsuit. (ABC7)

Plaintiff’s attorney Brian Panish then asked Payne whether Katherine Jackson and singer’s kids went to premiere. They didn't. Panish says Katherine Jackson, her grandchildren didn’t go to “This Is It” premiere because they weren’t over Jackson’s death. Payne said he didn’t think anyone was over Jackson’s death with the film premiered in late 2009. (AP)

Payne said he saw MJ cold once at his house, MJ asked him to feel his hands, another at Staples -- MJ was wrapped in a blanket, w/ heaters (ABC7).

Payne's understanding was that Dr. Murray was to provide what the artist needed, as far as nourishment, rest. As to Gongaware's email, Payne said he took to understand that Mr. Jackson needed to have proper nourishment, care, and masseuse. Payne believed the doctor needed to assure comfort of the star so they could have productive rehearsals. (ABC7)

“My understanding was that Dr. Murray was to provide whatever the artist needed as far as nourishment, the ability to rest well, so he could have productive rehearsals,” Payne said.(LATimes)

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No court on Wednesday May 15 as one of the jurors will be attending a funeral. Court resumes Thursday May 16 afternoon.


Zusammenfassung von Ivy MJJC #13

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Zusammenfassungen der vorangegangenen gerichtstage:
Day 1 - anträge u. eröffnungsstatements
Day 2 - anhörung und zeugen Senneff u. Martinez
Day 3 - forts. zeuge Martinez u. anhörung
Day 4 - forts. zeuge Martinez
Day 5 - zeugen Anderson und Rogers
Day 6 - zeuge Dr. Wohlgelernter
Day 7 - zeugin Sankey
Day 8 - zeugin Faye
Day 9 - forts. zeugin Faye
Day 10 - zeugen Walker, Rogers, Payne

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Originaldokumente der eröffnungsstatements (MJJC #1 ff.)

[Lena]

Gestern stand Hollander, ein Controller von AEG auf der Zeugenliste der Jacksons. Es ging um Murrays Gehalt. Heute steht ein Propofolexperte an.
Derzeit noch unklar wann die Aussage von Faye fortgestezt wird.


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We're wrapping coverage for today. Hope to see everybody again tomorrow! See ya!
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Dr. Brown is Propofol expert from Harvard. Since he's coming from out of town, they are accommodating his schedule. Hollander resumes after
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That ended session for today, Day 12 of trial. Plaintiffs will take witness out of order tomorrow. They will call Dr. Emery Brown first.
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On April 30, 2009, Panish showed a document with $300,000 budgeted for management medical.
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Panish showed the jury the budget from 5/16/09 for 27 shows:
Management Medical --300,000; 450,000; 750,000
Total: $1.5MM to pay Dr. Murray
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Hollander: I talked to Mr. Wooley about the inclusion of Dr. Murray in the budget. I talked to Mr. Trell as to the conditions he'd be paid
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Memo: MJ wishes to have permanent physician available on call thru pre-tour/operational period. There are 2 months at $150K newly budgeted
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Hollander said she did not know who negotiated the compensation for Dr. Murray. He was the only doctor budgeted for the tour.
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Panish: Do you know if AEG ever performed a background check on Dr. Murray?
Hollander: I'm not aware of anything in that regard
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Panish showed email from 5/18/09 from Hollander to Wooley: "Were in process of quickly putting together urgent re-forecast for Mr Anschutz"
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Panish: AEG advanced money to MJ, is that right?
Hollander: Yes, it was an advance, recoupable in some capacity
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Brian Panish shows Hollander a large binder with 80 documents she reviewed to refresh her recollection.
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Panish: For London there was more than 1 million dollars in the budget to pay Dr. Murray, right?
Hollander: I don't recall a figure of $1MM
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Hollander: There was $300,000 listed on the budget for Dr. Murray, yes. That budget was approved by Mr. Gongaware.
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Hollander said that if all the terms of the contract were met and remained consistent, Dr. Murray would be paid retroactively from May 1, 09
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Hollander said she used the term draft because the contract was not fully executed. Fully executed means all partied signed the contract.
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"Timm Wooley advised me that Dr. Murray was being engaged at the request of the artist," Hollander testified, saying contract with AEG Live
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Panish: you don't know whether Dr. Murray was performing services for MJ?
Hollander: I don't know, I can't say for sure, not me, personally
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She agreed she saw Dr. Murray's contract, but says it was un-executed, since it was not signed by all parties.
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Hollander: "My understating was that Dr. Murray was part of the budget, is listed on the budget for the tour at the request of the artist."
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Hollander: "My role was to execute payments pursuing to executed contracts."
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"We had situations where contracts were signed later," Hollander said. "Due to abrupt end of the tour the contracts were being negotiated."
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Hollander said the company had a policy manual saying payment would be predicated upon the execution of the contract.
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Other budgeted costs: traveling for people involved, housing for some people involved and insurance.
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Hollander said budget was the costs expected to incur in the tour with
developing the shows, taking show on the road, getting gear to London
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Hollander said she didn't prepare the budgets for TII tour. Wooley did. She reported the budget primarily to Paul Gongaware
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Hollander was responsible for the financial/accounting for "This Is It" tour. She estimated she worked on about 20 tours --several concerts.
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"I'm responsible for making sure the books are maintained for the tours," Hollander described. The book is an electronic accounting system.
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Hollander said she was responsible for overseeing 'the books' (accounting term) for anything related to the project "This Is It."
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Hollander reviewed dozens of emails, exhibits and her deposition. She doesn't know how many emails she saw, but estimated between 20-40.
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Hollander says she reports directly to the CFO. She is in charge of financial report and accounting for the events produced by AEG Live
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Wooley came back to work in the "This Is It" tour. Hollander is not aware of Wooley still working for AEG. Last year he did a project
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Hollander said that in 2009 Wooley was more than just a tour accountant. She stopped reporting to Wooley in 2002, when he left the company.
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First part of her testimony was explaining who hired her (Timm Wooley) and what a CEO/CFO does. She works for AEG Live, under AEG.
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Julie Hollander, AEG's VP of Controller and Event Operation, is currently on the stand. Jackson's attorneys called her as adverse witness.
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Afternoon session about to start with jurors back in the courtroom.
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[Lena]

Panish hat nun entschieden, dass er heute nun doch nicht den Propofol-Experten hören will. Daher stand kein anderer Zeuge zur Verfügung. Der Jury wurde daher eine Depositon von Panish mit dem Tourmanager Hom, den AEG als Experten-Zeugen gelistet hat per Video vorgespielt. Hom ist sowohl für Live Nation als auch für AEG tätig und hat Touren von Midler, Alicia Keys, Janet Jackson u.a. gemanaget. Wegen den Zeugen-Problemen gibt es eine 4-stünidge Pause. Es geht dann weiter mit dem AEG-Controller Hollander, der gestern bereits im Zeugenstand war.

Ich glaube mit dem Tempo und den Lücken zwichendrin wird der Prozess Monate dauern.

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That was the gist of this morning's testimony. AEG executive Julie Hollander will resume testifying at 2:30 p.m. PDT.
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He said on the previous Rolling Stones tour (not current one), there was a tour doctor. He also cited Blink-182 having a tour doctor.
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During the deposition, AEG attorney asked Hom about tours in which he knew doctors accompanied bands. Hom cited two.
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Hom noted that AEG and Live Nation are the two biggest concert promoters. He wants to keep working with both of them, he said.
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He was approached by two AEG executives about working with the Rolling Stones this year, but AEG picked another tour manager.
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Plaintiff’s attorney Kevin Boyle asked Hom several questions about whether he wanted to work with AEG Live in the future. Hom said yes.
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He also said he wouldn't hire a doctor if he knew the physician was feeding an artist's chemical dependency.
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Hom was asked whether he would hire a doctor to give an “opiate-dependent artist Demerol?” Hom said no.
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Correction to an earlier tweet: Hom’s comment about Murray’s fee being outrageous was related to doc’s initial request for $5 million.
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He said it’s a legitimate question to ask “How long is that musician going to be sick?” and similar questions for the sake of the tour.
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He said he’d never gotten involved in a doctor-patient relationship. He said he does ask doctors about prognosis for injured artists.
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Marty Hom said he’d never worked on a tour in which the artist or artists’ brought along a doctor.
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Boyle asked Hom whether he’d ever hired a doctor to go on tour. Hom said no. He hires local doctors if an artist is sick or needs treatment.
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Hom was paid $500 an hour to serve as an expert on the Jackson vs. AEG case. #notbadforarookie
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Hom said he’s worked with Janet Jackson, and had met Katherine Jackson on a few occasions.
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He was questioned by plaintiff’s attorney Kevin Boyle, who asked Hom given his ties to AEG how he could convince the jury he was objective.
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Hom, wearing a black shirt and black blazer, testified in a March 25, 2013 deposition.
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“This business is a very, very small business. I probably know most of the people in this business,” Hom said during his deposition.
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He’s also worked with AEG on a couple occasions, including the Alicia Keys tour. He was approached about working on the Rolling Stones tour.
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Marty Hom said he had never talked to Gongaware and Phillips about Michael Jackson.
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Hom said he and Phillips weren’t close -- they didn’t visit each others’ homes or otherwise socialize.
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This is Hom’s first case serving as an expert witness. He knows AEG executives Paul Gongaware and Randy Phillips, who he called a friend.
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Hom is a tour manager who’s worked with the Eagles, Bette Midler, Alicia Keys, Janet Jackson and other big-name acts.
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Jury just listened to videotaped deposition of Marty Hom, a tour manager retained as an AEG expert.
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Because of witness issues, the Jackson vs AEG trial is on a 4-hour break. Testimony resumes at 2:30 p.m. PDT.
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Heading back into court -- will update at a break. #JacksonTrial
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AEG executive Julie Hollander will be back this afternoon to resume testifying.
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One of them is Marty Hom, an AEG-retained expert whose deposition Panish played during opening statements.
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There’s no witness available now to testify this morning, so Panish plans to play video of an expert’s deposition this morning.
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There’s been a change-up in the witness order, and plaintiff’s attorney Brian Panish has decided not to call a propofol expert this morning.
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Jackson vs AEG is back in session, with Katherine, Rebbie and Trent Jackson attending the proceedings.

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Murray stand mit einem Gehalt von je 150 000 $ für die Monate Mai und Juni 2009 auf der Gehaltsliste von AEG, die von Gongaware genehmigt war.


Jackson trial: Dr. Murray's salary was on AEG's books

Jackson-Prozess: Dr. Murray's Gehalt war in AEG's Geschäftsbüchern

By Corina Knoll
May 16, 2013, 6:46 p.m.

An AEG finance executive Thursday verified a 2009 company budget that allotted $300,000 to be paid to Dr. Conrad Murray for two months of caring for Michael Jackson.

Julie Hollander, vice president/controller of event operations for AEG Live, testified in the wrongful death trial that Murray’s salary of $150,000 each for the months of May and June that year was included in a budget approved by executive Paul Gongaware.

Gongaware is one of the defendants in the civil suit filed against the entertainment company by Jackson’s mother and three children who allege that AEG hired and controlled Murray. Murray treated Jackson as he was preparing for "This Is It,” a series of comeback concerts to be held in London, and gave the singer a fatal dose of propofol.

The case, which could be worth millions, or even billions to Jackson’s family, could turn on whether the jury believes Murray took his marching orders from Murray or Jackson himself.

Hollander was responsible for overseeing the books and the general ledger of all transactions related to “This Is It,” but said it was AEG executive Timm Woolley who actually created and managed the budget and made sure people got paid.

Woolley advised her that Murray was “engaged at the request of the artist,” Hollander said, and added that the budgets were ultimately approved by Gongaware.

Hollander called the doctor’s contract with AEG a “draft” because, although it was signed by Murray, neither Jackson nor AEG had signed it.

“If Michael Jackson didn’t die and AEG signed, then AEG would owe the money, right?” Brian Panish, the Jackson family’s attorney, asked.

“If all parties signed it would have been a fully executed contract, yes, and I would have to — if the costs were approved — it would be no basis for me to say I’m not going to pay that,” Hollander said.

She said, however, that there were situations where contracts were signed after Jackson’s death because “due to the abrupt end of the tour, deals were renegotiated.”

Hollander verified a document created May 16, 2009, that listed dozens of changes to the “This Is It” budget. Murray was listed as item 29.

“MJ wishes to have a permanent physician available on call throughout the pre-tour period on operational period,” the document said. “There are 2 months at $150,000 newly budgeted.”

Hollander said she spoke with Woolley about the inclusion of Murray on the budget and to AEG’s in-house attorney Shawn Trell about conditions under which the doctor would be paid.

On May 18, 2009, Hollander wrote an email to several executives asking for information that would help give AEG owner Philip Anschutz an idea of the upcoming tour profits.

“We are in the process of quickly pulling together an urgent re-forecast for Mr. Anschutz and need the latest and greatest on MJ,” her email read. “I recall that you were working on an update. Is it ready for consumption? I need something by tomorrow at the latest.… Once the numbers are in, I need direction from you with respect to the split between UK and US.”

Panish asked Hollander, “They weren’t asking you how the rehearsals were going, were they?”

“No.”

“They wanted to know how much money would be made for the U.S. and how much money would be made for the U.K., correct?”

“Yes.”

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-jackson-murray-20130516,0,1860412.story